/k/ - Weapons

/k/ is more about spiritual journeys of Streloks going to purchase firearms, who own firearms and in the future will give firearms to their heirs. The /k/ube may or may not be essential to this, but to all true Streloks out there (GTFO if you browse cuckchan), you know who you are.

>>547187

Also if you don't plan on reproducing and being a (((MGTOW))) fag go kill yourself.

>>547192

Go be a bitter virgin somewhere else kid.

>>547175

If you aren't praising the /k/ube, praying for the removal of all kebab and hunting spoops to appease the /k/ube you've done something wrong with your life. Hey what do I know, I mean sure I got physically removed from where the /k/ube is stored.

>>547198

I want to be able to have a few children of my own to help me cleanse the world and to inherite my firearms when I die.

>>547199

>Hey what do I know

Nothing because you're a fucking leaf.

>>547200

See this is the problem with starting a religion. Your fundamental tenets are going to be used and abused by your followers. If the proposed foundational scripture says:

> Streloks shall go on spiritual journeys to purchase firearms.

> Streloks shall own firearms, and in the future shall give firearms to their heirs.

You gotta anticipate what heresies or conflicts might arise. For example, does the scripture as given:

> Support the manufacture of firearms by Streloks in a fashion where nothing is "purchased"? What about trophies seized in battle? Those are technically stolen, not bought.

> What about men with no heirs? May they be Streloks? What if a Strelok becomes widowed without issue or is divorced with his children taken? May he remain a Strelok?

Or how about heresies?

> We Bloombergians support the scripture! We encourage all Streloks to take the Haj to the Freedom Group armory. There after appropriate fasting, prayer, and tithing they shall see their own personal gun placed on permanent display in the Museum of the Gun where they, or any of their descendants may view it at any time. Any reading of the scripture demanding that a Stelok actually use a gun for any purpose, kube forbid in anger or to kill, is completely backwards and uninformed. Only backwoods zealots think that way.

(Serious gun control idea I once read BTW. Can't find the original article though.)

Gotta be tricksy when writing scripture man. Because I guarantee you that your sneaky successors will worm their way through the tiniest loophole or contradiction to warp the faith to their own purposes.

>>547205

You can prevent all Jewish usurp-ery by simply allowing the public execution of heretics and violent infidels. A Strelok should pass his genetic line as far as possible, ensuring our race has better chance of controlling the surrounding territory through a passive invasion. Essentially you should be concerned with cultivating a generation of Firewarriors.

>>547212

>Believing in guy who created the humanity knowing in advance they their fuck up will lead to original sin so the only way to redeem them is to send his son, who preached to love your enemies while he tortures his in hell forever, to be nailed to a bunch of sticks so he can forgive the sin that he cast upon humanity. By the way, his is son is actually him.

Instead of creating a new religion you could just create a cult (the old fashioned kind not the kool-aid drinking kind), you just focus on a specific person in or part of a religion and use the ideals they exhibit as rules for the cult. Like St. George or Qutham b. ʿAbbās.

>>547219

>who are you guys

>we're cultists!

Dude it is like you want us to be BATFE bait

>>547223

You don't say cult/cultists specifically, like how hookers on craigslist ask for "donations" so they don't sound like hookers.

>>547205

You're going to get heresies no matter what, it's only a question of how long it takes - you could argue that Fudds are already a heretical movement of /k/ommandos. Human beings have never created a rule system that someone couldn't break or misinterpret. If you want complete orthodoxy you'll already find about a dozen different positions on any point of doctrine you cared to propose. I believe the most long lived and resilient form of /k/ubism would involve a relatively short creed establishing belief and morality in clear, unambiguous, language rather than the poetic or allegorical texts you see in most religious documents.

Once we have the /k/ommandos creed up and running individual /k/ommandos can begin to write their own texts and submit them to the church for approval. As long as these texts do not contradict the core creed or disgust the assembled /k/ommandos Pedofags would turn up eventually, even if it wasn't a religion then individual believers may believe as they wish, so long as they hold to the core creed. This more flexible position would allow for unity within the church well past the point that a new start up faith would have splintered into a dozen different splinter-faiths, and also mirrors the flexibility, initiative and improvisation expected of most military officers. Keeping /k/ubism as a closely aligned collection of similar and overlapping faiths with no central leader would introduce some instability and lack of direction to the group, but it also prevents any retards becoming a /k/ommando pope and acting like a fuckwit or harming the faithful.

>>547227

So something like-

"We, as the followers of the /k/ube, must keep, maintain, train with, trade and buy and sell weapons and ammunition and accessories of all kinds including nuclear, and reject all laws and proposals of laws that restrict the keeping, maintaining, training, trading, buying and selling of weapons, accessories and ammunition as being utterly immoral and heretical, and preferably punished with execution if they cannot be converted by reason, for the name and form of the /k/ube is holy and just.

>>547237

It'd be better to distil it down to short, targeted, bullet points, that way there's even less room for arseholes to fuck up the intention of the text. If you think I'm being overly cautious there consider how far the US has managed to fuck up something as simple as 'shall not be infringed'. Also, 'must … trade, buy, and sell' could be read to mandate constant trading, purchasing, and sale of weapons by the faithful - in theological language any possible interpretation will be tried at some point if you look into some of the shit theologians pulled in Christian history you'll see what I'm on about.

I'd suggest something along the lines of

It is the will of the /k/ube that every /k/ubist must:

>Maintain, strengthen, and train with his body, the most basic of weapons.

>Acquire whatever firearms he wishes that are within his reach financially, and in line with the legislation of the nation and region he lives in.

>Advocate, both privately and publicly, for the legislation criminalising the possession, construction, carrying, and use of weapons & ammunition to be repealed.

>Educate himself and others in the history of weapons, military theory, and warfare, and the present state of both subjects.

>Advocate, both privately and publicly, against the groups that oppose the liberties and freedoms that are ours by right of existence.

>Meet force with force.

Even with such stripped down language there's still all kinds of potential pit traps and room for interpretation in that list. There's a reason that existing church councils often take years to work through the most basic point of doctrinal change.

/k/ summed up in one vid

>>547268

Every bullet is a prayer, every bullet must hit is mark. A miss is a wasted bullet, and a wasted bullet is a wasted prayer. Wasted prayers are sin, and the atonement is more prayers.

>>547242

What about steroids?

I think having a philosophy or theology to base it on would be best to avoid at least blatant reinterpretation.

Otherwise, if you don't want new theology, cult of Mars sounds good.

>>547289

I think saying weapons instead of firearms is better.

What will happen when there is no literal war to fight?

I think that saying that life is conflict, and that man should strive to perfection by struggling with internal and external conflicts. I like the idea that a Canadian formulated in the other thread, that all men have enemies, the farmer the pests and seasons, the fisherman the sea, etc. But also the internal enemies, sloth, complacency, vice, etc.

>>547289

>>547294

Yeah, in my opinion the /k/ religion is less about god and more like Bushido or 'way of the warrior'

We should strive to improve ourselves, be ready for anything, and hold certain truths like strength of will, a sense of community, and the knowledge to maintain in a disaster.

>>547313

Agreed. Individual fitness and health, skill at arms, knowledge of tactics and self reliance.

>>547317

Yeah, this thread should be about writing ching-chong level texts like Art of War for the modern era or whatever yipyap japs read when they stare at their great grandfather's rusty katana waiting to unleash that 1/16th mongolian blood.

>>547313

Cult to gods and gods themselves can be the exoteric part of the religion, with the philosophy the lessons given by the stories.

Gods and stories of gods make for good symbology.

>>547289

The reason I added the 'in line with legislation' line is because /k/ is at most one step away from being declared a terrorist group by most 1st world nations. You know that we're all already on a couple of lists for posting here don't you? Adding overtly religious elements to /k/ would have as declared a terrorist cult as soon as MI5, the FBI, and ASIS could type up the report.

>>547294

>I think saying weapons instead of firearms is better

That's a good point, thanks m8.

>>547318

>Art of War for the modern era

Didn't von Clausewits kind of beat us to that?

>>547319

>Cult to gods and gods themselves can be the exoteric part of the religion

Plenty of boards have autistic religions and they always end poorly, at least Bushido kinda fits the board bill and doesn't risk stupid ritual crap, as funny as it can be. Some super christian folks (not me) might even say its worshipping false idols and I'm pretty sure there's some crossover there when it comes to /k/

>>547320

>Didn't von Clausewits kind of beat us to that?

Never heard of him but it's /k/. We can do it better.

>>547324

I think that due to the nature of /k/ it should be more individual centered instead of around a centralized clergy. All heresy is thus impossible because the only criteria for participating is following the philosophy. Someone that follows the philosophy is a klergyman

God or gods can be either new or from old religions, /k/ube or Mars.

>>547339

If the only criteria is following the philosophy then why wouldn't just bushido work? It's literally the spiritual guidelines of a warrior but it isn't a 'religion' and there doesn't need to be a god. That could be incorporable, like buddhism, or connected, but only by those who wish to.

>>547324

Or we could personify the different parts of the philosophy as different entities. The drive for fighting, the temptation to let go, etc, can make good divinities.

>>547341

Explained here >>547342

Personifing the concepts as gods makes the religion, being devoted to the good gods is just following the teachings of the philosophy, as an example, self discipline and abstinence.

>>547342

Different entities of the human spirit, which should come from within not above. Willpower, wisdom, intelligence, fitness, etcetera.

>>547341

Also, not directly bushido but an adapted version of it to the west.

>>547346

Wouldn't be a religion without gods. Having something to keep to and make sacrifices (killing enemies in their name, perfecting all abilities, training, keeping chaste, etc) would be good.

>>547346

Yeah I'm in agreement, spirituality is good for humility but usually for when you've got no hope left. It should never come to that point for a warrior, you ARE the last hope.

Definitely starting with physical grit, procuring your rations and eating well, seeing it as premium fuel for a well-trained body not a time to pig out and enjoy yourself. That should be kept to a minimum.

Then willpower, you should be ready to handle an emergency situation and answer a call with whatever skills you have, and you should practice the basic skills of defense and war. First loyalty should be to your country and family, to protect people you care about and be like a fucking brick between them and danger.

Intelligence, not just understanding that something works but how and why. Knowing how to properly modify and repair your raifu so you're never caught unarmed, how to make basic traps and hunt, etcetera. Even shit like repairing cars and building could fit in there, people just need to have handy skills that don't involve operating an office cubicle.

I personally follow a philosophy of asceticism in real life but I won't force that here. Eggs and mushrooms once a day, tons of water, no heat and no comfy beds, but that's just because I'm weird like that. Not sure how hard into stoicism we can go because I tend to cut out EVERYTHING that I couldn't find in a disaster just for the kicks.

>>547346

Building shrines to gods and all of that, besides following the philosophy.

>>547347

Ooh, sounds like a rich culture to adopt. I'm gonna go check Library Genesis for some PDFs of bushido and see where it goes.

>>547351

>What about religions centered around ancestral worship?

I like this, I often pray to my late father or praise my grandfather for his service in the war and sort of think to myself that he's behind me with a hand on my shoulder whenever rough times come.

>>547351

Like roman religion?

I think gods as personificated virtues is a good idea, with ancestral worship as a personal thing, kind of like what the romans had.

I think partially basing the religion on roman's is a good idea.

The other day I had an idea for a religion called heroism, based around praising the different national heroes as gods. It would have the most external, heroes related by race, then nation, then country, etc.

>>547347

Read through a little of this myself and I think there's a lot useful in that book.

>Rectitude

Cunning, I think. As bushido isn't about wantonly throwing your life away like a 15 year old anime protag. All Rectitude signifies is cunning, or having the faith in the self to act when the moment is right and not let it pass by. You could even call it criticality, going for weak points at the precise moment necessary.

>Courage, Daring, Bearing

Obvious, not to back down from a situation when you're needed, to believe in your own ability and keep your head about you when times are tough. Awareness, level-headedness, and self-control over fear and doubt are key in this virtue.

>Benevolence

No sense in being a lonewolf or taking revenge too far, I personally always believed you should deal with a problem efficiently, torture or beating a corpse out of anger is a waste of resources, so maybe some sort of comraderie could take place in this virtue?

>Politeness

Classic don't be a dick? Don't look down on others because you protected them, be selfless and kind to those you do for.

>Veracity, truthfulness

Seeking the truth, I think would work more. Everyone has their secrets, but we should strive to find harsh answers and face them, and never lie to ourselves. I think that would be a better individualistic virtue.

>Honor

Honor is sort of a catch-all of bushido in your reputation for bushido, really not sure how to ascribe it to /k/. Maybe something like loyalty or pleasantness? Don't be a hardass all the time, be social and spread good information maybe?

Any other ideas here?

>>547324

>Never heard of Von Clausewitz

Hang your head in shame. Once you have finished hanging it get hold of a copy of On War and read it.

>>547361

>Any other ideas here?

John Cooper's Principles of Personal Defense might be worth taking as inspiration.

>>547364

I'm not sure but isn't

>witz

(((witz)))

>>547366

He was from before the time the tsar threw the kikes out of Russia proper.

>/k/ religion

No need for such threads. The Eternal Teutons already created a literal /k/ religion when Odin, the god of war, replaced Thor as the main god. Any normal Indo-Europeans at the time were mostly worshipping their gods of thunder, Thor analogues.

>>547408

This is precisely why I advocate for a 'bushido' rather than a religion. Religion is often already instilled, but a way of the warrior can be picked up by all faiths.

>>547417

>a way of the warrior can be picked up by all faiths

Unless it oposes the religion's teachings

…and welcome to the imaginarium.

>>547417

Why not a religion based on the way of the warrior, but the way can be adapted to other religions, Christianity as an example?

>>547382

He was a Prussian who served as an adviser to the Tzar for one year during the Napoleonic wars.

>>547408

Meh, I'm already a non-believer, so if your god is real and there is an afterlife I'm completely screwed with or without the silly internet meme religion.

>>547435

Hail Mars?

>>547437

>Hail Mars?

<As opposed to Ares being reviled by the Greek Pantheon Mars was a symbol of military power as the way to secure lasting peace.

<Is seen as the father of his people.

<Exists as refined and distilled virtus.

<Also an agricultural god who waged annual wars with nature and the weather to ensure a good harvest.

<Likely a later interpretation of a pre-existing Roman deity who held power over the wilderness and wild beasts - one of the few surviving hymns to mars calls on him as a feral animal.

<Most animals sacrificed to Roman gods were castrated farm animals, the records we have of Martian sacrifices mention that he was offered intact bulls.

<Most of his festivals are chariot races or feasts.

<Mars the Marching god, Mars the Securer of Treaties, Mars the Avenger, Mars the Father of Rome, Mars the Victorious, Mars Silvanus (god of all that is innawoods)

As has been pointed out in this thread a /k/ubist movement would be much better off as a philosophy rather than a church with deities and rituals. As war-gods go though, Mars is one of the better examples for /k/. Are you suggesting that we accept the existence of Mars as an act of faith? Or take the mythological character as a source of inspiration?

>>547447

A religion with a cult Mars, or an adapted version of him, as the central god exoterically, and stoic/ warrior's way esoterically

>>547175

Guys, this is both obvious and simple:

the /k/ religion is whatever flavor of one's local religion is most warlike:

for Amerifats that's Muscular Christianity

For Catholics and Orthobros its the knightly orders

For Japs its bushido

For fedoras its hardline NatSoc

Chinks have the militant sects of chinkshit

There's always a militant order associated with every nationality or religion OR THAT NATIONALITY/RELIGION WOULD HAVE DIED OUT LONG AGO

*that* is the central truth of /k/.

We persist because we fight.

>>547455

>hurr durr you cannot have fun

>>547455

I think it shouldn't be centralized, but something you do alone or with close friends

>>547455

We shouldn't have a "religion" per say, more like a code of honor like that japs did.

>>547486

Damn straight, and it's exactly what we're doing. Bushido is #1, it works with any spirituality- though I'll admit the idea of revering ancestors is good

>>547175

There's already a religion, you uninitiated scrub.

See >>547506

If you do not hail the dice of death, you are a fucking scrub who does not deserve funs.

>>547506

Nex should be in genitive

AVE ALEA NECIS

ave nex alea means hail cube death

>>547506

Nex should be in genitive

AVE ALEA NECIS

ave nex alea means hail dice death

>>547313

Heresy - the internal religion is a trap. Why do you think that Buddhism or any of those religions have never inspired men to truly rise from shame? There is no cause to in their religion.

The Gun shoots. Maybe you can swing your katana around with no actual effect, but the Gun performs its action with only the guidance of the individual.

>>547287 is correct. Shooting is not a solipsistic action, and /k/ubism must not be made solipsistic. The operation of the Gun must be a sacred duty to all streloks, and must not be taken lightly. We are for The Gun, not the other way around.

All other weapons must be subject to the Gun, and those who are denied the Gun must be considered to be incomplete, even if it is no fault of their own.

The body must be trained so far as to not impede the Gun, but to work with the Gun. To do otherwise is disrespectful and blasphemous.

>>547506

Halfchannic paganism… admirable, but mistaken.

You worship the dead guns, and ignore those that still live. That is an error. We must discard the idols of the dead guns, and focus only on The Gun.

>>547585

>using 4cancer memes

>not using a vpn

honorary ATF

>>547592

The maple meme flag knows no civil disputes syrup-slurper.

>>547596

This, leafposting is an international affair. Our rapefugees citizens know no borders, so our shitposters don't either.

THE GUN IS GOOD

THE PENIS IS EVIL

>>547610

>it took a month 13 hours 26 minutes and 20 seconds for someone to post this

Dead board.

>>547617

see

>>547192

>>547663

You restored my faith, brother.

>>547596

Nor does my VPN, 9gagger.

>>547668

>Paying for a vpn

>Using a free vpn

Either way you're a faggot.

>>547553

>>547558

>newfag telling us to change years of tradition

YOU HAVE TO GO BACK

>>547713

>>547713

This is how schisms and reformations start.

/pol/ here. How do I accommodate /k/ubism with Kek? Make it a polytheistic religion?

>>547447

Maybe base it's morals around the character of Mars. Martialism sounds good.

Maybe a bushido, so it can be aplied to other religions. Maybe do it so that it's based around an ancient religion.

Maybe just /k/ubism with a moral system.

>>547759

What do you actually believe?

>>547775

>What do you actually believe?

Not sure. I'm tired of being an atheist and find myself leaning towards traditional European paganism. Since Kek is official deity of /pol/ I might as well praise him over there and when I'm on /k/ to praise /k/ube

>>547746

With dumbass newfags wanting to do their own shitty idea rather than the ideas that have been handed down since long ago? Yeah pretty much.

>>547782

OK, so we have our /k/atholic already in this thread. Will anyone stand up and take the place of the the hereti/k/?

ok yea I am very proud of you all and you got it absolutely right and no one in this thread is cancer but me.

>>547786

Who's gunna write the ninety-five theses? SpicAnon with his inability to use a chan board?

>>547790

I think the honor should go to Spergkraut. With his vast autism deposits, persecution complex and love of throwing shit all over every thread he would be a perfect /k/ Martin Luther.

>>547803

You tell me

We already have a religion.

All praise the murder /k/ube

AVE NEX ALEA

>>547835

That's the same as saying that all christians are identical because they all believe that Jeshua ben Joseph was actually Jeshua ben Yahweh. It might seem obvious, but best of luck actually explaining that to the Christians themselves. Historically speaking people have been tortured to death for less.

>>547836

I refuse to believe this without a notarised confession signed in triplicate.

>>547835

AVE ALEA NECIS

>>547874

No one gives a shit.

>>547945

/k/atholicucks cannot into latin

Can we go back to serious discussion now?

>>548016

But the murder /k/ube is serious.

>>548016

>serious discussion

>>>/kc/

>>548016

You can find many examples of /k/'s illiteracy, but the fact of the matter is that it has always been ave nex alea just like there have always been faggots like you bitching about what is "proper". Besides, the only thing of note Spain ever did was teaching you beaners civilized religion and here you are proving that the Spanish Empire couldn't even do that.

>>548025

Well the Spanish Empire wasn't really an Empire :^)

>>548025

Remove moors

I'm really interested on this, but I have nothing to add.

>>547558

I always thought that was the point. When you wage war, as is mans way, you take the chance. You roll the dice, that may well end against you.

>>548502

The point of what? The first phrase or the corrected one?

So a bushido then?

What is the doctrine of /k/ubism?

Has there been any effort to make some core beliefs?

Bump

>>550930

Why the fuck are you bumping a thread on a slow board?

>>548817

Respect the gun, take care of the gun, use the gun, etc. Now go bitch about the Falklands.

Have fun getting waco’d, newfags.

>>550934

>malvinas

It guards a connection between the Pacific and Atlantic, and it's in possession of the Jewish capitol of the world.

Malvinas is used by politicians to divert the highlight from their current corruption or moneylaundering scheme.