/islam/ - 8ch Masjid

>>20149

No, it is not true and this is a stupid thread.

>>20151

Aisha was betrothed to the Prophet by her parents and with full permission of everyone involved after the man to whom she was originally betrothed had died in battle.

That's not a simple "married and banged a loli".

>>20151

Historical analysis suggests Aisha was 16-20 years old.

>>20149

btw that image was taken out of context obviously.

it was at a reciting contest and she forgot a hadith so she started crying so he hold her like that to reassure her.

There are videos of it.

>>20157

>forgetting to recite a hadith

>at a contest

is the prize being spared her life? Perhaps she crying because she's gonna get stoned to death.

>>20158

>>20149

It's pretty normal for a young child to burst into tears when they fail at something they work hard at.

it also happens in those talent completion TV shows that the west loves so much. do you shoot up kids who failed?

I've got 8 child brides and all it cost me was two goats and 57 live scorpions, do it OP

>>20158

Or perhaps she was crying because you drone striked her sister's wedding? You can stop pretending you care about her life now.

>>20169

>you drone striked her sister's wedding

Well, first of all, it ain't us drone striking anything. We no more get to tell our President what to do than you get to tell your PM. Second, it's a well known and famous little bit of video from back before ISIS went power hungry and insane. She's crying because she messed up at a competition. Children do that.

>>20158

she still got the present after that and was smiling and laughing at the end of the video.

>>20161

That's a bit expensive. were they your kids? I mean the bribes not the goats.

>>20169

I thought that in Islam we're all supposed to treat women like one step above animals so nah I guess I don't care about some cunt lel

>>20175

Not sure where you got that idea - I suspect /pol/ - but women and men are equal in Islam. Different roles, yes, but equal.

>>20176

Top Kek.

Quran (4:11) - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females" (see also verse 4:176). In Islam, sexism is mathematically established.

Quran (2:282) - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women." Muslim apologists offer creative explanations to explain why Allah felt that a man's testimony in court should be valued twice as highly as a woman's, but studies consistently show that women are actually less likely to tell lies than men, meaning that they make more reliable witnesses.

Quran (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them [women]"

Quran (5:6) - "And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it" Men are to rub dirt on their hands, if there is no water to purify them, following casual contact with a woman (such as shaking hands).

Quran (24:31) - Women are to lower their gaze around men, so they do not look them in the eye. (To be fair, men are told to do the same thing in the prior verse).

Quran (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will…" A man has dominion over his wives' bodies as he does his land. This verse is overtly sexual. There is some dispute as to whether it is referring to the practice of anal intercourse. If this is what Muhammad meant, then it would appear to contradict what he said in Muslim (8:3365).

Quran (4:3) - (Wife-to-husband ratio) "Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four" Inequality by numbers.

Quran (53:27) - "Those who believe not in the Hereafter, name the angels with female names." Angels are sublime beings, and would therefore be male.

Quran (4:24) and Quran (33:50) - A man is permitted to take women as sex slaves outside of marriage. Note that the verse distinguishes wives from captives (those whom they right hand possesses).

>>20177

Yep, all dragged from jihadwatch, disseminated on places like /pol/, without one iota of context. Since you're not Muslim I don't feel the need to bother correcting you.

>>20178

>all dragged from jihadwatch

nope but nice try.

>>20149

1)Men have more obligations than women in Islam. He has to support his , his parents, provide a dowry for marriage, etc. The women has zero obligations. Even if she was filthy rich, she is not expected to provide for anyone else than herself. Frankly, I pity the guy more.

2) http://www.answering-christianity.com/karim/why_two_women_witnesses.htm

3) this ayat is about wudhu. We are to purify ourselves completely before prayer. The same is expected on the women if they have contact with men because touching a non-muhrim breaks it.

4) Then why mention it. Islam promotes modesty. Also, the surah you're quoting form also mentions on how a single woman's testimony requires 4 other testimony when it comes to accusations of her chastity. Guess Islam is oppressing men as well /s.

5) the reason tilth is used here is because it is used for growing crops. A farmer approaches a tilth with the intention of producing crops. A husband should approach his wife in a similar manner, with the intention of producing offsprings.

6)Read the next line: "But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses".

the are also multiple reasons for the allowance for polygamy. The big one at the time was then husbands died in war. Allowing the men to take up an extra wife (remember, the men are expected to provide for all their wives and children) allowed for widows to receive proper monetary and societal aid.

And still, the men is expected to be able to equally treat his wives, if he cannot, then he is not permitted to marrying more than once.

7) You misinterpreted this verse. You have to read from verse 19, but it deals with the pagan goddesses of the Arab world at the time.

Disbelievers stated them as daughters of god and as angels. In Islam, angels are not divinity, nor can they intercede for you. Even in the time of Adam, the angels bowed to man, not the other way around. You are mixing western perspective in your interpretation

and by your logic, a servant of humanity must only be male then.

8) Not sure what your point is here. Yes, slavery laws exist in Islam. Anyway there's a lot of sticklers for this topic, it's not a free slave harem as it appears to be. The guideline for the relations with a slave girl is as follows:

- girls captured as prisoners of war. they go to the islamic govt who then decides to either free them, ransom, exchange prisoners or lastly, distribute them to the soldiers.

-soldiers are allowed to have sex with the slave given to them BUT can only do so after ensuring that they are not pregnant (through waiting for the menstrual cycle to occur)

- however, if a child is born from the relation, then the child is consider a full legitimate child, and the mother can no longer be sold to anyone and is fully freed upon the masters death.

-also, the master cannot have sexual relations with a slave if she is married to someone else but he may still have her work for him in other ways.

the slave girls are generally procured during times of war. This method was used to ensure that the women (whose husbands may have died) are provided for and helps them integrate into society. Their children getting full inheritance rights is acts

as a deterrence against wanton sex while also giving the slave a better future.

>>20179

the reason we believe that you simply copy pasted tidbits you took from various anti-Islam sites is because you did not actually read through these verses. The verse about wudhu for example is obviously talking about spiritual cleanliness, yet you took it as a passage stating women are unclean.

The verse on the angles is also one which isn't very complicated to understand and it's meaning would have been obvious in context with the rest of the passage.

An surah an-nisa (which is literally "The Women"), the one you repeatedly quote, would also list things like how women are not to be treated as part of the estate, or how a dowry is mandatory and is forbidden for a man to take it back, and even the establishment of justice for women.

I don't know if you will actually read any of this, but please form a fair opinion of us and not just from the anti-muslim propaganda.

>>20180

>He has to support his

He has to support his wife and kids,

>>20157

quran not hadith