/hypno/ - Hypnochan

>>40137

>>40133

So I ended up trying Because 1 before reading these. I'm not sure what happened tbh. It felt nothing like the time I thought I went under. I felt like I was just sitting there going through the motions. There was a part where I wasin't suppose to be able to move my hand. I felt more like I coulden't because I wanted it to work rather then it actually working I felt really bummed out actuality but then she said the feeling would extend to my whole body before what I assume was a few minutes later bringing me back up for good. The file ended but I legit had a hard time moving at all it took me a few trys. Even now I feel really tired and clumsy. Did I do it or is something else happening? Also thanks for the other suggestions. I'm going to try Adaptive Rollercoaster next and look into 35uccubu5.com for tomorrow.

Oh I found a flowchart while looking for Adaptive Rollercoaster. I'm not sure if that file goes by a diffrent name but it looks like it's not apart of the stuff I got.

>>40168

>A real hypnotist, not a bunch of files.

Yea I tried some files again after my last batch of posts and I had a strange and deeply unpleasant experience. Probably not the files fault but still. I wasn't confident enough to find a real one before but I think once I get a better idea of what I want and I do some self improvement I think I'm going to find one. Anyone here try that? I've looked a bit before but I don't really know how to find reputable ones. It's probably a bad idea but I was thinking I'd look on fet life or something.I know one guy who did that and it worked out. I'd probably prefer dating someone who could do it but I don't think that's an option.

>>40154

The most effective one I tried was bubble induction from WarpMyMind. It's on the top files of all time I think. It only worked once for me but with some practice it might work for you.I wouldn't be afraid of files telling you to do shit if thats an issue for you. If there is something you are not into it will probably bring you out if it. Thats if it will even work. You need to go into it without any doubt and even then it takes a ton of practice. I'm not sure how much though. Most people are pretty vague when they talk about it.

>>40175

The best hypnotist is yourself, both because you implicitly trust yourself and because your voice is the most hypnotic voice there is for you to listen to. It's so effective that it massively lowers the bar in terms of quality, you don't even necessarily need "files", just a mirror. Though of course you can make files to take with you elsewhere.

I'd offer to exchange contact information because I am (in my own anecdotal opinion) pretty good at it, but I've got a feeling you've got a willy and unless cheddar is involved, I'm only interested in the female persuasion.

And in case anyone is wondering "why would someone interested in women who is competent at hypnosis browse /hypno/ which is full of retarded sissy bimbos training their brains not to think?", it's half to laugh at people who think participating in a ritual behavior won't alter their brains, and half as a living warning that it's something to be taken seriously because holy shit some of y'all fuck your brains up hardcore (which again, is hilarious).

>>40179

>Where can I read more about this?

Hard to say offhand, I'll make another post if something comes to me specifically later. I have a natural gift for it as well as a natural interest that showed itself very young (age 10 or so, maybe earlier). One of the first things I recall interesting me in it was Scott Adams mentioning taking a class with a registered hypnotist, which to this day he insists is the best way to learn… I just learned by reading techniques and practicing them in conversations, I never bothered with any formal exercises or finding participants, I just read about a trick and started using it when I saw an opportunity, and it always worked, so I kept doing it. Almost two decades later and here I am, still doing it.

One of the first books I recall finding when I decided to take it a bit more seriously was "Reality is Plastic, the Art of Impromptu Hypnosis". Good book on practical uses in mixed context. As far as hypnotizing yourself goes, read anything on affirmations, it's the same shit. The sissy shit is all just negative affirmations, it easily can be done the other way. Hell, I'll give you an easy post-hypnotic suggestion for you to put into practice going forward from today: I want you to imagine that from now on, whenever you see a piece of trash, you'll think "I enjoy picking up litter", and whenever you pick up litter, you'll think "I'm happy to connect with mother earth by helping clean her up".

>>40179

>>40180

>Any tips at all?

I'd double up on what I said about "read literally anything about affirmations", because seriously that's the easiest hypnosis you can do, just stare yourself in the eyes in the mirror and repeat something you want to be true.

>Have you gone to other people before and still think it's better?

Compared to me, everyone else [who I have interacted with personally] is garbage at hypnosis.

>>[laugh at people who think participating in a ritual behavior] won't alter their brains

>>a living warning that it's something to be taken seriously because holy shit some of y'all fuck your brains up hardcore

>???

Bracketed in the rest of my original sentence.

In case it's news to you, a great deal of personas in the hypnosis community claim that it's all a fetish and none of it's "real". These people are idiots. If you do something regularly, your behavior will change. It's like saying water is wet, which is why I get a laugh out of those people; it's so clearly delusional it's impossible not to laugh.

As far as the living warning is concerned, before I began to take hypnosis seriously, I damaged a few people because I thought it was some cartoon shit. I seclude myself pretty heavily now, my understanding of human behavior is such that I view others as animals/machines and analyze their behavior as though I were watching a zoo exhibit. I watch myself as another zoo exhibit too, of course, I'm just the monkey that's obsessed with its reflection in the glass enclosure.

As you can tell, I'm a pretty high IQ (300) Rick and Morty watcher, so you can trust me when I tell you that hypnosis is bullshit and everything I've typed here is a LARP.

>>40182

Your suggestibility and ability to fall into a trance are hereditary/genetic/locked-from-birth as far as I can tell. Fact is, everyone can be hypnotized (and most people are), they just don't recognize it for what it is. If you've ever answered somebody's question with an advertising slogan, you've demonstrated that you can successfully be hypnotized.

Another indication you've been hypnotized before is if you continue a conversation or hear someone else's voice after you're done talking to them.

Hypnosis is everywhere, particularly in marketing for obvious reasons.

As far as knowing the tricks is concerned, yes and no. "In the field", so to speak? Good fucking luck, the best bet is to keep your head down, eyes wide and learn to do that martial arts "focus on nothing and everything" thing so that you're aware of all incoming information and can tune it out while being prepared if something comes flying your way. Listening to a hypnotist? It's possible to invert all suggestions, which is what a lot of people do on a conscious or unconscious level with the sissy shit – They actually are attracted to the power exchange of the fantasy and prefer the idea of being the one in control, so they dissociate from their body and imagine that someone *else* is the one being dominated and controlled. That'd be worthy of a whole thread of its own on the fun fucked up shit that behavior can lead to, but it will have its day when it's time.

More directly, at the undercurrent of your post:

>I wounder If knowing the tricks would kinda pull me out of it.

Decide if you want to have your cake or eat it:

Do you want hypnosis for a positive purpose? Then meet someone who you genuinely trust not to take you somewhere strange. By which I mean train yourself, trust no one. Begin by picking up literally any book on affirmations because they'll all tell you the same shit and starting the behavior is the most important thing; the typical stat they give is "twenty-one days for a new habit to settle in" (that's an average, could be ten days, could be fifty, but it's personal to you and irrelevant of the behavior, so judge by habits you've formed/broken in the past). By the time you've made a habit of affirmations, you'll have probably read another book or couple of articles or whatever on them. It's not rocket science, it's just stating things you want to be true as though they're already true. Look in the mirror, stare yourself in the eyes and say "I am confident.". Do that whenever you happen to be in the bathroom looking at a mirror, if it's a public restroom say it in your head ("I am confident"). Boom, don't bother with the books or articles because I just taught you everything they would.

Or would you rather eat the cake? Well then you can't have it, but here's what you do:

Go down the sissy rabbit hole, end up a slave, and from there everything is your new Master's decision. Hopefully you hit the jackpot, which if it were up to me would be easy, but from talking to close to a thousand submissives in my life so far, it seems like I'm the only dom with standards in the world (or at least that any of those ~1,000 submissives met, they were all amazed at things I consider due diligence, which horrified me).

Submissives are a dime a dozen, doms are rare, which means most doms have no standards for themselves whatsoever. This can range from being ignorant to incompetent to downright dangerous or abusive. The number of doms who don't test on themselves is terrifying, they have no clue what amount of pain they're inflicting. I've spoken to several people who have developed straight-up PTSD because of the abuse doms have put them through.

Obviously I tend towards the "develop standards for yourself rather than hope to find someone on this Earth with standards of their own" approach.

>>40184

On the off chance that the poster I was speaking to, or anyone else, is interested in positive affirmations but doesn't know where to begin, the best affirmations are ones that have the potential to "snowball".

Affirmations will be rotated in and out as necessary, when you realize you're feeling confident, you can drop "I am confident" and replace it with something else, say "I make healthy decisions". If a few weeks later you feel like you could use a confidence boost again, reintroduce "I am confident" to your rhythm, that simple!

"But how is confidence going to help me if I don't have any goals I'm working towards?", I hear you asking. Good question, and I'm going to answer it, but not in the way you might be suspecting.

You don't start out with confidence. Fuck confidence! What the fuck have you got to be feeling confident over anyway? You're on a board for sissy feminization hypnosis desperately reading some dude's posts about affirmations hoping he can throw a rope down this hole you've found yourself digging for what feels like way too long. Confidence is the last thing you need, if you're confident you might actually start going to glory holes and sucking cocks or something.

No, what you need is a snowball, specifically a snowflake that rolls itself, so here are some examples of snowballing affirmations:

>"I am always improving myself."

>"I view my failings as areas of potential growth."

>"I am open to opportunities to change."

>"I am the main character of my own life."

>"I am the one who changes me."

This is a special one:

>"Today I'm…"

This one can be a double-edged sword based on your self-control. It works based on the concept that humans… Pretty much suck at perception of time. "tomorrow" never comes, and "yesterday" is always yesterday. "Thursday" pretty much is meaningless. But "today", well… Today is today.

Basically the idea is that you only resolve to do something TODAY. So if your resolution were, say, to stop jacking off like a monkey fed a diet of viagra and crack, you might say:

>"Today, I'll only jerk off once, before I go to bed."

See, this way you completely ignore the twenty times you jacked off yesterday, and the fifteen you fear you'll jack off tomorrow. Instead, you have one, simple goal: Delay your gratification for *one day*, find some other shit to do to keep you occupied until then, then give yourself the cookie for the end of the day and sleep to hit the reset button before you can give it anymore thought.

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This ties into another trick, closely related to affirmations though separate: STOP BEATING YOURSELF UP FOR FAILING. Again going back to the example of chronic masturbation: Forget the nofap meme, forget all the memes, and think about yourself and your actual problem. You feel bad about losing a battle with a compulsion. Instead, focus on winning small victories: Okay, so you have a bad habit of smoking pot and then jacking off upside down onto your face for four hours every day unless you're forced out of the house. Well, how about you try setting the pot down by your keyboard and spending ten minutes (just ten minutes!) looking for some "wholesome" porn. Y'know, stuff like you jerked off to when you were still a wee laddy exploring the internet freaking out over titties.

THEN you jerk off onto your face like a whacked-out bonobo. And afterward, you know what you do? You congratulate yourself, because you did what you set out to do. You waited ten minutes before indulging in your bad habit, you proved you have discipline, even if it's small. And then you work on stretching that muscle, once a day. You don't go from bedridden to running marathons in a day, and discipline *is* a muscle; create small exercises that teach discipline, and keep them small until you feel comfortable going further. Set the can of soda in front of you, and then look at the clock and set a time, and then occupy yourself with something, anything, until that time you set aside, and then feel good for achieving the reward. This is conditioned behavior, and this is how you rebuild your life the same way [society/culture/whatever] destroyed it.

>>40185

>k I can try that I already had to do some reading.

>Okay never mind then.

I mean it was half-joking. It's true that's what most of them will tell you, but it's still worth reading a couple of people's perspectives to get different views on them. I gave the bare minimum, the "so that you can start doing this right now, right this minute, there is literally nothing stopping you" version. Other sources go more into detail on how they work and why and tips for making more successful wordings of affirmations, but the tricks for "snowballing" I shared in >>40186 are enough to essentially cover that. TL;DR: Reading other stuff wouldn't hurt but basically I gave you the need-to-knows.

>Are you using the sissy stuff as an example or do you think thats what I'm looking for cus it's not.

I'm using it as an example because from what I've seen and who I've spoken to, it seems to be a common source of shame and confusion for a great deal of people. I don't know what you're interested in, honestly the idea of anyone having an interest in being hypnotized is completely alien to me, I dedicate a great deal of effort to cultivating my mind against outside influences. I can barely imagine the mindset it takes to want a random person to rewire your brain.

>If you don't mind expanding on what you have encountered and hear about from subs.

Probably will have to wait until another day because I stayed up far later than I intended writing the other posts (hopefully they helped a few anons in some capacity or another), and the brainfog is rolling in. As I mentioned, I've heavily reclused myself over the last few years, most/all of those subs were at least a couple of years past. The same general story though, boy meets girl, or boy meets boy, or girl meets girl, boy/girl are into BDSM, shenanigans happen. Some of the terrifying things I've heard of:

>not "believing in" safewords

>tying ropes so tight extremities turn purple

>unsolicited abuse/humiliation/namecalling outside of scenes (without any agreement or anything ahead of time)

>weird shit in front of family/friends

>unlubed/unprepared anal (SERIOUSLY)

>closed fist punches, even to the face

Also, just as an anecdotal thing and I entirely have nothing resembling a statistical basis to back this up, in my experience lesbians who somehow get a round at a straight guy's gf are universally horribly malicious bitches about it and try their very best to hurt the man. If you take anything from the wisdom of my years of experience, let it be this: Never share your girl with a lesbian, she'll fuck with both of your heads because she's jealous that a man got a girl she wanted.

>standards/due diligence

Basically? If I wouldn't do it, I won't make them do it (unless they _really_ want it). One common thing that springs to mind is licking boots clean, common fetish bait, but I know the chemicals that go into my leather to condition it and so I would never want anyone's tongue that shit.

More obvious examples include striking implements: Test out that flog, or belt, or hand, get a sense for how it feels on the soft side of your arm or on your own ass. Otherwise, you have no sense of perspective for how much pain "10/50/100 swats" actually *is*, and how dare you force it on someone.

Safewords are important, I have the two easiest to remember in the world ("red" and "yellow", guess what they mean) and I still give any submissive of mine a pop quiz every now and then to make sure they remember them both.

Wax is an obvious one, test dripping on yourself before you test it, basically with anything like this it's the same rule as a baby bottle or bathwater: Test the soft spot on the wrist, if it's too hot for you then it's too hot for them.

Bondage: Put a two-column tie around your ankles, feel the rope, see how tight it is, strain against it like you're trying to escape or having a body-shattering orgasm and see how it feels – Is it restrictive, is it going to chafe after 30 minutes, or is it snug without being overly constricting? You can have really tight bondage, but both of you should know what you're going to do and you need to understand that tighter bonds = shorter scenes. Same goes for rougher rope, yeah, there are crazy motherfuckers out there that make shibari harnesses out of coconut rope, but that's not the one you slip some clothes over and go out to dinner wearing, use some cotton for that at least!

I mean, no matter what, it's the same song, different dance. Just show some common courtesy and think about how you'd feel if you were submitting to yourself, try things out from the submissive's perspective, and then use your knowledge combined with what they tell you they're interested in to craft a scene both of you can enjoy.

Oh, and every sub gets one warning about topping from the bottom, after that, there is no strike two. Fuck that shit.

>>40187

>I almost just said "probably try" which means I wouldnt have fucking done it even though I intend to, stopping myself and saying "will try" is already an affirmation if I understand this right

"Will try" is better than "probably try", but I'm going to quote a great tiny green man here:

>"Do or do not, there is no try."

I'll then add onto it a bit with my own twist:

>"Do it now, or do it never, there is no 'tomorrow'."

Saying you "will" do it has no reference to time. It may very well be true that you "will" do it, but when will you? Tomorrow? When you're 80? It could be any point in the future.

Saying you'll "do it tomorrow" is the same trap. If your affirmation is "tomorrow I'll start doing affirmations", then guess what your affirmation will be tomorrow? You guessed it! "Tomorrow I'll start doing affirmations". This is the trap a lot of people get themselves in. "Tomorrow I'll stop smoking", "tomorrow I'll vacuum", "tomorrow I'll sit down and make that phone call". It's always tomorrow, never today, so it never happens.

I know, it sounds overwhelming, so this is what you have to do, right now, decide:

"Is this important enough to me to act on NOW, or is it a problem I want to deal with in the future?"

And a phrasing along those lines is important: Understand that those are the options, you have to deal with it at some point, is there a way to deal with it (or start dealing with it) that you can begin immediately, or is it something you'll be able to deal with easier at a later point in time? Either way, it's you dealing with it. It's just which you, when you.

A thought that tickled me and I have an inkling you might like. Here's a classic affirmation for you to start out with, and it's easy to remember. Try this one for a few days and see how it fits, and feel free to use it whenever, repeat it in your head as much as necessary:

"I think I can."

>>40187

>reading your posts I would say I have almost no discipline

I glossed over it, but this is actually the most important part of your post.

You've acknowledged it, and that means that you're aware of it. Which means now you're in a position to do something about it.

The important thing is to remember what I said about "bedridden to a marathon". It doesn't happen. You have an atrophied muscle, so you need physical therapy (or rather, psychological therapy, given the nature of the muscle in question). EMBRACE YOUR WEAKNESS. ACCEPT IT.

If it helps you feel better to beat yourself up about it a little, feel free to call yourself a little bitch for it, for some people, cussing themselves out is motivating.

The point is, start small. Maybe ten minutes or fifteen minutes without your vice is too long. Maybe five minutes is too long! That's okay! I mean, it's not okay, but it's better for you to accept that it is what it is than to lie to yourself and overexert yourself and end up failing and feeling worse for it.

Two minutes. Count to twelve, lift a finger, count to twelve, lift a finger, until all of your fingers are lifted. Two minutes, anybody can do. Whatever your vice is, whatever strains your self-control… Make yourself wait TWO MINUTES before you engage in it. And if you've got to swear at yourself to make it through it, do it. If you've got to cuss out the president, the queen of england and the man in the moon, do it. If you've gotta imagine Jackie Chan staring at you 5t3rnly, do it! Whatever the fuck it takes, man!

>>40191

>fucking go to bed anon dont you have any discipline :^)

Haha, you jest, but I must admit my darkest secret: I am still human underneath it all.

In my defense I need like half the sleep of most people. Autohypnosis basically turns you into a vampire LOL.

>>40198

I said I've spoken to around a thousand submissives, those items don't all belong to one person but are different things that stand out in my memory. A new one that popped up was the FtM who smashed a glass into his girlfriend's face and tried to drown himself, though.

Basically it's the same as with submissives. Turns out the BDSM subculture is full of freaks and some of them are a bit unhinged. IME the ones who aren't totally crazy (all humans are insane by nature) are the switches. I'm >98% dom, but will still switch under the right circumstances; even my current "absolutely totally submissive" bitch wants to tie me down and tease me for an hour or two. My conjecture is that it comes down to being able to get into the mindset of the other; pure subs tend to be crazy and think of doms as pleasure-giving machines who don't need aftercare and never run dry. I remember a recent submissive who got so addicted to my voice that she'd constantly be begging me to record things for her to listen to… Now, I'm not a professional 'tist, at the time I was pulling 60 hour weeks as a glazier, which if you have any understanding of you'll know to be tiring work. Her constant asking drove me up the wall, because she knew perfectly well what I was spending my hours doing. That didn't last as long as it might have.

Though to be honest, reflecting on it, there is a grain of truth to it. I was just filling this out last night, blanked a few lines out that were a touch personal. Let me assure you – It would not have looked the same 5 years ago, and especially not ten.

See, the thing about being a dom, unless you end up ultra-monogamous and marry the first sub you find, is you end up collecting fetishes. A sub really, really, really wants you to fulfill this or that fantasy for her, so you find a way to twist it so you can be into it enough to provide the scene, and then it grows on you and you like it. Piss is a strong example for me, for the longest time I thought it was gross, until I had a sub that was constantly begging for it. Now it's pretty much ordinary for me to finish as shower off by having my sub get on her knees for me to piss on her face. I drink plenty of water, and it's really not about the fluid, it's about the humiliation. That same "last sub" that was overly addicted to me was actually disappointed whenever I used the toilet instead of her body. That was hot af, even if the urine itself was just a means to an end.

More mundanely, name-calling went from a "yeah, it's pretty fun" to a full blown "OH MY GOD HOTTEST THING EVER" after a rapeplay scenario with my first girlfriend where I kept calling her dirtier and dirtier things, and when I started getting to the most demeaning stuff, her cunt clamped so tight around my dick I could barely move. I may never get that reaction again, but god I love to use those words still.

That said, as has been mentioned, I'm not a typical case. I rarely, if ever, push anything (though there are some things that basically amount to "either you learn to love them quick or you don't have a chance with me", glhf if you're not willing to call me Master/Sir for example, but that's no different than someone not being willing to date a smoker). My tongue drips hypnotic fluid though, so I don't have to "push", it's all just a matter of time, and eventually one of my stories makes it sound good enough that a sub says "you know what, maybe that would be fun to try at least one time…".

>>40202

I'm attracted primarily to power as an aphrodisiac. Cunts feel best out of any hole, but people are putty and it's fun to play with them.

Again, there are very good reasons I've withdrawn from larger society. If I stuck around in the normal world long enough, I might go on a power trip I'd regret.

>>40207

Same-sex couples have terrible success rates so bisexuality helps you out less than you might think. You can look up the stats on them or eventually they'll get posted on /pol/ or whatever for the thousandth time, but essentially spousal and child abuse rates are exponentially higher in same-sex couples.

There are gays that manage to be the exceptions to the rule, but the fact is most gays were [sexually and physically] abused as children and are perpetuating a centuries-old cycle. The STD rate is also ridiculously higher in the male homosexual community because around 1/3rd of them have had over 1000 sexual partners (literally) and that's before you get into the whole "bug chaser" subculture.

As far as impossible or not, maybe? Better odds for a sub female than sub male, but as I said there are exceptions to every rule.

I'd say the best approach is the same as the one I feel is best for any important relationship: Turn the implied agreement into an actual contract. Either as a "slave contract" or a "relationship contract" or a "marriage contract", sit down and have an adult conversation about what things you enjoy, what things you expect, what things you are willing to do for the other even though you dislike them, what things you need to compromise on and what things have to be exempt.

Myself, any such contracts, even at a verbal level, make it quite clear that I'm polygynous. I think that multiple partners alters the biology of women in a different way than men, so while it can in fact be very beneficial on multiple levels for a man to have multiple wives/girlfriends, a woman dating around is a disaster waiting to happen. You're probably best off waiting for the current generation of women to set a bad enough example that the pendulum finishes its shift in momentum, then when you're 40, date a woman half your age. Spend all that extra time and energy in the meantime increasing your self-worth and value so that a woman who is twenty will date you when that time comes.

The biggest lie the West ever bought was that everyone deserves to breed. Fuck no. High value males and females breed, low-value females become spinsters, low-value males find a way to become high-value or they fuck off and die. It is entirely possible to increase your value as a male.

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>>40260

Since the thread is derailed at this point I might as well say that this alpha beta stuff is the gayest shit I have ever seen. The only people I've ever seen talk about it are jews and self proclaimed alpha males (i.e beta males). If this guy had two kids then no one is stuck being "low-value"

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Ah shit I forgot to post a wallpaper.

>>40337

y'all cringey

>>40384

The bottom 10% of femininity.

One last bump before I let this thread slide. Any info that could help people would be great.

Oh I think I should add. I was listening to one of the N1kk1 files. I think it was Adaptive Unconscious. I feel like a feel asleep but when I was explaining this in a bit more detail to other people about it they said it sounded like it could have been a trance.

>>40776

>Anyways, the question is, does hypno only work is I'm relaxed?

I'm not sure it even works at all at this point but If it did I don't think it would work if you are focused on other things. If I'm wrong though feel free to correct me.

>I'd imagine no, but I don't know if there are specialized files for that.

I don't remember what is was called but there was some type of files someone mentioned here that is basically one word or a short phrase over and over again. I think you where suppose to listen to them all the time. I remember looking though and not finding any of those files though. The thread where it was mentioned might still be up. If I remember correctly it was in first mentioned in the op or early in the thread.

>>40868

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I'm back again. Tell your friends.

>>40776

That's a shame about what you said. I can sympathize – I used to be much more heavily switch before I experienced "domination" at another's hands. Now I only really trust myself.

>I've been trying hypno to try and make me more okay with sex

FWIW I would suspect this would have a very low success rate if the files are anything less than ones you recorded yourself. To me, it resonates as a palliative treatment.

>does hypno only work is I'm relaxed? Is there any point to listening to it while doing things, such as errands, cleaning, walking around, ect?

First question: Yes and no. I'll elaborate in a bit.

Second question: Of course.

Elaboration: The system behind hypnosis can be boiled thusly: Distract the conscious mind so that the unconscious can be spoken to directly. The mechanism that forces this function is simple: The conscious mind can make distinctions, that's what it's _for_ (Dawna Markova would in fact call this the "subconscious" mind, but in practice most people use the words "subconscious" and "unconscious" interchangeably, and as such I will do so here).

Now, what most on this board will be familiar with for this practice is the "induction" process for establishing a trance (or beta/theta wave) state. "Count back from fifteen, imagine going down a spiral staircase in a tree, the door opens and you're on the beach with someone you trust, with each breath you feel more relaxed than you ever thought possible", etc. This level of formalized induction is 98% showmanship and mostly exists for skeptics who think trance/hypnosis must be difficult or complicated. In this thing we call "reality", however, everyone casually enters trances many times a day, the most familiar for us is probably driving a car along a familiar route. You get in the car, quickly enter trance, and before you know it, you're stepping out of the car at work and barely remember if there was traffic on the way there.

In other words, anything that occupies your conscious mind constantly. That is, simple, repetitive work; dishes, mowing the lawn, weeding the garden, sweeping/dusting/vacuuming the house or alphabetizing shelves are all great trance-states to use and abuse; for car repairs or cooking an unfamiliar meal I would probably opt for some smooth jazz or swing music and skip out on the hypnosis.

I would advise a slightly different tactic here though: Where instead (presumably) you're listening to hypnosis files someone else made, I would substitute with mantras per my previous posts in the thread on affirmations. Mantras _are_ autohypnosis. I would finally recommend looking at the root cause behind your insecurities… You're not broken, it's not unusual, you put trust in someone who you gave power over yourself and that trust was violated, so you rightfully are conditioned to avoid circumstances that put you in a position of vulnerability. I'd expect this has also had an effect on your non-sexual life too, even if it's a subtle one that's difficult to place or describe exactly. Autohypnosis can still help with this, though my wholehearted suggestion would be to practice varying many of your rhythms, particularly with a focus on rediscovering habits you had before the trauma happened and supplanting habits formed after the trauma occurred. Take your mind to the "pre-trauma" places and build out from there, rather than trying to bridge over from post-trauma. Hopefully that makes sense.

PDF attached for your help, written by some random schmuck but quite to the point as a result. Information is accurate to the best of my knowledge.

>>41037

>>41036

A thunderstorm isn't just a thunderstorm, a thunderstorm is all that is entailed by a thunderstorm. Rain after heat, temperature changes, routine changes, cloud cover, electrically charged air, pressure to take shelter, relief at having shelter, etc. These are encoded in your genetics from thousands of years of evolutionary pressure.

>>41088

Nice dubs.

The "subliminal" factor comes in at the layer below conscious recognition. The best I can get at is to say "the average person is much less aware of themselves and their surroundings than you might think", and without knowing where you fall on that scale it's difficult for me to create an example.

The most widespread I can think of that may serve as common ground: Think of a power outage and how silent your house is, then imagine the moment when the power kicks back on and the first thing you hear is the refrigerator roaring back to life. Now listen out for the noise of the fridge right this moment… And it's much harder to pick out, isn't it?

That's the subliminal aspect. Something that's so omnipresent that it is ignored.

Another example that comes readily to mind is the empty space in a room. It's not actually empty, it's full of air. Imagine inverting the space in a room, so that the air is filled and the objects are empty, the shape of that airspace is the "feel" of a room, and why a poorly arranged room can make one feel agitated while an open and flowing room makes one feel at peace. The air has a presence, even if we rarely acknowledge it.

>>41102

Placebo effect is more readily put to work than you appear to believe. Just another tool in the toolbox.

But I'm not trying to convince you.

>>41104

It's more work than you're going to be interested in hearing, but I'm giving you the true-true: Playlists of music by genre/mood. Only you can do this for yourself, because different people have different associations for music. For some people, any rap sets their hair on edge. For others, they only hear the beat. Myself, when my mind is very active, the best solution is to engage it in someone else's words while I work on something mindless, and so I have a playlist of 351 songs with heavy word-variety so that my conscious mind is constantly engaged with the music when it's on. I also have jazz and piano playlists for the afternoon and early mornings, to set the tempo for my day. Electronic music tends towards my writing, orchestral music for general physical activities, metal for when I need to rapidly decompress emotionally.

Most of my playlists has around 20 hours worth of music on them, so that I can easily put them on "shuffle" and game that dopamine hit from the perfect song coming on at the perfect moment. When they play in the same order, there's a sense of expectation that develops and the reward mechanisms trigger less often, shuffle-play basically turns your music player into a slot machine that only pays out without putting more money in.

You have to experiment around a bit to figure out what kinds of music accomplish what for you, or rather what effect(s) the current music you listen to has on your mindstate. Two faces of the same problem there, all I can say is not to be discouraged, it's a lengthy but worthy challenge to approach. Music is a very powerful drug that is used and abused quite casually in our society, so even beginning to monitor your use of it puts you ahead of the curve. The best exercise that comes to mind right away is to take a piece of paper and quickly jot down a few broad categories (no more than four) and some songs/artists/albums that fit each category. Ten songs across four categories gives you nearly an hour of music for each mood, which is a pretty good starting point to branch out from. Here are some suggested categories:

- Genre (Ex. Folk, Pop, Rap, Piano)

- Task (Ex. Work, Study, Chores, Jogging)

- Mood (Ex. Laid back, Intense, Focused, Reflective)

Oh, and most importantly FUCK ANYONE ELSE'S OPINIONS ON YOUR MUSIC TASTE. Show a little bit of backbone, if your music isn't bothering anyone (blaring it across the dorm, for example), then fuck anyone who has something to say about your music taste. They're probably insecure about their own. Fuck "guilty pleasures", if it brings you pleasure, eliminate the guilt. Pick *your* playlist, not the playlist of your peers.

>>41114

>beta/theta wave

I remember getting a few brain scans (different types not just the same one twice) a month ago. The doctor had mentioned something about that. He said my brain was just as active when I closed my eyes as it was when they where open. I think He was saying One of those types of waves "slowed things down" and that I didin't have them when I should. I think. Could this be why I have so many issues with this stuff? How could I work around it?

>>41115

Two questions then. Am I misinterpreting subliminals are they not literally suggestions you can't hear? If they are how do they work I still don't understand how they would work if you can't hear them. Also with the music thing, I am willing to put the work in but how can I make that help me with hypno stuff? I'm not sure I understand.

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>>41139

Sorry for replying to this a bit late, I see the slide I was anticipating is in full effect LOL.

In answer to your first part (regarding the brain scans) unfortunately I can't say too much because that's not actually much information to go off of. I'd be more prone to say you probably just have a tendency to overthink things and like most people you don't notice when you're in a trance because nobody does. Something you might find of interest however is this article that was making the rounds some time ago: https://www.maps.org/news-letters/v11n1/11125hof.html

To your second part, it's hard to say exactly, because people love to use the same words to mean wildly different things. To some, "subliminals" probably refers to what you described, and I think that fits with the definition of the word and answers your following sentence

>are they not literally suggestions you can't hear? If they are how do they work I still don't understand how they would work if you can't hear them.

"sub" means "below", obviously, and "liminal" means "threshold". So "below the threshold of consciousness". Think back to my story of the refrigerator noise going unnoticed until the power cuts out, or maybe to a time when you only noticed your laptop fans because they stopped running, rather than noticing them while they were active. If they were speaking instead of simply making machine noises, that'd be the "subliminal" factor. It's a noise your mind is aware of on some level, but nothing happened to raise the "this is important enough to pay attention to" flag so it's just cruising in the background somewhere.

I mean, I'm sure you could get some effect from them, but I'd put it in the category of "tryhard shit" personally. The subliminals as I was describing them (in effect "biohacking" is what I was actually describing) would probably be more likely to activate real change on a short timescale, but it's an entirely different process.

>Also with the music thing, I am willing to put the work in but how can I make that help me with hypno stuff? I'm not sure I understand.

Basically what I'm saying is that you're hypnotizing yourself to varying degrees at all hours of the day, I'm just advocating for policing your own thoughts better. Most of us have some recursive thoughts that tend to bounce around inside our skulls until they're dealt with, and when these thoughts are negative, that's when they turn into disorders like anxiety or depression.

It might be easier for you to understand if you think about it this way: If you can think of porn as a "drug" and hypnosis as a "drug" and music as a "drug", they all go into the same general category or type of "drug", a kind you stick in your eye-and-ear-holes. Sort of like how shrooms and pot and DMT are all in the same general category of psychoactive drugs, we'll call porn-hypno-music the "audiovisual drug class". Now, much like how DMT and shrooms are much more intense than pot (most people never experience hallucinations with weed, so they don't even think of marijuana as a psychoactive substance), porn and (erotic)hypnosis are more intense "high"s than music. But it *still is a high*. So following this analogy it's kind of like if you came into a thread on self-medicating with drugs and you said "well, shrooms haven't quite been getting the results I've been looking for" and I suggested "try meditating with pot once a week instead of shrooms, you'll have more control over where your mind goes". That's essentially what I'm suggesting here… The dosage is more frequent (I presume; personally I listen to music most of the day), but the potency is lower, and it's much easier to change tracks (literally, starting a different playlist/queue) than with hypnosis.

TL;DR To combine all of the above into one summary, basically what I'm trying to say is that all music qualifies as "subliminal messaging" because the music as a collection of sounds is bypassing your conscious mind and speaking to your subconscious mind, meaning that when you're listening to music while you're working on something else, you're in a "trance" listening to "subliminals" and as a result you can obtain your goals more straightforwardly by simply altering your intake of music and being observant of how different songs make you feel while/after listening to them.

>>41353

Thanks for the info. I really want to make this work. So much so that I am now looking to drop 100lbs and I'm saving money to go find a irl dommie. At first I was just kinda curious, then I was into the idea of it, now I'm just looking for a few satisfying experiences just so I can make a guide or something.

>Think back to my story of the refrigerator noise going unnoticed until the power cuts out

I had to read this part of the post a few times but I think I understand now.

> I'd be more prone to say you probably just have a tendency to overthink things and like most people you don't notice when you're in a trance because nobody does.

Wouldn't you know after the fact, at least some of the time?

>>41415

Most people can recognize the experience, but deny it being a trance. They rationalize it as something else.

>>41422

Let me try putting it this way, since your focus is on subliminals and things you can listen to during the ordinary portions of the day:

If you pay attention to which thoughts travel across the surface of your conscious mind, you'll know what suggestions are taking hold. Once you know what the suggestion is and have acknowledged it consciously, the power to transmute it is in your hands.

Now, unless at some point two anons changed places without me noticing, the root of your interest in hypnosis was repairing some trauma from your sexual history, yes? Well, if your trauma is anything like mine or the trauma of others I've known, one of its major symptoms takes the form of reliving the trauma in various forms (I previously referred to this as "recursive" thoughts). In essence, your mind becomes your personal hell and you constantly are stuck in the same place in time, imagining different things you might have done. Sometimes things go exactly as they did in real life, other times they're worse, other times it's already happened but you're screaming at your tormentor the way you never got a chance to actually do… But no matter what form it takes, this thought process only continues to agitate the wound and prevent it from healing. And be quite sure, this stress is more than just mental, it is physical as well. I kept putting off confronting my own inner demons until the day I woke up with my shoulder covered in *hives* from stress thinking about my family. It's generally an extreme symptom for something like that to happen, but it's entirely possible (more common would be something like acne, though chronic stress can show itself as "eczema" too).

In a way, this makes the entire exercise much simpler for you: Whatever changes you make, whatever you're listening to, whatever environments you put yourself in, these recursive thoughts are your metric for success. Frequency goes up = Negative changes recently, frequency decreases = positive changes. Keep in mind it might take over a week for influences to your unconscious mind to bubble up to conscious awareness.

I would also highly suggest keeping a dream journal within reaching distance of your pillow, so you can note down your dreams as soon as you wake up. Dreams are a window into the unconscious mind, once your brain gets on the same page that you're actually paying attention to that shit, it tends to start tripping over itself in its eagerness to explain itself to you.

>>41486

The "false memory foundation" iirc was founded by an acknowledged pedophile and two parents who were accused of molesting their daughter.

This is all half-formed memory from some reading I did over a year ago, I believe it's somewhere in my notes but can't be fucked to read through them in detail. As I recall it was this woman's parents: http://dynamic.uoregon.edu/jjf/defineBT.html

FWIW from some dude on the internet: False memories are less common than rapists/molesters would like their victims to believe, if no one can provide the proper sources to save my lazy ass, I'll dig through my notes more thoroughly at a more appropriate time.

Unrelatedly, your post resonates surprisingly strongly with the (hilarious) posts on /fringe/ accusing anyone semi-competent of "schizophrenia". For what it's worth.