/islam/ - 8ch Masjid

you cant cook with it and you can use alcohol free mouthwash, but if you need alcohol based mouthwash for some reason then its ok because its a medical use and wont get you drunk

>>19303

Ethanol boils at 78C so providing you get it all to evaporate away arguably it shouldn't be an issue.

During fasting you're allowed to rinse your mouth with water providing you don't swallow any, so maybe you could use mouthwash provided you don't swallow any? IDK but there are better options so you might as well just use them instead.

Ethanol itself is fine. The ruling on Alcohol is about alcoholic drinks. The general rule of thumb is that if it's something you're not supposed to drink, like mouthwash, or something that you'll fall ill before having enough to be affected, like food with alcohol evaporated, you're fine.

Then again it's all based on intention. If you're chugging mouthwash to get drunk that's haraam and stupid.

>>19331

How can ethanol be fine when it's alcohol?

>>19332

Ethanol is the active ingredient in alcoholic drinks, but it's much more than that. It's a fuel, it kills bacteria and it's used to make all sorts of chemicals. It evaporates quickly, so it's great for cleaning sensitive things like computer parts. You can't drink pure ethanol either, and if you did you'd probably die before getting drunk.

To add to that in Chemistry there are loads of chemicals known as alcohols. Only ethanol is drinkable in the form of alcoholic drinks, but that doesn't mean propanol and such are haraam just because they're known as alcohols.

Claiming that ethanol is haraam just because one of it's uses is drinking is like claiming a knife is haraam because one of it's uses is murder

They question thee about strong drinks and games of chance. Say: In both is great sin, and (some) utility for men; but the sin of them is greater than their usefulness. [2:219]

Verily, Allah sent down ailment and cure (thereof). So he made a cure for every ailment. So seek cure but seek not cure by unlawful things. [Abu Dawud]

>>19334

I am aware of the various uses ethanol has but this thread is about ingesting alcohol, he wants to use wine in his cooking not clean his drains with it.

I do use alcohol gel disinfectants, just to be clear, and I wouldn't have a problem in using it to clean an object.

Drinking ethanol, either neat or diluted would be haraam, whether it kills you first or not would be irrelevant.

I'm sorry if I gave the impression of being the type of person who thinks looking at a pork sausage would send one to hell.

>>19337

Whether you can use alcoholic drinks in food depends on the phrase "Whatever intoxicates in large quantities, then a small quantity of it is also forbidden", which appears in a few hadiths. I've seen people say that it means even a slight bit of ethanol in food would make it haraam. Since you can't boil away every bit of it without ruining the food that would make using alcoholic drinks in cooking a bad idea.

The other argument I've seen is the idea that the hadith is talking about people who only drink one or two glasses of wine, because they actually get drunk by the third. The guys who put forward this argument say that if the ethanol content is so insignificant that it might as well not be there, it should be ok.

Either way, buying alcoholic drinks and perpetuating the alcohol industry itself is a sin. It's better to stick to substitutes.

>>19348

Why would a muslim cook with alcohol? There is some natural alcohol in bread and dried fruits but this is part of the process and not intentional.

>>19362

Some recipies involve adding a bit of wine for flavour. You could omit it but then the food tastes different. That's why you use a halal substitute, such as a non-alcoholic version of a drink, or vinegars

>>19363

Muslims shouldn't do these recipes.