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Certainly the promise of Allah is true. Let not then this present life deceive you.
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"Allah is but one God. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs." [4:171]

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f38c7d  No.17297

I've been thinking a bit about God and whether he can assume a human form and walk among us, like a programmer making a character for himself in his video game.

I think via omnipotence and omnipresence he could simultaneously be in the world and beyond the world. Kind of like how a player is both outside a video game and within it, obviously the analogy isn't perfect…but still.

What does Islamic theology say about this?

f38c7d  No.17305

God created space, time, and matter. Which means he is independent of space, time, and matter. If God created space and matter, that means He existed at a point where there was no space or matter. So God HIMSELF is not a part of space and matter, and cannot ever be.


f38c7d  No.17313

God is nowhere.


f38c7d  No.17315

>>17305

>>17305

>and cannot ever be

not sure why you think so.

via omnipresence he can be anywhere, any time, while also transcending any place and any time.

add omnipotence to the mix and he has no problem interacting, participating and engaging personally with his creation.


f38c7d  No.17326

>>17315

You asked:

>What does Islamic theology say about this?

You were answered. In Islamic theology, God maybe can do these things; but He doesn't.


f38c7d  No.17335

>>17326

>God maybe can do these things;

cool, that makes sense

>but He doesn't.

If it's possible for God to do X I don't think we can deny him the freedom of doing it, we have no basis to limit him.


f38c7d  No.17341

>>17335

Qur’an 112:3-4: "He begets not, nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him."

The moment you can imagine or compare ‘God’ to anything, then he is not God. It is not possible to conjure up a mental picture of the One True God.


f38c7d  No.17349

>>17341

That remains true even if he manifests on earth. Since he is both immanent and transcendent.

No problem there.


f38c7d  No.17420

>>17305

What about the burning bush?


f38c7d  No.17421

>>17420

Not in Qur'an. Rumi mentions such things in his book Masnavi, but it's not in Qur'an.


f38c7d  No.17779

>>17421

but isn't that in ta ha?


f38c7d  No.19113

>>17349

He is Ahad. One. Only one of his kind. There are no two Allah, there is just One.

Get it?


f38c7d  No.20506

>>19113

Him being only one of his kind, and him being able to manifest on earth makes sense to me. What makes you think that there are now two Allah in this hypothetical?




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