/islam/ - 8ch Masjid

http://www.greenstar.org/Islam/

>Islamic literature and poetry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_literature

>>20191

Be warned: That is a very, very opinionated book. If you want to learn about something, you should find completely neutral, unbiased sources of information.

>>20192

Confirmed, this is completely biased trash that justifies rape and mention that the killing of the innocent is completely justified.

Anti-Muslim propaganda.

>>20193

Why did you buy it then?

if someone here posess an link to Al kindi, Aviccena or ibn tamiyyah works it will be really appreciated if is shared on comunnity.

>>20194

I didn't

>>20197

Wait …

>>20191

>I recently purchased this book

Yeah you did. Did you not notice IDs?

>>20196

>ibn tamiyyah

https://www.kalamullah.com/ibn-taymiyyah.html

>Aviccena

http://www.muslimphilosophy.com/sina/

>al Kindi

http://www.muslimphilosophy.com/kindi/

>>20198

We've been taqiyya'd once again.

I used Library Genesis It's not like the author deserved the money either way.

>>20206

>I recently purchased this book

translation

>I recently pirated this book

>>20206

Ah, so "purchased" has an alternate definition in your mind. That's alright. Just caused a bit of confusion.

>>20206

to most people "purchased at a bookstore" means something completely different to "downloaded an online pdf"

no one cares whether you paid for your download or not, and you don't need to mention you pirated it.

we're not going to report you if you did, so why even lie about such a thing?

Can anyone recommend me some books on early Islamic history? Anything related to the first caliphates, etc.

>>20269

Books, no, but you can just do a Google search and get a lot of information.

>>20226

Indeed, I lied, my intention was to remain anonymous from someone that might've thought I browsed the board by mentioning buying it at a bookstore, when clearly no books about Islam and less in English are sold here.

My apologies for that.

>>20277

that doesn't make any sense

>>20279

Well, that's the best I can explain it, I don't see why this is being discussed further. Just take it or leave it.

>>20269

If they are written by reputable historians with PhDs in Islamic history then they're good. You can start with all of William Montgomery Watt's books.

Start with Muhammad at Mecca(1953)

You have to get into the Islamic origins debate - essentially the Quranic religion # Islam, the latter being a creation of later Arabic dynastic muslims and this is demonstrable through historical fact. The muslims took the baloney hadith to make up their religion and 're-interpret' the Quran.

Muhammad and the believers by Fred Donner seems to be very good. The history seems to back the Quran in so many ways.

The 'hadith' are idol worshipping trash and their only relevance is to see the pathetic factionalism that existed amongst early post Quranic arabs, which is hinted at in the Quran.

>>20334

>>20335

>>>/modernislam/

>>20334

>>20335

"And whoever contradicts and opposes the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) after the right path has been shown clearly to him, and follows other than the believers' way. We shall keep him in the path he has chosen, and burn him in Hell - what an evil destination."

[4:115]

"Indeed, those who have divided their religion and become sects - you, [O Muhammad], are not [associated] with them in anything. Their affair is only [left] to Allah ; then He will inform them about what they used to do."

[6:159]

"Abu `Amir al-Hawdhani said: Mu`awiyah b. Abi Sufiyan stood among us and said: Beware! The Apostle of Allah (ﷺ) stood among us and said: Beware! The people of the Book before were split up into seventy two sects, and this community will be split into seventy three: seventy two of them will go to Hell and one of them will go to Paradise, and it is the majority group. Sunan Abi Dawood 4597"

"Abu Dawood and al-Haakim reported with a saheeh isnaad from al-Miqdaam that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Soon there will be a time when a man will be reclining on his couch, narrating a hadeeth from me, and he will say, ‘Between us and you is the Book of Allaah: what it says is halaal, we take as halaal, and what it says is haraam, we take as haraam.’ But listen! Whatever the Messenger of Allaah forbids is like what Allaah forbids.” (Al-Fath al-Kabeer, 3/438. Al-Tirmidhi reported it with different wording, and said that it is hasan saheeh. Sunan al-Tirmidhi bi Sharh Ibn al-‘Arabi, al-Saawi edn., 10/132)."

I like the translation Message of the Quran by Muhammad Asad. Also all the books he made are great

>>20514

Interesting choice. I'll have to pick up a copy.