/k/ - Weapons

Any and all such "loopholes" named by liberals is really a declaration they don't like the freedom to do X (if it does not infringe rights). It will never be acceptable to pass laws to assuage bleeding consciousness and lack of other answers.

>>526890

Some one should ask Samantha about the husband loophole, which is the loophole where you can act like a sanctimonious self righteous progressive while you husband keeps blacks out of your gated community.

she's about as funny as a broken nose.

>everytown

lol they lie all the time, seriously half their "statistics" are made up, people have checked and debunked them before.

look at their evil shooter guys

>leftist communist

>leftist muslim

>leftist druggie

yeah it's just men there's no other connection.

>boyfriend loophole

notice how feminists made marriage so bad that no man wants to marry them, now they're inventing the boyfriend loophole. and once men avoid all contact with women, there'll be the "virgin loophole". this is one of many reasons, besides being run by homojews, why mgtow is retarded.

also look at how the audience has no idea how to respond when she says "republicans signed gun laws" its like their programming has a script error.

anti male blood libel is all the rage nowadays.

not sure if we have reached peak feminism yet, but I am beyond tired of it

>>526929

>replace the word 'men' (and its various forms) 'black'

>replace the word 'men' (and its various forms) with the word 'black' …

>>526929

Substitution is always a logically valid move, which is why leftists hate logic.

>>526896

>all the alphabetti spaghetti agencies crawl up your ass one after another, instead of all at the same time

OMG we need to close the ass-train loophole. Only a terrorist wouldn't want seven dicks up their ass at once.

>violent people are more likely to commit violence

Stop the presses.

As for the argument I think violent crimes should exclude you from gun ownership but you must be found guilty, not have just been accused.

>>526922

>>526929

Brilliant.

>>526935

If you are too dangerous to handle a gun, what are you doing out of prison?

>I'm going to move to your country for freedoms and make fun of your country and your freedoms.

Why the fuck did she move to the U.S. then?

>>526931

>>526935

I'm curious as to whether we get the same effect with the (allegedly) less radical stuff, let's apply the same test and see how it works.

>“There is a special place in hell for whites who don't help other whites." Madeleine Albright

>“I’ve been Aryan for a long time now. It’d be stupid not to be on my own side.” Maya Angelou

>“Who run the world? White people!” Beyoncé

>“No country can ever truly flourish if it stifles the potential of its white people" Michelle Obama

>"If you want something said, ask a Jew; if you want something done, ask a white person.” "Margaret Thatcher

>“I’ve never met an Aryan who is not strong, but sometimes they don’t let it out. Then there’s a tragedy, and then all of a sudden that strength comes. My message is let the strength come out before the tragedy.” Diane von Furstenburg

>“The emerging white person … will be strong-minded, strong-hearted, strong-souled, and strong-bodied…strength and beauty must go together.” Louisa May Alcott

>"Rape is one of the most terrible crimes on earth and it happens every few minutes. The problem with groups who deal with rape is that they try to educate white people about how to defend themselves. What really needs to be done is teaching black people not to rape. Go to the source and start there." Kurt Cobain

>"Some people really feel uncomfortable around white people who don't hate themselves" Mindy Kaling.

OK, the trend seems to more or less hold.

>>526938

Guns are part and parcel of the universal right of property, and in order to live in a society and pay for your crimes you commit you arbitrate your rights away to live in prison. If you leave prison and don't have your rights reinstated, you are now a second class citizen with less rights than anyone else.

>>526959

Prison isn't always the best option, you can lose the right to drive without ever going to jail.

>>526960

You don't strictly lose your right to drive/shoot, you trade it away so that the person you aggrieved has some justice. You can't really lose what was always your inalienable right.

If you do trade your rights away, the punitive terms must have a time limit, as a government taking guns away from a person means it played a factor in any of that person's future harm (even if retalitory justice).

The other option for said society is to simply exile you for a long time if you refuse terms I refuse to acknowledge a government having a right to force you into justice, excepting direct self defense.

>>526945

The vast majority of gaijin who come here only do so to complain about the US and how it is so much better in their filthy little home country. Foreigners are like Californians only even worse.

>>526965

Tfw I would go to america and bitch how it's still not free enough

>>526959

>If you leave prison and don't have your rights reinstated, you are now a second class citizen with less rights than anyone else.

If you willingly choose to break the social contract by refusing to abide by its restrictions then you lose the claim to the benefits it grants you.

>>526906

>look at their evil shooter guys

>>leftist communist

there are rightist communists?

>>526987

>Social contract

Nobody signed shit.

Rights are not given- they're taken.

>>526945

Because she kept getting molested by peaceful religious brown men in her home country.

>>526989

Yeah they're called trotskys dick suckers neo cohens

>>526890

>>526900

She's a dumbass that doesn't know the damned law. I also don't know how "anyone" finds her funny. Doesn't her show have little viewership anyway?

You can't account for boyfriend domestic violence unless the girlfriend files an assault case.

An assault case can screw over someone owning guns.

Basically, the fucking law already exists and the husband law doesn't even need to exist.

On another note, she leaves out that the 90 are exclusively to Chicago and niggers are way more violent to family members.

>>526996

he's right

>>526997

No he's not, the signature is implicit. Besides you can break the contract at any point in time if you're willing to live with the consequences.

>>527000

I get what you're saying, but the trouble there is it's not an articulate contract in the first place. We can pretend the body of law is the social contract that keeps society together, but it's only the force that adds weight to it, and it has always been and probably will always be arbitrary. I think that English Common Law is the closest we've gotten to articulating the social contract.

Human beings existed before states, but it is with the state we flourished. Unfortunately, states get out of hand literally all of the time, and so become tyrannical. You're half right, he's half right.

>>527005

>it's only the force that adds weight to it

Um… what do you think enforces other contracts?

>>527018

Her 50 going on 15 look is ridiculous.

>>527023

Her look is to appeal to misanthropic lonely womanchildren who lack success with men (sometimes because they're undesirable, often because they won't put up the effort)

The part of her audience that aren't spinsters are married women who are frusterated with that the only man interested in them is a low status, practically minded nonromantic fellow, but they can't take out their frusterations on him because he's a decent, loving guy

>>527028

>Dude no rules

This is where you fall down. There are three objective rules derived from self ownership, even amongst ancappers.

>You have a right to life, nobody may violate it

>You have a right to liberty, nobody may violate it

>You have a right to property, nobody may violate it

In a state of anarchy, the quickest method of enforcing this is self defense.

We make governments so that not all squabbles turn out to be all out riots, and even then ancaps advocate for dispute resolution organizations (essentially ancap paid police) to mediate and stop conflict.

The very fucking second a government decides to invalidate these rights by initiating force that does not have anything to do with protecting the rights, they are a morally invalid government. The initiation of force is morally invalid as it amounts to slavery in it's logical end-game- claiming taxes means you claim a part of a persons life as yours without consent, conscription merely a more direct form of the same.

I should really make a /liberty/ crosspost if this is going to last much longer.

>>527066

That still all just sounds like a less efficient form of the same shit. Also the 'dude no rules' is based on my interaction with modern anarchists in RL, they don't seem to agree with your 'we'll have a state but we won't call it a state' form of anarchy.

>>527028

It's questionable if the Roman Empire was still Roman at that point. Also, Roman law deals with objects and their interaction, while Western thinking is based on forces affecting each other, therefore there is a conflict between the two. The best example is the problem of intellectual property: we understand what it is, and why it's important that somebody can't just make a living from printing books that he didn't write. But it's an utterly alien concept in a law that can only deal with somebody ripping apart a piece of paper that is owned by somebody else. And by now we have a complete legal mess, because of the effects of Roman law.

>>527066

A basic problem with this way of thinking that it's merely a system based on a model of reality - and so you have to actively teach people to think within this model, or the system you want to build will break down rather quickly. And to maintain it you have to turn this way of thinking into a culture. At that point mere interaction with other cultures is a risk, because their ideas might threaten yours.

>>527118

That would be because real deal leftist "lol property is theft" anarchists are fucking retarded.

I never claimed to be ancap, I am a minarchist.

>Less efficient

Actually the complete opposite, as it seeks to concentrate centralized force into what it's best at- police, military, law. Everything else is a dilution of these.

>>527121

>Think within this model

Sure, we call this education and critical thinking. It's the end of the road for people who realize that owning yourself has some real consequences that are inescapable.

>Ideas that threaten yours

Trust me when I say that when people get a taste for freedom, they deplore servitude at least the people we want hanging around anyway, liberals and scumsucking statists can go make their own paradise where they seek to live off each other

Once you realize that nature itself does not provide security or free shit, collectivism as a whole takes a fucking nosedive.

>>527123

but gun jesus said we're all 1 human race

>>527123

By the Enfield, the stoner, and Mosin-nagant its beautiful.

>>527123

It's because their argument stands up to racial arguments, but they can't validate racial arguments by responding to them.

Them: "Guns kill!"

You: "Hurhur you stupid liberal most gun violence is perpetrated by black gangs. ROFLMAO MAGA KEKEKEK"

How they could respond: "Yes. But negro gang violence is still massive public security liability, and a massive burden on the taxpayer. We need gun control for everyone, because that's the only way we will keep guns out of the hands of the negro and the hispanic. Well thought out, implemented, and enforced controls on the possession, and transfer, of firearms would present a net gain for our society. Making it more difficult for professional criminals to get firearms would decrease the level of violence in civil society, and make it easier and less dangerous for our law enforcement officials to respond to criminal elements."

How they actually respond: "Well, I don't know about any of that"

>>527314

It's a consequence of not being honest with yourself. I think most urban liberals understand deep down that Jim Bob's rifles and expensive handguns aren't much of a problem. I doubt many gangland shootings involve Glocks and AR-15's, let alone 1911's and M1A's. What they're really afraid of is Jamal's Hi-Point or Draco. But they can't ever admit that so they redirect their feelings towards safe, white targets.

Look at stop and frisk in NYC: it was literally nothing more than the enforcement aspect of the gun control laws. But stop and frisk was wrongbad because too many blacks and latinos were being stopped. Urban leftists can't even stomach the police search powers necessary to implement the gun prohibition regime they want because "rayciss". So they keep falling back on statistically irrelevant mass shootings as a justification for their pipe dream of a world with no guns. This lets them articulate their desires in terms of hating white conservatives while ignoring the messy racial realities of gun crime.

Thus continues America's retarded adventures with prohibition regimes. Because alcohol, narcotics, and decongestant prohibition all worked so well.

>>527314

>How they could respond:

<That's only because of the Evil White Racists disproportionately targeting minorities with law enforcement. If it wasn't for the White Man Keeping a Brother Down, they would be model citizens.

Please note: The above is sarcasm.

>>526890

This video doesn't really elicit any thoughts in my brain.

Not sure why dried up vaginas think just because their baby making days are behind them that they can find careers in comedy or politics.

It NEVER ends well, or even starts well for that matter.

>>527319

I'd argue that narcs and funs don't mix. Check out warlord era China If the democrats actually were neutral on gun rights they'd probably get more votes last election lol. The issue in the US is that there are only two political parties. Hell, if we got a party that didn't give a fuck about anything else but gun rights in the senate I'd be hyped as fuck. but that prob wont happen lol

Dems argue that guns don't kill people, but people do, so we should take away guns. My counter-argument is that we will be using knives instead, or bricks, or our hands. Are you saying we should ban butter knives and pants cause you can stab someone with the former and strangle someone with the latter? They try to stem the symptoms rather than curing the disease.

>You can't stop a retard from being a retard.

>>527319

>I doubt many gangland shootings involve Glocks and AR-15's

shows what you know

>it was literally nothing more than the enforcement aspect of the gun control laws. But stop and frisk was wrongbad because too many blacks and latinos were being stopped.

there's more going on.

read between the lines.

stop buying the controversy they're selling you.

CNN is bullshit. Fox even more so. it's fake news. get off facebook. read a book.

>Urban leftists can't even stomach the police search powers necessary to implement the gun prohibition regime they want because "rayciss"

You say they want draconian police then say they can't handle police.

Youre like a brainwashed gook who blames america every time the power goes out.

>Thus continues America's retarded adventures with prohibition regimes.

You can't seem to understand, people don't inherently want guns.

People always want alcohol. always want drugs. always will. human nature.

violence is human nature. guns aren't human nature - people are happy enough stabbing each other.

think of it this way:

probably 99/100 of bikers will never hit their head on the pavement.

forcing 99 people to wear helmets they dont want to is worth it to stop 1 person from turning into a vegetable

but really

99% of liberals don't care about 99% of law abiding background checking gun owners

they dont give a shit

they've got their own lives, they don't care about you.

i can't state this clearly enough: liberals. do. not. care.

you certainly like to pretend they do

you zero in on some crazy lady talking shit to get attention as if she's a leader among men instead of some nutjob

you zero in on some congresswoman doing her job by trying to bring America into the 20th century as if she's persecuting you

you zero in on some shlub who decided to shoot a congressman instead of people at a grocery store as if it's a declaration of war

but the fact is

liberals don't care.

Really, it's shocking. I'm not an American, it shocks me how much Northern liberals DO NOT care about what happens in their country. I always knew people in Louisiana and Alabama were trash, but the apathy and self involvement of people up north is just shocking.

Like really, they let you do whatever the fuck you want.

Lynch niggers, Aktion T4, bomb the ATF, reinstitute slavery, rape children, they don't give a shit.

The highest crime a person can commit is treason.

That's what it takes for the "socialists" and "liberals" in the federal government to step in. Literally treason.

Anything else, rape, pillage, kill, all fine, but they draw the line at "attempting to destroy the United States".

I'm really in awe of how LITTLE Americans care about what happens in their country.

The liberals aren't out to get you.

They don't give a shit. At all.

I think because you live in a rural area you have trouble understanding the utter extent of how little anyone cares about what you think and what you do.

And you don't want to understand

because then youd realize that no one cares

and you can't handle the reality of how little you matter

>>527349

How did /leftypol/ get here?

>>527370

I dunno, they're probably buttblasted their guncontrol board got shit up ages ago.

>>527377

No. They want funs so they can overthrow the government and then ban funs.

>>527378

>use guns to take over the government

>Take away guns from the people

>use guns to populate mass graves

Foolproof plan.

>>527383

I mean it worked in China, (maybe) russia (not to well read on it).

It didnt work in spain by any chance lol

>>527377

>they're probably buttblasted their guncontrol board got shit up ages ago.

>we just wanted to take away your rights, starting with your guns why did you have to go ruin our gun control board?

what a mystery.

>>527000

>the signature is implicit

Oh good, says right here on this social contract that you have implicitly signed the rights to your quivering asshole over to my dick. Welcome to society, thanks for playing!