/k/ - Weapons

another Strelok browses KC too, I see

>>547591

So how did they get him out?

>>547595

Muscle and ropes, basically

>>547595

They didn't, his body is still there. Sealed the entrance with cement.

>>547604

Couldn't the debris suffocate him?

>>547606

Then use some kind of system to catch the debris and extract it upwards. Theres no other way you're getting him out.

Second to a mudslide, that's one of the worst ways to go.

>>547607

According to the news article, they got him out of the hole but the equipment came loose:

>It was around 4:30 p.m. Wednesday when rescuers got him loose. They were able to give him an IV, food and water. He also received a needed morale boost after he was able to talk to his wife over a police radio.

>For a few hours there were sighs of tentative relief. They finally cracked open the boxes of pizza and cases of water, and broke out in smiles suggesting the worst was over.

>That only lasted for a few hours.

>Once Jones was free of the 18-by-10-inch crevice, rescuers said an "equipment failure" caused the rope system that was hoisting the man out of the cave to drop him back into the same, narrow gap.

>Thursday morning, rescuers were able to determine that the equipment failure occurred because one of the anchors that had been drilled into the rock had come undone.

>"It must have been the integrity of the rock because the anchors are usually quite reliable," Cannon said. "It wasn't how they put things together."

>By late Wednesday night, after 24 hours of rescue attempts, those trying to save Jones were essentially back to square one.

>>547609

Damn, that's sad.

But if the rock is so fragile that it came loose, it shouldn't have been hard to just make the hole a little bigger with some drills.

>>547608

what would be so particularly horrifying about dying in a mudslide? Suffocation seems like it would take you pretty quick.

This on the other hand is awful, your basically being hung upside down until the toxin that pools in your blood kills you from inside, all the while you can't even get a full breath of air in and your in almost complete darkness.

At least he'll make an interesting anthropological find for some civilization thousands of years from now.

>>547612

>Suffocation

It's when you're trapped and not instantly suffocated that's horrifying.

The difference is that when you get stuck in a cave, you're come to the earth. When you get trapped in a mudslide, the earth is coming to you.

>>547594

/k/ is basically /int/ at this point with all the flag based shitposting.

I wish flags were disabled, even though I will miss hungaryanon.

Jesus christ, id rather saw my own leg off. What a miserable way to die.

Get that man a Darwin award

>>547606

>>547607

It's called an archemedes screw. They use it for wastewater and mining.

>>547602

I am sure Bikini Bottom is mourning to this day.

>>547615

This. Couldn't they feed him meth or something and then pulled him out without caring about collateral damage? I'd rather lose both legs than die like this.

>>547614

>I wish flags were disabled, even though I will miss hungaryanon.

It wouldn't exactly be hard to spot him, just look for the crazy anon suggesting we weaponise giraffes or something.

>>547656

Sometimes I get the feeling that Hungaryanon is just Spergook in a different dress.

>>547656

Or suggesting replacing virtually every MG with AGL

>>547599

Oh, sorry. All of my information came from the same KC thread. I guess Bernd isn't a good spelunking authority.

What a rotten way to die.

>>547614

This can be voluntarily done by hiding flags. It's a prisoner's dilemna, because the flagfags shitpost doubly when somebody noflags.

>>547661

That doesn't seem like such a bad idea. Would you rather put a grenade on the enemy or a bullet?

>>547684

I like shooting grenades, but I don't particularly like carrying them in similar quantities as boolits.

Belts are really nice too, especially when it weighs less than a small artillery piece.

Also:

>muh colllateral babbies

>>547687

Actually I've never shot a fucking grenade because my God-given rights are infringed, so insert "the idea of"

>>547687

Well, a few dozen 40mm frag rounds per minute is likely to suppress a lot better than a few hundred rounds of 5.56 meme rounds in the same time. They'll probably have a much more significant effect on the target unit above and beyond suppression. An AGL is basically a 'fuck you and everyone even vaguely near you' machine after all. Fortunately, even without checking my flag, you can tell I'm not Magyarbro - as I'm not suggesting mounting them on the backs of specially trained llama and having units of 2-300 llama cavalry advancing on the enemy firing on the trot.

>>547692

>Llamas

>Not Emus

It's like you want the enemy to win, anon.

drr drr drr

Drr Drr Drr

DRR DRR DRR

DRR DRR DRR

>>547687

When I speak about replacing MGs with AGLs I apeak about replacing both GPMGs and HMGs on tripods, and also light (60mm) mortars, so crew served weapons only. And I mean the Russian stuff, either the AGS-30 or the AGS-40. They can be used both for direct and indirect fire, and they also have smoke grenades. In theory you could develop HEAT or HEDP too. Yes, the grenades might be heavy, but only compared to GPMG cartridges, HMG boolits and mortar shells are in a different category.

>>547692

I'm positively sure that I never advocated for using trained animals, therefore I have no idea what you are referencing here.

>>547715

>I'm positively sure that I never advocated for using trained animals, therefore I have no idea what you are referencing here.

You've become something of a meme my friend. It doesn't have to make sense.

Ground transmits force near perfectly moron, he would be crushed.

>>547687

I think a mix is always best but the fact is that 60mm mortar, HMG and LMG are grossly overused in US arsenal, to the point where were having coverage gaps.

Need more rifle nade, AGL and GPMG.

And need to improve tech of all of the above, we are using ancient shit and our adversaries are kicking our ass in RD,

Hungary would fit in well on deviant art. I'd wager he has some autistic fan art up there.

>exploring tight caves

>sky diving

>parkour

Anyone who does these things should not be surprised when they die

This is why you take up hobbies which kill you quickly if you fuck up. There is no way in hell I ever go into a cave that doesn't have tour guides and a gift shop.

>>547591

>try to drill/explode him out

>it collapses

>you present a ziplock baggy containing John Jones to his family

>>547706

THIS IS MY SPOOKING

IT WAS MADE FOR ME

>>548064

>There's not even treasure down there.

or is there?

>>548064

wager there's some fetish aspect to it

people have died trying to act out their encasement fetish in sinkholes

but this is sad

>>548087

i can understand that. its a tight, wet hole after all

>>548064

>tiny, virgin, hole

tbh who wouldn't

>>547706

>first time looking at pussy IRL

>THIS IS MY HOLE, IT WAS MADE FOR ME

What would compel someone to climb headfirst downward into a hole smaller than their body? If you want to get your name on a piece of paper for mapping a tunnel drop a $50 camera down on a rope instead of suffocating to death like a fucking literal retard

>>548036

>you dont try to drill/explode him out

>it doesnt collapse

>you dont present a ziplock baggy containing John Jones to his family because his body's still is nutty putty cave

?

This would have to be one of the worst ways to die.

>>548229

I can't help but think of this…

They're probably going to make a movie out of this.

>>548966

They already did. It's called The Last Descent.

>>548088

Checked

And the hole he was searching for was called the birth canal. Not shitposting, but he really was looking for it.

>>547604

Not really, both rely on displacing material into a gap and in this case there is a guy in that gap.

Best bet for saving his life would be having a good medical team and chopper on hand while you pull him out with brute force. He's going to be all kinds of fucked but it's his best bet.

>>557272

best bet is to poor maply syrup down the hole until he dies a sweet sticky death cause only a retard would go down there to begin with

>>547604

did he really go head first into a tiny as fuck hole?

proper term is caving, not spelunking, by the way guys

it's a funny community where it's primarily volunteer funded and supported. SPAR (small party assisted rescue) contains tactics to help get someone out of a cave like this dude.

explosives and drilling is a last resort today (look up floyd collins to see how, in the past, both were used without discretion) as a manner of preserving the cave, a major ideological tenant of the community.

>>548064

Cause its cool

T.guy who goes in storm drains barefoot

>>547651

>>547615

Who's to say he would have to lose the legs? Just cut them off and reattach them once you got him out of the hole.

>>557327

I get the storm drain part, I do it myself, but why barefoot?

>>557390

He has a poz fetish involving rusty needles.