/k/ - Weapons

hk regularly pays off army brass to pretend they're going to adopt an HK weapon but with the full understanding on all sides that it will never happen. it's basically a marketing campaign to convince gear queers that HK is for operators.

I thought the us was copying some russian equipment (types? Issuance?) and have it act like an rpk for compatibility with other rifleman's ammo but with casket mags but still keep a fullpower cartridge spitting beltfed

>>526827

Are you implying the marines are stupid?

>>526820

from what i understand its kinda like rpk

>>526850

whole american military is stupid. everything they do is incredibly wastefull and inefficent

Hot takes from Soviet lessons: Intermediate cartridge LMG is retarded and need be replaced with belted full sized rifle cartridge machine gun like a PKM. Every squad needs a full sized rifle cartrige sniper, for counter-sniper and long range suppression. The DMR role in a squad should be separate from sniper role, and filed by a rifle capable of fully automatic fire… this is what the modern RPK-16 is (what OP rifle is too). It's a lot of variety for a small unit, this is why their squads are 11 dudes.

>Squad leader (AK-12)

>Squad assistant/radioman (AK-12)

>Medic (Medical satchel, AK-12)

>Medic (Medical satchel, AK-12)

>Grenadier (RPG, AK-12) or (ATGM, AK-12) or (AGS-30, AK-12)

>Grenadier assistant (RPG ammo, AK-12) or (ATGM tripod/optics, AK-12) or (AGS-30 ammunition, AK-12)

>Support gunner (RPK-12)

>Support gunner (RPK-12)

>Machine gunner (PKM, PKM ammo)

>MG assistant (PKM ammo, AK-12)

>Support sniper (SVD)

When driven in an AFV, the driver/mechanic replaces either the sniper or one of the support gunners, and stays with the vehicle. Also if the AFV has a gunner position, the PKM team or the grenadier team stays with the vehicle as vehicle gunners. Obviously a squad can be changed if more of one or another type of specialist is needed, and specialists sometimes carry SMGs like PP-2000 or Bizon in certain units (naval infantry loves their Bizons).

Soviet squads are mostly indivisible because they don't delegate authority well, but they have a lot of specialists in their team, so they can deal with a lot of problems.

Western infantry squads are limited by size of vehicles, mostly composed of a squad leader (1), two fireteam leaders (2), and two three-man (2x3) fireteam members, for a total of nine people. Marines add an extra fireteam for a total of 13 people. Squad organization is very low on specialists, but authority is delegated quickly, and it's compact. NATO countries have special squads more often, instead of having specialists within a squad, because it's easier to put a special squad and their equipment in one AFV that way.

Canadian squads are composed of 16 people, a squad staff sergeant and three assault groups of five. Each assault group is 4 man mixed munition team plus a sergeant. Each assault group members are divided into two fireteams, consisting of a guy and his buddy. Often specialty fireteams can exist of a machine gunner and his assistant for example. This gives us ultimate splitability and lightning-quick delegation of authority, while also giving us a very high variety of specialists. This is obviously the most superior type of squad just as the Leaf is the most superior type of humanoid.

>>526820

Because the marine corps was pissed off at being stuck with burst fire M16s as their rifle and weapons procurement wouldn't give them M4s to replace the M16s so they decided to adopt an """automatic rifle""" That's just a full auto AR-15.

>>526828

> Burger Tier 1 units aren't using H&K 416 as their main rifle

>>526867

Hungarian squad according to regulations:

>vehicle driver

>vehicle gunner

>squad leader with AK

>assistant squad leader with RPG

>assistant squad leader's assistant gunner with AK and RPG ammo

>medic

>PKM gunner

>PKM gunner

It might be a bit strange, but during the Cold War the Hungarian army's one and only job was to drive through Austira, and preferably reach Italy. So it was all speed and firepower. Then people kind of forgot that we are supposed to have an army, so…

>>526870

>Implying the Muhreens ever wanted an M4

A Brit that doesn't know what he's talking about, imagine that.

>>526876

Filtered

>>526873

If they start at night they're bound to not be discovered until morning, meeting only light resistance at border guard posts and the such. By dawn maybe the local police trying to form a roadblock or run them off the roads.

It wouldn't be until late morning next day that military resistance would be organized and even then it would be light. PKMs can penetrate light armor at 500m ranges, and RPGs can deal with roadblocks or medium armor easily.

For that kind of opposition,

>RPG

>PKM

>PKM

Sounds like more than enough. They'd cut through the Austrians like a hot knife through butter.

They'd have the run of the place for 10-15 hours, enough time to (starting in border region) enter Austria, burn Vienna to the ground, motor their way to Italy, invade Italy and burn the place from the alps down to Rome.

>>526871

>SCARs aren't basically the rifle of SOF

>>526903

Not for Delta and DEVGRU

>>526899

I'm not so sure that we would have been able to "sneak" to the border without them mobilizing, especially because it was meant to be a sideshow for the main attraction in the Fulda gap. But I find it funny that the dismounted element of a single squad has as many GPMGs as a platoon of the US Army. Of course those two GPMGs have tripods, while the PKMs can only rely on the bipods.

>>526907

Tripods are only a help for FOBs, when you have a fixed position and are going to fight an approaching enemy. Then they give you more stability and effective range.

If you're going to be moving forward or back (or forward really really really fast), and are expecting the enemy to show up well within your effective range, a bipod is actually better as its lighter and offers a wider field of fire. At least I think so, but that's just like my opinion man.

You know, it wouldn't be such a stupid idea if they would issue the guys who carried the things with coffin mags so they could actually provide more than 2 seconds of supporting fires. Instead, they just decided to make the fuckers hump about 30 mags, and make his a-gunner carry another 30. I guess refining the SAW was beyond the pale, but HK needs their shekels, yes sir!

>>527014

>they just decided to make the fuckers hump about 30 mags, and make his a-gunner carry another 30. I guess refining the SAW was beyond the pale, but HK needs their shekels, yes sir!

I thought marines used 40 round magpol magszines for the M27?