No.12380
Current build
0.972c
mega.nz/#F!MIdCVJRT!TgrEklivnRYEBKncwlkmDA!tMFBBKoa
>When's the next update?
Never
No.12403
>>12380
>Rouge-kike
Really? I mean really?
No.12404
>>12403
The k and l button are right next to each other on a keyboard.
No.12407
>>12404
>>12403
On the other hand, the use of Rouge instead of Rogue makes me think bad spelling is afoot. Not that it matters, much appreciation for bringing this up mate.
No.12412
>>12380
>Pic related
This is Kikewheels Edition?
No.12448
>>12407
Apparently it had something to do with getting slapped for using her actual name, but don't quote me on that, I only saw a shitter post it on one of the other threads. I haven't noticed any spelling errors, but then I don't always read everything.
No.12465
Alright. Little update for this thread:
Rogue-Like: Evolution
by Oni
>www.patreon.com/OniArtist
Does anyone know about other sources where Oni is posting (blog, forum)? Maybe we should name them.
Most recent version: Rogue-like 0.972c modded >>12380 (Mega link)
Version 0.972 Changelog
>v0.972c
* Characters throwing clothes back on constantly when not in the same room as you.
* Characters being “messy” before taking a shower, somehow Matrix-dodging water because they’re still messy after.
* “Int is not iterable” crash error, which was mainly related to when a girl was wearing a towel.
* Maybe some others.
Known Bugs:
* Kitty’s wet hair can look bad during BJ scene, body portion used is not intended one. Gets fixed when art is available.
>v0.972b
* Infinite Loops when exiting Rogue's Doggystyle pose (or any other infinite loops).
* Kitty or Rogue throwing their clothes on when it wouldn't make sense.
* "CZ1" variable errors.
* Characters moving to unusual locations with you (i.e. Xavier following you around).
>v0.972a
* The “CZ1” blue screen error.
* Characters having sex appearing behind standing characters (poor perspective).
* Kitty always changing into her normal clothes in the shower
* Kitty talking during scenes in the shower where she isn’t actually there.
* Some issues with backgrounds not updating properly during scene transitions
* Maybe other stuff, I think everything reported as bug in the previous thread should be working now.
>v0.972
* Piercing visuals are now available for Kitty.
* Blowjob and Handjob scenes for Kitty. Keep in mind that fondling, titjob, sex scenes are still not added yet for her.
* Shower scene should have more options, such as when you try to shower with one or both of the girls in the room.
Old News:
Emma Frost confirmed to be third npc on Patreon:
>Emma will indeed be the third girl in the game, playing more of a teacher role, and I think she'll be a lot of fun to work with. I haven't done any of her key art yet, and won't start that until Kitty is mostly finished, but I've been brainstorming this one for many months by now. […]
No.12470
Rogue-Like Console Variables:
>Player Stats
Playername = “Zero”
P_Male = 1
R_Petname = “sugar” # What Rogue calls the player
R_Petnames = [“sugar”]
R_Pet = “Rogue” # What player calls Rogue
R_Pets = [“Rogue”]
K_Petname = “sweetie” # What Rogue calls the player
K_Petnames = [“sweetie”]
K_Pet = “Kitty” # What player calls Rogue
K_Pets = [“Kitty”]
P_Semen = 2
P_Semen_Max = 3
P_Focus = 0
P_FocusX = 0
P_XP = 0
P_StatPoints = 0
P_XPgoal = 100
P_Lvl = 1
P_Traits = [ ]
P_RecentActions = [ ]
P_DailyActions = [ ]
>Player Inventory Variables
P_Income = 12 # How much money player makes each day
P_Cash = 20 # Modify the Cash
>Rogue Stats [R] / Kitty Stats [K] (for Kitty Stats change 'R' for 'K')
R_Love = 500 # Remenber lowest=0, full=1000
R_Inbt = 0 # Remenber lowest=0, full=1000
R_Obed = 0 # Remenber lowest=0, full=1000
R_Lust = 10 # Remenber lowest=0, full=1000
R_LikeKitty = 600
R_Addict = 0 # How addicted she is
R_Addictionrate = 0 # How fast her addiciton rises
R_AddictStore = 0 # Stores her base addiction level
R_Resistance = 0 # How fast her rate falls
R_OCount = 0 # Orgasm counter
R_Loose = 0
R_XP = 0
R_Cheated = 0 # Number of times player cheated on Rogue
R_Break = [0,0] # Minimum time between / total number of break-ups
R_StatPoints = 0
R_XPgoal = 100
R_Lvl = 0
R_Rep = 80
R_Shame = 0 # Shame amount Rogue generates with current clothing/action
R_Taboo = 0 # Taboo level of the location Rogue is at when not with player
>Sexual Encounters
R_Action = 3
R_MaxAction = 3
R_Caught = 0
R_Kissed = 0 # How many times Rogue and player have kissed
No.12472
>>12407
>>12448
Inside joke.
>>3
>>10100
No.12473
>>12465
Addendum
HF Profile:
>www.hentai-foundry.com/user/Oni/profile
Forum Thread:
>www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=27106
No.12781
No.12799
>>12781
>www.patreon.com/OniArtist
Latest news from dev 'Update 3/24/17' - not a patron though.
No.12817
>>12781
been a month and 10 days since last update dipstick, good math you did there.
No.12824
>>12817
>Subject
Bugfixes are not updates.
No.12871
>>12824
Yes they are. 4 months without new content is a legitimate criticism, you don't need to pretend words mean different things just to express that
No.12872
He does other things than just this game. 4 months ago he added Kitty and a month ago he fixed issues and added nudity so stop bitching. He updates on his patreon every month. Weather it be an update for the game or his other art projects.
No.12875
>>12872
>>12871
>>12817
>>12799
Okay, I'm sorry. Did not meant to upset you all, im just eager for some new stuff.
No.12918
>>12875
np, I feel you fam. Oni takes some time to deliver, but he always did. Have a treat.
No.13173
>Rogue-Like Update 4/15/17
It's been a little while since the last update, but I've been answering questions along the way, so I thought I'd sum up where I'm at. The next full release will still be a few weeks away, I've been working on a lot of stuff but a lot of it won't be ready until a later release, so it's all about bundling up what I feel is enough to justify a new release for you guys.
In the shorter term though, I'm currently in the testing phase of the new sex scene system, which I plan to release to you guys soon in the form of a standalone demo. It'll be what they call a "vertical slice," just one example of each potential element of the system, so you can see how it plays out. It will be very short and simple, basically one sex scene that starts in the middle, but it'll show how the new dialog can occur.
The intention of this system is to be a bit more flexible, so that it can account for more simultaneous actions. The previous system would attempt to bundle all things happening per cycle into a single line of dialog, but this could get overly long, so the new system breaks it up into as many as three separate lines per cycle. I'd like you guys to test out this concept, see if it fits, and if so, I can continue expanding it to all similar elements in the game. Again, I'll get this part out as soon as I've done basic testing on it to make sure it works as intended.
It's been a little while since the last update, but I've been answering questions along the way, so I thought I'd sum up where I'm at. The next full release will still be a few weeks away, I've been working on a lot of stuff but a lot of it won't be ready until a later release, so it's all about bundling up what I feel is enough to justify a new release for you guys.
In the shorter term though, I'm currently in the testing phase of the new sex scene system, which I plan to release to you guys soon in the form of a standalone demo. It'll be what they call a "vertical slice," just one example of each potential element of the system, so you can see how it plays out. It will be very short and simple, basically one sex scene that starts in the middle, but it'll show how the new dialog can occur.
The intention of this system is to be a bit more flexible, so that it can account for more simultaneous actions. The previous system would attempt to bundle all things happening per cycle into a single line of dialog, but this could get overly long, so the new system breaks it up into as many as three separate lines per cycle. I'd like you guys to test out this concept, see if it fits, and if so, I can continue expanding it to all similar elements in the game. Again, I'll get this part out as soon as I've done basic testing on it to make sure it works as intended.
No.13183
>>13173
he doesn't call himself a coder yet he's trying to do complex stuff, its great that hes putting work in but hes not exactly quick with it. I don't like putting trust in, but he hasn't shot his own foot with delivering, not yet at least.
No.13185
>>13183
I like that he's trying to have these complex systems, but the last release was a stumbling clusterfuck of poorly copy-pasted code. I hope he's learned from that or has plans to hire a professional coder. Even better would be both.
No.13187
>>13183
I just don't understand why he's so adamant on not hiring a coder, he'll save himself such a gigantic headache and have infinitely more freedom with what he can do with the game
No.13188
>>13187
He probably doesn't want to pay for a decent one.
No.13216
>>13188
The massive increase in releases he'd be able to pull off will draw in far more backers than this 2 minutes worth of new content per 5 months update schedule
No.13225
>>13188
Why are you telling me what I already know? He probably doesn't want to have to pay a decent programmer because they cost money. He probably thinks that he can keep the money to himself if he just jerry-rigs the code so it "works" for his purposes.
No.13227
Damn it, I meant to reply to >>13216
No.13260
>>13225
I could think of 2 more reasons :
> The coder would need to start coding the game from start, otherwise he'd spend more time fixing the problems in the coding.
> He doesn't trust someone, probably due to how school/university taught us, working with other people is a nightmare, and if you don't know them it's worse.
People keep giving him money, even if it takes him 2 months to add a single animation to the game, as far as he's concerned he can keep this up because he's still getting the money by the end of the month, we're the ones who don't get what we're paying for.
No.13261
>>13260
well not much "we" and more like "them" I'm too poor to give money away to someone else.
No.13337
>>12918
>garter belt
muh dik
Can't see their pattern without focusing on them. Might just be poor gamma correction on my end.
>>13260
Also possible that getting practical programming experience is one of his goals in making the game.
Not to say that one ought not be critical of the rate at which new content releases but it might be an unavoidable side-effect of a core feature.
No.13341
>>13260>>13261
I'm a patreon, one buck gets you the game soooo I'm getting what I'm paying for.
No.13342
By the way, is there something wrong? For some reason most options for Kitty is unavailable.
No.13344
>>13342
No. Nothing's wrong. Just hasn't been put in yet.
No.13345
>>13344
Ah..that explains that.
No.13355
>>12403
Cry harder, you filthy fucking jewish piece of shit.
No.13362
>>13337
>>12918
You're welcome.
>those digits
>practical programming experience is one of his goals in making the game
I'd say so. At his own pace. Oni did deliver, every time.
No.13377
>>13372
This is now jinxed for 50 years
No.13388
>>13372
his ass waited how long to kill aku and still hasn't? I don't have the life span to wait for this shit if were talking this long.
No.13440
>>12465
>mod
whats the mod?
No.13501
>>13440
Some cheat menu integrated by a modder, could be reached through new icon. Had usually been the rucksack iirc, see >>13362 and >>12918
No.13836
No.13838
>>13836
>tech demo
>vertical slice
It's two minutes of fucking garbage.
No.13851
No.13852
>>13851
Not worth it. it's just a hand job from rogue. with kitty in the room. saying kitty plays with rogues tits. not even nude. That's it. period. the next release with new stuff is coming up. it's just not this Tech Demo.
No.15083
No.15240
11 May update
>Hey guys, sorry I've been quiet lately, I just haven't had a lot worth reporting. I don't want you to think I haven't been hard at work, it's just that the stuff I've been working on isn't really news to talk about. I've been converting content over for Kitty, I've been converting Rogue content over to that new dialog system I demoed, I've been tweaking things here and there as it's occurred to me, and I've been working with a writer to add some more vignettes to the game, but that isn't quite ready yet.
>A few new things I've been working on, I added an element where each day each girl picks a "favorite thing to do," and she will react more positively towards this activity, and might eventually initiate it herself. You can also tell her what your favorite activity is, and that might also influence her choices. I'm also adding a "dirty talk" option, which would be included in the dialog system from the demo, and something that you could turn on and off (if she cares to listen).
>The problem is these are a lot of half-finished systems, so it might take a while before I would have anything ready to release. I've been thinking about just using the older versions of most of this stuff and shipping out a version that has the new content added for Kitty and not much else, just to tide you over while I finish up the rest of this, but it would slow down the overall progress a bit. Let me know what you guys think.
No.15247
>>15240
Oh boy more ambitiousness stalling up something.
No.15256
Is it really hard for this man to get a helping hand ?
No.15259
>>15253
ayy jjfrenchie stuff is top notch
No.15267
>>15256
hes strong and independent, he don't need no man
No.15405
Someone link the demo scene please.
No.15425
No.15444
13 May update
>I just wanted to do a quick follow-up, there was a lot of support in the last post, and I really appreciate that guys. This is a labor of love, but I also want to make sure that you feel your support has been valued, and I couldn't manage it without you. Several people expressed that they were concerned that if they hadn't heard from me in a while, that something terrible might have happened with the project, and I know there are other projects where people just sort of wander off. So I want to make this promise to you guys:
>I'm not going to go anywhere.
>I plan to keep working on this project for the foreseeable future, keep adding new things for the characters to do, keep adding new girls to interact with, keep expanding this game to be the best game it can be. If that ever does change, if I ever do get some can't-pass opportunity, or I get bored and decide to move on to something else, then I promise to announce that to you guys publicly, and to continue working on this project anyway for at least a few months after, trying to tie up loose ends as best as I can and make the game as complete as possible. I'll give you guys plenty of time to pull up stakes if there's nothing more to look forward to, but I don't expect anything like that any time soon.
>The only reasons I would ever cut shorter than that is if I die (hopefully not), or am otherwise completely unable to get near a computer to let you know what's up (also hopefully not). But I may not post much for a few weeks here and there, just because sometimes what I'm working on is boring technical stuff and I don't really have anything to talk about and kind of suck at social engagement. ;)
No.15465
What's the decryption key?
No.15485
>>15465
All the links in the thread have the decryption key in them. Try disabling the mega browser extention, or if that doesn't work try logging in. MEGAsync is also an option.
No.16197
22 May update
>It came up in last week's post that it would be a good idea to post on a roughly weekly basis, even if I hadn't done anything particularly exciting, so here it goes. ;)
>I've been working my way through Rogue's dialog, converting things to the new system. I'd come to a realization that there was a slight redundancy, which was in "fondle pussy" verses "insert pussy." They were mostly the same thing with some minor variation, so what I did was merge the two. Hopefully this will be a smooth transition. Now "insert pussy" is just a speed setting of fondling her pussy, similar to the different types of blowjobs. There is an approval check the first time through, but after that you can just switch to it automatically. Streamlines several areas.
>I've also finished the fun little Rogue classroom scene, which should appear randomly now, when conditions are right. The Rook is the writer who's been working with me on this new content, hopefully you guys will enjoy the new dialog. He also worked up a version for Kitty and some other stuff, but I'm still working on converting that over.
No.16244
No.16262
>>16197
You know, I thought the more frequent status updates would be good but they just re-affirm how slow he is.
No.16266
>>16262
He's being too ambitious by making it unnecessarily complex.
No.16754
29 May Update
>Ok, I've finally finished the process of transferring Rogue's fondling options to the new system, with a few added customization touches. Part of this process also involves adding the dialog for if Rogue is feeling up one of the other girls, so that should be an element in the next version. Once I'm done a few more things with Rogue, I'll have to convert these changes over to Kitty, which should go faster.
>I also added a feature to the classroom where if both girls are in the room, you can choose who to sit next to. If they are friendly, then they might be next to each other, otherwise they will be across the room from each other, but choosing who you sit next to might influence how interactions go. For the time being, you'd have to sit next to Rogue to do her new sexy flirting option, but I can expand how that works a bit in future builds.
>In boring technical stuff news, as I've been going through the game, I've been working to make it a bit more legible as code. In Renpy, blocks of code are denoted by indenting things, the further back something is indented, the more things it is beholden to above it. Previously I almost always just used a single tab to indent things, but eventually I found that using several tabs back made it easier to tell when major portions began and ended, so I've been going through and doing that as I work on the new sections. This makes it easier for me to find my place as I work on this stuff.
>Also, the guy at https://www.patreon.com/GreatChicken got in touch with me, and wondered if I'd take a look at his game. It's got some interesting stuff going on, a dating sim sort of thing with a customizable female lead, so if you like this one, maybe check it out.
No.16755
Any chance for Danielle Moonstar in this?
No.16757
>>16755
How the fuck would we know?
Go ask dev not us
No.16759
>>16757
Would he even respond? He takes so long
No.16764
>>16755
eventually maybe but that would be in a couple of years. after kitty he's gonna do Emma Frost
No.16795
>>16755
she is such a minor character I don't think he will.
maybe Scarlett witch will be after Emma.
No.17252
5 June Update
>Ok, so where am I at right now? I finished updating all of Rogue's core sex dialogs to the new format, except for the toys, which I might disable at first in the next build, just to speed things up a bit and move on to the next bit. I also added/updated all her offhand options, and her "threesome" options, so that there are currently several different things she could do to Kitty or you when she's the background character in the scene (like Kitty was in the demo).
>As for these threesome options, in most cases they will have limited, if any support in the art department. I don't plan to make complex sprites that account for every possible Twister position (sorry), mostly because of the customization options that would need to be reflected in each. I plan to have a "female hand" that will fondle various body parts, and position the other girl in vaguely the right location, but that's about it for the time being.
>One other feature I added, while updating Rogue's masturbation element, was that I greatly improved your character's options to jack it whenever he wants. I still need to tweak a few things, but it's now basically an offhand option whenever your dick is not otherwise occupied. I also added reactions for Rogue seeing your dick out, and persistent tracking of this. You'll put it away automatically when a sexy time sequence ends, but basically this can lead to some fun exchanges, especially when you guys get caught out. I might add a flirt option later to just show it off, of course with catastrophic results if she's not interested. ;)
>So, what's left to do for the next build? The plan is to go back through the orgasm code, and make sure it all flows well with the new options, and then port all this new mess over to Kitty. That should go faster since a lot of it is just mechanics and would just involve a nametag flip.
>Btw, I was asked in the previous update thread why I haven't updated the "goals" option in Patreon for a while. My answer is because you guys have already exceeded my expectations. I'm very humbled and appreciative of the support you've given me, and I'm honestly giving this project my all. I can't promise to do more if a given goal is met, because if I had the time to be doing that thing, I'd already be doing it, and I don't want to bullshit you guys with goals I'd be doing whether they were met or not, or hold content hostage until you pay a ransom. I'd rather just keep pumping out the game as fast as I can and make it the best that I can. The past couple years have been amazing, and have really given me hope for my long term future (since I don't have any sort of pension).
>And as for hiring other people to help, I'm still searching for new people to assist with the project, so if you see anyone that could work in an art style similar to mine and might be interested, send them my way or me to them. I could always use people to work on UI elements, to work on adapting clothing to the different poses, to create new clothing options, to do backgrounds, etc. I can also still use someone good with Renpy's Screen and ATL systems to work with animations and UI elements. If paying for these guys ever became an issue, I'd let you know, but for the time being I'd be happy to pay them out of pocket.
>Thanks again for all those who have supported me on this project.
No.17263
Main girl has a shower scene and goes outside in this game.
> Getting cucked by water and air.
No.17265
so the hentai artist getting almost 4k a month for drawing hentai art can't be bothered to draw the threesome hentai art needed for his hentai game
ok
No.17266
>>17265
I guess you should stop donating to him to teach him a lesson then.
Really make it sting.
No.17267
ok kinda getting tired of these "updates" where he's telling us whats new instead of showing. it's been months since the last version came out and he's supposedly got all this new content done. I don't believe it because if he actually did have a bunch of new and fixed content he would be posting it to restore faith in the project not just giving essays about what he's doing.
No.17276
>Artist gets paid for months to grapple with his shitty spaghetti code instead of just hiring a competent coder
No.17286
>>17276
Yup,Hes seems to be treating the game like a hobby even though hes getting paid for the game to be finished. Shows hes not really taking it serious and is just using the game as a learning experience for his coding. I'll be back in a year, maybe half the game will be done by then.
No.17318
>>17286
His Patreon was originally for his art. Dude's been cranking out spank material for years. He ain't going anywhere.
On the other hand, the original Rogue-like beta came out in 2015 and not a whole lot has changed in about a year. Kitty doesn't count since she's practically nonfunctional.
On the other other hand, its current form beats almost every other trainer game, there are a lot of ways you can train Rogue and the art is great. If all this rework means he figures out how to churn out trainer games for any animated series I'm set for life.
No.17978
15 June Update
>Ok, quick update this week, and a bit late, sorry about that. I made a quick and dirty migration of Rogue's basic sex dialog options over to Kitty. I haven't gone through and adapted them to be more in her style just yet, but it's good enough that I can start testing to make sure it all works at a basic level, at least.
>That's what I'm doing now, the basic testing. I just got through the "try to launch the game, see a blue screen full of errors to chase down, repeat" phase of the testing process, and now I'm going to start the diagnostic phase. I've put in little tracker lines to keep track of what the variables are up to at each step of the process, so that I can see if, say, a lust stat shoots upward way too fast in a given scenario and I can figure out why that would be happening. Once I'm satisfied that it's mostly working, I can delete those portions, but occasionally they slip through and players have reported finding one from time to time. Once the first build of this version comes out, make sure to report if a line like "Focus:0 Rogue Lust:10 Kitty Lust:0" comes up.
>Hopefully these systems will work as intended out of the gate, but once I'm done testing them out on my end, I can go back and finish off a few other systems and get a build out. Hopefully won't be too long now.
No.17979
>>13355
Triggered hard kek
No.18118
Rogue-Like Update 6/15/17
>Ok, quick update this week, and a bit late, sorry about that. I made a quick and dirty migration of Rogue's basic sex dialog options over to Kitty. I haven't gone through and adapted them to be more in her style just yet, but it's good enough that I can start testing to make sure it all works at a basic level, at least.
>That's what I'm doing now, the basic testing. I just got through the "try to launch the game, see a blue screen full of errors to chase down, repeat" phase of the testing process, and now I'm going to start the diagnostic phase. I've put in little tracker lines to keep track of what the variables are up to at each step of the process, so that I can see if, say, a lust stat shoots upward way too fast in a given scenario and I can figure out why that would be happening. Once I'm satisfied that it's mostly working, I can delete those portions, but occasionally they slip through and players have reported finding one from time to time. Once the first build of this version comes out, make sure to report if a line like "Focus:0 Rogue Lust:10 Kitty Lust:0" comes up.
>Hopefully these systems will work as intended out of the gate, but once I'm done testing them out on my end, I can go back and finish off a few other systems and get a build out. Hopefully won't be too long now.
Time for another demo it is…
No.18226
what the fuck did he mean by this
No.18243
>>18226
>>18118
>I copied what already existed for Rogue and adapted it for Kitty, so you can do same things to her, too.
Which is nice.
>Still needs more time.
That's how I read it.
No.18269
I just popped in to htg to do the rounds and my opinion is that this anon is correct >>18243
>migration of Rogue's
>sex dialog options
>over to Kitty.
copypasta and smooth out the differences
No.18288
>>18226
>creating a system for one girl is hard
>I'M GOING TO DO IT ON ANOTHER GIRL TOO WHAT"S THE WORST IT COULD HAPPEN?
>OH YEAH I'M PLANNING ANOTHER ONE ON TOP OF IT
And doing multiple pairs for it is going to be even going to be a bigger clusterfuck
No.18336
>>18269
Well, I hope you also understand I didn't mention there is no blame in posting a few messages more often, telling patrons 'just started, I'm halfway through, almost done'. I do appreciate creators giving a shit about their audiences. Maybe with a new pic included to keep the flames low ('have a tease, fellow pervs').
Anons can wait, but it's fucken hard sometimes, believe me. Proof is >>13372 >>18276 Wouldn't write this, if I wouldn't like that silly game so much…
>Oni, why are you doing this to us?
No.18337
I think this is one of the best, if not THE best, game here.
So much potential. So little fucks given.
No.18344
>>18337
i dont think its the best i think with its art is high up there but its updates are so slow it bogs it down. It certainly has the potential if the artist was a better coder and put his nose to the grindstone this game could have 3 finished girls already at the level of rogue
No.18377
>>18288
he said he was developing a system of implementing new girls with Kitty so that future girls don't take as long.
No.18425
>>18377
The problem is that he doesn't know how to code well. So what should be a simple system where you have a method that runs and you just call in each girl as needed, he's doing some weird bloated shit where he copy and pastes code for each girl individually. It's a fucking mess and he should just hire a professional coder.
No.18557
>>18425
someone asked him about this on his patreon his responds was that him learning how to code was most of the fun of doing it. he is however outsourcing background art and some shit but not coding.
No.18579
I don't understand why are people raging about him taking his time.
It's his hobby. If I understand it correctly, he started the patreon as a platform where he could post his art and people could throw a little dosh if they liked it. Then it exploded and he decided to make a game and people liked it more so they threw in more shekels.
BUT he is not paid by his patrons to do anything. The only thing the patrons are paying for is the stuff in boxes with the price tags.
The game is still his hobby and if you pledge and expect from him to outsource everything and finish the game in next 2 weeks you are stupid person indeed. Not to mention that you can unpledge anytime…
The rest of us who dont pay a single cent should probably just shut up and wait since right now, every version is leaked somewhere and you are getting free content. Why people expect to get anything for free or feel entitled to get results of someones work for free is beyond me…
Most people on Patreon making games are in process of learning of how to make games. And the majority of them are complete beginners.
No.18594
>>18579
this
its like people don't understand the root of the name Patreon (patron)
imagine we are the rich dudes in the castle, and people like Oni are our vassals who play music in the court
its the modern equivalent, they get to make their art and not be a penniless pauper like most artists in history, and we get content
good system tbh, unless you have government funding for the arts, like say australia used to with movies when Mad Max and stuff came out, most artists are fucking boned unless they make it BIG
Zone-sama is the only porn artist to make it mainstream in the west
No.18597
>>18594
Except your analogy is flawed, just like Patreon is.
I'm the king and I would like a performance from Oni. Oni charges an upfront free or he walks. I hesitantly pay and then two things happen.
A) He doesn't show up at all that night and instead flees my kingdom with my cash. I can try to get it back but most likely he's already fled.
B) He preforms but it's shit or it's not what he described so I'd like a refund. Well, Oni says he doesn't give refunds and it was your prerogative to know how shit he was before hand. But the posters he spread around town told you how good he was or you didn't listen to personal criticism and just wanted a good show.
It's a flawed system because there's no protection for the customer. Once you put down a pledge, that money's gone. And even if you leave a pledge on auto-renew and the dev walks, you're not getting that money back either.
Again, only thing you can do is a Chargeback but then you'd have to explain to a bank teller what the payment was for and if you're brave enough to tell them that he didn't draw your MLP porn correctly, then you probably will get it back.
No.18624
>>18579
because his game is great
No.18627
>>18597
regardless when you're the one with the money so you should be the one who's careful with it, not Oni. IF you think that Oni's work isn't being worth your money, then stop giving him money, you can give it again when he has your product, or just become a free loader.
In the end if you're adult enough to play erotic indie games you should be adult enough to be careful with your money.
No.18629
>>18594
Did patrons back in the day get anything tangible back for sponsoring (not commissioning) an artist? Patrons see Patreon as a service because that's how it's advertised by creators. "Pledge this amount each month to get access to this!" It's not about supporting the creator, it's just paying someone for a product or service.
That's the flaw of Patreon and why it's so consumer-unfriendly for game development. This has been said time and time again, but it's true. Getting paid by the month irrespective of the amount of work you've done doesn't incentivize finishing a game, it incentivizes prolonging the completion of your project for as long as you can.
Personally, I'm fine with Oni and the way he runs things. The game isn't the only thing he works on and he makes that clear. It's also only paywalled behind the $1 tier and there aren't any gimmicks like "$20 supporters get access to alpha builds, $15 supporters get those builds a week later," etc. Its price makes it easy to drop in and out whenever there's a new release or whatever.
No.18631
>>18597
I see your point but I have to disagree. As a consumer who pays money you should be careful to whom you give your money unless you want to be scammed. There are many people who scam others. Your sole responsibility is to take precautions to avoid that.
To put it into perspective.
Oni is on the Patreon for a while. After this time you can be sure what to expect from him what content he does and what is is workflow. So you can judge accordingly if you want to donate your money. And if you are still not sure you can just go for $1 and try the beta to see whats going on. That amount money is not going to ruin your wallet (if it does then you should not donate anything) and if you are still not sure you can always try to contact one or more of his current patreons to get info from the source.
On the other hand if you see someone who just released his 0.1 alpha pre-release version of his brand new game originally named "<name>'s Story" or "<name>'s Life" that uses bad lifeless 3d renders no content but perfectly managed patreon hiearchy, and still give him your money, then the only money you should have is your parents allowance. Though if the brand new developer holds and the passion for what he does is evident, then again after careful consideration and investigation you vould throw few bucks his way. ¨
As a rule of thumb, commited and passionate dev/artist will work on his project because he loves doing it, and the amount of cash flowing his way does not affect much how he works.
The people who are in it only for the money though usually quit within the year or after few released broken versions.
To your analogy. As I wrote in my previous post, Patreon is not a place where you throw cash and then expect shit to happen. That is not how anyone should approach to Patreon regardless how some content creators use it to fund their projects. If you approach Patreon solely as a tip jar for artists/indie devs then you 'll find that it works really well. Though I agree that the system should make more precautions against abuse.
Your point A I think I'have addressed above.
Regarding B.
The way I see it is that refund in this case would be ridiculous. You can refund your shirt if it does not fit you, because you bought it over internet and didnt have the opportunity to try it personally.
In this case you'd like to refund content which you had already consumed. To give a proper analogy, its like buying a can of sprite, drinking it and then demanding a refund because you did not like the flavour, even though all the information was on the label. The content is consumed and you cannot unexperience the it when you ask for refund. If the info is not on the label then you should not buy it at all.
TLDR: It is solely consumers responsibility how they spend their money. Consumer alone is responsible for investigation and research of the creator where he wants to donate their money.
No.18632
>>18631
A lot of stuff i wrote here I derived from the YouTube content creator TotalBiscuit. You can love him or hate him but you have to acknowledge that regarding consumer protection and their responsibilities he is close to second to none. I encourage you all to watch or read his stuff on that topic.
No.18670
>>15253
>.JPG
Never gets old.
No.18727
>>18631
>To your analogy. As I wrote in my previous post, Patreon is not a place where you throw cash and then expect shit to happen. That is not how anyone should approach to Patreon regardless how some content creators use it to fund their projects. If you approach Patreon solely as a tip jar for artists/indie devs then you 'll find that it works really well.
This. If they make good content, throw a few bucks their way. If not, then don't.
It's not Kickstarer so don't treat it like it is.
No.19783
9 July Update
>Ok, so the new version is mostly ready. I've already split off a "build" version from the "work" version and I'm making sure it all at least functions before shipping it out, but I want to be very clear on this, the first version I put out will likely have some bugs. Some serious, game crashing, "save files might not work right" bugs. If all you want is to have fun playing the game right away, I do NOT recommend the upcoming build. Just wait a week or so later, I'll keep you guys updated, and when we get what seems to be a relatively stable build, I'll let you guys know.
>Now for those that do like to text things and see if they can break them, there's a lot going on with this one. I want you guys to test the new sex dialogs in as many combinations as possible. If you get any dialog that seems weird to you, let me know. I hopefully cleared out any test strings, but you never know.
>The way it should work is that you get at least 1-2 lines of dialog per interaction, and up to four if you're in a threesome and everything is going on. Also keep an eye on the stats and take note if anything jumps too heavily, or takes too long to grind out. Give me feedback on that not just where there are obvious errors, but also anything that you think sounds clunky, or should be happening more or less often, let me know how you like the system because there are a lot of levers I could pull to tweak it now that it's in place.
>I want to make sure that the new version works well from a fresh game, but also make sure it works from save files. I do NOT recommend making any permanent saves based on this version, as they might not work right moving forward, wait for the final build for that, but test out any saves you already have to make sure they translate properly. I changed a lot of elements in this one, and hopefully I managed them all correctly, but I may have missed a few things.
>So, test the new dialog system, try to get into some threesome situations with Kitty, test her new fondling mechanics, her new dating mechanics, test Rogue's ability to take her collar on and off separately from the green top, maybe some other stuff I forgot. Anyway, soon.
No.19809
>>19783
answering a comment asking when:
>Later today, most likely. I wanted to let this post sink in a little, so people wouldn't rush to download the new build immediately if they weren't ready for a glitchy mess. ;)
No.19812
just upload it you fucking weirdo
i only play the game until i come twice anyway
No.19847
No.19849
New Version dropped
>Ok, new version is here! This is the third time I'm typing this because Patreon's post editor shit the bed. Seems to be working now though. Anyway, Do not download this unless you're here to squash bugs. Unless I've been very lucky, this will be an unstable build that will be nothing but frustrating if you're trying to enjoy the game. If you do download it, don't make any saves that you want to use in later builds, because any fixes I make might not translate properly. Wait for the final version of 0.973 before making any permanent saves. In the meantime, new things to test:
>-Kitty's Dates
>-Kitty's Fondling
>-Rogue-Kitty threeway content (if Kitty is in the room when sex is going on, she might join in, what she does is currently random)
>-Kitty-Rogue threeway (same thing, only reversed)
>-Rogue's new ability to add/remove her spiked collar separate from the green top.
>-Maybe other things? I forget what was and wasn't in the last one.
>Anyway, try stuff out, send me error messages that pop up, dialog that seems out of place, graphics glitches, stats that seem to rise/fall more than expected, etc.
>Known flaws:
>-In threesomes, the girl in the back will likely be in a poor camera position most of the time, I plan to fix that. Also, >I don't have female hands for fondling animations, so those actions are mostly not animated currently, but I plan to add that next version.
Windows: https://mega.nz/#!pAh3nYyb!_7XfW7BgTs7uXglxjnBRww1og5DilS-bKER3vwk18h8
Mac: https://mega.nz/#!0MZShZjb!11LspyRHxEAfHviYoy4XI9WCVrdGlWrUyO-zuGBnEKs
Linux: https://mega.nz/#!UcRQRDKa!1E_bffVtJ3OnvQbcmmLi12W_zhCS2lhFNpi6JiyFdAk
No.19851
>>19849
thats it? holy shit it's fucking nohting
No.19852
It still has a lot of error's and seeing this makes since why it has taken him so long to get out a "working" version. The three way is pretty much text but it's till hot. He changed some facial expressions especially when you whip it out for the first time in front of them. There was one kinda of gross and hot thing. I think it may have glitched out. Rogue made out with cum still in her mouth.
No.19857
am I getting a ton of errors because I had previous versions, or is it just that this is a buggy mess?
when I go to bed, crash. When I whip it out, crash. when I try to undress her, crash
No.19858
No.19862
>>19851
It's not just nothing, it's a buggy mess of nothing. And believe me this isn't going to get any better, he now knows he can get by with only this, the standard just got lower boys!
No.19864
If only he hired a coder things would be far better
No.19870
>>19858
does it fix all the bugs?
No.19872
No.19879
Does anyone have version 0.972c?
No.19881
lol, you all must be new here. what the fuck did you expect
No.19883
>>19881
for real, did you people even read the green text? He said itll be a buggy mess. This whole game is just for him to get better at coding cuz he finds it fun. wait another week and there'll be a stable version.
No.19887
>>19879
Here's a modded version 0.972c. It lets you click on the stat bars up top to change them or click the backpack for some more options.
mega.nz/#F!MIdCVJRT!TgrEklivnRYEBKncwlkmDA!tMFBBKoa
No.19890
>>19887
This is .972c and not the newest version.973?
No.19892
>>19890
Yes that's why I wrote that it was while responding to anon asking specifically for that version.
Also here's the newest 0.973:
>Rogue-Like-0.973b-win.zip
mega.nz/#!61wGlCLD!6rAZobe71NTfwR6-lFU-0TMq0Lp8gl_oZvnVNO5BWXs
No.19895
No.19901
>>19892
Has this .973 been modified?
No.19902
>>19901
Other than some crashes fixed. No.
No.19903
>>19901
Never mind. Stupid question.
No.19908
>>19887
Thank you for the effort
No.19915
does anyone know if there are any cheats to this?
No.19918
No.19921
so i got this literally every time I tried to do something with rogue or kitty.
No.19928
>>19921
Shes also constantly masturbating, even during regular kisses with no lust and achieving orgasm for either person is extremely difficult.
All this time an Oni also hasn't made kittys room. He really needs someone to help him.
No.19932
>>19928
Yeah I don't often complain, but he's really fubar'd it this time
No.19936
No.19962
The classroom flirting/lewd event is nice though I hope there is a way to go through with the lewd without alerting McCoy. Going lewd also throws up errors to ignore.
I think there should be a check to see if the PC's got their dick out and change the climax options based on it. I had rogue doing panicked deepthroat swallowing without having ever getting the bool for seeing dick set.
Similar for the third wheel activities in a threesome.
>First time kitty and I make out without having just been on a date
>Rogue starts sucking my dick
>Kitty doesn't notice that this is happening and would have bolted if she were the third wheel in this situation
>Kitty would also get flustered if I start jacking it while rogue sucks
>Cumming was still based on Kitty instead of highly-addicted rogue just greedily sucking it down
>Neither kitty who just finished me off with a facial nor rogue who had been sucking my dick have seen my dick yet
Frustratingly unrefined but I think this is generally a good direction.
No.19963
Hopefully the code base is a lot more manageable now and he can get back to what he's good at.
No.19967
No.19974
>>19918
Call me retarded, but how do I access the Console?
No.19976
>>19974
you're retarded
you need to go into /renpy/common/ within the game folder and find 00console.rpy. Open that in a text editor and change "config.console = False" to "config.console = True". Capitalisation is important. Then in game you can press shift+o(not zero) to open the console.
This works with all renpy games.
No.19981
>>19974
well okay, you are retarded!
No.20017
>>19967
I've not seen many errors pop up. Classroom event properly works now.
No.20035
.973d update
>Again, this is a risky, bugfilled (likely) mess, just less of one than version c. Only download if you want to test for bugs, otherwise wait a week or so for a more stable version, I'll let you know when. Also, please remember to not load up saves from 0.973, 0.973a, or 0.973b. 0.973c is probably ok, I haven't messed with the updater function since then, but if you try to load a save from the previous 0.973 versions, you'll keep getting that "R_SeenPeen" error, but otherwise it should be gone.
>This version should remove the common " +: 'int' and 'str' " errors, but if they keep happening, let me know. I know I fixed at least one problem, and a test case I had running here was solved by my fixes, but it's possible that something entirely different is happening that I hadn't encountered.
>I also made various other tweaks, like Rogue/Kitty is less likely to go to town on herself while you're making out unless she's pretty comfortable doing so, the "X puts her clothes on" thing should no longer appear when she's just handed you her panties (although it may still be too aggressive, more testing on my end is needed to sort that out), and Professor X will no longer hassle you about just kissing in public. Maybe some other stuff I forget.
>There's still work to do before the fully stable build, but fingers crossed this will stop the real showstoppers.
Windows: https://mega.nz/#!VRh1kZDY!rEe1aIBhAlMZ2ejlU89P5H5fIXB9MOZCA4p4_jKcjbs
Mac: https://mega.nz/#!UU5lyKJC!vlAZW6AIXzFbV2fbMi9ijwVoGQRShNizHm2IcW3eAq0
Linux: https://mega.nz/#!sUBijQrS!MW8Z-qObAGnLIXr36xwrbLjd01VWVF4yhBUhjlsR9Tg
No.20065
>>20035
months of "coding" for this…>>20035
No.20068
>Rogue-Like-0.973e-win.zip
mega.nz/#!L5wkCSCQ!XsUIpL58oGfvM1-ql_bwBU_jo4x_CODS3l1S2ruo8K4
No.20076
>>20068
still waiting for the 'h' version
thanks for the link tho
No.20102
how the fug is the game so small? 60mb uncompressed?
No.20106
Does anybody have a kind of walkthrough? I want to know how
No.20202
>no actual drawn shit for the threesome scenes
meh
No.20213
>>20202
Unfortunately, this.
No.20217
>>20202
are you fucking serious?
No.20226
>>20217
no its joke you torolololed mate
No.20227
>>20226
Im laughing all my funs
No.20234
>>20202
>nothing visual for the threesome interactions
>still can't fuck kitty in her cute ass
>ihavenoideawhatimdoing tier bugfixing
Goddamnit Oni, it's all been downhill since you started drawing futashit.
No.20235
wew lads looks like another phoned in update
on track for 2025 release
No.20425
>last build was so bad that Oni already lost 100+ bucks of donations
kek
No.20426
>>20425
Holy shit, just checked it. This guy made almost $4000 per month for barebones game.
Life's unfair.
No.20435
>>20426
time to make sex games with never ending updates!
No.20438
>>20426
well to be fair the game is just a side project.
No.20500
19 July Update
>So a funny thing happened on the way to the stable build. . .
>I had been working on the stable build, fixing bugs that people brought up. A lot of people were reporting two problems, that the girls were bothering them about their comings and goings even if they weren't in the room at the time, and that clothes were behaving oddly, with characters changing clothes at random, or announcing that they were changing clothes when they shouldn't even be around. There were also somewhat related issues like when girls show up after you "wait", they don't always react as expected to the situation.
>The more I looked into what was causing this issue, the more started to unravel.
>So basically I've spent the past few days completely rebuilding how girls enter and leave rooms in your presence, and how they change their clothing. It's been a bunch of little tweaks all over the place, plus some fairly large chunks to manage it all. The end result should be pretty good though, a system where when you're already in a room and girls show up, they'll say "hi" and dress accordingly, where they should be less prone to telling you they're leaving if they were never there in the first place, just, better.
>But it has kind of stalled wrapping up this build while I finish getting it together, and might introduce a few different bugs when tested. So, sorry about that, but I think the end result will be worth it.
>Also, it doesn't help anything that I leave two different copies of the code editor open, one filled with "work" code and the other filled with nearly identical "latest build" code, and every time Windows 10 goes into standby mode and comes out of it, it might decide to shuffle their order on the taskbar. ;)
No.20504
>>20500
You can't make this shit up. Wait, yes you can.
No.20509
>>20500
hes just delaying for the sake of delaying and making the game more complex than it needs to be. His donaters are already getting pissed with him, shits gonna blow up in his face if he doesn't fuck off with coding and just get back to doing art.
No.20510
>>20500
>at one point I considered making him my first and only Pateron tip
Glad I decided against it. $1 is still $1, and this guy isn't doing much to deserve it.
No.20518
>>20500
comment from oni :
>…
>I welcome any help I can get to speed this project up, and I'm more than willing to compensate people for their time if they add value to the project, but figuring out the best way to coordinate multiple people and maintain the project as a consistent vision is harder than it sounds until you actually try it. I do appreciate the critique though, and will continue to try and figure out ways to improve the development process.
what is git ?
No.20540
>>20500
Who the fuck donates to this moron
No.20542
This game bearly made any progress since I first played it, and that was back during gamergate when we migrated to 8ch. A competent dev could have done the same work in 3 months
No.20545
>>20542
I still can't believe he has any backers left, he practically gave them nothing but text and bugs for half a year
No.20570
>>20500
Is that a joke post?
No.20575
>>20540
The game is still "complete" he's just adding features to it. The game was about Rogue and that part is completed, he decided to add Kitty and milk the game because people wanted it.
The industry is so full of trash there's very little options who are better and fewer whose developers have more decency. Most of the games are 3D, with incest and some sort of corruption and have similar stories and similar mechanics, all with the goal of getting to the point they can work as little as possible and milk the game for as long as they can.
I do think it's absurd, but it's not my money so I don't have a say, maybe I'll just make my own game so we have something a bit different that has a bit more quality than all the shit we see.
No.20589
July 20
>Rogue-Like 0.973f (Wait a minute)
>Ok, as I described in the update, this is a hopefully less buggy version of 0.973, if we're very lucky we'll be able to consider it a stable release. This doesn't include the fixes I made to the "when they show up/leave a room you're in" sections, because that will require separate testing and I want to get a stable version out before that. It does contain a number of fixes over version e though, which should help with errors during the sex dialog, among other things.
>Give it a try, report any bugs that come up, and if we can go a few days without any more showstoppers, we can consider this one "stable enough." In the meantime, I'm working on 0.974, which will have the new leave/arrive mechanics, and hope to get testing out on that in a few more days.
No.20599
No.20610
>Not implemented
I won't blame him for being a record-holding lazy fuck, however you have to be clinically insane to pay 5000 a month for it. Good for him.
No.20645
>>20589
fucking anything on new art or events? Like fuck sake.
No.20682
No.20696
>>20682
Hell there's still Greek letters to use.
No.20704
>>20696
Now this is wisdom. This technique could keep a single version going for another month, maybe two! Think of the money to be made!
No.20705
>>20518
Git's an SCM (source control management) tool used for version control.
https://git-scm.com/
No.20760
>>12470
>cheat
What was it that you're supposed to do to open the console command? I cant open it on the latest version….
No.20761
>>20760
You have to activate it. Renpy>common>console.rpy Line 97 change from "False" to "True" Specifically. This is the samething for all Renpy games.
And to the other guys he is trying to iron out the Errors. That is the reason for all the A-H updates. We are testing and sending errors to Oni. Compare A-H
A lot of errors have been taken out. He has the art done but the Errors were too much and he hasn't added much until he can get these errors addressed. He is an Artist this isn't his only project he does through his patreon. Look up Oni (artist) on R34, and sankakuchan.
No.20762
>>20760
>>20761
The Line does change depending on the game but it usually is between line 80 to line 110
No.20763
No.20765
>>20076
>>20682
Ha !
fucking called it !
No.20795
>>20696
lets go the star force route then, up to rouge-like 0.973omega and repeat!!!
No.20803
Let me know when 0.973z is out please
No.20874
>>20645
Doubtful. He seems to use number changes to indicate new content while letters just indicate bugfixing revisions. Some content might be opened up by bugfixing but I don't think he adds new things.
No.20973
No.20978
>>20973
What is he even adding at this point
No.20979
No.20980
Anybody know if there is a cheat to raise Kitty's stamina? She keeps getting worn out before we really get started.
No.21008
>>20973
I'm waiting for .973Ω
No.21012
>>20980
It's not officially implemented but I think that's managed by K_MaxAction and K_Action. By default they are both at 3 and the max for Rogue's code is 10.
No.21040
2nd time I've posted this. Hopefully it will take this time.
Rogue Like version .973i
mega link (mac win and linux)
https://mega.nz/#!SJ5knbbI!Nt9Q5YxbPtB06KkTnVEi4ebLe5k9fHJ5Waehu3cTUs4
Anybody know a way to increase Kitty's stamina?
No.21041
>Rogue-Like 0.973i (still working on it)
What happens when he runs out of letters?
No.21049
>>21041
he will start using kanji
No.21054
>>21049
There's also Cyrillic. The possibilities are endless.
No.21059
by the way, the guy we play as has two dicks
No.21062
>>21059
>black skin
Please delete that photo.
No.21068
>>21059
>playing with a nigger dick
what the fuck is wrong with you?
No.21069
>>20575
Of the ones I sometimes check fucking mity is the only one who produces shit. I've been waiting so god damn long for Iris Quest
No.21071
>>21059
looks likes Rogue is taking a dumb
No.21072
>>21059
Well, he is a mutant
No.21073
>>21012
Where can I find this? I checked in 00console.rpy
No.21080
>>21073
The file is script.rpy which can be extracted from the archive.rpa. I use rpatool but there are other programs. You can extract the renpy archives to get the images but it's also handy for finding console variables.
No.21126
K_Love
K_Obed
K_Inbt
P_Income
R_Love
R_Inbt
R_Obed
K_Lust
K_Addict
K_Addictionrate
K_Lvl
K_MaxAction
P_Cash
R_Lust
R_Addict
R_Addictionrate
R_Lvl
R_MaxAction
add +=(number) to increase score) or -=(number) to decrease score) at the end of those. no spaces
No.21132
>>21126
We should just add this shit to the next thread by default. People always forget them.
No.21134
>>21132
Someone should make a meta-thread about posting guidelines….someone
No.21146
is high ihbt good or bad?
No.21148
>>21059
>play as a mutant
>be black
But why tho
No.21158
hmm for some reason now the games won't even open for me anymore. I can see the process in task manager but then it just closes itself
anyone experiencing this?
No.21351
31 July Update
>Ok, so for those not following the various version updates, I think we've reached a relatively stable build. For those who just want to play with the game and have a reasonably stable experience, Version 0.973i should be reasonably stable, although it does have some bugs that I've already worked on fixing, but where the fix might create some more bugs and require more testing, so expect that to begin in a couple weeks. The main issue is that girls might tell you they're leaving a room, when they don't seem to be in the room at the time. This is a flaw in that system, and I've made some major changes to how that works on this end, so it should be cleared up now. Mostly just ignore them when they do that and it shouldn't cause any issues.
>But that aside, there's a lot to play with in version 0.973. I expanded Kitty's sex options a bit to include fondling options, and the new dialog system allows for a lot more threesome potential.
>In the next build that I'm already hard at work on, it will have a new system for when girls enter or leave a room you're in, much more natural and flexible, I believe. I'll also be adding Kitty's bedroom and associated scenes, and I think I've figured out a clever alternative to "Plan Omega" for her to employ, if you're going pure Kitty route. Also various other tweaks here and there.
No.21381
>>21351
>Version 0.973i
>Still has bugs
Jesus Christ, Oni. Just hire a coder.
No.21386
>>21381
>now with bugs that create more bugs!
Splendid, i think we just discovered patreon Perpetuum mobile
No.21387
>>21351
>i give up: the post
LOL, I was hoping he'd get further into the alphabet before it was all over.
No.21417
>>21381
"B-b-but I want to learn! Its not like its a personal project and im making money off it and constantly lowering expectations"
Oni get your shit together and get a coder. I get youre being a bitch about trust worthy people and all but get a legal contract made or something then.
No.21427
>>21351
I bet he's just scared that the coder might run off with his work or pussyfooting the issue that the game would be complete if he hires someone
No.21436
>>21417
How do contracts made over the internet works anyways? How do people sign that shit?
No.21442
>>21436
You mail them a real contract?
No.21475
His monthly money per month keeps going down.
It just keeps tumbling down.
No.21479
>>21475
Actually if anything it's been holding steady.
https://graphtreon.com/creator/OniArtist
Always around 2,100 "donators" and getting around $3,500 per month since the start of the year.
No.21924
Yo im at a place where i dont have my pc, and only have my android tablet, not so many games to play. There used to be a android port of rogue kike. Aanyone got a link? i deleted the app, beacuse of nofap, but i need it again, "for a friend"
No.21996
>>21479
That's more than most people make working 40 hour weeks. And this guy does it in 30 minutes of his spare time once a few months.
No.22004
No.23264
>>21996
All this tells me is I should be doing something, anything, on Patreon.
No.23285
>>23264
That's what I thought, but it's not that easy. You only see the guys that hit the jackpot, not the 90% that put in dozens of hours every week and only make like 5 bucks. This applies to everything in life really not just patreon.
No.23298
>>21148
obviousloy he is doubling down on victimhood
No.23349
23 August update
>Sorry, sorry, I've been quiet, I need to stop being quiet for so long, but it keeps slipping my mind that I should tell you what I'm up to. Let's see. . .
>I've worked on a little more of the art stuff for the game, I'm going to try and get the "female hand" art in there for when girls are playing with themselves or each other. I've also got some new background art by Missmuffin that I think looks really great. The Rook's been turning out some Kitty relationship and chat content for the game, which should make for some fun scenes. I've been going through the clothing and travel mechanisms to make them smoother, as well as adding some more of Kitty's sex scene options.
>I also forgot to mention, but Purity Sin did a playthrough of the game a while back, which was kinda funny to watch. It really taught me some stuff about how people might play through it without knowing all the behind the scenes stuff as well as I do.
No.23411
>>23349
Man it must be nice to just fuck around and get cash for free.
No.23496
>>23411
>Tell people about the things you're doing
Anon: Hurrdurr, he's not doing anything.
jesus christ.
No.23499
No.23532
>>23496
>hey guys you have paid me literally tens of thousands of dollars for the sole purpose of making a game, so I put in around an hour of work thanks bye!!!
I wonder why anyone would be displeased by this.
No.24147
Roguel-Like Update 8/23/2017
Sorry, sorry, I've been quiet, I need to stop being quiet for so long, but it keeps slipping my mind that I should tell you what I'm up to. Let's see. . .
I've worked on a little more of the art stuff for the game, I'm going to try and get the "female hand" art in there for when girls are playing with themselves or each other. I've also got some new background art by Missmuffin that I think looks really great. The Rook's been turning out some Kitty relationship and chat content for the game, which should make for some fun scenes. I've been going through the clothing and travel mechanisms to make them smoother, as well as adding some more of Kitty's sex scene options.
I also forgot to mention, but Purity Sin did a playthrough of the game a while back, which was kinda funny to watch. It really taught me some stuff about how people might play through it without knowing all the behind the scenes stuff as well as I do.
Sorry, sorry, I've been quiet, I need to stop being quiet for so long, but it keeps slipping my mind that I should tell you what I'm up to. Let's see. . .
I've worked on a little more of the art stuff for the game, I'm going to try and get the "female hand" art in there for when girls are playing with themselves or each other. I've also got some new background art by Missmuffin that I think looks really great. The Rook's been turning out some Kitty relationship and chat content for the game, which should make for some fun scenes. I've been going through the clothing and travel mechanisms to make them smoother, as well as adding some more of Kitty's sex scene options.
I also forgot to mention, but Purity Sin did a playthrough of the game a while back, which was kinda funny to watch. It really taught me some stuff about how people might play through it without knowing all the behind the scenes stuff as well as I do.
No.24190
>>21148
>mutant
>black
same thing tbh
No.24222
Rogue-Like Update 09/04/2017
Ok, sorry for the delays in the most recent version. My Internet connection was acting up lately, but I think I have it sorted now. Anyway, I'm trying to tie up the next version for you all, there's systems to test and some new dialog to work with. I'll have Kitty's room, including sleepovers and studying, chitchat options for her, some new animations for when girls are fondling themselves or each other, Xavier's study as a location, Plan Kappa, and I hope to add more of Kitty's relationship developments if I can finish those up.
In terms of new mechanics, there's the new "arrival and departures" system to track the girls' movements, which I'll want people to test to make sure it works as intended. It should also help to clear up when they do and don't change their clothing. I need to do some finishing touches but then I should be able to get a test build out to you guys.
No.24696
>>24222
This is going to be a testy release, among other things, it has a little diagnostic filler in there, every time you "wait", or the game "waits" for you, it will display the current and intended location of each girl, and tell whether they are "arriving," "leaving," or "staying." The first thing I need your feedback on is to make sure that all this information adds up, that if they seem to be around, that the system is confirming that they are around, and if they seem to be gone, that the system is confirming that they're gone, that everyone is where it thinks they are. This should work, it's gotten through some initial testing on my end, but it could also be a mess in places, so if a girl seems out of place, let me know what led up to that. Note that the system might claim a girl to be coming or going but do not if they are in a party with you. Anyway, once this system seems to be working as intended, I'll remove those diagnostic messages for the final build of this version.
Beyond that, here are a few other features added in this version.
* New room backgrounds for Kitty and Rogue's rooms, by MissMuffin.
* Kitty's room is actually accessible, including the same basic functions as Rogue's room.
* Sleeping over with Kitty is now an option in either of your rooms.
* Kitty's chit-chat is enabled, thanks to some work by The Rook.
* Kitty's Masturbation scenes are in.
* I've added "girl hands" that appear when a girl is touching herself or another girl, let me know if any combinations of this are too wonky, it's kind of complicated.
* Xavier's Study is now a valid location. Office hours are dawn to dusk, there might be things to do there at night. . .
* I made some adjustments to how she determines what clothes to where, and when she decides to change clothes due to circumstances. The "what to wear in our rooms" option doesn't work yet, but let me know if she changes clothes in situations that don't make sense to you. She should only do it automatically if you're moving to a more public location and she's in clothes that embarrass her.
Known issues:
* Kitty's body when in BJ mode still doesn't quite fit the head, but that's being worked on.
* I'm still finishing up the "Kitty Caught by Xavier" scene, and Kitty's relationship advancement scenes, but these will hopefully be added to later 0.974 builds.
Might actually be able to have sex with kitty one of these days.
No.24697
>>24696
where's the fucking link then?
No.24698
>>24697
Here's the fucking link then.
Rogue-Like-0.974-win.zip
mega.nz/#!dTJXEQLL!0nJ_i1lvZRLKnHRwdyRhWZ2KYeOELK5Zi98hIz_Awak
But you know you shouldn't download it until we do the alphabet song.
No.24699
>>24698
Oh and
Rogue-Like-0.974-mac.zip
mega.nz/#!QOghTYyQ!PSj7gnW3mOCHMiwrY5vZpNNh48tl-YP_5wYwCMQvi5w
Rogue-Like-0.974-linux.tar.bz2
mega.nz/#!VPQmiJKQ!ts82frZTAVQE7lf0IlRAgHlGN6axdoXrh7GiKRnuZ4Y
No.24704
>>24698
A-B-C-D-E-F-G…
H-I-J-K-C-C-C-P
No.24705
>>24696
It gives the impression that this guy could not update his game at all it would be the exact fucking same. Amazing.
Two dialog option and two images added: Woaaaah there! Slow down man! I can't keep up!
No.24706
>>24705
I was just saying something similar a few days ago.
>>24550
No.24865
Version 0.974b Changelog:
You can now choose masturbation directly form Kitty’s menu.
I added a whole list of new generic chit-chat, resulting in more natural conversations.
Xavier can now catch you and Kitty in the act. Be prepared.
Crowds should no longer creep on you when having threesomes in your own rooms.
Rogue and Kitty should now leave the shower after having showeved, after you leave.
You should be able to reach Kitty’s room through all the same methods as Rogue’s, but only after meeting her. In the last build some options were still firewalled.
You can now explore Xavier’s office again once per day, in the previous build you could only ever do it once.
Fixed an issue with characters cleaning cum off after agreeing to leave it on, let me know if this happens again, and how it plays out.
I added a variable correction system. If you ever have an issue where it says “K_Date not found†or any other variable, try going to the player room, opening the Tutorial, and running “Statchecker.†This should fix any missing variables, although I’m still not sure why variables occasionally slip through the cracks.
I fixed a few issues related to characters changing in and out of Gym clothes in the Danger Room, but let me know if any other issues occur around that.
I fixed a simple error with characters contradicting themselves over classroom seating.
I fixed some scheduling conflicts surrounding Rogue’s flirty Classroom scene, it should fit more naturally into the curriculum.
Probably some other little things in there, but unless I broke something new, this version should be a lot smoother. If I did break something new, buckle up.
Known issues:
doing sexy stuff with Kitty while Rogue is around can cause Kitty’s jealousy action to play instead of Rogue’s. This is very weird, but will be fixed next time.
.
They still do and Xavier can haul all of you into his office from any of your rooms.
No.24868
>>24865
Does that cover a,b, and c? It looks like he's just editing the post he originally made for a.
Any chance of an upload?
No.24881
No.24884
>>24881
No you can't. Not yet for some reason.
No.24885
>I added a whole list of new generic chit-chat, resulting in more natural conversations.
Did this really warrant an entire patch update? Who ACTUALLY requested this?
No.24888
>>24885
Seriously, random chit-chat in games like this are like toppings on ice cream. Nice to have, but not needed and too much can take away from the experience.
No.24890
No.24891
>>24888
This is fine. It's a fine addition, but did it really deserve it's own individual patch? It has nothing to do with the main attraction of the game, which is training Rogue, Kitty, or whatever girls get added to the game. It's just unnecessary content that will slow down production further down the line.
No.24898
>>24891
I wanted to suggest Storm..but since this is based on X-Men Evolution and not the 90's X-Men's Storm..I don't know.
No.24903
All I know is that in 0.947a I guess, I was able to bypass the whole Rogue involvement and concentrate on Kitty. Yeah, I did have to kiss Rogue when needed but that was all.
No.24930
>>24903
Unfortunately, Kitty still has very little content. There's some art for a sex scene in the files but you can't do anything with it yet.
No.24933
>>24930
Can someone explain me as dumb as I am, if the art is tehre, why can't he copy and paste the code from Rogue?
No.24940
>>24933
because it would probably manage to break the game knowing this fucking devs coding
No.24945
Can you disable the "X person is going to X place" messages in the latest version?
I don't need that slowing me down every time the time slot changes or I change locations.
No.24947
No.24952
For some reason I can't stop farting today
What is wrong with me?
No.24962
>>24952
1. Nothing wrong with you
No.24971
>>24947
>0.974D
what a fucking joke
No.24972
>>24962
2. Nothing wrong with you
No.24975
Already up to 0.974f, can't wait to see how far we go into the alphabet this time.
No.24977
Did Oni say anything about what the goal of the game will be?
Will there be pregnancy?
When will I get a teenage version of Storm to fuck?
No.24979
>>24975
F already? Jeez..how long can we get 0.974 Alpha, Beta..all the way to Omega?
No.24987
How can someone get so much money and do so little.
How is anyone still funding him
No.24989
>>24987
he's an artist, not a programmer
he is legit learnign how shit works as he programs
backers get free porn drawn all the time so it's ok if thats what you want
I'm considering not funding him any more until you can fuck kitty since this game is all I fund him for and I've put in over 40 dollars by now
No.24990
>>24989
There's thousands of petabytes of free porn on the internet available right now that doesn't require funding someone a good wage to add background art of a bedroom in to the game after 6 months
No.24991
>>24990
its not the art I want, its the game
the decent art is a bonus
No.25006
No.25026
>>25006
2 minutes in on a new game and it's already buggier than 0.974e.
Bra-fucking-vo Oni.
No.25044
I haven't had a bit of trouble with it.
Someone said they found this in the game.
No.25054
How to unlock the "Plan Omega" on Xavier when he summons the player and Rogue to his office?
No.25055
>>25006
>>25026
>>25044 (checkers)
can you go to Kittys room and take her on dates yet?
No.25057
No.25058
when you have level 5 you unlock the "Plan Omega"
No.25070
No.25071
No.25075
>>25044
Yeah, the files for it are there but there's a good bit of editing needed to get the pussy and asshole to show.
No.25084
>>25054
You need to be able to have complete control over your touch, usually level 6 or 7 is enough points have that.
No.25101
>>25044
Set config.developer = True (enables console)
Open the game then press "Shift+O"
input "jump Kitty_Sex_Launch"
No.25172
Is there a console command to disable the diagnostic messages?
No.25303
This one should be relatively minor stuff, some lingering issues with the public sex system should be ironed out. I've been working on the next version already, I made a change to the way backgrounds are loaded that should make them a bit more natural, did some fixes to Kitty's BJ pose, and I'm working on the sex animations everyone's wanted. There should be some interesting story developments on that one too. If this build is reasonably stable over the next day or so we can call it the "stable" build, so give it a once-over and make sure nothing new's popped up.
Mac: https://mega.nz/#!zhQQkDDY!oex2Osl0ITLpsuqJnZGFlDnovFMSSZqgvMaEpuFBAn8
Lınux: https://mega.nz/#!2xRDXaSB!7sMRyA55plqWY7XxGqi_cZi2WwhHoXazrqkbHyt1hKA
Windows: https://mega.nz/#!fg5CBbqL!yvzLTm-_amvwRmtMHMG7vsFd3NSnWXRbK6p72-aa0p8
No.25579
No.25617
No.25684
Does anyone have a android version of this? I have an old outdated one bud I'd like the new version
No.26333
>>25101
Where exactly do you add that line?
No.26362
>>26332
>>26333
-game folder-/renpy/common/00console.rpy
Should be on line 97 or there about.
No.27389
12 Oct update
>Ok, I really should have posted something sooner. I'm a terrible procrastinator. I have been answering any questions that have popped up, but I get that most people aren't reading all the comments so they don't see all that. I wish I were better at the social media type stuff, but it's really not in my nature, but I try. ;)
>The good news is, the next update has been going along well. For those that hadn't paid attention to the version 0.974 beta releases, it seems to be in a reasonably strong place right now, a few issues, but nothing really showstopping, so for a while now I've been working on the next version. Version 0.974 is the one that includes the new location-based system to better handle the girls entering and leaving the room, changing their clothes as the situation dictates, etc. It also includes fondling animations for Kitty (and scenes to go with that), female interaction hands for when they're feeling up themselves or each other, some new background graphics, Xavier's Study as a location that has some interesting interaction options, Kitty's chit-chat dialog options, and probably some other stuff. You can pick that up right now in version 0.974j.
>The next version I'm working on will probably take a few more weeks for the first release, but I've already finished Kitty's sex and anal animations, I'm working on the connecting scenes for that right now. I still need to do a little art like cumshots, and I need to get some clothes for her, because right now that graphic doesn't have any. I also expect that release to have several relationship scenes for Kitty to build out her character a bit more. Maybe some other stuff.
>I'm still looking for some artists to work on clothing for the characters, other stuff like that, so any recommendations would be welcome.
No.28919
No.28923
>>28919
Probably not, Oni is just very slow and hesitant to report his progress
I might be wrong tho
No.28924
>>28923
Some say he's still bugfixing Kitty's face to this day
No.28938
>>28924
Oni bugfixing something before the first release? Really?
Knowing how he is, get ready to get versions with 2 letters, because the bugfixes will be too much to count.
No.29173
>>24865
Just some things I've encountered.
TROUBLESHOOTING:
>Fixed an issue with characters cleaning cum off after agreeing to leave it on, let me know if this happens again, and how it plays out.
I've actually experienced the opposite. I was running low love (near 0) and high obedience/inhibitions, and when I was still developing things in that direction, Kitty would often refuse to leave cum on, but then it would still stay on.
2. When I piss off Kitty (through flirt menu for example) she storms off. If however she's been set to follow me first, then when I go to a new room she'll be there to storm off. Every room I go to.
SUGGESTIONS:
1. It's possible at some point to get the girls to wear ridiculously slutty things outside. It seems like it would be interesting to get some responses from the outside on that.
2. It's possible to get cum on a girl's face, get her to leave it there, take her to class and do something that would get you sent off to Xavier. Then you're there, with the girl still with cum on her face. It seems like after his preach maybe he should sometimes notice and say something about that.
Just some thoughts.
No.29184
>>29173
Somehow, I don't think this is where you put bugreports and suggestions for the developer. Unless he reads this thread regularly in case some (non-paying) anon decides to report a bug…
No.29230
>>27389
I haven't played the game since 0.972b, is it worth to play 0.974j or wait for something else, looks like Oni is just finishing Kitty.
No.29280
I thought our character would enslave the girls using the side effect of addiction of his powers but that seems to only affect rogue. if you try do a love route that should be fine, but if you go for slave route, aside from rogue, the girls have no reason to not just stay away and ignore you
No.29290
>>29280
Pretty sure addiction is supposed to effect everyone.
It's a part of his power, isn't it?
If it was just rogue lusting for skin-contact, then you wouldn't be able to level up and make it stronger.
No.29291
>>29280
Kitty should definitely have some physical dom/"choke me daddy" content in the game, thought of that right when we meet her and grab her arm/hug her. This way we can make her addicted as she starts liking the inability to phase from you.
Thinking about that, making every girl route unique because of your powers is kinda hard. What would make the other girls addicted? Blocking mind reading from Jean/Emma, stoping Storm from flying and messing with weather? Kek.
No.29295
>>29291
Blocking mind-reading could be a viable option according to some fiction on the topic (as it makes you a sort of enigma for someone who can read anyone else like an open book), though "addiction" to it would involve some complicated psychology. (And having to explain why Professor X doesn't have the same effect on her would further complicate the matter…)
No.29308
>>29295
Blocking mind reading could be as simple as the MC is soothing to be around because he blocks out the constant background noise.
No.29329
>>29308
Wouldn't she need to touch him for that to work?
No.29338
>>29291
Emma would be better as a dominant partner imo.
No.29339
>>29329
He might be giving off a field or in game mechanics terms it might be a power-up that he gives off a field.
Or maybe if she tries her powers on him it doesn't straight up nullify but reflects back and causes a strange effect that releases feel good chemicals in her brain. Making him addictive.
No.30184
Any patrons wanna share the update post?
No.30187
>>30184
Hey guys, I included a screenshot this time in the file section below. I tried to include it as an image but for some reason it refused, even though it's just a standard jpg. Weird. Anyway, it now shows Kitty in her sexy new pose, fully clothed! A few more outfit pieces are still coming in for her, and I need to finish up the yoga pants for the default costume, and finish up her relationship scenes as well, and then it's on to final testing for this build. I hope you all really enjoy it, I had a lot of fun putting it together.
No.30189
>>30187
>foot shit
And any hope I had for this game has just been lost. Maybe I'll come back in a year to see what's changed but this is stupid. I will never understand feet fetishes.
No.30190
>>30189
you do realize you dont have to do it, right?
No.30192
>>30187
But can we smash yet?
No.30199
>>30187
I'm not even a footfag, but those feet are cute as fuck
No.30200
>>30199
I'm not even posting this, but your post is retarded as fuck.
No.30204
>>30192
As far as I know, this update is supposed to be the one that brings kitty up to par with Rogue in terms of functionality.
So probably yes
No.30205
>>30204
Oh, and as for a timeframe, Oni says probably within two weeks
No.30211
Isn't it funny how whenever there's a game like this where there's a main girl, in this case Rogue, where people ALWAYS want to fuck some side character more?
Like Loli…I mean Lola in Princess Trainer, another example.
Main girls are shit.
No.30212
>>30211
I actually like rogue more then kitty. I just want kitty to be complete so we can get some good threesomes. not the hovering hands that we already have.
No.30281
>>30212
Don't hold your breath. This is the perfect example of why I asked you about a roadmap for your game's development. I get Oni is a one-man crew and isn't really a coder, but how long has it been since he teased that third heroine?
No.30474
has anyone gotten this to work on windows 10? keep getting exception errors on it
No.30478
>>30474
I couldn't remotely tell you how to fix it but yeah it works fine for me.
Maybe your anti-virus is blocking bits of it when you unblock it?
Or all the compatibility error jazz.
No.30486
>>30211
everyone gets tired of fucking the same girl over and over anon.
No.30490
>>29339
Can we finally fuck kitty yet. Hasn't it been 2 years since she has been introduced
No.30492
>>30474
>has anyone gotten this to work on windows 10
Yeah all you gotta do is unstall this shit system and get a proper win7 you nigger
No.30493
>>30474
First time I've ever heard of (regular) Ren'Py game not working anywhere at all. This stuff doesn't have problems even in Wine (meaning Linux users don't really need a native build to play).
>>30492
Hear, hear
No.30495
>>30478
>I couldn't remotely tell you how to fix it but yeah it works fine for me.
yeah no clue what the issue is. I double click the icon, nothing happens. I check processes: it starts up but then disappears. Ok check the event log: gives a generic error that doesn't help for shit
>>30492
>>30493
I wish but I have to keep windows bot net shit edition due to work: our organization uses win 10 so I need to use the same for when I build images or sys prep at home
No.30498
>>30495
forgot to add that I do have a virtual environment for win 7 but it's a pain to spin up a VM every time you just want to fap. Also I don't have issues with other renpy games, just this one
No.30502
>>30495
>check the event log: gives a generic error that doesn't help for shit
Maybe share it anyway? Better chance to get a response like that. Also Ren'Py games have a trace option (if you run the game in cmd with -h, usage help is printed).
>our organization uses win 10
Maybe only use it for when you have to work? Me, I wouldn't let that stuff anywhere closer to my home PC than in a virtual machine…
No.30542
Man, I can't even find anywhere that'll sell me Win7 anymore.
I want to upgrade to a new PC, but it's looking like 10 is my only option.
Fuckin win10, what a pile of shit.
No.30545
>>30542
Dude, just install Ubuntu or get a win7 install off the pirate bay. It's not that hard.
No.30556
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No.30616
what did the add frin 0.972 to 0.973?
No.30657
>>30616
nothing
>>23298
lmao fam
No.31037
It sickens me how a simple game can be delayed 10000 years.
No.31068
>still no new update
What the fuck/
No.31098
>>15444
>I'm not going to go anywhere with this project lol dumfuk patrons trust me for some reason
*goes somewhere*
>no new content for half a year
>>16764
>after kitty
lel
Why can't we have an actual lewd vidya industry like japen? I'm certain there wouldn't be a lack of customers…
No.31099
>>31098
probably something to do with the stigma behind it in the western world, we treat porn as something that needs to be hidden and not talked about
No.31105
>>31099
>East
>H circles develop games using RPG maker, 3D animations, traditional 2D, VNs. A wide variety going into loli, NTR, vanilla, monstergirls and other fetishes. Some create their own simple engines that run in flash to play the game.
>While some games do follow a "genre" (2D side scrolling for instance), each dev has their own take on it, with simple 2D sprites if you lose to full blown CG if you win.
>Main sites like DLsite rank by popularity, so if something does well like Liru or Teaching Feeling, the artist does get a good share of the money for the hard work they've put in.
>Game is released fully in one part, DLsite doesn't accept multi-staged releases unless it's DLC or add-ons for the already completed base game.
>The Devs have to put the game on the site in order to get paid. DLsite has a refund policy as well if you get ripped off or get screwed over.
>Product > Money > Dev satisfaction.
>West
>Dominated by incest games because that's all people can come up with. Things like NTR, corruption and dating sims designed to blue-ball.
>Everyone is following the leader. You can trace aspects of certain games to progenitors. (Trainers to Akabur, bad 3D renders to Ariane, corruption and furry stuff to CoC?) Actual original ideas get drown out among a sea of copy pasted clones.
>Tools used are always the same. Renpy, RPG maker, Diaz, honey select for renders. The people who make such games lack the understanding to produce these games in a professional setting, hence you see so many first time artists and coders setting up a patreon.
Those that do have skills are people you need to draw to your project.
>Speaking of which, biggest problem is Patreon. You hand over money first, then get the product second. That's the opposite of DLsite and is just bad business altogether.
>Instead of releasing a completed project, the monthy payments of patreon encourage creators to bleed money out of you. You often end up spending more money on them month by month than you would on a one time payment at DLsite. Which is how you get 0.1, 0.2, 0.3 etc.
>Patreon has no protectors for the person paying, other than a charge-back from you bank. But do you want to tell them you've been supporting a lazy ass person for six months only for your dumb ass to get caught up when he took a hike? There a alot of project current;y that exist sorely for the sake of generating money for a person. They have no end date, no final version, bare effort every month made by the creator. Yet you still pledge because you think that will somehow make them get off their arse.
>Money > Dev satisfaction >Product.
>You pay first, they get use to doing nothing for months, then shit out something barely done.
No.31109
>>31105
tl;dr
>East
>Product > Money > Dev satisfaction.
>West
>Money > Dev satisfaction > Product.
Also, I'd cap it if it wasn't for your fuck up there.
>>31099
Japs have fucking organization when it comes to this because it's actually a business. It's not something that you actually want to talk over there either, at least no casually and you're better off with people not finding out, specially if you're out of highschool, and guess what? The industry knows and it usually gives you things like escape or mute buttons. They've been doing this for more than 20 years so they know what they are doing, and instead of following through, they try to do it's own shit even though the Japs have the perfect model.
No.31234
This guy sucks at updating. He wants more pateron bucks right? Why would anyone donate to him when he doesn't even do an update post once a month?
No.31244
>>31234
"Uhhh muh artwork"
No.31273
>>31234
For the same reason someone might continue paying for Netflix even if they don't use it for three months; it automatically renews and isn't enough money to be worked up over (for most people, at least)
These Patreon whores make 99% of their money by the apathy of their "fans"
No.31292
>I just wanted to let you all know how thankful I am for the support you've given me over this year. I'm not great at expressing that as well as I should, but it really does amaze me how much faith you've given me and this project. I hope I've done my best to justify that faith. I've expanded my team to include a handful of other artists, and a writer to help me flesh out some of the content, and hopefully that will lead to faster and more feature-rich updates.
>
>The next version should be out in the next few days, version 976 (there will be no 975, for reasons). It will include sex scenes for Kitty with her new pose, as well as relationship building scenes like those Rogue has. It also includes various other tweaks, like yoga pants, a new body for her BJ scenes that hopefully fits a bit better, and maybe a few other things that I forgot weren't in the last build.
>
>As for even further down the line, there are a number of other scenes that I'm still fleshing out, like a Rogue exhibitionism scene, and footjob options for the girls. I'm also halfway through Emma's base sprite, and plan to have her in the game by the end of the year (although she certainly won't have all her options available yet). I hope you guys approve of the design I went with. I like it.
>
>Anyway, it should be an exciting few months ahead, and I can't wait for you to experience it all. Thank you again for your support, I can't imagine where I would be today without it.
>
>–
>
>Next few days hopefully!
No.31293
>>31292
>Extra artists to help with clothing.
>An extra writer to help out with scenes.
>Still no extra coder to help put it all together.
Achilles Heel if I ever saw one. As like before…
I can wait.
I've been waiting so long that I've grown a beard.
No.31294
Is he going to enable creampies for rouge? They are in the game files just not in the game itself.
No.31299
>>31293
>50 years had passed
>Yet Oni hasn't updated
No.31300
>>31299
and in the end Emma Frost never really existed.
No.31308
>I'm also halfway through Emma's base sprite, and plan to have her in the game by the end of the year
No.31315
>>31293
You have forgotten your purpose!
No.31331
>>31293
well, from Oni's point of view I can understand not getting a coder…
Oni doesn't know how to code, so he's learning as he goes along with the game, if he hired a coder, he'd very quickly get to a point where he couldn't make the game without said coder anymore… the art and writing he could do himself if those people quit, but if a coder got flaky he'd be up a creek
No.31372
>>31331
How long has he been working on it? Two years? I'm pretty sure he's learned enough to fix (or remove) unfinished code made by some coder who "got flaky".
Also, I remember checking out his patreon at some point before and seeing some kid saying "I'll be studying how to code soon, gonna help you after that" to which Oni said "okay". So either the kid flunked the coding course (which is unlikely if he's not a total moron) or Oni refused his help.
No.31378
>>31372
Or the kid found out he could just make screenshots in a japanese porn game do the coding he would have gotten no money for, and then start milking Patreon bucks of his own?
No.31380
I'd have loved to get Storm in the game, and give that black pussy the attention it deserves
No.31383
>>31331
>Oni doesn't know how to code, so he's learning as he goes along with the game
He is learning for over 2 years?
Damn he must be a really slow learner
No.31396
>>31380
My nigga
Would love to see Storm too
No.31434
Bug version boyz
Rogue-Like 0.976 (Do Not Download)
(aka "Fuck it, we're doing it live!" edition)
Don't download anything until reading all of this post. I fully expect this to be a very buggy version, it is not for people who just want a smooth play experience. It is intended for people who enjoy playing broken, buggy games, and finding the bugs. ;) If you just want to have fun with the game, probably give it a week or so, I'll give an all-clear when we've figured out a relatively stable build.
That said, this is the new version of the game. It includes Kitty's sex scenes, as well as her relationship scenes. I've tested them, but not under every possible situation. If a dialog sequence seems out of place, let me know, especially if you get an error message, let me know. Also, Kitty has a new pair of yoga pants, at patron request.
I'd hoped to use the new version of Renpy for this one, but I tried it and it broke the game from the start. I'll try to get that working but I think it would mean overhauling a bunch of stuff and didn't want to put this off any longer.
Just a reminder, if you do get errors, or just something that doesn't feel right, you can post here or PM me about it. If you get an error message you can copy/paste or screengrab the error message, I do not need the "full traceback" portion of the error unless I ask for it, there's usually a ton more there than I need, the first portion is usually enough to figure out what went wrong.
Windows version only because I'm too lazy to download/upload the others: https://mega.nz/#!AS5xUZKA!v2vtNZM3PeN5jzb9axmnvH_-KGO-OfRDy0xWr6AKGfs
No.31451
>>31434
>I get so much eat i feel compel to release completely broken stuff to appease the cow funding crowd.
No.31461
>>31451
Don't make fun of him, it's a working business model – Micro$oft has been doing this for decades (and a few years ago they actually fired all their testers bc they decided to make users do all the testing).
No.31463
>>31434
well so far the only time i had an error message is if she becomes too obedient and opens the relationship that way. Game wont allow it.
No.31509
Aw fuck sake the error messages are pretty crippling for me.
I was trying to force fuck Kitty in the ass while Rogue was there, managed to get her hotdogging and was about to do it.
Error, forever error loop.
Okay fuck it reload save.
Error.
Every save I load in this version comes up with an error after a few selections.
This is using older saves I think, it automatically loaded them…can not be bothered starting the whole game again if that's the problem.
No.31511
>>31510
I was getting it if I did anything after that point though, fucked her in the pussy and the ass, that was fine.
Ass next day.
Day after that constant errors began no matter what save I used.
No.31551
Had an error when I relaunched the game just now. K_Gag wasn't declared.
Couldn't do shit, cause all actions seems to use it.
If this happens, just go in the console and type K_Gag = 0
You'll create the variable K_Gag and it'll stop bugging as fk.
No.31552
>>31551
Btw, it works because I know that the K_WhateverShitYouPutBehind is nearly always a number. But if it's an object, well, you're fcked.
No.31560
bugfix A is already out, too, but the post is patron only.
No.31565
It's around for download in the usual places, downloading it now will see if it actually functions.
While this game is far from perfect, at least the dev is pretty quick with fixes and updates in general even if they don't add much.
No.31569
No.31570
>>31569
How about a mega link and not some bullshit virus ridden shit?
No.31572
>>31569
yeah, how about a link from somewhere that doesn't make me wait 40 minutes for this tiny game, the fuck
No.31575
>>31570
>>31572
If you can find one then post it. So far this was all I could find.
No.31576
I get small games like this from pornplay, only took me 14 minutes to download.
Decent enough when you can't be bothered waiting for a mega.
Anyway update seems to have fixed the borking, managed to fuck Kitty in the ass while Rogue was there…although Rogue would only kiss her so that was kind of a bummer.
Kitty also mentions a calender or something you can write stuff on and she'll do it? Guessing that's not actually implemented yet.
If this game has complete animations for the text, like the girls licking each other while you fuck them and stuff it'll be fucking great. Hopefully it gets to that point.
But lets be real, not fucking likely with the track record of Patreon.
No.31577
>>31576
>only took me 14 minutes to download
14 minutes for less than 40 mb is fucking awful dude.
No.31578
>>31575
Buyfag here. I'm uploading it to mega atm. I got shit up rates though will post when it's done.
No.31579
No.31582
No.31653
God dammit
My rogue bugged out so she always walks around fucking depressed
I'M SORRY OK!
No.31659
>>31653
That's kinda hot actually.
No.31661
>>31653
Happened to me too
It was supper wierd when she offered a bj like this
Try reloading a save
No.31697
is there anything to do on Xavier's Study ?
No.31702
>>31653
i would be pretty depressed too if i was addicted to an anons cock and he treated me as a slave.
No.31725
>>31710
How do you max out obedience like this?
I cant advance with kitty
No.31733
Anyone got a clue why the game doesn't open? The old build used to but doesn't anymore either. I see the process appear then it just dies.
No.31735
>>31733
It did not like my controller being plugged in.
No.31738
>rouge-kike
So this dude is actually a jew?
i though the name was just random kike-naming but after playing the recent version, i noticed that he had given kitty a star of david necklace.
Is anyone else disapointed the sex animations with kitty aren't doggy like it's with rouge?
though i still like how the scene and animation ended up being.
No.31739
No.31741
>>31577
Yeah I know, it was one of those "you can only download at 50kb/s" sort of deals but I didn't really care, by the time I went and done a piss and got some food it was done.
Only reason I feel those sites have any merit what so ever.
When you have to download something like 900MB it's worse than being a Syrian. Probably anyway.
No.31742
i'm getting this glitch with the newest version. after saving a game and loading it every interaction with either kitty or rogue brings up this error and i cant get around it
where is this R_Gag for rogue and K_Gag for kitty and how do i fix this?
No.31744
>>31739
>Kitty is Jewish
Oh wow, ok.
I don't really care about x men or any other marvel fantasy shit thing, but i gotta admit, his art is really good and true to the original tv series.
No.31745
>>31551
>>31552
oh im a retard, didnt read the thread. h-how do i open console though?
sage for being a dumbass
No.31756
>>31745
Anon, it's time you read it.
<CTRL+F console
<3rd result
No.31900
No.32068
No.32077
>>32068
You actually believe there could be something new?
No.32079
>>32068
kitty sex, new look for blowjob and handjob. And some small stuff for rouge I think
No.32180
>fugging kitty's ass
>"Can we do something else"
>Suggest BJ even though rogue always basically goes "I'm sure you meant to say handjob because your dick was just in my ass"
>Kitty has the same dialogue
>Then Rogue teleports behind her and starts stroking my other, foreground dick.
>Kitty notices that I'm getting a handy from rogue while my dick is still in her ass and starts masturbating
I had wanted threesomes to be more than a floating hand or tongue animation but this is not what I had in mind.
Worth noting that suggesting a handy in the first place doesn't cause any issues - I'm guessing Oni or renpy doesn't into OOP.
>Rogue still has some inappropriate mouth-shapes when she gives the succ
>kitty doesn't dance or have a titjob equivalent yet
No.32244
No.32247
>>32180
She barely has tits for a titjob, anon….it's not fun if the breasts can barely cover your dick.
No.32248
>>32247
That's why I said titjob equivalent. Obvious guess from her sex pose is footjob.
>>32244
I think, if you can get to your room without triggering the error, that there is an option under tutorial that checks variables just for this sort of purpose.
No.32250
>>32180
Oni can barely into coding in general let alone OOP. A few releases back he was adding Kitty's interactions into the game and he completely fucking wrecked himself because instead of writing a method to cover sex interactions, he copy and pasted the code for Rogue's sex interactions and manually changed variables, except he missed a ton and it left the game in an essentially unplayable state due to crashes.
No.32257
>>32180
Ren'Py allows using Python code, and Python has all OOP you'll ever need. But TBH you don't really need OOP here, just some general coding know-how (which Oni doesn't have and never bothered to try getting, apparently).
No.32262
>>32250
>>32257
>implying OOP is anything but a hindrance
Good one, lads.
No.32287
>>32262
< >>32257
< >implying OOP is anything but a hindrance
Actually I didn't; I just don't feel like breaking lances with proponents of, er, mainstream coding doctrine in a porn game thread.
No.32289
>>32257
Issue is that the Renpy Engine has some weird quirks to do with variable storage that makes OOP doable but potentially buggy. Creating objects was my first idea when I went into it, i thought fuck it, I'll generate all of the strings with python and use renpy.functions to output. Then I learned that it messes with a lot of Renpys features to do it that way.
Renpy as a language (or group of languages if you count ATL etc) is kind of all over the shop. The fact that it likes to rely on globals, goto statements and labels says it all.
Not that great things can't be made with it, but for people new to programming it really does encourage heartache. All for the sake of keeping it easier for the non programmers too.
No.32314
>>32289
Huh… You mean like rollback/saves and stuff? Or just the default "out-of-the-box" behaviour?
As for gotos and labels, bear in mind that Ren'Py isn't a language for programming (while Python is, and you can use it from Ren'Py); it's a language to describe scenarios ("plays"), with main focus on dialogue rather than calculations. It's much easier to work with such things as named blocks ("chapters", so to speak) and simply switch between them rather than "call" them like procedures. You can think of it as working in continuation-passing style if that makes things easier for you.
As for using OOP, I suspect (haven't had enough free time to dabble deep into Ren'Py) that default data structures at least are supported properly and you can make do without arbitrary class hierarchies as long as you have those.
No.32375
No.32977
>>32375
thanks fam
any other info with that update or just "I made it less shit, probably"
No.33045
>>32180
Gonna be honest, this is hilarious.
No.34081
I'm guessing this game died.
No.34091
>>34090
Why does rogue check out the cripple?
No.34097
This game has so much missed potential.
Imagine if it had uniquely personal scenes where characters would use their mutations in sexual ways?
Like say Kitty could phase her hand up through the bed while you're sleeping and start playing with your dick.
Or shove her ass through the wall so you could covertly fuck her.
Never cared about Rogue so can't be bothered thinking of much she could do, steal powers that could be used in interesting ways…I guess.
Get Mystique in and have her transform in to whatever you have a fetish for.
Cool shit like that would have been amazing.
No.34110
>>34097
No, that sounds retarded.
No.34114
>>34110
y-you sound retarded
No.34118
He's been posting christmas updates on his patreon,someone care to share ?
No.34121
Here's the $1 post
>Here's a little preview of the new girl coming to the game, Emma Frost. She'll be added as a teacher to the game, and a bit standoffish at first, but you'll be able to melt her over time. I hope to have her in a cameo role in a version by the end of the month, but her full implementation will be rolled out over the coming months. Right now I have her base sprite mostly working, with a few clothing options (though not the full set), and a basic intro scene, but most of her actual content and infrastructure still needs setting up.
>I'm providing a special preview for my $15+ subscribers, because they haven't gotten much in a while, and I'll also offer a slightly different preview to my new $3 subscribers. I don't plan to do that often, so don't necessarily rush to that price in hopes of a long term thing, but I did want to reward the gesture people made during Patreon's recent fuckup. If you're at the $1 level, don't worry, it's nothing you won't be seeing for yourself once Emma's implemented. ;)
No.34123
>>34121
Awh yeh boi. You are my nigga.
No.34126
>>34121
>kitty still has a ton of work to do
>HERE'S ANOTHER GIRL
What the fuck
No.34127
>>34097
yo didn't pay attention to the story, did you?
the power of the protagonist cancels the powers of other mutants by just touching them
No.34128
>>34121
Can't wait to fuck those titties in 2 years.
No.34129
>>34127
Come to think of it, yeah…
The consequences of Kitty shoving her ass through the wall for MC to fuck would not be pretty.
No.34132
>>34127
I did actually, I just think that's stupid.
It literally only exists to make Rogue fuckable so there could have been other parts to it like he does it at will.
Also how the fuck does Xavier talk to him then? His power shouldn't work on him at all but the game never notes that only Rogue or Kitty hears him.
Proof that it's a shit plot point.
Fucking Kitty through the wall would be awesome.
Especially if you wanted to cheat on Rogue and do it while she was sleeping in bed or something, good potential for scenes with stuff like that.
Otherwise mutations are pretty irrelevant.
No.34140
>>34132
His TOUCH disables powers, not his existence. Xavier never needs to touch him to talk to him telepathically.
I can see how you think it's stupid since you don't even understand how it works
No.34148
>>34140
Isn't the whole point of being there learn to use your powers? What if you learn to turn it off or the area of effect? Then you can fuck through walls.
No.34179
>>34121
That's some nice fucking art can't wait to…>>34128
No.34199
>>34132
Is the game called rogue like or kitty like?
Think bout it retard, if you can that is.
No.34202
>>34199
>thread title is Rouge-kike
maybe you do a little thingkin retared
No.34205
>>34202
Le Hungry Fish.
Cute.
No.34210
>>34148
Exactly.
>>34140
Yeah, so why isn't it just where a person is touched? Basically Kitty could shove her ass through the wall and rather than her whole power going off just the sections of her he's actually touching are no longer intangible.
It's not been said either way how it works, so why the fuck not.
Tell me stuff like that wouldn't be more interesting than broken scenes where a single chick can be fingering her ass, while having her ass fucked, while jerking off the same dick that's fingering her, while using a vibrator on her clit, while licking another girls pussy, while kissing another girl.
If you find the idea of that contorted mess of human flesh more sexy then therapy is probably on the horizon for you friend.
No.34248
>>34140
It is not his touch, he is immune to mutant powers. There's a scene where he's training in the danger room and he's hit by Cyclops' eye beam and unfazed.
No.34254
>>34248
Wait what, I don't remember that.
That makes even less sense then since Xavier shouldn't be able to talk to him telepathically…
But yeah I hope in future there's some sort of perk system where you can unlock new parts of his mutation, like being able to cut off someone's power for a time so Xavier can be shut up from a distance.
Then you could do the same to Rogue and make her the whore she wants to be.
(In case nobody has guessed, I don't like Rogue)
Wonder if X-23 will ever show up, not that her powers are of interest to anything I've mentioned.
No.34264
>>34254
script Locations.rpy, line 936
>" During the exercise, Cyclops accidentally shoots you. Luckily you're immune to the beams, but your clothes weren't so lucky."
No.34266
>>34254
he'd have to be into loli but she's part of the continuity if only from the comics but then the lolitards will come like they did with book 3 of FET so i mean all up to him really
No.34280
>>34254
…In that case, perhaps it's his *skin* that disables effects of powers upon contact (or at least that's how his ability triggers)?
No.34301
>Kitty phases through a wall
>Zero touches her and her power fails.
>Slicedinhalf.jpg
Yeah, his powers are fucking inconsistent as hell, but whatever.
No.34302
Emma Frost looks great but I wish he finished up Kitty first and maybe gave us more content for the two girls before moving onto another one? I mean, I would love to see some more outfits for the two girls.
No.34309
>>34302
Last time I checked, compared to Rogue, Kitty took insanely long to get her points anywhere (without outright cheating, I mean); I've been kinda hoping it'd be fixed at some point.
No.34315
>>34309
>kitty takes insanely long compared to rogue
In earlier versions, sure. Now she has enough lewd options to actually get things moving despite starting with lower stats than Rogue. While >>32180 is showing off a bug, I didn't cheat to get her to do anal two days after being introduced.
>>34302
>more outfits
also more location events.
Especially the erotic simulations teased in the intro.
No.34321
It feels hard to crack Kitty. What do you have to do to get her while also keeping Rogue around? Like threesomes and the like.
No.34322
>>34321
Call her up when you're with Rogue? That usually works but she got to be willing or else she'd run off.
No.34323
>>34322
I gotta get her to the point where she's willing is the thing. Flirted with her, until she was accepting, and then suddenly got rejected out of nowhere. How did everyone else do it?
No.34326
>>34323
…I just keep at it. I don't even know how I did it.
No.34328
>>34323
Wait..you tried up until you get to fuck her?
No.34331
>>34328
Nah, I've been flirting with Kitty, and basically turning Rogue into a waifu cockcleaner. Can't move to really do much of anything with Kitty though.
No.34332
>>34331
Need to work on some more then.
No.34341
>>34332
Fuck that fam, I just figured out how to open the console using unren.
No.34355
For anyone wanting to know how to fug Kitty. Buy her books first, this is only 50+ but makes life easier. You can make her accept touching her more often like that. Save scum each time she gets mad at you and or do it in different locations. She'll warm up eventually. The remainder can come from taking her on dates, when you get that ability at least. Just save before every action and hope for the best. Shouldn't take more than a week of effort to get her to be yours.
No.34367
>>34266
For X-23? Aren't the designs based on X-Men Evolution? I remember X-23 being a teen in that. Maybe she was actually like 14 or something but I'm sure a little age adjustment wouldn't be too radical.
<searches
Oh she's…significantly uglier than I remember…but she has tits so…GAME.
>>34280
I mean I guess but then surely Xaviers mind powers have to go through his skin too?
That's actually a really odd power like if Magneto chucked a metal beam at him would it fuck him up or just bounce off because it was moved with Magneto's power even though he didn't actually generate it?
I feel like something interesting could be done with his power, more interesting than the "addiction" thing anyway.
No.34381
>>34321
Basically two paths I've found.
Always buy and gift each book first.
Then there's the lovey dovey route and the bdsm/desire route. The first is flirt (touch face) //studying. The other route is slapping her ass and giving her dildo's/vibrators.
You think it's bad when she gets angry at the gift? Think again. Although it will lower her love, it will increase her sluttiness anyways. And since you don't spend it, you can try to gift it again every day, each time increasing her sluttiness (inhibitions).
Goes pretty fast that way.
No.34388
The anon that used to do the cheat mods still around? I miss having Rogue hate fuck me, and kinda want to hate fuck Kitty too.
If anything does anyone know the code they used to do it? Can probably just do it myself.
No.34398
Does the 'you can set their calendar' stuff actually do anything? As far as I can tell, there's no way to actually access their phones.
No.34401
>>34388
Look up UnRen, and the f95 forum page for Rogue-like, which has a ton of codes for it.
No.34406
>>34367
Well maybe it does pass through skin, if it works akin to radiowaves. But there's no point of interaction there.
>>34388
Don't see a point in cheat trainers for Ren'Py games, since it's easy to get Python REPL with direct access to game variables (set config.console=True in renpy/common/00console.rpy, then shift+o at any point in the game; dir() lists the variables, in this game you want ones like R_Inbt, R_Obed & R_Love)
No.34411
>>34406
The anon that did the mod I'm talking about had it so you just click and drag on the different stats to adjust them. Which was great, because I didn't have to open up console. Could all be done with the mouse.
No.34588
12/29 update
>So the end of the year is winding down, and I've promised to get Emma out to you in some form within the year. That actually looks like it'll happen, although I still need to test a few things. I wanted to give you guys some more insight into how I developed this game, and why certain things take the time they do.
>I started brainstorming this concept, I knew that I wanted to make a game, but I didn't have a fixed concept in mind. After some brainstorming I ended up with the Rogue-Like concept because I figured that it was relatively untapped and cool IP at the time, and a flexible enough setting to allow multiple girls to show up along the way. I'd never done any programming before (not really, anyway), and while I knew that I'd wanted to eventually have multiple girls in the game, I didn't know what that would necessarily mean from a design standpoint.
>So I started building Rogue, and the entire time I tried to keep in mind how her features could be expanded to include another girl in the action. Even so, by the time I got started on Kitty, I realized I had a lot of work to do. Certain things that could be assumed with only one girl in the picture got a lot more complicated with two, like trying to display both at once without them overlapping too much, or making sure that they were aware of each others' presence in the room.
>If I'd just made a completely separate mode that was just Kitty doing all the things Rogue could do, it would have been a lot simpler, but my goal was to eventually have a lot of interaction, and I spent a lot of last year designing systems to allow for that, and that meant rebuilding large chunks of the game.
>So now I've started in earnest building the systems to allow Emma to be added to the mix. I've already adapted most of the core functions of the game to take her into account, and when I added the systems for Kitty, I tried to design them as best I could to be expandable like that. Once I've got three rolling, four or more should be easy from a code design standpoint, but I still need to get in and make some tweaks to various systems to make sure they work right.
>Emma also presents a slight special challenge in that she's a teacher, not a student, so while every room in the game is designed to have only two active characters in it at a time, in the classroom she can be a third in a special role, and I'm still working out the best way to handle that. I'm also trying to figure out the best way to include many girls in the game so that you don't keep getting the same ones showing up all the time, or never see one of them, etc. I need to figure out the best ways to give the ones you want priority for appearances.
>That work will be the next thing I work on on the programming side, as well as adding some of Emma's basic sex scene coding. I'm probably also going to change the UI a bit, let me know which stats you'd most like to see added to the basic screen UI, and also what I should add to a "character sheet" style UI when I get around to that.
>On the art side, Emma's base sprite is mostly done, I still need to make more clothing options, some hair options, some "special effects," that sort of thing. Then I need to make up the base artwork for her various sex scene options, and will likely turn a lot of the clothing for those poses over to some of my friends that have been working on the project. At the moment they are working on stuff like some new backgrounds, and some new clothing sprite options I want to try out. We'll see how that goes.
>2018 should be a really cool year for Rogue-Like, we'll see how long Emma takes to finish up, and I have new content to be added for Rogue and Kitty, and who knows, I might even have time to start on Laura. But first thing's first, winter is coming.
No.34591
>>34588
I do like how he's actually gotten help on minor stuff like backgrounds, clothes and odd dialog so he can focus on the core game.
Who's Laura though?
No.34593
Does anyone know where all the renpy files are stored? ever since I installed shit windows 10 the game crashes on me before even starting
No.34600
>>34593
If you mean system-wide folder for savegames & such, it's in the user folder. It's "/home/$USER/.renpy" on *nix and "C:/Users/%USER%/Application Data/RenPy" on the more usable windows IIRC. Though I can't vouch for its location in Win10 as I always stayed clear of this spyware OS.
No.34601
>>34592
I seriously hope that he uses the original EVO Laura instead of cheating with her 616/MvC incarnations. Gordon's designs outside of Rouge and Kitty don't get enough love in the R34 department.
No.34602
>>34601
>looking like a man
Why do you want a somewhat femine looking Nathan Explosion?
No.34603
>>34601
That's a harsh case of manface. It looks like someone took Gaston and gave him long hair.
No.34622
>>34602
You say like it's a bad thing.
No.34653
>>34603
>Clones tend to look like who they're cloned from.
wow
No.34656
>>34653
Wolverine is actually Gaston? It makes so much sense in retrospect.
No.34659
>>34601
If you shave this bitch's head, She will look like a tanned agent 47.
No.34664
>>34601
Can't wait to train a young John Redcorn.
No.34699
No.34703
>>34601
My name is not important; what is important is what I'm going to do.
No.34704
No.34705
>>34699
Thanks for the download link.
Confirm this is the new build, and of course, it's going to have bugs.
Encountered both Rogue & Emma in the classroom where Rogue will send me into the script error screen
I am confused as heck why Oni didn't use either Emma Frost's prototype design for Evolution (had it not been cancelled), or her appearance from "Wolverine & the X-Men" series…
No.34711
>>34703
I just fucking hate weg, and the patreon worms feasting on its carcass. My whole life is just cold, depraved fap, and I always wanted to wank violently.
No.34716
>>34699
what I got from this update is that emma is reallly thirsty
No.34722
What was the command in the console to enable the "cheat" menu? I don't mean enabling the console itself.
No.34723
Emma Frost Console Commands
>Clothes
E_Chest = 0 | 'corset'
E_Over = 0 | 'jacket'
E_Panties = 0 | 'white panties'
E_Legs = 0 | 'pants'
>Expressions
E_Brows= 'normal' | 'angry' | 'sad' | 'surprised'
E_Eyes= 'normal' | 'closed' | 'sexy' | 'surprised' | 'stunned'
E_Mouth= 'normal' | 'smile' | 'lipbite' | 'tongue' | 'surprised' | 'sad'
E_Blush = 0 | 1 | 2
No.34725
So what's actually new this update, just Emma appearing and doing nothing but flirting I guess?
No.34727
>>34705
holy fuck, those tits
shame it'll be over a year until we can get a titfuck from them
No.34728
>>34723
Post screenshot of Emma nude please
No.34729
>>34728
Forgot this:
>E_Arms= 0 | 'gloves'
No.34731
>>34723
Where exactly should i write this? I am kinda noob on these things.
No.34735
>>34731
First off you need to open (where you extracted game)/renpy/common/00console.rpy and change "config.console = False" to "config.console = True". In this case that's on line 108.
Now open the game, load the save, and press shift+O(o not zero). You're now in the console.
Use the same method for all renpy games.
No.34738
Sooo…any luck finding Miss Frost after her introduction? Any specific locations? Or is her intro all that's implemented for now?
No.34739
>>34738
as far as I know you can meet het in the classroom, but the game always crashes the second time you talk to her, and for some reason the game is reponding really slow now
No.34741
>>34739
Guess we have to wait for the next update..apparently there's no file for talking to her OR her leaving the class.
No.34743
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>34659
Reminds me of this
No.34744
>>34728
Ask and ye shall receive, don't and you shan't.
Although this was a really lazy request, but hey, who am I to refuse sharing naked ladies right?
No.34747
>>34723
>>34735
Well, ty very much for the explanations, but cant manage to make this work. I will wait the next release and hope that is not a complete bugged shit.
No.34751
>>34744
Holy tits. Those are really saggy though.
No.34754
>>34751
And what's wrong with that?
No.34755
>>34754
If she took her arms away from them they'd look completely flat, right into her body. He should have made her tits round, keep her hands at her waist and they can still have some sag though.
No.34756
>>34751
>>34754
Yeah, I mean, gravity is a thing. The bigger the boobs the saggier they get because, you know, physics happens. Now I know fake tits look great from the front, but once you see that massive scar under them it's kinda gross. Then again, these do seem a bit too saggy. Maybe some patrons will drop a suggestion, and if they do it's probably not a long or hard fix if Oni even wants to do that anyway. /shrug
No.34757
>>34756
Yeah but her boobs look really odd to me. As I said they look like if she moved her arms away they'd flop into her torso and look like fucked up tits, not normal at all or for that matter fake.
No.34758
>>34757
Yep I agree. I was just saying that some sag should be inevitable but that this is too much. Maybe I said too much and buried my actual statement in words. Heh.
No.34759
>>34758
She's still pretty hot though…really wish Oni would hurry up with the next update..
No.34760
>>34759
Yeah Oni is pretty slow on updates. The entire patreon market is slow, actually. Probably because not a single one of the "game" creators are actual programmers so they pass it off as working hard to push content while they take their time learning how code works.
But there is major props to give to Oni for his outstanding art style and the sheer depth of his project. Most people just make 1-dimensional shit with almost no cross-interaction between characters while this game tries to constantly include everything together.
No.34761
>>34760
Or they just pull a SlaveMaker, take lewd art as assets and call it a day (and some planned character never came up.)
No.34773
>>34767
Yeah. It also crashes if I try to talk to her after the initial meeting. I don't know how Oni pulled this off, but I would have at least hoped that he'd done even a basic gameplay first pass to check for bugs before releasing but apparently not.
No.34787
Emma choise was so random. Why no Jean or even Storm?
No.34789
game won't start on win 10, I get this line in the log
>Importing _renpysteam: ImportError('No module named _renpysteam',)
I just downloaded and extracted the game provided in the link. Any ideas?
No.34796
No.34798
>>34773
When she tries to leave, just as the other girls, she's set up to tell you where she's going so you can choose to join or get her to stay by calling a function that would be in Emma_Chat.rpy if it existed.
She's only got her introduction and whatever scenes you can trigger with the console.
No.34802
>>34773
Well he might have tried to but the more you add in the game (or any software, actually) the more likely you are to miss something.
In regular software programmers do automated tests (though it's a partial remedy since you have to rewrite them with the new version), and I personally make effort to limit change propagation so that there's less things to re-check (as you add new stuff, you can break what you have already by accident). But he's likely never heard of damage control in programming to begin with and has to check everything by hand.
No.34810
Before I play, do you have to something to get Emma, or is she like Kitty and just appears? Also what can you do with Emma, how far into it is it?
No.34811
>>34810
For meshe just appeared the next time iwent to the classrom. Beast was absent and puff…comes Sexy Frost.
You can't do much. Only the intro dialogue with few innuendos (and as someone said earlier…Miss. Frost is thirsty as a slav after New Years Eve)
No.34812
No.34865
>>34787
Less slutty and not as vulnerable to a nullifier.
No.34876
>>34802
No, the issue is his lack of programming knowledge. If he had used objects, all the girls could have had the same base functions. Nor are all the art assets for Frost in the archive yet, so copypasta of the other girls code would get him nowhere. Its the same old story, Oni needs to use some of that shill money to get a dev or work with one of the devs in the community.
No.34885
Anyone know when he'll post the next update
No.34906
>>34885
It's Oni, if it's a bugfix it'll be within a week, if it's an actual content update it'll be anywhere from the end of this month or the next.
No.34939
>>34876
<objects, objects everywhere
Just basic data structures (flat dictionaries, even) would do just fine. It's even possible to do without (though it'd require some heavy wizardry).
Regardless, I fail to see how his lack of programming education is more of a reason for buggy releases than faulty testing (which seems like a more *direct* cause to begin with).
No.34942
>>34939
You've missed my point. Emma Frost isn't bugged, its not complete. The only code there for her is her sprite code and her introduction. There is only about 30% of her planned art assets, no chat or leave code, no sex code, and copying all of that out of the rogue or kitty files wont do anything for you right now because of the way he coded it.
Using objects for the girls would have solved that, not some fucking dictionaries. I'm not making a case to make everything an object but, the girls clearly should have been made into a class since they all use the same base code, Rogue's. This would reduce the effort needed to add in new girls, allowing for a working version of that girl to be made with the bare minimum of art assets.
This is a mistake that someone with no experience in CS of development would make, which isn't a bad thing. What is bad is that this is a product that he is trying to shill, and it could be a good product with some extra guidance and work. But that won't happen as long as he continues to do this as a way to learn.
No.34954
>>34942
You're clearly underestimating what could be done with simple functions and data structures, and OOP isn't exactly necessary to operate on this level, while bringing in a certain amount of complexity by itself.
As for the basic level of language knowledge, someone just need to send him a link to a free Python course (like the one on CodeCademy – it's not that boring and can be completed in a few hours). That ought to solve the problem.
No.34968
.977a is up
>The primary goal on this version is that in the old version I'd gotten ahead of myself a bit and added Emma's schedule to the game, which was causing her to keep showing up in class, even though she's intended to be MIA after running the intro scene. This was causing a number of minor errors because essentially other elements (like her chat interface or her "I'm leaving the room" scenes) haven't been added yet. The new patch should stop her from showing up, and should remove her from any existing saves you might have, let me know if that's not the case (don't worry, she'll be back soon enough).
>I also made a tweak that might improve performance over the last build, if you noticed a slowdown before, let me know how it handles now. I'm not sure if the reported performance issues were caused by something that the new version of Renpy does on the back end, or something I tried with the dialog interface (which I disabled in this version but might put back if it's not the problem), or some other issue.
>I made a couple other tweaks, mostly behind the scenes, like changing how their default facial expression is judged, and also something that might reduce the issue where two characters spawn overlapping each other. We'll see. If you do notice that happening, let me know the deets, which room was it in, did it occur the instant the room opened up and both girls were already there, or did it have to do with one girl showing up later in the scene and she appeared in the same place as the first? If it's not what I thought it might be, then I need to figure out what's calling them into a wrong position.
>Also, can someone who uses Linux DL and try the "pc" version, because the new version of Renpy seems to indicate that it will work with both, and if no one has any objections, it would save a little time if I only had to upload the one (but if it doesn't work, it's not a big deal to keep adding all three).
Windows: https://mega.nz/#!9J4FFLqY!nXol5IpyOuDHgQoepbkdSjRSeWNUWcMAkeUf1qRRloc
Mac: https://mega.nz/#!dVoQETZR!eVl9r6hPRHlJJWB5YrwZw-VE1mDO0dkMJReup1nd0UY
Linux: https://mega.nz/#!VQQgERxC!8b5iOsWCNlTJf0i_Yc71clsn9-eS6uAFxou9dQmmRJ0
No.34979
>>34968
Aww…so we only get to see Emma Frost once. Ah well, at least this is a bug fix and Oni's working on this. I mean, Rogue is fine..Kitty is time consuming (and she's OK..I guess) but Emma Frost? Can't wait to actually see her ahegao face in game…that face man…
No.34989
>>34979
Yeah and i thought kitty was great. I only hope he will give emma a doggystyle sex scene, the one with kitty was pretty meh.
We also don't have a titfuck scene with kitty,
No.34992
>>34989
Well, she barely has tits…now, Emma…that's where I want to see a damn good titfuck.
No.35017
>>34968
Now that I think about it, Windows version does include Linux binaries (both 32 and 64 bit) and the startup script. Though I haven't tried running it since Windows binaries for any Ren'Py game I've ever seen run under Linux just as well as the native ones (as long as there's Wine installed, obviously).
No.35019
>>35017
For me renpy games in Wine have always scaled improperly and just snapped to whatever is a valid resolution. Maximising causes them to flicker between resolutions.
The native scripts have always run fine.
No.35036
>>35019
This happens to me too if I maximize the window by clicking the 'Fullscreen' sign on its top-right corner (the rectangle, the '+' or whatever symbol you have). But if I open the Ren'py preferences screen and set Display=Fullscreen, I've never experienced any flickering.
No.35076
>>35019
Huh… That's weird.
Do you have ATI card? They tend to produce some interesting issues at times, IIRC…
No.35125
>>35036
>>35076
Quick desktop recording.
Yeah AMD card.
Again it's not really an issue because fullscreen works fine, I can let it snap to whatever is just below maximise or I can run the native linux binaries.
No.35312
Last time i played the game (old version)
You could "convince" xavier to turn a blind-eye to what you do outside
I tried this time, but all i get to tell him is "fuck you old-man", and then he cuts my allowance by half
top-kek, but how do i stop this funny shit now?
No.35313
>>35312
You need to level up both you and Rogue.
No.35314
>>35313
Wait, lvl rogue too?
I mean, you can only lvl her sexual/endurance skills right?
What does it have to do with blocking xavier abilities?
I mean
MC can block/stop abilities physically touching him
And Rogue steal peoples powers
So it make sens for their abilities to be a terrifying thing when used together
But wouldn't it make her more sense to have to lvl their POWER, and not their fucking sex-skills?
No.35315
>>35314
Just checked. You don't need to level Rogue. It's just a P_Lvl thing.
I think the idea is that they're getting more powerful in less obvious ways but the skill points are specific buffs.
No.35317
>>35314
That's how it worked originally: you level addictiveness to the max (gaining full control of it), and Rogue levels resistance to the max (presumably learning to control her powers with your help or something).
Last time I checked, both skills were still available, but the combination didn't seem to work anymore.
No.35318
>>35315
"P_lvl thing"
Don't get it, what am i supposed to lvl-up?
Well, as for MC
It makes sense for him to become stronger, as he's training to control his power now
But to Rogue, it dosn't make any sense, as she's probably not training as much as before since she's constantly wasting time being MC's bitch/gf
No.35322
>>35317
seem like you were right
I lvled-up her resistance, and now i could pull the "plan-omega" on xavier
I still think it's weird, but who cares?
Is there any-ways to lower her resistances again now?
I liked her craving and feeding her "serum"
No.35356
>>35322
You can simply cheat via console.
But if you really don't want to, try flirting(touching or kissing) without going further, that seemed to have some effect.
No.35388
>>35318
The player needs to be level 5.
No.36007
I've mostly moved on to version 0.978 at this point, which will have some more Emma interactions and maybe some new sex options for the other two girls (especially if I can pin down some animation issues), but there were some nagging bugs in 0.977 and I didn't want to leave them hanging for so long. I made a change that should fix the issue people were having with the girls not shaving, it was a typo in the "failsafe" stat checker, ironically enough, which kept resetting the value before it could take effect.
Also, Umgah sent me some code that makes the clock work, or at least seems to so far. Try it out and see what you think. Right now the only things that update the clock are the sex scenes, travel, and some "cutscenes," but I might expand that a bit more once it's easier to keep track of. Other than that though, no new actual content just yet, so if you're fine with how your girls are groomed, there's no particular need to pick up this version.
https://mega.nz/#!sscnkI7D!VlOSgL3c62ovMK6mY9a3pE04IqxdSOASP1iRNU4gMxo
Took the dude half a month to fix the pubic hair, well atleast he got help with the coding on the clock or else it would've taken all month.
No.36059
I really like this game. I hope threesomes will get more development, especially on the graphic side. It would be nice too if Rogue and/or Kitty could jump on the MC in the showers…
No.36104
Are Kittys sex scenes done?
Also does anybody have a list of console commands?
No.36156
>>36104
>>12470
There. At least pretend to search the page, jesus…
Kitty's scenes are mostly done but there's still a few things missing.
No.36738
>>36685
How many cocks does the MC have?
No.36781
>>36685
as much as he needs, its his mutant ability
No.36864
>max out everything for Rogue
>brainwash Xavier
>kinda want to see the other content
>don't ever even interact with Kitty because I don't want to cheat on Rogue and like the relationship
I guess it's a good thing.
No.36866
>>36864
>I don't want to cheat on Rogue and like the relationship
Are you me?
No.36928
>>36864
it's not cheating if you never were in a relationship to begin with
what you do is turn them into obedients-slaves first
and then you make them adore you
that's how you get two slaves-waifues without having to cheat on any of them
No.36929
I haven't read this thread at all or seeing the game but this >>36685
looks great.
No.36943
>>36864
you can do this:
- get points with kitty but nothing too far (or cheat the stats for kitty so you can propose)
- go to rogue and select lets talk about you - how do you feel - kitty, she must be in good standing with kitty, else wait until they get better standing (or cheat the stat)
- if she say they are good friends or better, select "could we talk about us"
- if the option is "do you wanna be my girlfriend" youre not cheating rogue (youre not her boyfriend), stop reading or be her bf and wait until next morning, else it must say "i think we should break up", select that
- if she says " what? why?" select "i just think we need a break"
- if she says something about staying, select "maybe if we brought someone else" - "kitty" - "i dont know"
- she has to say that she will stay low and that she wont like to going behind kitty, then go to kitty, "lets talk about you" - "how do you feel…" - "rogue" to see kitty's stance on rogue, must be besties or better (if not you can ask later or cheat the stat)
- "could we talk about us" - "do you wanna be my girlfriend", she would say youre rogue's bf, select "she said i can be with you too", kitty must agree (and in my version, her mouth gets missing kek)
thats to get 2 gf, the other path is >>36928 to get 2 slaves (make sure they drink their milk)
No.37549
No.37571
>>37549
Not really dead…more like Oni is taking forever to update.
No.37579
>>37571
Hey, at least he dropped below 2 months between updates. That's damn quick compared to some!
No.37661
>>37579
I dunno, I mean looking at the content that comes with his fucking updates it shows he's still pretty shit, sure he's not shit compared to an even bigger pile of shit, but he's still shit. It took him one whole month to have Emma show up, have 6 lines, then leave.
Fag needs to get off the fuckstick and get a competent coder for his bullshit. This game is four years old and he's just NOW finishing up the second girl in the fucking game.
Hell the only thing that made him fucking get extra artists was that 6 month drought that made him lose like 6k worth of supporters.
No.37688
>>37661
Well, beggars can't be choosers (which is probably the majority in here) and it may sound cucked but I'm happier with sparse shit updates than none at all.
Make your own game and be super quick with it, if it bothers you that much.
No.37689
>>37661
>reddit spacing
>ow the edge
It's time to leave little one.
No.37751
>>37688
If I can find some time between all the shit im up to right now, I'll recode the game to make everything easier. But Im already working on a lot and I'm a little more invested in making the Orange Buttcheecks game work properly. It would be a hell of a lot better if some of these devs would get coding help from someone who knows code.
Besides, its fucken python, shits not hard.
No.37760
>>37751
That's what I've been saying to my friends for months now. Coding isn't that hard once you figure out the arguments and variables. Especially the more recent languages like Python and Unity. That shit is like children's picture books in comparison. It blows my mind that the patreon "game industry" can get away with doing a few days of work every month.
No.37787
>>37760
<arguments and variables
Thats the entire problem with Oni's code. Nothing is reproducible in a timely manner because thats all he uses. Every girl has to be done by hand essentially. No, if I were to go in an fix it, I would make a couple of proper objects to handle the reproducible things. That way I could reduce my amount of code by an order of magnitude.
No.37865
>>37787
Problem is, even if he has to copypaste all the code for every new girl and change variable names in it (bc his programming is at MS Basic level) it should still take him a month at worst (copypaste itself would take an hour, tops). Yet he takes it for months, as if he had to re-learn programming every day from scratch.
…And no, you don't *need* OOP for code reuse. Really. Just a dict and some brains is enough, at least for a game like this. The only reason he hasn't done it himself is he can't into composite values.
No.37875
>>37865
Yo, anon, you have any recommended reading for learning to code in Python or Unity? Actually considering picking up the skill set.
Basic web shit is the only crap I know.
No.37886
No.37888
>>37865
He either break his game on purpose or he trains his 14 year old son.
No.37892
>>37865
It isn't that simple though, despite what Renpy might say on it's website, it does it's best to fuck over Python programmers. I'm a competent programmer and Renpy script reads like ass no matter what you do with it.
No.37896
>>37886
Cheers, anon. Hopefully, I can start offering help to slow games by next year.
No.37917
>>37865
>>37892
> Renpy script reads like ass
Yeah it has its own requirements and makes some things really… interesting to deal with. However, Renpy actually lends itself very well to objects. Im getting really tired of this fucking idiot screaming
>No OOP, use dicks, globals for EVERYTHING!! HUR
Dude, learn what a fucking object is! Im talking about reusable code, things like functions that every girl has, that every sex menu for every girl has. You cant do that with dictionaries. What you can do is make a class for the girls, then use a single set of functions over and over.
> it should still take him a month at worst
I'll give you that one. Especially with the *extra* people he says he hired, Oni should be able to get a new character to a basic functioning level in a month.
No.37962
>girl with small tits gets missionary
>girl with d cups doesn't
No.38012
>>37962
Yeah, wish we can change Rogue's position during the fucking.
No.38052
>>38012
That would take like a whole year to implement.
No.38057
>>38052
Or a few months for a competent person.
No.38058
>>38057
That's an odd way to write 'days, at most'.
No.38081
>>38058
>That's an odd way to write 'days, at most'.
Anon's mod when?
No.38085
>>38081
Show me where I said I was a competent person.
No.38092
>>38081
the only problem would be the assets
No.38171
>>37917
I know "what an object is". I've been doing OOP for years. I've also been doing other kinds of coding, which is why I know that OOP != code reuse (in fact, OOP kinda sucks at it, compared to some other options).
More to the point, OOP is a complex thing you don't *need* to bring into everything. And like I said, this kinda task doesn't require wielding anything even remotely as advanced (from perspective of a newbie like Oni); basic stuff like values and functions would do just fine, if only he figured out he doesn't need to spread the data related to one character across a hundred variables. (And yes, you can do it with dictionaries just fine… Unless you're stuck with something rigid like Java or C#.)
> the *extra* people he says he hired
He did?! Wasn't the whole problem that he was the only one working on the code (and that he barely learned how to do it in two years)?..
No.38178
>>38171
Pretty sure the extra people he hired were just for asset's like clothing and some background artist. I think he was even looking for someone who could outright draw his style so that person could take over posing and other shit involving the character's.
Overall it looks like he's trying to position himself as a shitty coder first and a lazy artist second.
No.38182
>>38178
to him the games purpose is just for him to learn coding, everything else is second. He's said it himself and the fact hes hiring other people to do everything but coding shows that
No.38549
No.38569
I have masturbated to this game more than any other game I've ever played.
It's not so much the game itself, but they really have the master/slave dynamic down. I love it.
I just get so fucking hard whenever I get Rogue or Kitty to do something for the first time using nothing but obedience.
No.38571
>>38569
>nothing but obedience
that's actually pretty shitty. When i did that, they were sad all the time. It then made me sad as well, so it was kinda hard to watch them like that.
No.38572
>>38571
Their sad faces only makes me harder.
No.38573
>>38569
How to properly grind Kitty obedience?
No.38580
>>38571
I like to max their obedience first them raise their love. kinda like breaking their spirit them teaching they to be happy to serve me
No.38585
>you can fuck rogue or kitty
is x-men 3 all over again
No.38587
>>38585
wait, nevermind, Kitty is a bitch here and Rogue is basically a dream.
Game over, easy choice.
No.38630
what you use xavier's photo for?
No.38641
>>38580
Yeah but for me that took ages to get their obedience high first.
No.38667
>>38630
If I remember correctly, you can use it to bribe him if you get caught with Kitty (plan Kappa), as the plan Omega with Rogue.
No.38671
>>37886
tfw cant draw
i know python and i even attented art school as a teen but i cant draw for shit
fuck i could've been making good money
No.38674
No.38701
Can you schedule things for rogue to do? What does that even do?
No.38704
>>38701
Most likely something that's not implemented yet.
Like Rogue's dirty talking.
No.38719
>>38701
What she wears on what days.
No.38741
gotta say this guy sure can draw hot shit
can fap to this so many times
No.38769
This game is annoyingly good, and that's coming from someone who hates visual novels and played only because it's impossible to rip anything useful from .rpa
>try to rape Kitty in the first encounter
>now she don't even give me her number and her stats never increase
JUST
No.38776
>Two years later
>I glad to introduce you Jean Grey
No.38797
>>38769
To be fair, what did you expect to happen?
No.38799
>>38171
> (in fact, OOP kinda sucks at it, compared to some other options).
don't listen to this guy, he is talking out of his ass.
No.38802
>>38799
That's exactly what I have been saying. Bah, if I get a good weekend I'll look at fixing the girls into a class so they have a common base to work from. I would be very happy if Oni would use it.
No.38864
>got bored of Rouge route
>decided to go for kitty on new playthrough
>she's a major exhibitionist slut from the get-go
No.38866
>>38799
Okay, okay, OOP doesn't "kinda suck", it's more of "sucks a lot" compared to some alternatives.
Jeez, not a single place without a pedant…
No.38871
Functional is clearly the superior design paradigm.
No.39006
Yes Jack…we wait for that EXTRA THICCC Miss Frost
No.39029
>>39006
Extra thicc and thirsty Miss Frost….mmmm…Miss Frost..
No.39064
>>38911
just cryo freeze yourself. At this point that'd be more efficient
No.39065
I want her to cryo freeze me…tha hard way
No.39161
This game showed me it's so easy to fuck a addict whore compared to a healthy female.
Really fires that good ol' gray mass
No.39175
>>39161
Why haven't you watched requiem for a dream yet
No.39183
>>39161
it is easy but would you want to? she's probably god disease, and other nasty crap in her body.
No.39189
>>39183
that's why we made condoms and the "don't kiss whores" policy
No.39201
I hate this Oni cunt so much. This game is ridiculously replayable and fun but there's barely 2 complete girls. How hard could this fucking be he's making 44k a year for shitting out an update every 3 months. The entire fucking school should be finished by now. If someone wants to correct me and say it is in fact a lot of work then he should be hiring more people to do the coding or art
I almost wish I never discovered this game because this desire for more content is pissing me off
No.39206
>>39201
Naw, you're right. Most of us here share the same sentiment I assume. Dude won't hire someone else to do the coding though, he's already hired other artists to help a few months ago, but he refuses to hire another coder. Mainly because he's using it to learn. Funny thing is, he'd learn faster if he had an experienced coder to help him out and point out shit that will make his life easier and faster.
Even in actual game companies that's how it's done, you have your senior programmer to help clean up your newbie mess.
No.39219
>>39206
The worst part here is he *only* uses this game to learn coding, which means he only learns something new when he realises he can't achieve what he wants by using what he knows already. Otherwise he'd have moved past the "I can name a number and change it later" stage in those two years (!) he spent "learning".
Why has he not figured out he needs to do more research? I'd say he probably thinks stuff like "it's hard cuz programming is supposed to be hard" and "it's going slow cuz my brain can't program fast" (as opposed to "maybe there's a better way" or "I may be missing something").
No.39226
>>39219
Fuck, all he has to do is the free course on codecademy. Shit teaches you all the basics and stuff you need to know to work competently with python. It's what I used, shit can be done in a week - a month depending on your determination and schedule.
All I gotta do is get better with the art department and I can make my own games.
No.39242
>>39226
I passed it in a few hours (had some spare time)
No.39293
>>39201
I share that sentiment, just imagining how far along this could've been in the four years it has been around upsets me. Especially when I look over at Something Unlimited and Summertime Saga that are like half as old but contain so much more.
I would honestly prefer if he hired a fulltime coder for Rogue-Like and then just started off a small side project for him to focus his coding on because even with that we'd get more content than we do now.
No.39305
I come from the year 2023. Rogue-like is still in development. Kitty's route still wasn't finished but at least he added a 4th girl.
No.39308
>>39305
Who's the 4th girl?
No.39313
>>39308
Rahne. at some point oni got really into furry, so he paused the work on the other girls to focus only on Rahne
No.39314
>>39313
Don't give any whales ideas who could demand this.
No.39322
>>39313
He's already done a lot of furry stuff. Check his olllllllllllllllld ass shit from years ago. Lol
No.39339
>>39313
>Rahne. at some point oni got really into furry, so he paused the work on the other girls to focus only on Rahne
Looks nice, i see no problem in supporting oni till 2023.
Also, did we defeat the jews?
No.39370
>>39219
>>39226
>>39206
>>39201
I don't understand this though
If hes supposedly learning coding why is he still doing literally everything with if statements…
I started learning python 2 months ago and his "StatUpdate" function could go from 200+ lines to at least 30
No.39389
>>39206
>patreon artist would rather outsource the art and work on coding
Why are his backers okay with this?
No.39392
>>39370
See >>39219
The process of working on the code of this game is literally the *only* thing he does to learn coding; and considering what his code looks like I can say with complete assurance that he only ever learned the absolute minimum of coding techniques to get by, and only considered adding something new to his toolbox when he's unable to solve the problem with what he knows (I never thought I'd see someone write C code in Python syntax…).
Or, quoting a certain joke, "Me no reader, me writer" (response to an advice to read some books before trying to write one)
No.39393
>>39370
So this is his shit after he took half a year to re-code his game, i'm curious just what in the hell did the previous coding look like? He seems rather proud of this work too.
No.39395
>>39370
>>39293
>>39305
>>39219
>>39201
>>39206
Now I'm obviously not demanding anything here because I couldn't contribute to this in the least but is there anyone willing to pickup and work on this game properly? Is it possible? Something similar to what the /hgg/ anons working on PregMod from the FreeCities game are doing. A standalone 'mod' that offers way more than the base game does.
There's clearly more competent coders here than Oni. I guess the only problem would be the Art because at least in that respect Oni's work is top notch in recreating the look of the old tv series but he sometimes outsources for that too so I don't know what do you guy's think?
No.39396
>>39395
Yes, there are and yes the issue is the art and extra assets. Freecities is easier in that its all text based. They finally got newer vector art after a very long time.
Given plenty of art assets though, the game could be completely redone with much more content. We would need common assets, think 2-3 general bodies, with an entire range of specific assets per character. But at that point, it would be fairly straight forward to add to the game.
Personally, I would like to make the general corruption take longer and have more phases that the girls go through.
No.39397
>>39396
Fuck my own reddit spacing. Whatever. Anyways, there is always the option of someone trying to make a daz or illusion version of all the girls. I mean, it would suck but, it would be faster.
No.39399
>>39370
What would be the better way to do it? I dont know much about python, just curious.
>>39395
Once there is enough assets mods will probably start showing up
No.39410
>>39399
There's a *lot* of things that could be improved, just in the code on screenshot (and most cases aren't even specific to Python).
For starters, instead of three equality checks he could check for set membership (Flavor in {"Love", "Obed", "Inbt"})
Next he has nested ifs with exactly the same branches (only the sign is different); it would be easier to just write down a longer condition (Type >= Check if Greater else Type <= Check). Speaking of which, Greater is supposed to be a bool, so it should default to False (instead of 0); and Value seems to be a number, so direct comparison to zero should be used when using as "if" condition.
Next he has what some refer to as "chinese code": a lot of very repetitious code that could've been much shorter if he bothered to store data in (nested) dicts and identified parameters by names (strings) instead of numbers (a la "Girls['Rogue']['Love'] += Value", which could be downed to "Girls[Name][Flavor] += Value" or something like that, and I suspect this one line would be equivalent to about half of the function he wrote).
Other stuff would include dictionary of the "next" value of Flavor (which he sets after adding Value in every branch), using "R_XXX = max(1000, R_XXX)" instead of inlining it, using dicts instead of lists where appropriate (guess what does R_Chat[4] stand for?), and using compound values instead of integer masks (instead of "Value = Type - 1000" use a tuple "(Value, Type)" or something of the sort)
No.39411
>>39399
>>39410
Apparently he only knows of lists (that he mistakes for C arrays) and "if" operator, so at the very least he doesn't know (or use) sets, dicts, tuples, and loops (which are all extremely basic stuff). There's also the "moving out duplicate code to a general purpose function" he may not know, but I can't say for sure from the screenshot alone.
No.39415
>>39410
>>39411
Cool, thanks for the help.
He could at least bundle some stuff into a function, or whatever its called in python, so it doesnt get that repetitive
No.39416
>>39410
There isn't something like case/switch in python?
I don't even program, but this sheer amount of ifs triggers me.
Besides, I think you are nitpicking, IMO there is no problem to make a convoluted mess inside a function(I think the function has too many inputs tho), that's their purpose, to simplify and wrap code, so you can create without having to worry with ifs and fors.
No.39419
>>39395
he better put in the red head in as the next girl
No.39421
>>39416
>There isn't something like case/switch in python?
There's if/elif/else chains, and if you don't like those (technically what's bad here is nesting and repetition though) there's always dict literals which.
And no, a convoluted mess inside a function is no better than one outside of it, it's still horrible code. Not to mention that if he wrote that function right it would take like 10 lines at most, which would a) reduce the time it takes to read and understand it (for him too!), and b) makes it much easier to change it when he needs to (and if he used nested dicts like I described he wouldn't even need to update it for every new girl).
Programming = lots of code reading, => good code = small code = easy to work with.
No.39422
>>39415
The worst problem of his code is that he can't into dicts, and stores every number in a global variable, which means he can't abstract something away into function (he can move it out but it won't serve any purpose other than separating similar pieces of code to different places, and that'd increase chances of messing up when changing it).
…Also, I can't think of any language that calls functions something else just for the heck of it (except for esoteric ones, but "just for the heck of it" is kinda their point to begin with).
No.39423
>>39419
Oh he will, how's your August 2027 looking? I'd keep your schedule open for that update
No.39426
>>39389
He's had actual patrons, and non-patrons offer to help him with the coding for free, but ultimately refused. Reason being 'cause he wants to learn how to do it. Which going by the screenshot we saw, isn't working out for him, and is just creating more work for himself.
No.39427
>>39426
To be fair you can't take much stock in the
>Hey I like your game, Let me help you make it
These types of people usually stop giving a shit a day or two after they realize how much work they need to actually do
No.39450
>>39422
Off-hand, Java. They are called 'methods' in Java, as functions can stand alone and Java doesn't allow that.
No.39451
>>39427
Thats true
In this case its particularly work intensive
I took a look inside and honestly you're better off taking a couple screens and rewriting the rest from scratch instead of trying to clean up the mess
No.39454
>>39416
I mean, the code is easily followed, which always scores in my book.
Really the only suggestion I'd have, without him flipping the whole codebase, would be to break it down into smaller functions.That's about it, and just good practice rather than necessity. Others may disagree with that but his code here isn't broken or doing anything too kludgy, it's just clunky.
I'd definitely have gone with a different approach from the ground up but that's because I have a prior experience. He doesn't have previous adventures in coding to guide him in the 'dos and don'ts'.
No.39455
>>39454
Oh yeah, and I have no clue why he didn't use classes or dictionaries but whatever, not sure whether Ren'Py limits your functionality compared to base Python.
No.39457
>>39455
I just checked and renpy completely supports oop
He should have made a character class and objects imo
No.39462
>>39457
As long as the author learns from official Ren'py docs, forget it. They teach devs to fill their scripts with global vars, ifs and jumps (gotos): no wonder their code looks like old Basic garbage.
No.39472
>>39462
It makes sense for bringing a Choose Your Own Adventure story to game-form, I guess. That's pretty much about just taking a variety of paths. It's once you start doing anything more complex where that approach starts looking less than stellar.
No.39481
>>39454
This, if it compiles, why bother.
I think the debate became pretentious XKCD-stackoverflow("Why would you even use a if statement?") sonerdXD fags trying to show-off what they learned yesterday.
No.39482
>>39481
>that image
kek
>if it compiles, why bother
Because hes trying to implement increasingly complicated ideas because hes trying to learn programming.
Lets say I want to add a new character or some new location or stat
Do I:
A) Spend an afternoon running through my (sparsely commented) code, copy and pasting as I go (crossing my fingers I didn't forget anything when creating the 6-10 new global vars)
or
B) Add something to my "Girl" class and create a new object.
No.39485
>>39450
It does allow that now. Though it required to add some backwards workaround in the compiler, and if you want to put it in a variable you have to give it a long ass generic type as it still has to pretend to be an object.
>>39454
One rewriting of a function doesn't take much more time and/or effort than one reading of it (by which I mean actually trying to follow the logic), and if after rewriting it shrinks its size by order of magnitude, then you've already saved yourself that much work multiplied by however many times you're gonna read it again in the future.
In case of numbers stored in global variables, you can transition by doing something called global text replacement (supported by probably all text editors and even some command line shells) and then generalising each occurrence appropriately as you code.
No.39506
>>39482
>copy-paste a code you already know
>rewrite all the code and ren'py itself from scratch in a new, confused and gay paradigm
I guess he uses this global statupdate function since the actions are generic and making/calling a function for each girl(the sensible thing to do) would broke all the rest of the code(or he would need a if rogue, if emma, if kitty, in every single line/scene).
No.39513
>>39455
Ren'py is more an extension of Python. Its just a library essentially, which means that anything you can do in Python you could likely make work with Ren'py. Its why we can use Ren'py for so much more than just visual novels.
No.39514
>>39506
>I took a codeboot camp that only taught imperative so im gonna talk shit about modern programming.
Get the fuck out of here with your bullshit! One, Ren'py uses OOP. Two, copypasta of uncommented code is the reason we have something like OOP. And Three, that fucker does have a shit ton of if, they're just before the scenes, and the scenes themselves are copypasta'd files.
No.39520
>>39514
>shitting about my pascal mad skills
It's works, it's intuitive(functions change data, not data change itself and is a function by itself and create more duplicate data out of their ass in a retarded convoluted abstract way) and get the work done.
No reason to use convoluted OOP if not for a GUI app, which is not the case here or any ren'py VN.
Making more reusable functions and structs/customvariables to avoid copypasta would be a lot better, easy to code and understand and practical than using gay OOP.
No.39521
>>39520
>>shitting about my pascal mad skills
kek.
I think shoving everything into objects is as retarded as having everything global.
No.39523
Anyone have and old android version or just and old version that has the theater Usher scene activated or in the file? R_Usher, Rogue_DateNight.RPY
No.39527
>only let rogue suck my cock
>never do anything else to her
>she starts begging me to fuck her
I never knew there was dialogue like this in the game.
No.39528
>>39527
Now this game has my attention. How is it, in terms of grind, cuckoldry and amount of sex?
No.39530
>>39528
In terms of cuckoldry it's very good, there's none in it.
No.39532
>>39530
And the rest? I am really not in the mood to grind for two hours to get a handjob.
No.39533
>>39532
I meant an in-game handjob. A handjob is exactly what I am actaully after.
No.39536
>>39533
When you do it for yourself it's called fapping, just so you know
No.39539
>>39514
Code reuse is a term completely unrelated to OOP (aka "write new classes whenever you want new code").
Also, OOP is, in fact, imperative (languages that default to functional tend to opt for simpler alternatives to OOP). If you meant to take a jab at Pascal (which has OOP but doesn't enforce it BTW) or C you should've said procedural.
No.39566
>>39532
The grinding isn't bad in this game, it's good.
With kitty it's harder though, but you only need to buy her some books and shit and that's it.
No.39573
>>39528
Oni was planning to add something in that lets the girls suck and fuck other guys when you take her out on dates but that was removed before it could go anywhere, smart guy.
No.39575
>>39539
>That guy who still doesn't know what OOP is
HOLY FUCK, are you still hear whining with your shit? Take your script kiddie ass out of here. OOP is all about reuse of code and in this game I could create all three girls from one singular code base. Fuck, I could create any numbers of girls from it.
Im starting to think your trying some psychology bullshit to get me to recode the game and prove my point. And damn if I wouldn't but, I'm too busy going back to school to become an engineer.
No.39577
>>39521
No one ever said shit about shoving everything into objects, which is something only you imperative retards would come up with. But the girls? Who all share a common code base with all the same function names??? That right there sounds like a fucking object.
>>39520
What the fuck about Oni's code works if it takes him a year to 'code' (read: copy) a new girl in? If the art assets were the time sink for Oni, he wouldn't have Emma all done but not working.
>I think OOP is something to do with graphics hurrr
Where the fuck do you get this shit? That right there shows us that you never took an actual course on computer science and have no fucking clue what you are talking about.You also don't seem to get that you can use multiple paradigms in a single program. Also, OOP pretty much took over procedural since it incorporates that line of thought into it. And talking about Pascal or C as if that is the example to use here? Your not some idiot kid, your a 50 year old virgin retard sitting in his own shit in his dead mothers basement.
No.39582
>>39575
Oh wow, another fresh grad who actually believes OOP has anything to do with code reuse and other stuff they were promising in 70s.
>>39577
>you imperative retards
<OOP is good for something other than abstracting away GUI/IO and preventing code from accessing the data
If there's anything OOP is about it would be low-level description of what needs to be done and how exactly to do it, and chaining [unobservable] modifications of data in-place, in the interlocking mutable state spread throughout all the codebase (aka imperative programming). Not something you'd want most of your code to be in, if you want it manageable.
No.39614
>>39575
>And damn if I wouldn't but, I'm too busy going back to school to become an engineer.
No.39619
>>39577
>No one ever said shit about shoving everything into objects, which is something only you imperative retards would come up with.
C# and JS literally requires that everything is put into a class, so yes, shoving everything into objects is something that OOP prescribes.
>But the girls? Who all share a common code base with all the same function names??? That right there sounds like a fucking object.
Sure, but just having objects in your code isn't OOP. What people usually mean by OOP is having a fuckload of tiny useless objects with a fuckload of tiny functions, "objects" that have no fields, "singleton" objects etc. which I find retarded.
As far as this particular case is concerned: yes, I agree, the dev should probably make a "Grill" class and a lot of the business could be done by methods inside this class, but just because creating an object here is a good solution, doesn't mean that the dev should go full homo.
No.39622
>>39582
fresh grad? I've been a project manager for years and I teach CS. You clearly have no understanding of using paradigms together, and have some very big misconceptions about objects.
>Im just going to use a lot off words in not quite the right way.
OOP can be very good at locking away data in a form that helps to mitigate interference but, that is hardly its only selling point. The fact that you think everything should be public within the code base means you shouldn't be coding anything that requires security.
>>39614
A neckbeard trying to shame some guy who is pursuing another career, way to go, you just proved why you neckbeards are so alone.
>>39619
I think you meant JAVA cuz I use regular imperative functions just fine with JS and C#. Don't know where you get this stuff cuz everything you say is wrong.
As for OOP, a lot of seasoned devs actually hate Java just for the fact that it wants everything in a class. I program in Java and I hate it. But that isn't what OOP really is, rather its a way to explore relations in data. You likely don't realize just how often you use objects, they just don't seem like it because they were well made. People who write code does not equal people who understand the way code works, this is the issue with self-taught and codecamps.
No.39623
Some of you faggots should just recode the game already and present it to that faggot Oni, clearly you're more experienced than he is, though that's not really saying much.
But goddamn you assholes could possibly be the key to saving this 5 year old piece of shit.
No.39632
>>39622
>C# and JS literally requires that everything is put into a class
>I think you meant JAVA cuz I use regular imperative functions just fine with JS and C#
How are these two things related?
>..I teach CS.
Youngsters in Mumbai are very lucky.
>But that isn't what OOP really is
>Google: Object-oriented programming is a programming paradigm based on the concept of "objects", which may contain data, in the form of fields, often known as attributes; and code, in the form of procedures, often known as methods.
>REAL OOP hasn't been tried yet
>You likely don't realize just how often you use objects, they just don't seem like it because they were well made. People who write code does not equal people who understand the way code works, this is the issue with self-taught and codecamps.
Sure thing, Pajeet.
>A neckbeard trying to shame some guy who is pursuing another career, way to go, you just proved why you neckbeards are so alone.
I wasn't making fun of you pursuing another career, I am making fun of you for trying to look smart, while at the same time you reveal yourself to be a nigger.
No.39648
>>39632
>>39614
To be fair, you have to be really high IQ to understand OOP.
The inheritance is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of a second master in enginnering most of the code will go over a typical programmer's head.
No.39653
>>39573
Was wondering why Rogue had an upgrade allowing her able to touch people safely.
No.39655
>>39653
Also the threesomes she can be placed in with other girls.
No.39663
>>39622
…You have some insane ideas about security. The only case when "not locking data away from your own code" equals security is when you make incredibly retarded design choices (like using eval on input, or giving sensitive data to arbitrary proprietary libraries, or using anything made by Micro$oft).
And locking away data is exactly the opposite from "exploring relations" in it. Whenever you create a new "data" class, you're effectively locking it into a brand new DSL that absolutely none of already existing code is able to work with (except for the rare and limited cases of "implemented interfaces" or whatever equivalent your preferred OOP language does). Or do you define security as "safeguards for mutablility-induced problems"? In that case OOP does work better than having everything mutate everything, I guess, but I if you moved beyond CS basics you'd know there are much better ways of dealing with it.
>>39648
>(picrelated) C, Lisp, Assembly and Haskell
Ironically, none of these languages have OOP in any form (except for Lisp in the form of a library as Lisp allows you to modify the language however the hell you like… incidentally it has better OOP facilities than any OOP language I've ever heard of); ASM & C are too low-level and Haskell & Lisp are too high-level.
As for "needing really high IQ for OOP"… Well, that's kinda true but not in a good way, since when I'm working on the code, I prefer to dedicate my mental resources to the problem I'm trying to solve, rather than the problem that the language tools are creating for me.
No.39665
Holy shit can you autists shut the fuck up. If you're not going to actually fix the game Oni has made no one wants to read your arguments on oop, goop or whatever the fuck it is you're talking about
No.39681
>>39665
But its soo much fun to piss off >>39663
No.39682
No.39683
>>39681
Hey we don't come her for fun -autists do!
We come here to fap. And right now were stacking post after post with no new fap material. You're doing it wrong!
No.39686
>>39683
Fap on back to /hgg, this here be the land of autists lead by King Tropic, first among retards! Have you seen any thread in the last 6 months that hasn't been taken over by by the Cuck War or died in obscured to cries of jewism? At least this somewhat has something to do with the actual game.
No.39714
>>39682
She's the best girl by far. I like to act completely rude to Rogue the entire time, only using her a cum dump when she comes begging for it, never spending any other time with her. Then with Kitty I work on becoming her actual loving boyfriend.
Does anyone else do this?
No.39716
>>39714
I do actually. I fucking love Kitty. Wish we got more content and poses on her instead of the new girl. Eugh…
No.39717
Why's he putting so much work into Emma? What exactly is the end game of his development? Has he stated any particular goals for a finished state?
No.39718
>>39686
Touche.
All ive seen lately is "hur dur cucks, im white and feel inferior to black schlongs therefore they are monkeys" or "dem jews".
It feels like 4chan here, please lets reduce the basement dweling and "whos got the shortest dick" competition
No.39732
>>39718
Oh… Oh no.. You mentioned their trigger words. Now we're gonna have 300+ posts about non-existent cuck shit in every game, and how da joooos are going to take the only thing they have going for them in life away.
No.39733
>>39732
>>39686
>>39718
If you hate it so much why are you here than?
No.39734
>>39733
Because i dont want there to be a place for you at all, not on the internet or anywhere besides your family basement and tip of your dad's dick.
Sheit, now im having fun, the irony is deadly…
No.39736
>>39686
>come to a board where the BO is a known sperg
>"I want to change things and make it the way I WANT IT"
No matter what you do, things are going to stay the way they are, You're not going to change shit or stop this place from being any different and complaining about it just makes you look like a retard tbh
No.39749
>>39746
more like i sure hope you guys dont jew this am i rite
No.39753
>i will never kiss Kitty on the cheek and hold her hand while she calls me a dork
Is this what having a waifu is like? It feels so empty. I want her to be real. :(
No.39754
>>39753
Don't tell anyone but I'm building my skillset to work in the Artificial Intelligence field solely to one day make digital waifus that are somewhat intelligent and a framework so users can create their own based on preferences. Whoever cracks that market first is going to be a multi millionaire
You could also theoretically transfer her unique code into a robot body for her/him to move around in
No.39755
No.39756
>>39754
>having to go through neural network, trail and error machine learning when all you need is a hollow body and a basic set of responses
You're a fucking idiot if you think the average retard will use even 1/1000th of the preferences you program
Listen to some dev diary's about how most dev's have to develop a lemming in a maze style of approach to games and settings
Intelligence in sex bot ai is a fucking wasted fantasy
No.39758
>>39756
Oh I phrased that incorrectly what I meant was I would create an extensive tool so during setup you could customise the physical appearance of the waifu based on what you want. My goal is to make digital companions. I just threw in that line about a sex bot as an end goal but that will take decades and is not something I'm personally interested in tbh
No.39793
Glad to know the thread is still going to shit. I stopped looking for a couple days hoping we'd get something fappable but nope. Still a gang of degenerates bitching and moaning about dumb shit.
No.39799
>>39623
I would, if I wasnt working on my own game
Judging by this thread though I might as well just obfuscate my code so I dont get chewed out by the purists here
No.39908
I think the quality of this game is transparency.
All other VNs are retarded guess games where you don't know how choices affects your relationships/status, in this game everything is clear, every action give you the number of the stat change right away.
No.39909
>>39908
I think the biggest thing is just how smooth it plays. It's like a sandbox almost
No.39926
>>39793
>as the degenerate bitches and moans about dumb shit.
No.39931
6 March update
>Ok, sorry this one's taken a while to come out, I've been doing a lot of groundwork for Emma, and not all of it will be apparent in this upcoming build, or even necessarily be active even if it theoretically exists, but it'll make the following builds run smoothly, so it's good that it exists. I also had an unhelpful technical issue that took up most of my weekend. Who knew computers need electricity?
>I hope to get a new build out within a week or two, depending on how the testing and the last few bits do. It'll have the lesbian sex scenes I've been working on, in this build you can only initiate it with Rogue as the lead and Kitty also being in the room, but if initial testing works that way then it's a short hop to expanding it to work the other way, and to eventually work Emma into it. Try and test the various permutations, see if any of them break or cause any weird combinations, it's a very complicated system behind the scenes, but I think I sorted it out.
>Emma will also be more available in this build, with a few things you'll be able to do fairly early on. I figured out how I want to introduce her sex scenes, the typical methods won't work with her, since she's a teacher and isn't immediately open to "fraternization." Once you crack her icy exterior though, she really opens up. I'll want you guys to see how that works out for you, if she's still too difficult with you, or not.
>Also, Kitty's footjob option will likely be in this build, even though the animation can sometimes get glitchy if you view it more than once per session. Restarting the game would fix it, but I can't yet figure out a better way. I did add her stripping scenes back in though, so you can play with that. Anyway, hopefully the next update will be pre-release.
No.39933
>>39931
>I've been doing a lot of groundwork for Emma, and not all of it will be apparent in this upcoming build, or even necessarily be active even if it theoretically exists
No.39934
>>39931
What's the version number for this update? I hate when devs dont include this
No.39938
>>39934
no version number cause no uploaded file my dude
No.39942
>>39933
checked.
Truly hard times.
No.39943
>>39931
>It'll have the lesbian sex scenes
Heh, will it be an actual scene or will it be both of them naked in a default pose with the text saying that they're doing something.
No.39944
>>39943
I'd drop money on the latter being right
No.39946
>>39938
Oh I thought that at first but the way he wrote some of those paragraphs made me think he attached an update. Fucking should have known better with Oni
No.39960
>gonna make rogue be kitty's bitch soon
The correct way to play this game is to treat Rogue like complete shit while you romance Kitty.
No.39964
>>39960
>>39714
>>39716
Patrician tastes. I don't have anything against Rogue her character is definitely fap worthy and the contrast in style between her and Kitty is great but in the context of this game the best way to play is constantly abusing her while making Kitty you're waifu. There's just something pleasing about abusing the power you have when someone is literally addicted to you as a person
No.40005
god i wish kitty were real
No.40007
>>39714
No, I make them both my girlfriends
No.40012
>everybody loving the slut bitch kitty
>hating on virgin maiden forever in love with you rogue
ya'll niggas need jesus christ, the pope and going to church, fucking heretics.
No.40014
>>40007
>No inviting a girl into another's room/both to your room and you just sleep together on a slightly cramped bed.
>No double bj when you wake up.
Get on it Oni,
No.40016
>>40012
Rogue is for being mean to.
No.40039
>>40012
>Slut bitch
You have to take Kitty out on dates before she'll let you even hug her. Rogue will instantly make out with you the first time she see you and gets aroused if you whip your dick out during
No.40048
>>40012
She's not in love with your character though, she doesn't know anything about you you're just a drug to her that she needs to deal with
No.40049
>>40039
>gets aroused if you whip your dick out during
rip anon. He died mid-sentence.
>>40048
I see no reason that she couldn't be as in love as kitty. You can go for maximum addiction-bulli and make her your personal sex slave in a way that you really don't seem to be able to do with Kitty but just because you can leverage her addiction doesn't mean that has to define her interactions with the pc.
No.40051
>>40049
>>gets aroused if you whip your dick out during
>rip anon. He died mid-sentence.
>Hes never heard of based Churchill
No.40075
Kitty is for sweet, tender loving. Rogue is for begging for your cum while you deny her. Emma is for titjobs.
No.40078
>>40075
Emmas for fucking nothing because she's not in the game
No.40080
>>40078
Next build you fucking retard.
No.40091
>>40080
>Next build
>>39931
>I've been doing a lot of groundwork for Emma, and not all of it will be apparent in this upcoming build, or even necessarily be active even if it theoretically exists
Next build, totally
No.40094
>>40091
But it says here >>39931
>Emma will also be more available in this build, with a few things you'll be able to do fairly early on
No.40097
>>40094
>listen and believe
No.40098
>>40097
Have there been instances that he lied or said something he didn't do?
Would surprise me if there are even people who keep track on all the stuff.
tbh
No.40111
>>40080
You're the retard here.
>>40098
>>40094
>doing a lot of groundwork for Emma, and not all of it will be apparent in this upcoming build, or even necessarily be active even if it theoretically exists
>Emma will also be more available in this build, with a few things you'll be able to do fairly early on
>figured out how I want to introduce her sex scenes
Translation: You get to talk to her a few more times and that's it. He's pretty fucking vague about Emma in that update and "a week or two" in Oni time is not the amount of time you'd expect
No.40302
best way to train kitty's obedience without the love bullshit?
No.40304
No.40311
>>40304
Why are you linking old versions?
No.40339
>>40311
I don't know why he did it but it's not an old version its the current version until this new build comes out in a week or two
No.40384
I pledged $1. Anyone else seen that image set you get on the Pateron? Why is the art so different from the game?
No.40386
>>40384
Can you put the folder on mega for us?
No.40387
No.40388
No.40398
No.40595
>>40311
There were no other working download links in the thread until I posted those.
No.40919
Looks like we might get a shitty bug version around tomorrow
No.40926
>>40919
> around tomorrow
Sure famalam, more like next week.
No.40932
>>40919
>Don't Rush
What does it matter? It's Oni. It's going to be filled with bugs and take him a month to fix anyways.
No.41038
new version is up. downloading it right now, added a lot of things
No.41039
17 March update
>Ok, first off, WARNING, this is the first pass and will likely have plenty of bugs to it that I hadn't managed to nail down. Do not download this build if you just want to have fun with a stable game, this is more for people who want to test out bugs and report them so they can be fixed. I'll try to put out better and better builds over the next few days and ideally have a relatively stable one within a weeks or so.
>So what's new?:
>-Emma now has more interactions available. She will show up in class every day after you meet her, and sometimes after class. She might interfere in your romantic actions in class. She will initially be a bit standoffish and hard to talk to, but after certain conditions are met, a lot more of her options will open up.
>-In this build, Emma will be able to [Spoilers follow] flirt, strip, masturbate, and be fondled.This is sometimes easier than other times. She is much less likely to do anything in public, and will not currently do anything with the other girls. More options will become available as development continues. She also has a "wet look" hairdo available, although she doesn't currently use the public showers or Danger Room.
>-A new "Watch them do lesbian stuff" option has been added between Rogue and Kitty. It currently only works with Rogue in the lead and Kitty in the room, but it should be fairly easy to expand to work the other way. I just wanted to have it tested thoroughly before that.
>-A new "foot job" option has been added for Kitty. I do plan on adding this to the other girls eventually, but it's not in at the moment.
>-A new chibi UI appears in the lower left corner. This will display when your cock is out, when you're jacking off, when a girl is jacking you off as a secondary action, or when a girl is blowing you as a secondary action. This is still a work in progress.
>-I moved the text balloons around a bit, placing them firmly in the top right corner, so as to leave more space in the center of the screen. This is also a work in process. I definitely need to update the intro scene to look a bit better with this style.
>-A great new classroom backdrop courtesy of Miss Muffin.
>-Plenty of other little tweaks, spelling corrections, bug fixes, and other stuff.
>Please give me plenty of feedback if anything is actually broken or buggy, and also just general impressions about these new systems, what works, what doesn't?
Windows: https://mega.nz/#!NYY2VS5S!6ynKKVkiW1jHvMsTdbk4nOhAxHOIS8_C6iwF89YBQho
Linux: https://mega.nz/#!NQJ0EQDB!uKam-jVBrxzqGnwg-77grPpCUdMnnDiDOYeAV9m8FEA
Mac: https://mega.nz/#!xIoiQKQb!YFtONbiBalc37iaL1mAkwY7JItzZnhEc8joHuFJETgE
No.41042
>>41039
>>41038
This is fucking shit. After you meet Emma initially, you get one scene where she's fondling herself in the class in the evening and that's literally it. She'll teach the classes everyday but will leave immediately after it's finished and there's no way to talk to her again
>She will show up in class every day after you meet her, and sometimes after class
>sometimes after class
my fucking ass
No.41044
>>41039
kitty footjob doesn't work just gives an error
No.41045
>>41042
Get Kitty or Rogue to do sex shit with you in class, Emma gives you detention, and it opens up from there
No.41046
Bug fix version is out. Probably not the last but this was fast. Only 5 hours after last release.
No.41047
>>41045
That's annoying I tried doing that and she sent me to Xavier. I'll give it another shot, thanks
>>41046
link?
No.41049
>>41047
>Rogue-Like-0978a-win
mega.nz/#!suoXxACJ!hCyUV8Nq2oCxhVJ9sdRHy7a0iWe9kgJQwPucDh3Nhtw
>Rogue-Like-0978a-linux
mega.nz/#!FjY0kSyQ!EfCc7Id5t0Vz-9TunZFMewmyob15FNm3u5PF2CDJ_Ik
>Rogue-Like-0978a-mac
mega.nz/#!064RSJYa!0A-DpZgIWWZJ1vwzwyltKU_sZ7LTDA2tLOAML-6SkEk
No.41051
I played this game like 2 years ago. Is all that happened in these 2 years that he added 3/4 of kitty and 1/10 of Emma?
No.41052
Rogue-Like 0.978b (Now with slightly more Emma?)
$1+ patrons
Mar 18 at 7:41am
Ok, I'm not sure what was causing some people to not encounter Emma, but here's a new version that will hopefully allow her to show up after any afternoon class, among other things. Also, I added the ability to add and remove her gloves, and removed the sleepwear option, since she doesn't really work with that yet.
Already at B, just hours after release. This is gonna be one of those where we go through half the alphabet.
No.41053
>>41051
Pretty much. He was absent for like 6 months, so it's not really a suprise. He's gotten help now with the backgrounds, character chatter and general help but he still draws and codes everything on his own.
>>41049
Check the logs from the last one to see what major changes are in the version overall, but here's what's changed between 0.978 and 0.978a:
-Emma has a chance to randomly appear after class, and is more likely to give you detention. Expect some tweaks to this in later builds, but this at least makes it easier to test things.
-Kitty's Footjob scene should work now, variables should be fixed, and I added an option for when orgasming.
-The Lesbian scenes should allow you to properly change their activities, and I also added one to let you change what Kitty is doing. Let me know if there are any oddities there. Also I toned down the dirty talk on the secondary girl a bit.
-I forgot to mention, but I added a dirty talk addition. I'm not 100% happy with how this flows and will likely tweak the order of events here, but it's kind of fun.
-I believe I removed the option for Emma to spend the night. That should not be available yet since some of the subsystems involved have not yet been updated for her. Let me know if you can still convince her to stay over.
-If you see an "[E_like]" error, let me know what you were doing at the time, it would result from Emma trying to say something in a dialog sequence that shouldn't be available at the moment (because it hasn't been edited to fit her).
No.41069
>>41066
Had the same reaction, pussy is perfect too. Honestly the best girl in terms of body