/k/ - Weapons

>brand known for dogshit guns and horrible ammo is going under

Finally. Hopefully Marlin gets bought by somebody who knows what they are doing. This shit brand deserves nothing but death.

>Remington’s sales have declined in part because of receding fears that guns will become more heavily regulated by the U.S. government

So the opposite of nearly every other gun company during the last decade? That had their guns panic bought by people, to the point that prices became ridiculous.

It couldn't be that Remington had absolute shit QC, or that Cerberus/Freedom group were extremely anti-2a.

>>549984

Marlin's dead, as is Para. No matter who might get the brand, you can't remake the old machines and rehire all the old people, let alone reassemble the same institutional knowledge.

>>549981

Whodathunkit

>>549981

What? Sales during Obama's reign was ridiculous how could these guys go bankrupt?

Typical tricks, Shlomo

Typical tricks, Shlomo

well fuck me for not enabling js

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/02/robert-farago/remington-preparing-bankruptcy/

>Some potential financing sources, including credit funds and banks, have balked at coming to Remington’s aid because of the reputation risk associated with such a move, according to the sources.

>A problem that first reared its ugly head when Cerberus private equity tried to off-load [what was called at the time] The Freedom Group, after the Newtown spree killer used a Bushmaster (a brand owned by TFG) AR-15 to commit his heinous crime. An event that inspired the California teachers’ union to demand that Cerberus divest of TFG.

So we all know Remington is run like dogshit, but the political angle of choking off capital flow to gun manufacturers is worth discussing.

Do Jews buy up companies such as Remington and Sig to run them into the ground to shut them down while making money?

>>550044

>Do Jews buy up companies such as Remington and Sig to run them into the ground to shut them down while making money?

Pretty much yes, 50/50 whether they're doing it out of ideological reasons or just because they can only conceive of short-term financial gain, or both.

>>550044

>>550046

This is why publicly-traded stock is mistake. Keep shit privatized.

>>550051

They will find a way (((Sexual harrassment))) to get you incarcerated and replace you with someone who will publicly trade it.

>>550084

>become disorderly so that I may establish order goyim

Get fucking lost, kike.

>Friend at uni tells me he bought a shotgun for HD

>Shows me some shitty Remington 870 on the Dick's Sporting goods website

>He fucking ordered a new Remington from dicks

>Have to restrain myself from berating him

>>550095

>trying to derail yet another thread because you get angry at the politics of others

You're the one who needs to get lost.

Good riddance to trash.

What's is a fucking shame that they only company that produces a pump action 7mm-08 is remington

>>550099

>>Have to restrain myself from berating him

Why anon? As long as you can keep yourself from beating him senseless like a nigger, you shouldn't hold back your criticism. Stupid decisions should earn shame and derision.

>>549987

>saving thumbnails

>>550023

>muh scary javascript

>>550100

>belonging in teh oven

>>549981

>making your staple guns shit

>making unreliable handguns

>finally fixed the 700 from firing when you turned on the safety 6 decades too late

>pricing your handguns at nearly 1k while some chinkshit making 1911s in some 3rd world monkey factory puts out better guns at 1/3 the price

there is no reason to buy a remington handgun. there is no reason to buy a remington shotgun. there is no reason to buy a remington rifle. that's their entire catalogue. the handguns, what the fuck. did anyone really ask for another polymer 9mm double stack striker fired? don't they know their market is fudds?

>>549987

Remington is a pretty good allegory for the US in general

In the Grim darkness of the far future, there is only H&K.

>>550031

Yes, but what are you going to do about it?

>Convince companies to be financially conservative and do without outside capital.

>Create financing sources divorced of ((controlling interests)).

>Proliferate machine tools and metalworking skills creating a cottage industry of firearms manufacture.

>>549988

>So the opposite of nearly every other gun company during the last decade? That had their guns panic bought by people, to the point that prices became ridiculous.

The article's saying that people aren't panic buying any more because, under Trump, it's looking less likely that the government's going to take the guns away

>>550106

I thought you cuckolds couldn't own pump actions or something?

It takes a special kind of retard to bankrupt a gun company in America.

>>550117

necrons are really just krauts

>>550112

>>549981

Can confirm that Remington is shit. I own a 700 Long Range 300 win mag and I get like 4 moa at 100 yards. Hideous "accuracy." I'll never buy Remington again.

>>550117

fuck that, I already build my own AR's, I'll build everything before that shit happens.

>>550171

>I'll never buy Remington again

It's not like you'll be able to

So I was thinking about this last night, I think the best thing for all involved would be if Remington can't get financial backing and instead goes into full default. If that happens I can see Remington Outdoors being broken up completely. Marlin and Para are lost of course, though perhaps there're enough of the machines and tooling left to salvage something under a different name. On the other hand companies like DPMS. Barnes, and H&R might be able to re-emerge as independent entities. The question is would Remington be able to reform under that name, and with baggage removed allowing it to return to it's roots and focus on quality control and manufacturing the products it's traditionally good at (Quality 870's, working 700's, the 55x series of rimfire rifles, even Core-Lokt ammo), or would everything be lost in the shuffle?

On the one hand I dislike the possibility of a historical brand and legacy being lost to the wind, but on the other hand we see with Colt what happens when a company just keeps getting bailed out and never has to face their own central issues.

I get the political metagame behind ruining the internal profitability one of America's largest gun manufacturers so that they become vulnerable to the anti-gun political climate in the investment capital realm. I just can't stand to see it happen as it means the promise of massive financial success is no longer enough to outweigh the desire to maintain one's compliance with leftist ideology.

Remington was the most storied Fudd brand of them all with numerous designs (870, 700) that have inherent, sustainable competitive advantages in the market. All one had to do with early-00's Remington was bring management into the 21st century (or even the latter half of the 20th tbh) and keep cranking out the same wuality products they had been making before. There was, and still is, literally nothing. The problem is literally one of moronic lack of investment and malinvestment that ruined the reputation of products that were once considered necessities for both Fudds and educated outdoorsman. Unfortunately, that kind of promising investment isn't enough to overcome the ideological rot of even our best businessmen and now Remington is fucked.

>>550152

Anon, owning just a shotgun for "hunting", especially an archaic, less "assault-type" one is an entirely different venue of cuckoldry. I wouldn't be surprised if there are any shotguns-only type clay hunters over there like there are here.

>>549981

Hold up you niggers, its Freedom Group that is going bankrupt, i.e the cancer that killed absorbed Remington, Marlin etc. Freedom Group renamed itself Remington outdoor company awhile back.

>>550433

Stay away from my family you spicnip

>>550531

>Cerberus Capital Management LP, the private equity firm that controls Remington, will lose ownership of the company as a result of the bankruptcy. The company’s creditors, which include Franklin Templeton Investments and JPMorgan Asset Management, will exchange their debt holdings for equity in the company.

Good news, the cancer is gone. Bad news, you now have aids.

Should Remington produce 700s that utilize savage barrels once they fix their QC? You need a gun smith to change rem 700 barrels where savage barrels are easy to install or replace yourself.

You're next Colt.

Good, less garbage.

>>550588

Sorry Hitler, but that prediction is the one thing you did wrong. not counting having an inflated sense of your own military prowess. Colt will manage to limp along from government contracts even if its civilian sales stop completely.

>>550531

>Franklin Templeton Investments and JPMorgan Asset Management, will exchange their debt holdings for equity in the company

>when the jews take you out of the oven