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e6f1c7  No.20713

Not sure if there's already a thread on this, but can someone fill me in on Sufism? I'm "new" to Islam with only about a year and a half under my belt, but from the little I read about Sufism/Islamic spirituality/esoterism and it seems to more or less be my thing.

But I still don't know much about it aside from what I've read from brief touch ups on it from books on Islamic history and the little I've read of Rumi's works. I currently consider myself predominantly Sunni in terms of my deen, if it helps.

ead811  No.20723

Sufism is not set in stone, as in there is no school of thought. There is Sufi Sunni Sufi shia etc. It doesn't actually mean anything imo other than wanting or having a deeper meaning

Personally I just learned about bhidism duality of ego and consciousness, and applied it to Islam with the nafs and rue


e6f1c7  No.20724

>>20723

That seems to sum up what I've read into so far, I.E being an umbrella term for various groups rather than dedicated sects like Sunni or Shia. I was just curious what the major and more well known Sufi orders are, or if there's even such a thing as "orthodox sufism".


12429c  No.20725

>>20724

The major orthodox Sunni Sufi orders are the Naqshbandiyya, the Qadiriyya, the Shadhiliyya, the Chishtiyya, the Tijaniyya, the Rifa'iyya, and the Mawlawiyya. Those are the most important ones I can think of at the moment.

I am a Shadhili myself.


437e75  No.20730

>>20713

Do you mind sharing your conversion story?


12429c  No.20736

>>20730

Conversion to what, exactly?


437e75  No.20737

>>20736

Islam


12429c  No.20738

>>20737

I never said I was a convert.


437e75  No.20739

>>20738

You said you were "new." My bad.


12429c  No.20740

>>20739

No I didn't.


437e75  No.20741

>>20740

>I'm "new" to Islam with only about a year and a half under my belt,

Literally in OP.


12429c  No.20742

>>20741

OP ID: e6f1c7

My ID: 12429c

Also, my first post in this thread was in response to OP. OP doesn't know much about Sufism and I'm offering info. How is this hard to understand?


437e75  No.20743

>>20742

Then why did you respond to my message asking OP about his conversion story…


12429c  No.20744

>>20743

Shit, I didn't even look at what post you were responding to. Sorry about that.


437e75  No.20745

>>20744

My bad too. I coulda caught it was a different ID.


e6f1c7  No.20762

>>20725

Thanks, that's mostly just the information I was looking for.

>>20730

Sorry I'm late to this question, but I don't really have much of a story to tell. I was raised Roman Catholic and became an atheist in my early high school years and then later on ( around 17 I think) I started feeling empty inside without a religion to look to and some sort of external guidance so I took a while to do my research on a few major religions.

I had a strong distaste for Catholicism and eventually found Islam, did quite a bit of reading into it and decided on Islam was the religion for me so I converted. I'm 20 now btw.


144f38  No.20771

>>20725

I would expect Sufism to be dominated by Shia


12429c  No.20779

>>20771

Sufi orders exists among the Shi'a, but they are strongly disapproved of by the Ayatollahs and don't really operate openly in Iran. They are seen as rivals for spiritual authority and are often regarded as crypto-Sunni (every Shi'a Sufi order is an offshoot of a Sunni order and only became Shi'a during the Safavid period).

Historically, Sufism is an integrally Sunni phenomenon and was only grafted into a Shi'a mileu much later. All the great Sufis were Sunni: Bayazid Bistami, Imam Junayd, al-Hallaj, Abdullah Ansari, al-Qushayri, al-Ghazali, al-Suhrawardi, Abu Madyan, 'Abdul-Qadir al-Jilani, Muinuddin Chishti, Bahauddin Naqshband, Ibn 'Arabi, Ibn Sab'in, Mevlana Jalaluddin Rumi, Ibn Barrajan, Ibn Mashish, Abu'l Hasan ash-Shadhili, Ahmad Zarruq, etc.

Sufism was officially supported by the majority of Sunni political dynasties, like the later Abbasids, the Idrisis in Morocco, the Mamluks, and most significantly, the Ottomans.

The vast majority of Sunni 'ulama either accept Sufism as legitimate, or are members of Sufi tariqas themselves.

Shaykh al-Yaqoubi of Syria is a Shadhili-Darqawi; Habib 'Umar ibn Hafiz and Habib 'Ali al-Jifri of Yemen are Ba'Alawi; Shaykh 'Ali al-Jumu'ah (former Grand Mufti of Egypt) is a Shadhili; Shaykh Salahuddin al-Misri is a Tijani; 'Abdullah bin Bayyah of Mauritania is a Shadhili; Akhtar Raza Khan (Grand Mufti of India) and Muneeb-ur-Rahman (Grand Mufti of Pakistan) are both Qadiri; Hafiz Sabri Koci (the late Grand Mufti of Albania) was a Tijani; most of the major 'ulama of West Africa are Qadiri or Tijani. In the U.S., Zaid Shakir is a Shadhili-'Alawi, Ninowy is a Shadhili-Siddiqi, Yahya Rhodus is Ba'Alawi, Na'eem Abdul-Wali is a Naqshbandi.




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