/hypno/ - Hypnochan

one problem i have is when i have a very bothersome day and when i try to trance late at night, I cant focus because my thoughts always go towards the things that annoyed me and eventually give up for the night. Try to avoid things that bother you durring the day befor doing hypno so u avoid mental distractions.

the other advice will be to concentrate on the hypno, just listen, try not to think the rest takes care of itself.

try to trance when you r a little bit tirred, before sleep is best for me. waking up dreinking coffee and trying hypno dosnt make sense to me. being too tired is also bad if u ask me, u might go to sleep which for me is a waste

.. I may be able to help. First - in your "own" words; can you describe EXACTLY what you think you mean when use the word "trance" as a verb?

>>48140

Drugs

>>48142

I know trance is a state of mind, I just used the term 'trancing' just as a figure of speech

>>48142

Not OP, but I'll bite.

For one, I am not sure if my problems aren't just me over-estimating what being in trance is supposed to be like. Amount of MC porn and stuff like Entrancment UK (to this day I wonder how much if it is real and how much acting) might have warped my ideas in this regard.

The problem I have is that I don't experience the automatic responses that seem to be expected. It is especially evident when stuff dependant on visualisations come up (like many sessions that advertise a chance to experience some fantastic scenario). I have to either at least sort of consciously imagine the described scenario or I don't experience much of anything. It is even worse for feedback from other senses if its employed.

The responses to the commands are little better. I sometimes almost feel like my body is moving on my own, but most of the time it is at least partly a consciouss effort on my part.

In effect my trances boild to me lying down, quite relaxed and not thinking too much (but never completly blank), while feeling a degree of numbness and/or heaviness in my limbs. Sometimes with an amount of tingling in arms and along the spine.

Not unpleasant but far from some of the testimonials.

I've read some advice and I'm aware that I just should relax and go with it for the best effect. I guess it is difficult to suppress the expectation of something more though.

K, I'm not especially great when it comes to getting into a proper hypnotic trance, and experienced little in terms of post-hypnotic effects, but I've definitely felt myself being lost in the moment, forgetting (or really just not caring) where I am physically and mentally experiencing very vivid feelings induced by the hypnotic suggestions.

So maybe I'm not the best and deepest trancer but I can give you some tips that work for me.

1. Trancing isn't sleeping. If you're too tired you won't be able to trance because you will literally fall asleep while listening. You'll probably drift in and out of sleep and by the end you'll only have some vague memories of what happened but this isn't some magical hypnotic amnesia. You just fell asleep. You need to be awake enough to be able to lie down and relax for a while WITHOUT sleeping.

2. Relax your body. This really is easier said than done. If you've listened to a lot of common inductions, you might notice that they'll repeat suggestions to relax and each time you'll realise some part of your body was needlessly tense. What helps me is to run through a kind of rapid checklist whenever I notice I'm not fully relaxed (feet, legs, hands, arms, shoulders, neck, head, face, etc.) A lot of inductions will talk your through relaxing your body one part at a time, but it's really helpful to just make the habit to go ahead and quickly check your entire body is relaxed whenever you can.

As a side note, being relaxed doesn't mean you CAN'T move. If you really need to itch or reposition slightly to be comfortable then just do it and then check you're relaxed again. The only thing I'd recommend against is changing your position completely (like rolling onto your side from your back). For me at least this generally makes it harder to become completely relaxed again. Resist the urge, and focus on relaxing where you are.

>>48160

3. Focus your mind. Again, easier said than done. They say hypnosis is about subconscious suggestions, but I find this to be a bit of an unhelpful idea because you really do need to consciously focus on listening to the file and not getting distracted by other thoughts. This is difficult and, at least at the start, you're going to get distracting thoughts all the time. But don't get frustrated when this happens. It sounds counter-intuitive but the more you notice yourself getting distracted the better at this you'll get, because when you notice you're thinking about something other than the hypnosis you can actively dismiss that thought and refocus. Don't be discouraged, even if you realise your mind has been wandering for ages and you've not been paying attention, just forget what you were thinking about, make sure your body is relaxed and start listening again. Developing this habit is key.

4. Pretend. Chances are, you aren't going to experience trance the first time you try it. Your mind will wander too much and you won't be able to relax properly and you'll get distracted by sounds of traffic, etc. When it comes to hypnotic suggestions then, pretty much everything is going to go through your conscious filter, and you'll be thinking things like "well, I could just *not* do that." or "I want this to work *properly* but I feel like I'm just pretending."

First of all, I want to point out that these thoughts are a perfect example of distracting, unfocused thoughts. They're a telltale sign you aren't in trance because you're busy thinking about the effects of trance rather than solely and ONLY listening to the hypnosis. So, what do we do with them when we realise? Forget them, stop thinking and focus completely on the words of the hypnotist. Do the suggestion anyway.

Yes, every time you think consciously about doing something in hypnosis before doing it you will be "pretending" and it won't be "real," but what you're doing is further developing that unconscious habit of following suggestions without thinking about them. You get into this habit and keep interrupting and suppressing any distractions and eventually you WILL do the suggestion without thinking about it at all.

In fact, if you have any kind of habitual behaviour that you repeat often you might realise that you don't even think about what you're doing while carrying out that behaviour. This is essentially what trance is, except with hypnosis the idea is that you can get really good at simply following ANY instructions without thinking about it. But you can't develop a habit without training, so just "pretend" you can follow instructions without thinking until you really can.

I'll leave it there for now. Trust me when I say there is more to trance than feeling silly about playing along to some pretentious sounding recording. Unfortunately, it does take a bit of practise to really shut out those distracting/wandering thoughts and focus on the words. But the first time you do successfully trance makes it worth the effort, even without complex hypnotic suggestions. Just the feeling of experiencing time passing while awake without being bombarded by thoughts is incredible.

>>48140

I have always had trouble but I've made some progress.

I started to do something that is kind of meditation I guess? So just learning to meditate can help. It's all about quieting your mind.

Anyway, I would lay in my bed and let my body fall asleep while staying conscious with my eyes closed. Just counting up until I lost track and starting over,or repeating something in my head over and over on my breaths. In: mind awake out: body asleep.

you could use any 'mantra' you want, you just want to keep focus of it. You might lose track from time to time but it's ok, if you lose track just start again. The idea is to just clear your mind and put your complete focus on one thing which is part of what you want to do in hypnosis. This might help you stay awake while not feeling completely conscious during hypnosis. If you fall asleep while practicing it's ok, just try again later and you'll get better.

I haven't put much work in but I have noticed it getting easier to get sort of lost in unconscious thought before sort of snapping back to awareness. I assume I'll be able to not snap myself back with practice in letting go.

Maybe others here could try the same and see if there is any success?

It might also be a good idea to keep a dream journal (for regular nights as well) to improve your dream recall. Then maybe if you do drift off you sleep you can play out the fantasy in your dreams.

>>48381

Trance.Exe is exactly what you're looking for.

project is mostly abandoned though, but the only thing that can compete is mind melting machine, and it's still in baby stages

>>48382

I gave it another go on the trance.exe and finally got it working a bit. Pretty sweet program though haven't figured out how to add audio yet. Thanks for the push to give it another go.

Here is a start bad boy or bad mommy you decide r/p8tfkgng

Not OP, But I always seem to shake myself out of trance, like my body physically won't let me, any ideas?