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"Allah is but one God. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs." [4:171]

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f3baed  No.19757

So I made a muslim friend and I wanted to ask him some questions but I don't wanna offend him so I'll ask you guys instead.

1. Is praying 5x daily obligatory? I don't see him praying at work, at least not in public. What's the rule regarding this? Can you bundle up your prayers in the morning and evening instead? To avoid looking awkward in public?

2. If bacon touches your rice/fries, can you remove the pork and just eat the food? Or is the food considered contaminated?

3. His girlfriend is hindu, are muslims allowed to date hindus? Or "date" at all? She dresses conservatively and is monotheist, but she isn't muslim.

thnx

f3baed  No.19758

>Can you bundle up your prayers in the morning and evening instead?

It is not possible to "bundle up your prayers" in a literal sense, but it is possible to replace the prayers that you missed.

>If bacon touches your rice/fries, can you remove the pork and just eat the food? Or is the food considered contaminated?

The food is considered contaminated, but most moderate/weak-willed muslim will eat said food nonetheless.

>His girlfriend is hindu, are muslims allowed to date hindus? Or "date" at all? She dresses conservatively and is monotheist, but she isn't muslim.

In my opinion dating with non-muslim is A-OK. Other muslim might disagree with my opinion (especially xenophobic muslims, like that Canadian asperger.)


f3baed  No.19759

>>19758

Correction, it is possible to bundle up 2 prayers within the same time (like bundling up noon & afternoon prayers) but it is not possible to bundle up all 5 prayers within a single time.


f3baed  No.19760

>Prayer

There are 5 obligatory prayers at specific times of the day. You have to do those at their correct times. Bundling is an option depending on the specific sect or school of thought. Some allow it, some don't.

>Bacon touching food

You'd remove the bit that touched the bacon. If it touches a liquid you'd assume the liquid as a whole was contaminated.

Also note that a lot of shops fry food in pig fat, or use the same fryer for pig products and fries. That still counts as haraam.

>Dating

Depends. Sex outside marriage is bad, but there's nothing wrong with being friendly.


f3baed  No.19762

>>19757

Genuine questions shouldn't offend.


f3baed  No.19764

>>19758

>like that Canadian asperger.

Is it possible for you to make a post without insulting someone else?


f3baed  No.19775

>>19764

Just bantz

>>19772

There's no verse that forbids dating/seeking companionship with a non-muslim.


f3baed  No.19782

>>19775

>Just bantz

That's not an excuse.


f3baed  No.19784

>>19775

O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people, they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear to you, if you will understand. (3:118)

Dating non-Muslims is a bad idea.


f3baed  No.19838

>>19764

That Canadian dude really is a piece of fucking shit though.


f3baed  No.19840

>>19838

Can't argue with this one.


f3baed  No.19843

>>19838

Wait where is the filter.


f3baed  No.19844

>>19838

No, not really, and such opinions can be kept to yourself.

>>19843

The little arrow next to the name.


f3baed  No.19846

>>19843

Word filters were removed.


f3baed  No.19848

>>19846

y tho?


f3baed  No.19849

>>19848

I think because people should choose to be civil, not forced to be. People who can't be civil of their own accord should be ignored. If someone chooses to act like a child, then they will be treated like a child; but they should be given the choice.


f3baed  No.19850

>>19847

If you're who I'm thinking of, you're an edgy Pan-Islamist who stops just short of (((Al Qaeda))) levels of cartoonish.

You treat everyone who has an even minor difference of opinion than you as your mortal enemy, an apostate, a Shi'a and a liberal.

Basically you're every other Paki Migrant's angsty teenage kid.


f3baed  No.19853

>>19850

There is more than one Canadian on the board. Just FYI.


f3baed  No.19855

>>19853

All Canadians are the same person actually. That's like a general fact you can even google it.


f3baed  No.19856

>>19855

So, Canadians are like Australians? Neat.


f3baed  No.19874

>>19854

I only support massacring Fundamentalists in self defense. :^)


f3baed  No.19877

muslims are supposed to grow beards, right? what about indonesians and others, who can't grow them or grow very poor ones?

i want some kind of historical ruling on this if possible, especially premodern scholars trying to make sense of why some people have no facial hair while being asked to fallow the example of the prophet honoring the beard as a gift from god to adam (I guess after the rib thing anything goes).


f3baed  No.19878

>>19877

The Sunnah concerns not shaving, which is not the same as growing. Even if you're physically incapable of growing a full beard, you follow the Sunnah by not shaving.


f3baed  No.19882

>>19877

I remember a story about one of the Sahaba (not 100% he is tho) who would cry because he wasn't able to grow a beard.

it took me a while to grow one myself.


f3baed  No.19894

>>19878

but still

all descend from adam

and adam got the beard from god

so are these beardless people are deprived of it, did anyone try to explain why?


f3baed  No.19895

>>19894

I think the explanation is the same as why we have so many different shades of people. It's how Allah wanted it.


f3baed  No.19912

>>19895

but beards are supposedly meant as augmentation of appearance and a gift to adam, the progenitor of humanity

there is bound to be a theological rationalization of beardless peoples somewhere out there


f3baed  No.19913

>>19912

Sometimes a beard is just a beard. Adam was the progenitor of humanity, but we do not all look like Adam. Some are shorter, taller, lighter, darker, fatter, thinner, and so on.

It is to show that we are all capable of submission to Allah. A beard no more makes you Muslim than not having a beard makes you kafir.

I don't know what answer you're looking for, but someone incapable of growing a beard can still be Muslim.

There is a terrific read on this here:

https://www.al-islam.org/articles/islamic-perspective-of-the-beard


f3baed  No.20037

>>19758

Dating with a MUSLIM is not A-OK, so how can you say dating a non-muslim is ok? Dating is haram bro


f3baed  No.20050

>>20037

How do you know if the girl is compatible with your goals and personality? Do you have an interview like at a job? Serious question.

I've dated girls who seemed great for a month or two until I noticed some deep personality flaws, subtle stuff…


f3baed  No.20052

>>20050

First you ask about her and her family from some people you know or their neighborhood she will also ask about you. Secondly no one is complete so you shouldn't expect a fully compatible person. Forgive flaws just like others will forgive your flaws. You can see the girl and take to her if you liked each other than it's alright just similar to an interview if you like to call it that. She might even see you and decide not to let you see her if she didn't like you. I mean you say dating will help but what if they were faking all the time also explain the huge divorce rates if dating can help in anything. If you both liked eachothers get married. Didn't work? Divorce. Why waste months in dating while you can have an honest discussion from the beginning and speak about yourself honestly (most people won't do tha)? She has a flaw and something you don't like? Ask her to change people can change for the better. This system worked better than the system of dating then why should we complain. I think the flaw that marriage of non islamic countries that you give half your stuff or something like that and the legal system making men fair getting married or scammed by women.


655c4e  No.21214

>>20052

Sounds inefficient. Much better to date and simply not have sex until marriage.


b6f2f9  No.21215

>>21214

Hi /christian/ :^)


568dae  No.21220

>>21214

Nobody promised you life would be easy.


caf147  No.21223

>>21220

Ya but going out of your weigh to complicate things and do them inefficiently, just because of habit or tradition isn't wise. "Allah intends for you ease, and He does not want to make things difficult for you …" etc.

>>21215

I have a girlfriend, so what?


568dae  No.21230

>>21223

>Allah intends for you ease

That's referring to religion, not life in general. Temptation is omnipresent and it is our duty to submit to the will of Allah that we may avoid temptation.

But, I figure so long as you're not having sex outside of marriage, there's really no harm in modern "dating". Just remember to avoid the temptation when it presents itself.


b6f2f9  No.21231

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b6f2f9  No.21232

>>21230

>But, I figure so long as you're not having sex outside of marriage, there's really no harm in modern "dating". Just remember to avoid the temptation when it presents itself.

“No man should be alone with a woman unless there is a mahram with them.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (1862) and Muslim (1341). And he (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “No man is alone with a woman but the Shaytaan is the third one present.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (1171) and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

Al-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) narrated in Sharh Muslim (14/153) that there was consensus among the scholars that it is haraam for a man to be alone with a woman who is not his mahram. This was narrated by al-Haafiz in al-Fath (4/77).

The only way to avoid temptation is to avoid putting oneself in this situation to begin with. Closing this thread since there is someone here (troll?) bragging about his sins - in the middle of Ramadan no less.




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