/islam/ - 8ch Masjid

You didnt break a rule, there was a problem with alacrity and we lost the thread. Excellent story, mashaAllah,

>sense something deeply wrong with the way society is (dis)ordered

>know bible fairly well, think not much of it

>obviously xianity has no solution in the real world or even for the intellect

>experiment with communism and fascism (irl, before chans existed)

>go to protests in DC and NYC against Iraq war. Christians supporting the invasions, spitting on us. We are marching with muslim/palestinian groups agaisnt the war

>get heavy into holocaust revisionism

>interested in holocaust cartoons from islamic world

>start working out to nasheeds, watching islamic videos

>start to realize Islam has the correct social order and perhaps this is not by chance but because the sharia is from a loving Creator.

>read Quran…. this is what I wished the Bible was, it's what I've always believed about Allah.

>eventually ask for a sign

>open Quran randomly

>Allah says the creation is sign for man

>fall on hands and knees, praying asking Allah to let me believe in Him

>realize i wouldn't be praying to Allah if I didn't already believe.

My story is simple:

>Raised Methodist

>Become Buddhist at 15, but don't give up Isa bin Maryam

>Go to college

>Graduate, join Navy

>Go to Middle East, meet people

>Come home, continue study of Islam

>Go to mosque with friend

>Declare shahadah in 2004

Pretty straight forward

>>24343

Yeah bro, I'm old now. All this happened when Bush the son was in office. I proposed to a sister from a muslim vbulletin forum and she told me she was 50, disabled, had three kids, going blind and I said I didn't care I wanted to marry her for her deen. I also said she doesn't have to show me her face (she wears niqab). Well it turned out she was 20 and a virgin. And when I took off her veil after our wedding I was stunned by her beauty. Alhamdulillah. I eventually divorced her but we had good two years and memories together. I was young, needed parental support and my parents were still too shocked by my reversion to participate in my life, that doomed the marriage honestly.

Then I got married a more traditional way the next time. Still married to her. I don't regret either marriage in the slightest. I thank Allah swt for making these women halal for me and keeping me from unlawful women.

My advice is to hold off on marriage until one of three factors: you can support a family yourself, your family will help, the girl's family understands and has means.

/end marriage rant. Just reliving my past lol

>>24345

>All this happened when Bush the son was in office.

Ah, back then I didn't even know what Islam was. :D

> I proposed to a sister from a muslim vbulletin forum and she told me she was 50, disabled, had three kids, going blind and I said I didn't care I wanted to marry her for her deen. I also said she doesn't have to show me her face (she wears niqab). Well it turned out she was 20 and a virgin. And when I took off her veil after our wedding I was stunned by her beauty. Alhamdulillah.

Do you mean the 'Ummah' forum? I love to lurk there. It also seems like there's a lot of single and devout sisters looking for husbands over there, even today.

Also, that's a smart test made by her. I wish I could marry a woman like that one day, lol.

>I eventually divorced her but we had good two years and memories together. I was young, needed parental support and my parents were still too shocked by my reversion to participate in my life, that doomed the marriage honestly. Then I got married a more traditional way the next time. Still married to her. I don't regret either marriage in the slightest. I thank Allah swt for making these women halal for me and keeping me from unlawful women.

Sorry to hear about the divorce, but I'm glad it all worked out for you. I've heard something similar from another anon here, where it's important to involve your family in the marriage process (especially your mother). I guess mother-wife compatibility it important!

>My advice is to hold off on marriage until one of three factors: you can support a family yourself, your family will help, the girl's family understands and has means.

Yeah, I'm definitely following this advice. I'm still in the middle of my university studies and my family doesn't know about my reversion (I'm not telling them out of respect, since I still live in their house). When I'm financially independent, I will tell them. I can't wait until I'm financially independent, because then I'll also be able to start going to the mosque regularly.

>/end marriage rant. Just reliving my past lol

It is very interesting! Thanks for sharing.

>>24344

What a great reversion story, thank you for sharing. It's always great to see other Christians that reverted to Islam.

>>24346

I was "Musa Hilal" on Ummah forum. That was a good forum. But I met the sister on 7cgen. Things were so different in the American muslim community back then. I remember when every muslim house had a stack of Anwar al-Awlaki's lecture cd's. And I know people who were named after him by their parents. Then he joined the guerilla war in Yemen and the US killed him and his family and the American muslims pretend now he never existed. His lectures were considered essential listening across the American and British islamic communities in the 00's, we used to eagerly await them in the mail. The community is a lot different now and highly self-censoring and paranoid because we have been the law enforcement and media's punching bag for almost 20 years now.

Bump!

>>24825

Sadly, it's not as easy being Muslim in America anymore. If it's not law enforcement, then it's average ignorant citizens who think it's their duty to harass Muslims. I'm generally overlooked because I'm a blue-eyed white guy, but it pains me every time I see a brother or sister being openly insulted or harassed just for being out in public. I stand up for them whenever I can, but even that can be dangerous - like what happened in Portland back in May.

While I fear only Allah, that doesn't stop me from worrying about what will happen to my kids and my wife if I'm stabbed to death by some jack-ass because I take a stand against Islamophobia.

>>24825

>It is, yeah! I don't know why forums like that get a lot of hate from some Muslims, they call them too religious and whatnot.

Only reddit genderqueer muslims would say that. Literally only them. Normal muslims know ummah forum. Normal muslims knows it's a fine discussion site, alhamdulillah.

>I'll definitely have to look him up. Do you have any other recommendations for sheiks/imams/preachers that are active right now? I don't really have a mosque community (and I won't until I move out and I'm financially independent) and I'd love to learn more.

Checkout the Salafi lecture thread and the livestream thread. Every week there are khutbahs broadcast live from Birmingham UK, New Jersey, and Tennessee. If no one posts them they're still going to be in the linked youtube feeds.

Green Lane Masjid in Birmingham is a very active mosque and they livestream everything. Same with masjid As-habul Yameen in New Jersey.

>I've actually noticed that too, yeah. I was actually browsing r/Islam a few days ago and I've noticed a common trend where a lot of Muslims throw each other under the bus to look more favourable in the eyes of non-Muslims. It's weird.

Half of that place is non-muslim to begin with. Islamic discussion communities should be fully anonymous or with clear identities (profiles/avatars/signatures) so people know who they're dealing with. There are 'Eat.Pray.Love'' groupies who have read some poetry from a medieval whirling dervish and think they are down with us. They'll also do us the unasked favor of correcting our thoughtcrimes. R/islam is a bunch of knuckleheads with cute names like Milk_Sheikh talking nonsense and wanting upvotes… stay away is my advice.

>>24827

>it's a fine discussion site

it was until like 1.5 years ago when they changed moderation policy.

>>24828

Is Abu Mubarak still there? He was a good mod, what happened?

>>24829

Abu Mubarak was not active last time I was there. Basically they promoted all the khariji minded types(ranging form HTers to literal isis supporters) who started deleting every thread or post they disagreed with. Almost none of the old users even remain anymore, and new ones don't really stick around for long. Unfortunately not much point to that place anymore.

>>24830

Madkhalis always got dogpiled on Ummah forum. That doesn't mean Ummah forum has a "policy" to conspire against them unless there is some kind of proof.

>ranging form HTers to literal isis supporters

The only thing HT and ISIS have in common is they want a caliphate. They disagree on literally everything else. HT just goes to every muslim leader in the world and says "can you please call yourself caliph and rule by Islam, then we will make bayah to you." That actually sounds fine in theory… problem is they asked Khomeini that… they didn't know shias hate caliphate. HT has other problems too, like saying they "trust" sahih hadith ahad but don't "believe" it. I hate trini-tier wordgames like that.

Anyway HT is basically retarded, especially HT in Iraq. They tried to get some Shia on the US payroll to declare himself caliph and he dismembered a few of their people. So naive. Forgive them, ameen

>>24831

>They disagree on literally everything else.

They agree on the fundamentals which are those of the khawarij. The only difference is that isis wants to attack both westerners and muslim countries whereas HT only want chaos in muslim countries.

>>24832

>>24832

>caliphate in muslim countries.

Ftfy.

Some Muslims want tawaghet, others want khilafah. Let's respect eachother's opinions and have a reasonable discussion in the political thread.

>>24840

He died in 2011. Are you concern-trolling?

>>24841

im seriously not trolling. Look at him. he has isis flags and everything. So what if he died? he died as a ISIS supporter.

>>24842

ISIS was just a small underground AQ affiliate in 2011 and they certainly hadn't committed anything near the atrocities they eventually did. IS don't own that flag and it's still used in other conflicts by other sunni groups. Sunnis had a right to be happy when ISIS took some power, but ISIS was overly brutal to prisoners, hasty, bad diplomatically, and detached from mainstream sunni scholars. Quickly it turned out they were super radical and as a result unfit and likely khawarij. It's really unfortunate and a complete catastrophe. My point is in 2011 no one knew these things. Certainly Imam Anwar didn't and he was in Yemen not Iraq.

So you need to calm down please or take this to the political thread. Thanks a lot.

>>24840

>>24842

Does being a supporter of something you don't like make him automatically wrong? The message is always more important than the messenger.

If the person who told you that 2+2 = 4 turned out to be a rapist, it doesn't mean 2+2 != 4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OUVR0QBOA4

Sheikh Tip now teaches Arabi.