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Rhape all snekz

if some choices in event need specific traits will they be just gone if you dont have the trait or will they show up and you just cant chose them?

Same with choices you have the trait for will they be marked so you can tell they are aviable because you have trait x?

Playable demo when?

>>24398 (OP)

Couldn't there really be some read-only access for anons? I just want to read to-do or check on the changelog every week or so, not post or edit anything.

>>24394

very nice I like it

Please explain what exactly is Libre Cities.

I understand it's or used to be a fork of Free Cities. But what are LC's goals? In what ways does it want to be a different experience than FC?

What's a repo and where can i download the game when it comes out?

>>24445

just register with an email from sharklasers or something

>>24459

Don't quote me on this, im a nobody.

Libre Cities is going to differ with FC in that content that FC wont have LC will, though it relies on someone saying they want it and then having everything made but still, ask and ye shall receive in time.

In FC you start off as the owner of the arcology but with LC you wont, you have to work your way up to owning it through social status or factions (military power i guess) then once you own it, you defend it and customise it. LC will also be more open, travel and interaction with NPCs will be possible and you can immerse(?) yourself in the little world more through interaction rather than just being a guy stuck in his home for all eternity like FC.

Probs missed something. Just took this from the wiki and the last thread.

>>24463

You can download the pre-alpha from the got link on the project infrastructure page thou you will need to compile ii and there wont be much content. When theres an actual release a link will be posted in the thread by LCDev, maybe someone else.

repo=repository - something where large ammounts of something are stored

>>24469

I don't really get it, but it sounds cool.

If it's going to have beastiality at some point I will definitely check it out. If not, I might take a look at it someday.

Good luck!

>>24478

Someone mentioned in a thread or two ago that in the arena slaves would get fucked by animals and have xGirl children, but I have no idea if the dev team is actually doing that still.

That was someone describing a feature they thought would fit. >>24479

>>24479

Huh, so I've made an account and read through some wiki pages. It sounds like you guys got really big plans, and it would be an amazing game idea to be able to shape a faction to agree exactly with the players own fetishes. You could create truly magical places!

Since the whole faction-idea intrigues me, I have a question! I've read through several of factions on the wiki and had a look at the faction traits you came up with.

Just how much ground should I be able to cover with my faction?

If we take me for example, I love the idea of a religious faction that values incest, beastiality, pregnancy, lactation and watersports. Now thats a lot of fetishes I would love to see. Do you think factions should/will be able to cover so many fetishes at once?

>>24481

I'm not on the dev team, but that sounds like it has too many fetishes and few of them relate. I do however think a religious faction valuing lactation and watersports would be nice, but if I got to add a faction in it'd be matriarchal with most (if not all) herms.

>>24480

It sounds cool and gives a reason for the Arena to exist so I hope the idea goes somewhere

>>24482

>I'm not on the dev team, but that sounds like it has too many fetishes and few of them relate

But if there's content for those, then it should definitely not lock me out of those fetishes I think! Otherwise you're going down the same flawed route FC took with its future societies.

You can choose 4, and if you want another fetish that tickles your pickle: Too bad, trade one of the others you chose for it.

Maybe have the option to have flavour traits that do not actually affect the faction, and just pretend to by adding descriptions and unimportant events, while somehow unobtrusively informing you they don't?

>>24481

I'm just afraid they want to go so big that they end up going under. Great things are done slowly but firmly, getting a working alpha with the basics should be the first priority.

Why does the LC services require to register an account even as read-only?

Good morning, all.

>>24436

>if some choices in event need specific traits will they be just gone if you dont have the trait or will they show up and you just cant chose them?

They more than likely just won't show up at all. As we expand, there's going to be many variations and available choices. It would probably lead to overcrowding if we tried to show the player every conceivable choice based on their character. Since the game is open source, the player can always just view the source code for the event if they want to know what choices are available. Not the most elegant solution, but we do try to keep everything well commented, and the wiki will host the game's documentation.

>>24437

>Playable demo when?

That depends on your definition of 'playable.' The build in our repo is technically playable. You'll get about two minutes of gameplay, which mostly involves character and companion customization. But I don't consider that a bad thing for a two week old project run by volunteers.

>>24445

>Couldn't there really be some read-only access for anons? I just want to read to-do or check on the changelog every week or so, not post or edit anything.

Sorry about that, I know registration can be frustrating, but I don't particularly want the game to be overly public. For what it's worth, Kanboard is the only service that requires a valid email. You can enter crap into the other services and you'll get through. I'm going to see if I can disable the confirmation email module on Kanboard, since our server is not designed as a mail server and some hosts don't deliver the confirmation mails. But I don't plan on enabling anon access. The best I can do is agree to start using the blog for announcements and updates, which is accessible via the snake password only.

If you need a disposable email address, cock.li works.

>>24478

The About page on the blog is a bit outdated, but gives somewhat of an overview of the game. The difference between FC and LC since the rewrite started is that LC is only related to FC in genre. The content is entirely different. LC is inspired by FC, but not much beyond that. The name may change in the future to clear that ambiguity.

And yes, there will be bestiality. We're working with a fetish poll established a couple of months ago, and that is near the top.

>>24481

>Do you think factions should/will be able to cover so many fetishes at once?

Support for multiple preferences within a faction was added yesterday morning, though I haven't looked at the code to see if there's a limit on how many it supports. However, as leader of the Zone, you'll have more control over preferences than you would as just a faction.

>>24486

>Getting a working alpha with the basics should be the first priority.

Yes and no. With game development, the backend is the major priority. Sure, we could push out a minimal game with a simple backend to support it. But then you run into the FC problem where the game has trouble expanding using that backend, and performance plummets over time. Developing a proper backend takes more time, but we're doing a fine job, and our team has been pretty stable. I'm a 'measure twice, cut once' type of person. We're developing the backend that will carry us through the rest of the game. It takes longer, there's less player-visible content at the start, but it's worth it in the long run.

>>24488

I don't want the publicity. Too many comments on FC's blog came from people who were searching for something entirely different, but stumbled upon the game instead. We're just developing a game we enjoy, and I like keeping it within /hgg/, where the audience is already interested in porn games. We're not accepting donations, we don't care how many people play the game. We're just doing our thing, and want to avoid any potential controversies from randoms finding a game with the type of content LC will contain.

>>24492

>>24445

If you go to where the code is stored and click "commits" you can see every change the dev team has made

>placeholder harem event featuring xgirls

>The strong aroma of wet fur and sex

>fur

Wait, what? Since when do xgirls have fur?

>>24498

>implying the furry taint doesn't infect everything if indulged even peripherally

>>24499

I thought we had fucking agreed that we drew the line at ears, tails and fangs.

This is heresy.

>>24498

>Wait, what? Since when do xgirls have fur?

They don't. I haven't seen that event, and so it has not been proofread. There will be no fur on xgirls.

>>24502

There better be, hairless ears and tails look bloody weird. Everywhere else though, furless is fine.

>>24502

Follow-up,

Found it. It's in the lctest namespace, which contained everything for LCZ. I doubt much of that will be carried over to LC, and I don't even know who the original author of that event is.

>>24504

>and I don't even know who the original author of that event is.

A witch hunt is in order.

>>24504

M8 you have a furry inside your team

Time to preppare a witch hunt

I believe I've disabled email validation on Kanboard. If so, you don't need a valid email to register on any of our services now. Just enter crap into the registration fields (remember your username and password), and I'll apply the proper permissions as usual.

in regards to the interaction in the zone there could be a diverse number of services.

brothels-(the player can work at the brothel with a portion going to the owner of the brothel, whores owned by the brothel can be bought by the player.).),

supply depot-(a ware house with various venders selling cloths, tools, bdsm equipment for slave breaking and for your submissive slaves),

slavers complex-(three different floor for three levels of class, the floors have various businesses around an open square. the square has various individual's selling slave for cheep but with out certified papers on the slaves(patients who need medical support, former street hookers, ). there is also a bulletin board with requests for particular slaves, industry slave/worker applications, slave contracts, and where the player posts requests. the various floors are the open commoner's penny shops(former cow girls who are no longer able to lactate and are sterile, people form the orphanage who are at "adult" age, debtors selling slaves to pay off debts, shelter slaves, poor quality test subjects, and wasteland raiders selling the catch of the day.), restricted to members on the second floor(slave schools, former test subjects who have appealing results), and societial elites on the third floor.),

Colosseum-(another place of gambling on races, and gladiator battles. nearby the slavers complex to make bring in the combatants easier. for extreme bids there is sponsoring a gladiator(the player pays for armor, and weapons in a 'slave or nothing' endeavor. if successful wins back money on undamaged weapons, Armour, and wins the slave entered)),

the Advancement of zonename Research Institute(allows self experimentation for quick money but involves modification and risk if poor of health, the sale of former test subjects who are seen as not sell able to bring to the slaver complex, and will be euthanized or sent to the wastelands),

the Defense and safety council-(the back maintenance corridor is known for selling traitors, weapons for civilians, and for hiring work such as assassination, and defense. the building it's self there are criminals in stocks for the public to use, criminals are also being sold as first dibs before being sent to the Colosseum. there is a bulletin board on mercenary requests, raid requests, and body guard work.),

the education/orphanage district-(if player has high enough intellect enough can work at, features various schools and slave training firms),

a tailor-(where the player can buy more custom outfits, conservative outfits, and high wealth business attire),

the slums-(where the player can hire prostitutes, obtain cheap sometimes dangerous drugs, and hire/convince those living on the street to become slaves),

the hospital-(where those who are in the worst shape are. either unable to ask for payment of treatment, or incapable to go to the slaver complex), and

casinos-(start off as generic where you either win/lost/break even. latter have roulette wheel, poker, and slot machines)

>>24518

All good ideas. I've added your work to the Wiki for writers to look at when they start working on locations within the player's Zone. Thank you for the contribution.

>>24492

>We're working with a fetish poll established a couple of months ago, and that is near the top.

Speaking of which, is there some place I can still look at the poll? It would be interesting to see what people answered. Either way is fine though, and I hope you'll keep on making polls where they're necessary. They're a great way to gather suggestions.

>>24521

http://poal.me/7kc5cq

it is also on the blog site along side nationality poll.

>>24522

I know, but all I am getting is a blank page except for a written "nip", so I thought the poll was closed.

Is it just me having this problem?

>>24521

>Speaking of which, is there some place I can still look at the poll?

We keep all of the polls we're currently tracking on our blog.

https://blog.librecities.net/community-polls/

The fetish poll will probably run for the duration of the project. We'll continue polling 8ch as well, as it's really our primary source of input.

>>24524

>I know, but all I am getting is a blank page except for a written "nip", so I thought the poll was closed.

I think that is a problem with poal.me. We had an internal poll the other day, and some users reported the same issue. Might have to self-host polls if that continues to be a problem.

So here are some ideas: The original set of laws set before you are rich and/or famous and able to change them should call for a certain standard of living for slaves. This would lead to police house raids on "bad" slave owners or on PCs that made the wrong enemies that could be paid off or later when you own the Arcology ended completely or you could pick what area raided and when to control your rich peers. Also some slaves should be held higher than normal citizens depending on who owns them and to explain it easily I'll put the populace in a tier list: Tier 0 - Arcology Owner/Leader; Tier 1 - Top Class; Tier 2 - High Class; Tier 3 - Higher Middle Class; Tier 4 - Middle Class; Tier 5 - Lower Middle Class; Tier 6 - Low Class; Tier 7 - Slave; Tier 8 - Not Regarded as Human. Rebellious slaves or slaves that are obedient but still don't really care you could have the same social standing as those 4 or 5 below their master, devoted slaves and slaves that accept their standing would be 3 tiers below, slaves with important jobs would be 2 tiers below, head slave would be 1 tier below, and spouse (not concubine) of the owner being the same tier as said owner. Unwanted properties (like race, gender, implants, etc.) could lower a person's tier by 1 and being a family member of a rich person raises the tier by 1 or 2, but no slave could be on equal standing with their owner unless they were married with them. This would only be the default and the PC would be allowed to make their slaves tier lower (but or higher than the default). Of course this whole tier system for slaves could be entirely discarded when the player becomes Arcology head and could make every slave either on par with their owner or worth dog shit.

This could lead to events like slaves faking how they feel about the PC so they have more power, more money for brothels since poor(er) people would like fucking people higher than their tier, a basic caste system for some shenanigans, a racial event where a slave that is of a less desired race dominates a citizen of an esteemed race because they are poor, or people furious that a slave with an undesired trait has a high standing than most people with a desired trait.

About laws, I think you should be punished for breaking any laws if any (depends what kind of zone you're in, some could execute you on spot while others are just slap on the wrist and everything in between)?

I honestly have no idea why a theoretical game without any release whatsoever has gotten so much attention. I mean, I get that Free Cities is popular, and that people want to see more extreme content, but jesus guys OP hasn't actually done anything yet.

>>24561

Cool, but you'd have to toggle different things.

Like if you need to pay fines or get tortured for breaking the law. Guy A might not want to get his PC fucked, while Guy B might even look forward to having folks take a piss on his PC.

>>24563

>but jesus guys OP hasn't actually done anything yet.

205 commits of absolutely nothing. Makes sense.

https://git.librecities.net/LibreCities/Libre-Cities/commits/master

>>24567

> Sorry if this sounds too ambitious.

It seems to me that nobody on this thread really cares about overly ambitious suggestions

>>24563

I honestly have no idea why someone who thinks there isn't any work done gives two shits enough to making an asshole complaint. Are YOU not getting enough attention Anon? Does no one love you? Did you and your dog run out of peanut butter?

Havent been following much but how were you planning on making the protag?

As in is there a gender choice?

Can you only fuck others or can they fuck you too?

>>24581

Since LC is atm not much more than a thread where people can tell you what they would have liked to be in FC, I am pretty sure "Libre Cities" will have a gender choice and include others fucking you.

Will slaves be able to have multiple fetishes?

>>24590

>>23615

>>23620

yes

If I wanted to contribute to the project as a writer, how would I go about doing so?

>>24567

Already been asked if it would happen but the PC enslavement would be a game of its own was the reply so its not gonna happen.

>>24561

I think something was said about not overly punishing the player for things in ways that would result in loss of limbs or worse so really doubt thats gonna happen.

>>24581

You can choose either and customise your body.

>>24593

https://blog.librecities.net/recruitment/

Will marriage be included in the game?

LCDevs, you do realize that you, in certain respects, attempt the most ambitious and glorious erogame ever?

You do realize how much hope we put in you and how much disappointment there'll be if you'll fuck it up?

Other than that:

Questions - the public poll of fetishes, if I am not mistaken, developed over time as votes were added. Do you plan vote reset at some point so people can vote fresh on all choices? If there weren't some of them before, the poll may not show exact prferences of community as people who voted before may have wanted to vote on things that weren't in.

If all the choices were there since poll's creation and it's just my memory that fucks with me, excuse me.

Also, will all the options be worked upon, with priority dependant on number of votes or just certain number of the top ones will be introduced? I understand that there's so much shit that you cannot spread yourself too thin, but if someone would write some scenes and content, would it be accepted if of sufficient quality no matter the fetishes it panders to?

Other than that, I wait patiently for public version. I especially adore lack of SJW bullshit and taste censoring - all kinds of fetishes and deviations are there, just not everyone has to indulge all of them, leaving the choice to the player - I won't like quite some of them myself but as long as there are others I can like and choose them over the rest, I am fine.

Also, I really hope that the customization of fetishes and players preferences changing the world would be concentrated on. It doesn't seem too important at first, but kind of sandbox tailored to what one prefers may be one of the biggest selling points.

I do hope one will be able to choose preference for many kinks and go against many others per one faction. It's somewhat risky but could be managed by deciding some "order of importance" or even ways in which certain fetishes affect faction and its design. If I like, for example, tomboys, nekogirls and androids, I'd like to have those kinks be expressed in different areas of life instad of getting a faction of robotic tomboy nekogirls (which aren't a bad thing on their own - but too much blending would be bad).

Many games never end up being finished because the developers have plans which are just too ambitious, and they keep adding things along the way.

I honestly suggest creating something that has less features than what you're currently planning, and after that's finished you can think about adding more and more.

You can be overly ambitious and all, but in the end all you're gonna end up with is me being able to be smug by saying "I told you so"

>>24600

> I especially adore lack of SJW bullshit and taste censoring - all kinds of fetishes and deviations are there, just not everyone has to indulge all of them, leaving the choice to the player - I won't like quite some of them myself but as long as there are others I can like and choose them over the rest, I am fine.

I'm 2nd for that. The more depraved, the better, LCDev.

>>24600

Not dev - going from whats been in other treads here

Poll reset - no reason, people can just untick what they voted for and vote for whatever else they wanted. Choices can also be added whenever but only 1 per person.

The options come down to two things - popularity and work. If somethings popular its likely to get into the game at some point unless they have a reason against it, memes for examples is something stupid that wouldn't fit. Though if someone does the work for that particular thing for example headpats, then they would only need to do a little to include headpats as its been done already.

Faction thing - multiple preference support was added on the morning of the 22nd apparently.

on combat: the system could have a vat esk combat with generic player attack available for those who don't want to actively attack. there would be two 'modes' offensive, and defensive. in defensive it turns gears of war. the player if unlocked nano tech can recover health but would do very little, throw grenades blindly with a chance of hitting, use med packs to heal, but could be blown up by grenades(so wait for the end of the fight if you want to blowup everyone wait for the enemy to run out of grenades). in offensive mode the player attacks, either going melee and at high risk, shotting(based on either accuracy or combat skill) with basically a gun with bullets, tranquillizer, or aphrodisiac (with power of the chemical rounds from tech tree). the player can use medical pack. the combat slaves, and mercenaries brought with fight and take commands from the player(get down, attack, fall back). although this can be the realistic version.

in a less realistic it could use a multi character rpg fight system either real-time for those who want more action, or turn based. the menu would have retreat, melee, shoot(same as realistic), items(use medical supplies, grenades, Molotov tails), and taking cover.

the game should go for the more simple version.

in terms of time progression if the fortresses(zones with power) became a thing with slaves working schedules there could be three more periods(twilight, night, and sunrise/pre-dawn). so if the player has x space in one of the building for people to work in there could be two or more shifts to give more work for less space. just have the nights events concentrated into a basic synopsis

Good morning, all.

>>24581

>As in is there a gender choice?

Yes. You can currently choose to be male or female, and the sexual options of both are available to both genders. We currently don't have a dedicated futa choice, but you can still make a futa character. This is already in the game in our repo if you want to try it out.

>Can you only fuck others or can they fuck you too?

There's no lore limit on who can fuck who, as there was with FC. It's just a matter of having people write those scenes.

>>24590

>Will slaves be able to have multiple fetishes?

Yes, and multiple aversions.

>>24596

>Will marriage be included in the game?

Yes.

>>24600

>Do you plan vote reset at some point so people can vote fresh on all choices?

We originally planned to have that poll run throughout the life of this project, but with some people encountering the 'nip' issue on poal.me, we may start a new self-hosted poll. The results from the existing one would obviously be saved.

>Also, will all the options be worked upon, with priority dependant on number of votes or just certain number of the top ones will be introduced?

That's really up to the writers. I make sure everyone is aware of the poll, and encourage them to keep it in mind when writing (people are already working on incest and bestiality content), but I can't force them to write about anything in particular. We will introduce as many fetishes as people will write content for.

>>24601

>Many games never end up being finished because the developers have plans which are just too ambitious, and they keep adding things along the way.

We move like a snail against a strong breeze, but I personally have all of the time in the world for this.

>>24636

>We move like a snail against a strong breeze, but I personally have all of the time in the world for this.

I don't think most people that have voiced misgivings about the project are unaware of the fact this is a project of passion.

What people are concerned is with feature creep. We've gone from a simple mod meant to add unsupported fetishes to Free Cities, to a standalone "branch" with performance as the goal, to what is amounting to be the Dwarf Fortress of porn.

And there is a reason Dwarf Fortress is unique in the whole of gaming, and we've seen plenty of ambitious projects over the years fail because the team tried to do too much and somewhere along the line lost any interest to keep going without delivering anything substantial.

Now, I'm not saying this is the case here, I'm just shedding light on why people call the project into question.

Also, no need to reply to me, I have no wish to derail the thread further.

And for everyone that is complaining, have patience, wait and see what is presented to the public and voice your criticism then, but if you have criticism that is more substantial than "This is too complex for you to tackle" and "You will definitely fail" be sure to post about it, and to those that react violently to these kinds of posts, keep in mind that blind fanboyism is not healthy for any project.

Well We have a personal assistant like in FC, and if so can it be a full AI,

>>24652

I'd love to have an AI waifu you can turn to flesh.

>>24652

Well We have a personal assistant like in FC, and if so can it be a full AI.

At the start of the game, no (at least not until the 'Start as Zone Leader' option is available). As you progress, you will have the chance to acquire/purchase an AI assistant.

You will be able to implant the AI into a cybernetic or organic (slave) body.

>>24757

Ok, how's about an almost dead caravan comes to your zone/city/rape dungeon and is looking for sanctuary, the possible choices could be to take their children/ wives / husbands(if that's what you want) as payment, have them pay with coin, have them owe you a favor in return, or just be a good little thing and let them in free. of kick them out…. you bastard

>>24757

a serial slave rapist running rampant in the arcology

Wait..it sez the one avilable for downlaod is OLD.

How the hell do I get the new version? Where the hell is this repository?

https://wiki.librecities.net/doku.php?id=game:development:worldbuilding:characters:physical

Futa should be

Futa: Considered female. Breasts, yes. Vagina, yes. Penis, yes. Balls, no.

instead of

Considered female. Breasts, yes. Vagina, no. Penis, yes. Balls, no.

Balless but without a vagina would be more of a dickgirl than a futa. Perhaps there should be some sort of poll on this though? But yeah from my understanding the near universal consensus on futanari is that they have vaginas and a penis. whether they have balls or not is the thing that tend to vary.

This might be a better break down:

Female: Considered female. Breasts, yes. Vagina, yes, Penis, no, Balls, no.

Male: Considered male. Breasts, no. Vagina, no. Penis, yes, Balls, yes.

Shemale: Considered female. Breasts, yes. Vagina, no. Penis, yes. Balls, yes.

Cuntboy: Considered male (via facial masculinity). Breasts, no. Vagina, yes. Penis, no. Balls, no.

Dickgirl: Considered female. Breasts, yes. Vagina, no. Penis, yes. Balls, no.

Eunuch: Considered male. Breasts, no. Vagina, no. Penis, yes. Balls, no.

Futa: Considered female. Breasts, yes. Vagina, Yes. Penis, yes. Balls, no.

Here is where things admittedly get more fuzzy

FemHerm?: Considered (F?). Breasts, yes, Vagina, yes. Penis, yes. Balls, yes.

MaleHerm: Considered (M?). Breasts, no, Vagina, yes. Penis, yes. Balls, yes.

MFuta? (some sort of masculine equivalent to futa): Considered (M?). Breasts, no, Vagina, yes. Penis, yes. Balls, no.

>>24800

Futas may or may not have balls but they are still capable of producing semen

>>24779

>How the hell do I get the new version? Where the hell is this repository?

https://git.librecities.net/LibreCities/Libre-Cities

>>24800

>Female: Considered female

>Male: Considered male

Wait, wait, hold down your horses partner, im getting lost here

>>24804

Can we just settle on XX and XY, as in, birth gender and not venture into uncharted waters of Marxism?

>>24807

Wait, I thought Marxists were a Faction, along with Militant Feminists, Vore Furries, and PedoVan Space Explorers?

>>24807

Wait, wait. The way he means it is like gender works in FC atm.

You can choose between tits/no tits and vagina/dick.

But you can additionally select to be called master or mistress.

"Considered female" is probably his equivalent to "Call me mistress".

Hello all,

We're looking to gather input on the currency system used by LC. Sure, we could go with literally any currency and no one would care much, but we want to put a bit more thought into it than that.

There's a couple aspects we're taking into consideration:

Practicality:

Fiat currency would be relatively worthless (and it brings questions like "Who has the resources to issue it in large quantities?" and "Why would it be honored across various Zones and wasteland settlements?). I think we're aiming more for a resource that has value beyond a currency. One example discussed was small sheets of various metals (copper, gold, platinum, etc). But that led to issues where people would have to remember and convert the value of each metal, and the player would somehow have to lug sheets of metal with them everywhere. Another idea was salt. Salt was an extremely valuable food preservative prior to refrigeration, and while the Zones do have an electrical grid, salt would remain valuable, particularly throughout the wasteland. But we're back to the issue of the player lugging around piles of salt. Not very practical.

Quantity:

This is both a lore and technical aspect. On the lore side, resources are valuable because they are now scarce. It wouldn't make much sense for the player to drop three tons of gold bars for a slave, as the supply of gold has suddenly risen dramatically. On the technical side, we're working with a relatively limited UI. Long numbers consume space, and when long enough, wrap to a second line. This is rather inconvenient and difficult to read. We'd prefer to keep quantities relatively small (eg; you would be extremely wealthy when in possession of tens of thousands of whatever currency).

Side Note:

I really liked the way Metro 2033 handled the currency system. Pre-war military cartridges were used as currency, but they also had a gameplay use as well. The player's decision to hoard or use these cartridges was an important and interesting dynamic. However, I can't think of any resources that the player in LC would be using in a similar manner, so I don't think we're going to be able to introduce a system with these qualities.

So, we're interested in your feedback on this aspect of the game. We don't want to over-complicate it, but something more sound than 'credits' would be nice.

Drugs might actually serve as light weight high value substances that could serve as currency.

http://www.businessinsider.com/most-valuable-substances-by-weight-2014-9/#plutonium-13

Gold is around $40 USD per gram whereas heroin and meth are around $110- $120

Cocaine is $600 per gram

LSD $3000 per gram

In a lawless future where they aren't controlled substances the value will probably be significantly deflated but they would still likely hold a decent amount of value and be much lighter than lugging around metal or salt.

>>24861

Why not use multiple and have a total value of what that's worth, then there is more flexibility. Something very valuable, though less viable to use as currency, is blood - the universal donor is much rarer than others and so would be worth more. It would need to be checked for type and it wouldn't last that long (i think) outside the body when travelling but still an option.

Oh and why would the name and age areas of origins show up with errors? They beeingt messed with?

>>24861

I'd go with something vague. Call it Origin: Origin is the wonderdrug/base tech of the far future. It's like stem cells that can coaxed into writing circuit boards. It was ubiquitous and common, but it's not being made anymore and it has to be harvested from old tech. So it's got a barter value and a labor cost, but who gives a shit because the most important thing is that you don't have to talk about what it does. It does stuff. It's magic. It's necessary to fuel your giant boob-making machines and also to turn the lights on. This allows things that might not have a "cost" to have costs. You can't spend a dollar no one wants, but everyone wants and NEEDS Origin.

>>24861

I think paper money or metal coins would be acceptable. The explanation could be that it's just a thing that carried over from society before its fall. It's hard to make a commodity based currency, since transportation of things like salt or metal sheets over long distances requires a lot of work. Look at ancient civilizations and you'll see that almost everyone used coins/ingots at some point.

Sure, you could use food/commodities as a form of payment, but traveling with a large amount of it would be ridiculous. Look at Ancient China, Greece, or Rome. Most of them had a coin/ingot system for money because it's easier.

If you really want a unique currency, do both. Salt for smaller amounts, but coins/ingots are worth a bunch of salt.

>>24861

for shits and giggles, make the currency lego bricks. They'll last longer than paper money, they're light, and there are millions of them.

>>24874

Oh my god dude yes. All those sets would be worth millions each.

>>24874

>lego bricks

Shit man just imagine how that would affect society and business transactions

>owe someone money

>fail to pay them back

>they drag your ass to court (or the LC equivalent)

>You are eventually forced to pay

>but wait

>the court also rules that you must now step on each lego you owed as a form of interest

Most painful currency in the world

>>24861

This could lead to some kind of bartering system. In a wasteland, money pretty much loses all meaning. You can't expect something like bottlecaps to become popular all over.

I'd think you'd have to haggle over material goods instead. So if you wanted to buy arms for your guards for instance, you could divert a small amount of power to the arcology you're buying from to pay for them.

You would needed a type of unit measurement to how much a slave is worth though. Might just be better to go with Gold, because that never goes out of style.

If a zone is being run by someone in charge and can sustain its population it makes sense it would have its own currency. So I think the best idea would be for each zone to use its own currency. In the wasteland these currencies are usually interchangeable due to traders/travellers. So one Zone may use paper currency. Another may use little metallic sticks of various materials for various values (copper, gold ect, in the shape similar to pocky, lightweight, stacks heavy and low weight, real currency can be identified by specific indentions or serial numbers). Then another zone you could go the Metro way they use military grade ammo.

>>24861

>>24902

Using prewar ammo as currency sounds like a very cool idea

Any chance enforced chastity for penises? I wanted to make a club full of chaste traps

>>24951

Seconding chastity, but for choices for every orifice as well

>>24861

>Fiat currency would be relatively worthless (and it brings questions like "Who has the resources to issue it in large quantities?" and "Why would it be honored across various Zones and wasteland settlements?). I think we're aiming more for a resource that has value beyond a currency. One example discussed was small sheets of various metals (copper, gold, platinum, etc)

Crudely minted golden silver coins could be an answer

It always was and will be valuable commodity

And can add addition layer of curstomization like types of coins minted, maybe coins with PC face on it? Maybe with a landmark? etc…

>>24861

>Long numbers consume space, and when long enough, wrap to a second line.

No need for those, take a look at ancient economy eg. Babylon

A laborer got around 2 silver shekels per year

A guard got around 5-6 shekels per year

You could buy a slave for 12 shekels

i write this from memory but you get the idea, the numbers dont need to be huge

>>24966

You don't even have to go that far back. Nips had a monetary system based on rice for the longest time where one koku was equivalent to one person's yearly consumption.

Of course there were coins of various values in the economy, but administrative economy used koku almost exclusively iirc.

>>24861

An interesting way to deal with this problem is to simply allow many different forms of currency. It might seem overly complex, but I think that it could be a very beneficial addition to the theme/gameplay.

Different factions might have their own currencies, or commonly aligned ones might use the same in order to improve the ease of commerce. This would be reflected in game by perhaps a buff to currency values if it's widely adopted.

Thematically, this aids in the feeling of isolation and collapse - some factions might trade in old money, others might have regressed to a "barter" system, some might use a futuristic 'credit chit'. It helps differentiate the various groups you will run into.

All the currencies will functionally be the same, except for different values that rise and fall. This is probably the biggest problem because of the backend complexity - you could have a global price for goods or services that changes, and then each currency has a 'ratio' that can also fluctuate, and then you will do some mathemagics to calculate conversions and such.

This system would necessitate a lot of automation so the player isn't forced to roleplay as an accountant. It could be explained in game by players having a device of some kind that automatically converts/displays currency values for you.

IDK, this might be overly complex or just a stupid concept, but I hope that you can pull some ideas out of the mess and that it can help you design something creative and fun.

Have to admit it looks tempting and I'm toying with throwing in an app, that said though I kind of want to see a proper build first…

>>24971

I actually like it. I would keep currency in every case as some symbolic item (mainly I have a problem with barter unless you can store lots of different stuff and then trade them for other stuff with worth of each item being displayed with some values without actual currency for that one) or even data. Hi-tech faction of androids, augmented humans and autonoous fuck machines may provide player, some traders etc with just some small, heavily secure and encrypted device that "stores" their currency (kind of like bitcoin), some somewhat industrialized civilization may actually make their own coins or small, thin, flat "tickets" out of valuable metals and some other print its paper cash.

>>24861

water merchant tokens, which are old bottle caps from before the world went to shit.

>>24971

>An interesting way to deal with this problem is to simply allow many different forms of currency. It might seem overly complex, but I think that it could be a very beneficial addition to the theme/gameplay.

You could just make it a variable that the player could change to "shekels" or "bottle caps" or "old world ammo" or keep as credits?

I don't know why the economic system needs a lot of focus on the labels. The main thing is that it provides the gatekeeping control on access to parts of the game. It's not a real currency and you're unlikely to code in a real robust supply and demand chain anyways, so why stress?

>>24861

> But that led to issues where people would have to remember and convert the value of each metal, and the player would somehow have to lug sheets of metal with them everywhere.

>and the player would somehow have to lug sheets of metal with them everywhere.

Minting crude money is not that hard

>>24861

This might be a slight inspiration

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Currency

>>24757

An unidentified object crashes and damage one of the facility of your city ( loss of money ) it appears to be some kind of asteroid inhabited by primitive lifeform ( parasite or virus ). The slaves occupying the affected facility suffers either random body modification, illness damage or parasitic pregnancy.

>>24998

parasitic pregnancy would be like a permanent pregnancy state where the slave would hatch/birth a parasite after X amount of time which could spread to other slaves.

To cure the parasitic pregnancy, send the slave to the medical ward for Y amount of time.

>>24998

I'd rather have ti made into proper bigger, semi-random event. Have virus/parasite effects randomized each time the event happens (once or twice per gameplay, though I wouldn't mind it if player could make their own) with the effects mentioned but also some warning and hint about what its effects may be (so those who dislike particular content can avoid it).

I also would like some mental alterations. For example, if meteor isn't sterilized to kill parasites/virus straight away or no quarantine is set allowing research/investigate, I'd like full blown Kansen scenario with people turning into-sex crazed maniacs with nothing but constant sex in mind.

>>24861

Asset based currency (either directly or via notes with a given value) is generally either a staple (Japan used rice) or a "rare"/"valuable" material with little or no practical use (silver and gold, also the Nuka Cola bottlecaps of Fallout).

Useful items are generally the currency of choice for purely barter based economies, in which case every item is valued separately and differently by each individual/group.

Fiat currency (such as the current US Dollar) is backed purely by the reputation and perceived value of the issuing agency… And tends to have a shelf life before it collapses (average of 40-50 years - Side note, the fiat dollar is going on the old age side.)

Personally, I'd suggest using a staple food as the basis - It has direct survival connotations, and is an immediate measure of your nation's "wealth" and ability to support its population at the same time. (Ex: Japan used the koku - The amount of rice it took to feed a person for a year.)

>>25010

If that doesn't sound too ambitious I guess this event could be developed further as you described.

I'd like to add that male shouldn't be able to develop male pregnancy without some kind of extreme content warning. Parasites could nest in male the male genitalia instead?

Good morning all. The currency feedback has been extremely insightful, and I'm very grateful for all of your contributions. One of our writers has begun work on the system, and it will be available for review.

>>24951

>Any chance enforced chastity for penises? I wanted to make a club full of chaste traps

Yes. You will be able to enforce chastity for every hole, on both genders.

Question: How much of what can happen to slaves/companions can (or will) also apply to the player?

Pregnancy? Aging? Raids from elsewhere that are finally fought off but not before they have their way with their people of choice and escape with part of your stock?

>>25023

Since work on pregnancy has started, are there any new specifics about what determines the properties the child gets from the parents and whether the PC has any control over what the child's traits (physical and/or otherwise)

>>24757

Nothing special right now but I think some generic slave recruit events would be good, like FC has. So something like once you start getting a reputation if your slaves love you then you'll have people seeking you out. They'll ask you to enslave them or their family members because they're unable to financial support themselves or are looking for a better life. Most likely young people, women who are pregnant or women with snakes.

Some generic events for finding mistreated/abandoned slaves would be another thing. Like you encounter a person kicking and stomping on their slave who tells them to get lost and never come back.

>>25093

Forgot to continue. On a side note, how do you guys feel about xeno-stuff? I'm partial to the fetish, and wrote all this stuff up on a whim, but judging by my work on mutations, it seems to be pretty attached to the mechanics. Is this okay?

Mutations seem like trying to cultivate bonuses, and the way I wrote Xeno Mutations allows those bonuses to be locked in and passed down seamlessly through generations. I realize Libre Cities is a game about indulging in weird fetishes, but I also realize that I should have taken a step back and looked at this objectively: I made a mistake when I put so much detail into mutations, and made Xenos stuff so mechanically useful/important.

Is this a problem? Are you guys okay with Xeno and mutations in the position it's currently in, or do you think one or both should be rewritten to cater to less specific fetishes?

I'm not going to pretend this is a huge issue, it's just a porn game, but part of my job as a writer is to note play favorites with the mechanics, and I think I've done just that.

Please share your thoughts on the Mutations system, and the Xenos influence. Sorry if I'm rambling, I'm slightly drunk.

>>25094

>On a side note, how do you guys feel about xeno-stuff?

I absolutely love the parasite/infestation content

>The zone's economy is based on the most common building materiel they have around, scrap iron, which is commonly found in the ruins of the old world.

Fugg i wanted o mint golden coins with dick on the reverse side

>>25023

Just read the economy page on the wiki; apparently, the currency is scrap iron now? This seems like a bizarre choice given all the feedback. Iron isn't something like salt or rice that the average person has a use for (who has a forge in their home?), so it's more analogous to something like gold or silver where the primary reason for acquiring it is to use it for trade. The problem is, unlike gold or silver, iron is used all over the place in construction and other practical applications. In a society where iron's the primary currency, all your nuts and bolts, screws and nails are equivalent to cash. You wouldn't be able to leave anything unguarded or it'd get ripped apart for all the easily accessible bits of iron; people'd be tearing chunks out of buildings for its cash value.

On top of that, iron is most often found as a alloy---you don't normally build stuff out of pure iron, you use steel. How's that play into the currency system? Different pieces of scrap iron would have differing iron contents. How's the average citizen supposed to evaluate how much a chunk of metal's worth in day-to-day transactions? I guess you could have a central body test and certify the scrap then present the owner with an affidavit of the value of the metal; but at that point, you're basically using a commodity-backed paper currency.

Zones really should be using a commodity-based or even fiat currency anyway. As far as I can tell, Zones have organized power structures. Wealth is concentrated at the top so, basically, anything the Zone's Sovereign deems valuable is valuable within that Zone. This should be sufficient to establish whatever the hell the Sovereign wants as a Zone-wide currency. Zones should have a stable currency-based economy unless Sovereigns are overthrown constantly by idiots that refuse to acknowledge the previous Sovereign's currency.

Inter-Zone trade would be more complicated, of course. There's no reason the Sovereign of one Zone should recongnize another's currency. However, there's not enough information available on the wiki to really speculate on the matter. I couldn't find any indication as to how common trade is between Zones, how many Zones exist on the continent, how they're distributed, or even if roads exist or not.

Speaking of the inadequacies of the wiki, I really hope you guys have design documents not accessible on the public wiki because what is available for public viewing is vague, overly-wordy, and contradictory. For example, the "Origins" article can be summarize in the following points:

snip for length

>>25108

continued

* climate change -> natural disasters

*world-wide disenfranchisement + natural disasters == tyrannical governments -> global conflict -> global nuclear war ~100 years ago -> all of Earth uninhabitable outside of Zones

* all of the above is unreliable 'cause it's from stories the PC has heard, not fact

* other stuff that may or may not have existed: cities, bunkers with old world tech, stealthy cannabalitic beast-men, big ole death robots

* laser weaponry and flying vehicles are rare and getting rarer

I had to read 778 words for that pittance of information; this summary is 75 words, only 12 of which is confirmed fact. If your actual design docs are written like these wiki articles and not as some sort of easily referenced summary, I feel sorry for your writers who have to dig through word salad every time they want to make sure what they're writting fits canon. Of course, maybe it's not actually a problem because there's barely any canon to adhere to. Going through the "finalized" articles related to the setting (skipping Origins and Currency because I've been hard enough on them already), here're some questions I jotted down while reading:

Zone:

*Since immigration is rare, what's the PC's reason for being allowed in? Why's there no article establishing the PC's background anyway (backgrounds? PC's customizable, right?). Surely that should be a priority.

*How does having security forces independent from government "avoid […] the follies of Pre-Fall justice systems"? What's it even mean for security forces to be independent in a dictatorship anyway? Is there a difference between hiring a guy to be head of security and appointing a guy to be head of security and paying him a salary?

*What are the living conditions like? The ruling classes seem to have access to all the future tech of the Pre-Fall society, but how's the under-class live? Is it like Star Wars where even the poor have access to advanced tech but it's all run-down, or are they practically living in the stone age?

*Zones are layered, but how exactly? Is each district on a different level? How's it organized? How're the levels connected? Are the levels closed off from each other or can you look down from a higher level to a lower one? How big and open are we talking roughly? Population density? Tall buildings or short and squat?

*Power, water, lights, food, climate-control. What are the sources of each?

*What challenges the Zone's existence? Raiders? Wildlife? Insurrection? Invasion from other Zones? Scarcity?

*How stable is the Zone politically?

*Just how extensive is the Sovereign's access to technology? Could he fly around the world he wanted to? Build a robot army? Internet?

*What are the Aldermen Industries exactly?

*Exports are mentioned in passing. Does that mean there are established trade routes between Zones, or with outside communities?

*Nationality is something that's being built into the game as part of a poll. Does that mean the Zone the PC ends up in is highly multicultural to start with or are other nationalities primarily going to be acquired through trade implying an international trade network exists? If international trade is a thing, the world sure seems better off than the Origins article makes it sound.

snip again, why the fuck is there no character count/limit in the reply popup?

>>25109

continued

Location:

*Mutated killer wildlife, y/n?

*Roads?

*No fresh water nearby? Whoever built this Zone was an idiot.

Starting House:

*Are you living in a bunker within the Zone which is already a bunker? wtf?

*What's dripping? I thought water was scarce.

*Wind indoors?

*This whole article is pretty unclear or I fail horribly at reading comprehension. Are you living in an open, tennis court-sized bunker that's subdivided by curtains where you have a small "bedroom" area but the rest of the shelter is shared with roommates? Kinda like a loft's floorplan (if a single open room can be called a floorplan)?

*Cooking? Waste, bodily and otherwise?

Districts:

*This article could really use a crude map showing where places are in relation to each other and maybe a rough size comparison.

*Is the Expanse basically just the patch of land outside the main gate?

*The arena-based justice system seems pretty dumb. Make criminals fight then the winner goes free? Sure, let's just let the strongest criminals back into society to do more crime.

*"[…] oftentimes is doomed to the semidarkness that is ever present." I haven't pointed out bad writing/grammar until now; but, goddamn, this snippet was too much or maybe it was just the last straw. I'm sorry whoever wrote this; I'm sure this isn't a fair representation of your writing.

*Why are there "exiled criminals" inside the caves off of the Breakers? Shouldn't they have been exiled outside?

*I thought all Wastelanders granted entry ends up in the Breakers, but just below, it says all refugees end up in the Underbelly. How're refugees different from Wastelanders given entry? Why're refugees even being allowed in? I thought entry was highly exclusive (cf. the Zones article).

*Why are Wastelanders brought in as anything other than slaves anyway? Are they all intended to be laborers in the "industries" (whatever these industries are, it's never specified). Why wouldn't they just free slaves to fill laborer spots and have all new comers enter as slaves?

*Shogun district? Really? Was the first sovereign a weaboo?

Look, I don't have access to all your dev discussions so maybe all this is already hammered out. But, when you label a bunch of setting-establishing articles "finalized" while leaving more questions than answers, it makes me a touch concerned about how organized your writing efforts are. I know everyone's a volunteer so you can't be all that strict, but you really need to prioritize a firm outline or a lot of work's going to go to waste, need massive refactoring, or just clash horribly. I hope you do have a plan and simply haven't released it to the public. On the other hand, it's a porn game. Maybe no one gives a shit about a cohesive story. I guess that'd be a valid approach as well.

Anyway, enough of me being an autistic downer. Keep up the good work and best of luck.

>>25108

>>25109

>>25110

writers got btfo in 3 post whech are more thought out than the entier wiki

>>24766

Same downer as above, here to be a downer again. Sorry.

I'm not going to nit-pick the writing itself, you guys have an editor, I'm sure it'll be fine. My major issue here is that too many assumptions are made about the player character.

You start off in an orgy, but what if you're role-playing a celibate or monogamous PC or you're just not into group sex? Then there's the fantsizing about the daughters bit which doesn't work for players that aren't into girls. Next is the whole malice in your voice thing. What if you've been playing a goody-two-shoes all game long?

And keep in mind the old mantra of "show, don't tell". Use physical descriptions and let the reader fill in the emotions as much as possible. If you done your job correctly, the reader should understand your intentions. (What the heck does "eyes flicker with a hint of resignation" even look like?)

Anyway, again, this is just me being an autistic downer. Don't be disheartened; there's promise here.

>>25093

How about option to infestate other slaves and/or spread infestation willingly?

>>25115

Dunno how autistic I'd call mysef, but I kinda agree with this anon. It seems that one of the biggest priorities of LC was to be freedom and the game responsing to the players - their fetishes, goals, ways to go about some business etc. Most important then (even more than adding bazillion of kinks) should be making sure that player's character isn't railroaded into particular behavior if player themselves didn't hint at their approach toward the whole matter.

Also, I suggest balancing length with quantity. Sometimes a decent paragraph of simple descriptions reads and serves the player more than whole scene written down as if it'd be a book - a problem that, depending on the reader, sometimes fenoxo's titles suffered from (yes, yes, among other issues).

Writer part of LCDevteam - please consider, rather than writing great, big stories - making several smaller blurbs to cover different attitudes and options - not only it'll allow you to tackle ambitious plans of including so many fetishes more reliably and easily, it will also add certain importance to some seriously important for the plot or the player, game-changing scenes which will deserve longer descriptions.

I know people want to spread their wings and write with passion about what they like, but many players concentrate just on a few sentences in a say, sex scene when the scene is for some generic, repeatedly encountered event or enemy which content of you know sooner or later many will be just skipping, unless particularly favoring it.

- A couple of ones that describe how the whole scene started (attitude of both parties, kind of approach to the whole thing)

>"She gives you a wicked, predatory grin and tackles you to the ground, not wasting time in attempt to straddle you."

>"With a blush on her face, she smiles nervously, avoiding eye contact and slowly spreading her legs."

- A couple of ones that describe how the whole thing proceeds (how it is done, with what intesity)

>"Turned mad by the aphrodisiacs flowing through her veins, she moves fast - fucking you wildly in an attempt to reach orgasm as quickly as possible."

>"She takes you down to the very base of your cock, silently but steadily deepthroating you, sucking and massaging whole length of your shaft with her tongue, all the time maintaining an expression without a hint of emotion"

- And a few sentences describing the finale (achieving orgasm, actions following the act just before returning control to the player)

>"Soon you're unable to hold it and empty your balls in her needy cunt as she closes her eyes and rides the waves of her own orgasm. However, merely seconds later, she looks at you, moans 'More..' and starts moving once again. Unable to resist her, you're being raped for a long time till your exhaustion makes you drift away…"

>"With a few last, rough thrusts you cum in orifice of the tentacle. It tries to suck, squeeze and milk every last drop out of you, after which it obediently retracts back to its box."

I am not much of a writer, more a consumer (those examples were written on the fly, though if they're not crappy enough and you like them, feel free to use them) but I hope it's understandable: several sentences of each going by this scheme and you're done with a whole scene - good enough for mobs, sexdroids, pet tentacle monsters, random sex slaves and other such scenes of no great personal importance. Even more so, if you'd make enough of those and then tag them depending on the type of creature, intelligence and disposition, you could reuse/semi-randomize scenes for different mobs and less-specific kinks, having them finished and in game even before getting a writer do some scenes for that creature/event in particular.

>>25094

I am absolutely uninterested in "typical" parasite content (something latching upon fusing with a person), but I like idea of certain mind alteration and partial or complete mutation into some creepy and/or sex-driven monster, humanoid or not - so parasite could work with that.

However, I'd far, far more prefer xeno content in form of "natural" unearhtly creatures. Sexualized xenomorphs (still as slim and dangerous predators, but with small feminine features and less of the whole "claws, teeth and acidic blood" thing) and other intelligent yet feral creatures that cannot be easily categorized neither as "dumb animal" nor "like a human" but just "alien" are quite an interesting thing. I also like tentacles equipped to pleasure both males and females in different ways depending on the creature and preference of the player, as in the example of "tentacle onahole" I've provided in >>25121

As for event as you wrote it. It's interesting though what I had in mind in regards to preventing unwanted content was be a set of options even before what you've suggested (which talk with slave could be an option in case no immediate purging of the meteor nor establishing a quarantine is done), along the lines of:

[an event for when PC actually has some role in a faction]

>One of your scouts reports an object which fell certain distance from location of your

[where do players and their factions live in anyway before turning into big world players? (Bigger) houses? Villages? Bunkers?].

>No matter if it's a meteor or remains of one of the old, manmade objects falling into and burning in the atmosphere after years of abandonment in space, you know that if you want to investigate, it's wise to do it soon, before any other potential interested parties will come for it.

The object could be also slightly randomised to be a meteor, downed satellite, a small, slightly charred part of what would seem to be a spaceship or other such structure - no effect, just, you know, variety, even if again, I wouldn't want such event to be common but something that happens maybe once or twice thorough the gameplay.

Upon approaching the object and getting event description, one would have options such as:

>It may be dangerous, better leave it alone.

Object is just left and ignored. From now on there is a chance that certain percentance of randomly generated and "infectionable" people/creatures will suffer from the effect of it, be it mutation, disease or other alteration (no need to write any special content around that, just adding randomly a line of description, like "Your enemy is visibly aroused" or "A sparse web of purple, weird veins covers their body" to some random mob and changing their stats would do if no one wants to write special events. Also, considerable chance that one player's faction member/slave will be infected - leading to the event as you've presented, perhaps?

>It may be dangerous, better burn and bury it.

Object is destroyed, event concluded. A tiny (few percent) chance that someone will be infected leading to the event you've presented.

>Take it and see if you can make anything useful out of it

Object is taken - possibly some resources or items retrieved (rare metals or other otherwordly natural resources if it is a meteor, rare resources like electronics etc if it's manmade that could allow upgrades and whatnot) and 100% chance for both effects of above choices (both epidemy in the wild and slave infection).

>Sterilize the object and retrieve what's left

If applicable - player has to have access to means, technology or resources allowing such action. As above, resources or items are scavenged, albeit at slightly lower chance/quantity, no chance of infection or spread of object's effects.

I am not saying my version is better, just that this is how I've imagined such event - and like I wrote, it could work as prelude to yours. Even if we won't want to go that far, it's fine, just throwing an idea that i think could add quite some with not overtly much of work.

>>25124

>>25094

The only issue with your event I see is that it seems to be just about particular single outcome of "infection" - pregnancy. Provided we'd go with a few different outcomes, I'd make the scene smaller but with variations, like:

[nymphomania virus]

>[Slave] claims they're tainted…

>…but you don't see why they would say so. If anything, their gasps, moans and desperation evident in their eyes suggests they're more horny than anything.

[some disease, negative, positive, whatever effect - really, a lot of wiggle space, plenty of space for different descriptions and randomized between games effects so one won't be able to to learn how certain disease affects some stats and use that knowledge in another game]

>…as indicated by a sparse web of purple, weird veins covering their skin/sharp ridges protruding from their spine/metallic gleam to their skin

Could add a line to slave's description and perhaps progress and transform slave into some other type of 'race' (ie, turn them into a sexrobot or whatever) - but that's kinda ambitious and I am not sure how well-fitting with plans regarding creatures and stuff. Could also be 'try your luck' thing that over time advances and changes into other, more obvious infection effects (pregnancy, nyphomania etc)

[pregnancy]

>…as proven by their visibly rounded stomach, like if they'd be pregnant

[other type of parasite]

>…which some sort of slime/slug/fungi [more randomisation?] that seems to be attached to their [body part] is likely a proof of.

Writer here. Good criticisms, all.

I hadn't quite noticed, but my events so far definitely lean towards the 'railroading and characterizing the PC' route, rather than the intended 'let the player decide what the PC's into and how they react.' I blame this on being unused to the format, I've only ever written longer stuff about set characters, so writing short vignettes that could apply to anyone (more or less) still feels a bit unnatural to me. I'm sure I'll improve with time.

Once we get a more solid grasp on the mechanics, I'll go back over all the scenes I've written and try to make them more applicable to any kind of PC, rather than the few kinds I envision.

As for why the pregnancy is the only outcome of infection in that event - it's because >>24999 suggested it and i really liked the idea. There's other types of mutations, though we're trying to take it in a distincly 'alien' direction, not just 'ooooo, spooky xeno-sex organs', designing these is definitely a WIP and we'd appreciate some feedback on how unnatural xenobiology should affect characters.

In the meantime, the feedback is welcome, as always. Thanks, we'll get back to work.

>>25093

Good start so farfor, looking forward to more development of that kind of stuff!

>>25110

>On the other hand, it's a porn game. Maybe no one gives a shit about a cohesive story.

It used to be a porn game, now it's a mess.

The post-apocalyptic setting really does not lend itself well to a porn game, or at least not the kind they are making.

Resources are scarce, travel is limited, focus is more on survival than living in luxury. I mean, just look at Fury Road, which I gather was the primary inspiration here.

It only really covers a very narrow set of fetishes, the rest basically requiring you to violate your own worldbuilding to make any number of other ones work.

Want a royal/aristocratic slave? You now have to come up with royal bunkers because there is no conceivable way that you can get your hands or any kind of modern royalty a century after the fall of civilization. Want a famous model/celebrity or athlete? The same, you now have to invent outlandish reasons why they are still around, or just bullshit by making a post-apocalyptic version that greatly diminishes their appeal.

Same for any other kind of fetish that relies on modern occupations and/or backgrounds.

Not to say that it can't be fun to enslave a princess from some post-apocalyptic barbarian kingdom, or to go on a degenerate treasure hunt to get your hands on an exclusive pre-collapse individual so you can enslave him/her.

And as others have already said, the shoddy "finalized" offerings, the lack of a general framework for the world at large and the fact writers are going all over the place without a clear understanding of what they are supposed to be doing, let alone a grasp of the mechanics they need to take into account (because they aren't even done yet) just further illustrates this project is not going well.

Either the setting needs to be fleshed out way more, or some of the more restrictive assumptions about it need to be ditched in favor of a set of circumstances that more easily justify slave variety.

I think this project could become the Flexible Survival everyone deserve.

By that I mean (none to a negligible amount of furry)

I think the only thing this game did well is the post-apocalyptic theme interpretation.

Beside this, the writing was bad, the mutation system could see some improvement and the sex/mutation scenes are just horrible, boring, lacking of details.

>>25233

>Beside this, the writing was bad, the mutation system could see some improvement and the sex/mutation scenes are just horrible, boring, lacking of details.

The writing was very uneven but that's normal since shitload of different people did this. Mutation actually was the worst - shit that barely ever had any meaning or importance for the gameplay, outside of "some character fucks only some other characters looking like that". Sex/mutation again, depends on the writer though I actually prefered their stuff to CoC shit - I want less details and more of descriptions of what's happening, instead of pages upon pages of info about every little movement and body position - at times CoC felt like reading porn fanfic, not a game with imagination-stimulating descriptions.

So, my opinions are quite opposite to what you'd see (beside also being for a text game with severely limited furry content, but not necessarily made the way FS as it is somewhat clunky) - but to each their own.

And while I was one of the people contributing to the mutation idea above, I am strongly against making it base for the game. I am far more interested about carving your own niche in degenerated, somewhat post-apocalyptic world, creating my own nation and morality of it, pertraining to my fetishes. Mutation I care not for as much as typical kinks as well as ones not really well explored yet in similar games (sexbots etc). But again, different tastes - happens.

>>25108

>>25109

>>25110

That's actually surprisingly reasonable. Should be probably looked over by whatever devteam member is in charge - it may seem like kind of a small thing and in cases of many other games it would be - but given that this game is mostly text game and very, VERY ambitious at that, it may be very important to make sure the fundamentals are as cohesive and coherent as possible, to avoid clear logic and plot holes down the road.

What seems to be kinda big issue for me is that the sex scenes are very very complex and huge, a series of short descriptions combined with each other would be much better in my opinion

i have some ideas for the setting

Year 2034: Global warming is melting the ice on both poles.

Year 2037: The competition for arctic resources has already reached a critical point. Attempts from UN to resolve the crisis in a peaceful hasn't shown any improvement.

Year 2041: As everyone expected the first shoots are fired before the first drill could penetrate the ground/arctic floor for resources.

Year 2042: Small skirmishes grew in large scale disasters as more and more countries joins. (I will refereed as The Great Disaster)

Year 2045: As Treaties forced The Great Disaster to grow exponentially, civilization was on the brink of collapse and with it most advanced technologies vanished.

Year 2046: Even though every country exhausted everything they had. None could come out to claiming the prize, because world became to polluted to live on. With no country having the ressource to continue on their own they had no choice but to come together and build a sanctuary for humans. (This ll be told to the player at the beginning. Truth: As the ice melted, it set a new kind of virus free, which killed 99% of the infected and mutated the remain 1% (catgirls,doggirls,monsters…). Without advanced technologies mankind couldnt fight the virus and left them no choice, but to come together and build a sanctuary for humans (to make the nationalities believable))

Year 2049: Sanctuary was build in 3 years with to combiened efford of all countries.

Year 2055: As the peace continues people started to forget about everything, about the hunger, about the cries of your friends, about the terror, all but the hate for others , who caused the death or your friends and family members.

Year 2057: Hatred lead to another war. A civil war. With the ongoing civil war the council (is composed of all heads of ever country) had no choice, but to separate the outer and inner sector with what resource the could bear to spare.

Year 2058: Without the help of the inner sector the outer sector couldn't sustain itself and scavenged what they could(food, water, weapons, materials) to venture into the wasteland and survive on their own. But the civil war did still leave a scar. The remain bit of civilisation collapsed under it. Driven by hatred the formed groups to enslave smaller groups.

Year 2279: Since the outer sector left with their slaves Sanctuary in many groups it has been over 200 years (i just want to clarify that there was many groups that survived). The player is born in the bunker as slave/overlord….

I still more ideas for events like:

A landslide when the player takes over the bunker.

searching for alien artifact on the molten poles (cause why not)

Or Sanctuary being a super perfect Utopia who doesn't allow slaves and u can corrupt/conquer them

>>25292

>A landslide when the player takes over the bunker.

I meant it more like a collapse to artificially create a need for food, energy, water, rooms.

>>25260

>That's actually surprisingly reasonable. Should be probably looked over by whatever devteam member is in charge

That post was shared with the team, and we agreed; it was very insightful. For those of us working on this project daily, I think we've all created various assumptions and mental images that help smooth over the inconsistencies, so it's great to have a fresh external perspective on our work, where these inconsistencies can be pointed out plainly and addressed.

Yesterday marked the end of this project's third week. For the past few days, we've been going over all of our procedures and general organization, looking for areas that need improvement, and taking feedback from this thread into consideration. This resulted in our first Monthly Assessment, which outlines numerous issues that need to be addressed. It's extremely important that we work through these issues while the project is still young, before they become systemic, and we'll be doing so throughout September.

I was giving this some thought, but why not have the primary "facility" be an old pre-fall prison? With some modifications such a structure becomes viable - It has pre-existing housing, gathering areas, workshop areas, and above all it's defensible with limited access points.

>>25231

I have to agree with a lot of the criticism here.

It may be best to take a good look at the world you're trying to build and why. Because from what I've gathered in this thread the only real possibility is if you're going for a system of space aliens invading and establishing colonies - with or without humans - and mankind has societies - long established or otherwise - outside the big domes.

This would give you the xenomorph parasites as a possibility, the human societies outside the domes are third world in comparison which can have kingdoms themselves, the gene morphing becomes more believable, there can be aliens as slaves, etc.

Plus that favored phrase: "Any technology sufficiently advanced enough is indistinguishable from magic." This opens up most any fetishes for you to add at a later date.

Opens up to raiding caravans of societies more well off than you. The bigger they are the harder they'll hit back and such. Aliens would have a better wealth of materials because of how they manufacture them, so they're in no real rush to retaliate until you decide to become a particular thorn in their side.

Maybe even types of aliens as it could be some conglomeration of them. A cartel, maybe. This planet being a backwards colony perhaps.

Although, at this point I wonder where even I'M going with this. Still, you see the concern? Of how important it is to have a world guideline?

>>25353

>It may be best to take a good look at the world you're trying to build and why.

>Still, you see the concern? Of how important it is to have a world guideline?

Yes, the need for this was part of our Monthly Assessment (which is public), among several other issues that we need to resolve.

As for the alien/xeno aspects, you guys are of course free to discuss it, but it's not at all a priority right now, and I don't know that it ever will be. One of the writers wrote up a fun event in that genre based on a poster's request/suggestion but, as other anons above have made clear, we barely have a cohesive setting as it is, we certainly aren't going to be branching out into alien/xeno territory at this time. We have a lot of work to do on shoring up what already exists.

>>25356

Glad to hear that.

I'm actually looking forward to this project and I've seen too many die out because no one knew the layout. Like horror movie victims in an asylum without a map. New killers kept popping up and taking bits of the team.

Get that map. Stay alive.

>>25110

I also disagree with iron-currency idea thats on the wiki.

>>25109

Yea wiki needs some organization to make it easier to find information.

>>25127

Feedback received and accepted, good to see a (the) writer(s) can be flexible.

>>25231

I agree with low tech post-apocalypse world railroading a lot of stuff. I'dd prefer a super-high tech dystopian world where nations have shrinked down to metropolises and the gap between rich and poor is large. Stuff like Texhnolyze or

Kurozuka. This would let bring in everything from slavery and resource scarcity to implants and "magic" body modifications.

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>>25353

>>25356

I was one of the anons who mentioned the xeno content as being appreciated but to be honest, it doesn't need to be exactly of such origin. If I want slightly creepy monstergirls, for example, aliens can be one source, but for example, human warfare with use of experimental biological weapons that didn't kill absolutely everyone, but left a few heavily mutated or "carrier" people who then mingled and gave birth to all kinds of mutants - is fine too.

>>25372

I wouldn't say that low-tech post-apocalypse is necessarily railroading in itself, it's in how it is handled. Just because current technological thought isn't much developed or the humanity isn't too organized and advanced doesn't mean that there cannot be visible effects of the advanced technology of the past, even in the way >>25353 mentions - now taken for supernatural occurances, places and artifacts of great occult power.

Personally, I'd prefer overall world setting to be post-apoc, with dystopia being what leftover pockets of hi-tech society are coming to and what player's faction can turn into, dependant on both technological advancements and social mores steered and pursued by player's actions.

Where technology is concerned in a post apocalyptic setting really depends on what kind of infrastructure a given group can get ahold of.

Technology is really a matter of having the right tools to build something, and a lot of that "something" is the next level of tool precision to continue the chain to our modern levels to make what we take for granted.

Depending on conditions and time after an "apocalypse" you would have groups with base tech levels:

* Primitive (started from scratch)

* Pre-modern (build and maintain some level of tech, just not up to our current level)

* Modern

Any of these could add in remnant technology (surviving in working order, or can be jury rigged into working) to their capabilities.

And add to that the simple fact that a given group could be at different tech levels in different areas:

* Industry - including weapons production

* Agriculture - modern farming techniques don't necessarily require the physical technology

* Sciences - The area likely to start high and erode over time as things aren't deemed useful enough to pass on.

* Military - The underlying principles haven't really changed much since Sun Tzu and Sun Bin wrote their respective Art of War, only the specific application. That said, training your forces to take proper advantage of whatever your industry supports would take time and effort.

Can we get an update since the wiki is being overhauled

>>24639

>the Dwarf Fortress of porn

Fuck you, I choked on my drink.

Polite sage since my post adds nothing of value.

>>25608

The project is currently undergoing several changes, the most notable of which is the lore simplification.

This will allow the team to focus on important tasks without having to worry about a novel's worth of lore.

A summary of features to expect for the next release(v0.1.0) can be found here: https://wiki.librecities.net/doku.php?id=game:management:roadmap

continued

>>25652

>Entry into the Zone is very restrictive

Entry into the Zone is very restrictive

>We have money

Outsiders have Zone money implying steady trade

>cargo is transferred to your carts

Rough indicator of tech level. Not hover barges or servant robots or something

That's just about half-way down the page of a single event. Unless the new writing style is going to be more brusque than Hemingway with none of his imagery, it's going to be impossible to not have glaring contradictions all over the place.

Fuck me, I wrote way too much again. I have a habit of trying to shut down potential arguments before anyone even objects. I could have probably just said, "Yo, your lore's gonna be fucked if you don't make an outline. Like, majorly, un-fixabl-y fucked," and left it there. I mean, trying to get multiple people to write coherent vignettes in an ill-defined setting is pretty much like trying to get a bunch of people to write a program without telling them what language to write in. You can probably hack something together in the end, but it won't be efficient and it won't be pretty.

Look, all I'm saying is, if you're going to wing it without an outline, your story's going to be a mess. It's a porn game. Maybe you don't care if the story's a mess. Just don't fool yourself into thinking that you'll be able to fix it later. You can't fix a house built on quicksand.

Oh, and this:

>The Zone uses a textbox as its currency. Players will enter their desired currency into the box. Prices will remain the same regardless of whether the player chooses gold coins, dead rats, or memes.

Why? I mean, this basically conceeds that a fiat currency is the logical choice; all you need to do is assign one for the world. Leaving open this meaningless avenue of player "choice" is just confusing to the player and restictive to the writers (no writing about wallets "full of twinkling gold coins" for instance).

Again, to end on an optimistic note--I'm still confident in this project. Hell, why would I bother whinging if I didn't think you guys were doing something with potential? The amount of infrastructure in organizational services and regular evaluations shows that LCDev knows how to get shit done. As I'm just an anon, I don't have access to edit logs on the wiki, but it seems to me most of the writing I took issue with was banged out solo with little or no external input and marked finalized. Maybe my misgivings are due to a fundamental difference in how coders and writers work. Coders are trained to work with others while writing is a mostly solitary pursuit, so working together to write a game is unfamiliar territory. Maybe a solution would be to encourage greater cooperation at more points in the writing pipeline. Something like outline -> group (and 8ch?) input -> draft -> input -> final? I don't know; I could be completely off base. Just spit-balling, hoping to offer solutions instead of just pointing out problems. Not trying to point fingers. Anyway, keep it up, and don't let my nit-picking get you down.

>>25653

First of all, thank you for the continued feedback autist-anon.

Collaborative writing is always going to be a tricky beast to handle. We could spend months developing a well defined setting only to still run into situations where one person's writing conflicts with another's on some minor level. As such it was decided that the best course of action would be to skip the several months of writing nothing but lore and instead have a concise outline for the writers to work by. Undoubtedly writing inconsistencies will still appear, but we have a (WIP) design document and editors working to make sure nothing goes horribly wrong.

Of course your suggestions will be shared with and discussed by the team as we strive ever onward to make as enjoyable(and consistent) a game possible.

>>25653

>Fuck me, I wrote way too much again.

No, bullshit. I am often writing walls of text in these threads, for similar reasons you do and I stand by a claim that it's better to express your thoughts in a way leaving no space for mistake and misinterpretation, offering good examples and showing you care instead of dropping "yo, your shit gonna be fucked" and call it a day when such simple comment wouldn't help anyone.

I think we stopped caring because, with a big lore setting, everything would have had to been checked and rechecked for cohesion against the setting. And thats after hashing all the lore out and making sure everyone agrees. It's easier to keep it simple and leave space for introduction assimilation.

And all in all, there is a lot of writing to do, and from what I can tell no one was writing lore. And writing in general is the limiting factor right now, so making it easier for a writer to just start writing 3 lines of content we could use for the first release is already a boon.

Because once you have the basic outline down, it really doesn't cost anything to change the little details, like electricity going out vs unlimited. Like just fluffing it up "the upper district, seemingly immune to the constant power outages the lower districts have to suffer day long". I wrote the Surgical Shop passage. I could change a lot of things in there without having to re-write anything. Flickering lights, high tech instruments, etc.

And anyway, thats what our editor is for, right?

.>>25652

>tfw you shit on the lore so hard that the writers give up on writing lore

I wouldn't say that we've given up on the lore. I agree with everyone that's said we need a solid foundation for the lore, from which the rest of the game can be built on. One of our main problems though, is our team's activity levels. If you look at the Dev Team page, we're divided into a Core Team, and Contributors. The Core Team is on for several hours a day, and the vast majority of our work comes from those members. We also have several Contributors with similar levels of activity, and they will likely be eligible for Core Member status. But at the end of the day, we're still talking about less than ten people trying to work on this ambitious project.

What I'd like to see from our foundation is something that, for now, is extremely flexible, but can be restrained into something concrete with time. We simply don't have the manpower to churn out a novel's worth of cohesive lore that builds an entire world before we start developing this game. And when we have to choose between one or the other, everyone signed up to work on a porn game, not a wordbuilding exercise.

Just as a note, plenty of games have used more then one level of tech in a post-end of the world game. It part of the charm.

Important Announcement

We are currently testing a new wiki service and are in the process of porting all existing content over. All users, old and new, will need to (re)register to the new site in order to gain access. However, there is no confirmation email so you can enter in any mumbo-jumbo you'd like.

Hopefully the new wiki will solve many long-standing issues people having been facing with the old one and allow for a much smoother flow of work within the project.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

>>25702

Forgot to link the new wiki. >.<

https://wiki.librecities.net/

>>25702

Note that if you were registered on our old wiki, it is recommended that you delete the cookies stored in your browser for wiki.librecities.net. Otherwise you might encounter a "bad request" error when logging in.

>>25702

When you've switched wiki software more frequently than you've released working builds, you know you're in project management hell.

>>25709

No. of times wiki switched: 1

No. of builds released: 1

Something doesn't add up here..

>>25711

I know, pizza + bacon should equal nom.

>>25709

I am very sorry for this massive mistake on our part. We are working full time to resolving this issue and bringing the release count higher than the wiki migration count. I believe I may venture to say this has become our primary goal. We will keep you updated on our progress. You may consult our new wiki to validate our progress.

>>25721

Not a dev, just an anon interested in the game. Right now, you can easily keep the project out of mind. It's fresh and people work on it kinda daily but there's not really much of an actual gameplay yet. Either consider contributing or come back in a few months - by then either the project will show that it's steadily getting to realizing all those ambitions they wrote about however long it'll take or it'll prove that the devs were lacking (if only in the will) and it'll be dead.

>>25721

>What have you guys actually done to improve the game? What features have you added?

While we started as a fork of Free Cities, Libre Cities is currently its own game being written from scratch. If you want to see what we did during the first couple of weeks as an FC fork, you can check the Version Information page from the last release, here:

https://blog.librecities.net/downloads/

The new game is hosted in our git repo at:

https://git.librecities.net/

You can download the latest version any time.

>it looks like Librecities is a big ol' "look how big my dick is" contest.

That's a curious observation. Considering all of our services require registration, and our postings here are limited to answering questions, I'd say it's much the opposite. If this were indeed a dick showing contest, we've certainly gone out of way to make it hard to see said dick. We're just here doing our thing. If everyone ignored the thread, we'd still continue on our way. We're hardly here for the publicity.

>I'm not going to make a user account and jump through bunch of hoops just to see if your project is worth my time.

I would just write it off as not being worth your time then.

>>25721

>And no I'm not going to make a user account and jump through bunch of hoops just to see if your project is worth my time.

If registering for that wiki was "jumping through a bunch of hoops" then I'm not sure you're capable of sitting still long enough to play any game and you should look into getting some meds for your attention deficit disorder.

>>25718

What you should really be sorry about is posting on this thread instead of keeping to your chatroom circlejerk and only posting here when there is news (i.e. never).

>>25733

So we should ignore the community's questions, concerns, and general feedback, and instead just post 'news' announcements that we never follow up on.

Shit, anon, we've been looking for someone to work public relations for awhile now. Are you for hire?

>>25530

Aliens were the best example of "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." excuse that I could think of. Basically an entire people from beyond the stars must be capable of far more advanced technology than we could ever imagine and at best outsiders of their colonies have reverse engineered their outdated tech. Like a poor kid digging out an old iPhone from a dumpster. Keeps a lot of the stuff more uncommon than excruciatingly rare. The problem with human leftovers is that I wonder how many could effectively continue using that tech… average person isn't that smart, I can't imagine the ones that would be would survive during an apocalyptic event. Especially considering the amount of violent idiots to those that develop that kind of tech. So like you added to my point: They'd largely see it as magic and the occult, they wouldn't really be pragmatic and continue its development. Unless secret cult of engineers… but then that's BoS territory.

But that's my autism speaking, I guess.

Then again, I suppose it's always possible to have a Technological Messiah out of nowhere - be they player or NPC - learning how to use that tech and teaching people how to develop it for themselves. It'd be neat if you ended up upsetting some tribes that declared you a heretic for supporting or becoming that messiah.

Heya folks. Still alive. Sorry for falling off of the face of the Earth. Things have been a little crazy down here near the bottom of the world.

>>25758

Hey RhodieRon, welcome back.

Inactive accounts were disabled on Mattermost a week or so ago. I'll send you a reinstatement email. You should be able to login with your old account information.

>>25734

Feedback on what? You haven't even had a first release yet. The anomaly here is that this has somehow gotten to thread three and still hasn't had a single stable release. I get that the project is ambitious, but in general this board is used to keep the people who use it informed of new releases and updates. This thread has been nothing but suggestions in wish list format, along with undelivered promises. I'm sure you are working very hard, and it really isn't your fault more as it is the community's, but he isn't wrong that this thread is low content and is annoyingly always at the front. It would be more useful to have the thread focused on updates and releases, but the problem is that there isn't a first release yet.

>>25781

Holy shit, another lazy asshole.

There IS an unsupported full release out there, and there's a work on a release that they're accepting feedback on even if you're personally too fucking lazy to look at it.

Just because you want everything fucking spoonfed to you while you loiter in your diaper doesn't mean everyone does. Don't like it? Go the fuck away forever.

>>25781

We do actually have two stable releases from back when LC was a fork of FC; the latest of which is still available from the Downloads section on our blog.

The feeback we receive largely stems from the current build in our git repo, which is developed daily and available for anyone to compile and 'play,' as well as the writing that gets published to the wiki.

>>25733

Go choke on a dick. Other anons here actually were very glad devs interact and incorporate anon suggestions and discussions.

>>25734

No matter where and how the game will develop, at least the community interaction you're doing pretty well.

>>25742

>Aliens were the best example of "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." excuse that I could think of. Basically an entire people from beyond the stars must be capable of far more advanced technology than we could ever imagine and at best outsiders of their colonies have reverse engineered their outdated tech.

It really depends how you'll make your aliens. Even crazy conspiracy theories IRL provide pretty awesome alternatives to typical "technologically advanced aliens". For example, grays being actual somewhat demonic spiritual entities turned flesh that aren't really travelling humongeous distances as much as using their saucers to cross dimensions and their bodies being just temporary vessels for when they are in material plane - pretty cool and original idea, no matter how much bullshit it may be, right? And it makes it somewhat occult even by todays standards, taking "indistinguishable from magic" to a new level.

I have no problem seeing xeno stuff as not as much technological sapient beings as, for example, advanced but animalistic, biological creatures adjusting their form to allow cosmic travel, microbes travelling in asteroids, debris or other space-flight-capable creatures and infecting hosts wherever they land and so on.

I would agree though that I wouldn't want hyper advanced technology to be easily obtainable in the game. Wouldn't mind it if different factions would be at different technological levels, including even sci-fi stuff like some sexbots being somewhat current modern technologically but with most of the infrastructure being refurbished and barely held together, scavenged stuff just with some mcguffin thrown into the mix to explain how that all could work.

I wouldn't want technological messiah out of nowhere but I certainly would enjoy it if they game could stand on its own as post-apoc civilization rebuilding sim even without porn elements - in this case allowing the player to gather tech, hire people to retro-engineer stuff and invent new things and then rebuilding the civilization (while, hopefully, having a choice to steer it into direction of certain kinks and lewd behavior). It wouldn't even have to be anything ambitious to add to feature creep - just a few different events and choices in them that add a few lines of description here and there reflecting player's choices and lead to a few different game-end blurbs.

>>25796

>I certainly would enjoy it if they game could stand on its own as post-apoc civilization rebuilding sim even without porn elements

That would be great, but I think that's really just too much to expect or even aim for.

Really there's two important parts of the game, as abstractly presented as possible:

A. There's a grindy economic simulator. This is the real game element and probably the hard part to begin with.

B. Fetish porn. This is the part that makes it different from every other shitty grindy econ simulator, and therefore pretty much "why everyone's here."

The lore? That's really just the rationalization for the fetish porn and the disguise for the econ simulator. If the base game's written properly the lore becomes shit you can just revise lists of variables for, because you don't necessarily want the game to start being vastly different if you're Mad Maxing shit versus XCom apocalypsing - and neither notion gives two shits over the central conceit of "muh slaves!"

>>25812

>That would be great, but I think that's really just too much to expect or even aim for.

Like I've said, it really depends how it'll be done and what brings such for the player. I suspect most of what would make the game good even without porn can very well stem from porn. One can be tied with another.

A few additional/changed flavor lines in some location descriptions, as in (example totally fake)

>rows of shacks made out of scrap are lit by afew communal fires, upon which members of your faction cook whatever edibles they've managed to obtain today in impromptu patched pots.

changing (depending on player's choices and advancements) to

>a few big, sturdy concrete buildings lit by crude, yet still quite luxurious by standards of today electric lamp posts provide defensible shelter for your citizens.

…provides certain satisfaction and feeling in progression on its own, without requiring any additional mechanics and much of a coding (just a few flags for different upgrades/advancements).

I won't lie, I am interested in the porn side myself but if the non-porn side can be slightly yet easily improved by just dozen or two of one-liners for different advancements/stemming from different events and similar ways to improve things can be found in other areas that will be added anyway due to porn, I don't see why not.

I don't expect fully fleshed out post-apoc management RPG, but I believe fully fleshed out porn game with RPG and management can be brought pretty close.

If turns into straight "press X to fug" then there is no hope, there has to be a game other than that.

>>25796

So long as we get monster girls or animal girls -- without entering yiffing territory – I'm good.

I wonder if an order of druids being a thing would work in that life. Where they live near a factory that "communes" them with their spirit animal. If wolf spirit they'd get wolf ears, wolf paws/claws, etc. I do enjoy the idea of a religious aspect to idiots who can't understand how a machine works. Lord knows I've felt that awe with my own ignorance.

As for the Technological Messiah… I was delving more into the Mad Max religious idea of the gifted engineer. The one who can make anything sing, that kind of thing, basically the Fonz. A savant or simply a genius that understands the high tech on a level not many do and has amassed a cult of students or disciples to spread his teaching and elevate mankind to its former glory. He doesn't have to be a messiah, I just needed a name to better identify what he was. I'd settle for a group of people trying to attain what was lost or you building a group like that.

>>25891

upboated

>>25657

>several months of writing nothing but lore

>>25678

>We simply don't have the manpower to churn out a novel's worth of cohesive lore that builds an entire world before we start developing this game.

I wanted to call bullshit on this; you'd already written a bunch of text describing a world--you just needed to reduce it down to something readable, pen in some details, and resolve some illogical aspects. It doesn't take a novel to outline the basic aspects of a universe. Shouldn't have taken more than a day, two at most. Instead, you guys threw up your hands and decided everything's up in the air again; no one knows what's outside the Zone; PC doesn't even have a background. But complaining would have been unproductive so I decided to put my money where my mouth is instead.

http://pastebin.com/gcRMc5H3

First off, I'm not a writer, I don't even like creative writing so don't bother critiquing style; it's written in point form anyway. Second, I had to do this off memory cause the wiki went kaput, so sorry if it doesn't fit what your vision perfectly. Even if the wiki was still there, the content was a bit thin so I doubt I could have hit your vision perfectly either way. Finally, this is fairly consistent as far as I can tell but it's always difficult to find the flaws in your own logic. Rip it up and put it back together again as much you like; it's intended as a starting point, a proof-of-concept that establishing a rudimentary world isn't as hard as you seem to think it is. Or don't touch it and all and continue ignoring lore. It's your project; do what you judge to be best.

Oh, one more thing, actually: you should probably use a trip, PR-guy. Writing like a human being instead of a customer service drone would be cool too.

>>25955

I'm one of those people that thought the FC setting was perfect.

You have a dangerous, near future world outside, but since it's in the process of collapsing it's still fairly familiar to the user and intuitive enough not to require the lore to explain all the minutiae, yet far removed from our reality to allow for interesting things to happen.

It also justifies all the wide variety of slaves, their backgrounds, progressions, personalities, etc., without having to spin a whole novel about why they still exist.

But nope, they had to make it post-apoc for whatever reason, and make things harder on themselves without any really tangible benefit.

As for your proposal, it's a more detailed list of what others have already proposed, only for the dev team to toss it aside because because nobody seems to want to tell the writers what they can and can't do.

It works for a post-apoc game, it fails as a lewd game specifically because there isn't much interesting for the player to see. The list of plausible kinks is limited, any outside slave you can get into the Zone is either a nomadic barbarian or people from another Zone (meaning more of the same) and xgirls, and that's about it.

>>25955

>But complaining would have been unproductive so I decided to put my money where my mouth is instead.

I want to thank you for this, anon. It's extremely thorough, well thought out, and it looks like you spent quite a bit of time on it. The rest of the team is looking it over, but it has my blessing, personally. Thanks for putting that together.

>>25958

>I'm one of those people that thought the FC setting was perfect.

>But nope, they had to make it post-apoc for whatever reason, and make things harder on themselves without any really tangible benefit.

I mean, you can always just play FC if that's what you prefer; I certainly haven't taken that away from you. I've kind of given up on it with FC Author's latest moves, but that's an issue for another thread. As for the setting, you're not wrong; our choice has added new challenges for no apparent benefit. But we do have to keep the game fun for us. If the people developing a game no longer enjoy it, the development stops. We happen to enjoy the post apocalyptic setting much moreso than FC's setting. Right or wrong from a design standpoint, that's just the way the rock tumbles.

>The list of plausible kinks is limited, any outside slave you can get into the Zone is either a nomadic barbarian or people from another Zone (meaning more of the same) and xgirls, and that's about it.

Eh, I consider myself to be about as creative as a paper bag in the rain, but even I can do a bit more than that. The game doesn't have to be entirely serious, and minor plot holes are allowable when it involves porn. I mean, if we did this entirely realistically, the slaves would be absolutely disgusting and the entire game would be rather unarousing. FC has growth hormones that can drastically reshape your hips/shoulders in just a week, and that doesn't ruin anything. I think we can give ourselves a bit of freedom without killing everything.

>>25955

>>25981

I'd oppose favoring the cloning trope as far as immortality goes. Even with exchange of most cloned organs, sooner or later the brain will likely deteriorate and that one cannot be exchanged with one of a clone - consciousness cannot be transferred as data as data isn't really moved digitally, just copied. So clones would be exactly that - copies, leaving original still trapped in their body and dying.

The idea is good and I know that making it _virtual_ immortality gives one lots of wiggle space but I'd rather have it stated from the get go that it's a way to greatly extend one's life, but not ultimately make one immortal.

>>26116

What did FCdev do?

>>26144

Quite a few things. First, despite being a regular on /d/, he chose Reddit of all places to host his community. He's not moving away from blogspot (that I know of), but that was a really odd choice considering his audience, and the anonymous nature they prefer.

Then he made a comment specifically about 8chan after a few people suggested it: "Thank you all for providing an object lesson in why I don't like the idea of moving to 8chan." The comment can be taken one of two ways in the context of that thread. Either he dislikes the community on 8ch and the type of people that frequent it. Or he saw that any mention of 8ch leads to a comment war, and thought it would be best to avoid it altogether, seeing Reddit as a more 'neutral' ground. I haven't seen any follow up to that.

What really did it for me though, was his response to an anon's request for a Nazi revivalism FS. Nothing was mentioned about the jews, or the specific mechanics of the FS. The anon mainly wanted SS uniforms (and who doesn't?). I can certainly see how the mechanics of a Nazi FS might not work out well, but you could go with the aesthetics. His response to that was:

"The average person to whom Nazi Revivalism would appeal is not someone I want to deal with online. No offense to any individual person who suggests this; there are perfectly normal people out there with Nazi fetishes, as fetishwear catalogs will attest. But doing this would appeal to a crowd that I want nothing to do with."

I don't know. Maybe I just haven't been paying enough attention. But in the last few days, FC Author has really changed from my perspective. It's hard to hold a moral high ground while making a sexual slavery simulator.

>>26147

>What really did it for me though, was his response to an anon's request for a Nazi revivalism FS.

That was me.

I just wanted the outfits and figured the most likely way to get them was revivalism.

The most I talked about for details was industry boost - basically the schools, clinics, farms and etc. would get a boost in effectiveness - and increase in menial labor recruitment. That was about it. Not sure why people brought up ethnicity since it was mentioned you could choose that shit already.

>>26147

I am not surprised or even really annoyed by his nazi fetish stance. Not only he already made it perfectly clear that the game is first and foremost built upon his own preference ad attitude toward different kinks (a thing that is kind of understandable even if taken to the shitty extent of hypocrisy - but hey, I don't give a crap as long as there are mods) but if it'd be Nazi Revivalism, I am pretty sure that it'd have to involve more than just uniforms.

Revivalism implies certain culture, values, traditions, approach so I can perfectly understand why FCdev wouldn't want to go there - to be done well, it'd have to involve unsavory shit and it would cater to suspicious political/ideological groups I also wouldn't want the game associate itself with.

>>26147

I hate people who try to take the moral high ground when it comes to porn. If you don't like something and don't want to include it fine. But don't go blithering on how it disgusts you and how you hate people who like it. Especially if your some twisted fuck who has some of the most messed up porn fetishes ever in your game. I mean seriously with all the stuff in the game Nazi's is where he draws the line? He could have been more diplomatic and simply said sorry it's not something I'm comfortable with and I'd prefer not to have it in my game.

As to the poll (Interests)

Succubus/demon : Yes ! Still, dangerous it is, contract + previously know data, or magic, but then, which spells and more, how to make sure the summoned creature is not more powerful ?

There could lie several path :

- Magical > dangerous one, as said, multiple pitfall (aka, control freak>magots).

Quite the most direct, efficient & dangerous, checkbox + equipments/materials.

- Intellectual > previously asked specifics, read dedicated books

Some checks, each giving an increment as to success rate (then related to the summon rated value (oups, quite another entry there).

- Social > with a consumate/worldy first set of interactions/intake (clothes, body languages etc) the PC may be able to find a way to

either befriend or if so inclined direct toward "processing" (may be not the first one as it could well be a good RP options :

The first one being a DOM + quite wary as to experiences, she would be interested to see how the PC can handle her contacts

(be it "family" or others (quite some options on that path, from "enemy" processing to multiple plane social network building (..)

Given number of selection, not a priority, guess it would be quite better to see that one as a DLC, given how heavy it could become.

(A succubus of some experiences could easily sway quite some people into charm or better (/worse)).

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Food : RL = quite the most raffinate options there is as to both creation + follow up on a relation (warm drinks + food : wilderness + early morning, sun dressing.

As a bonus, add in music, but it is quite second, more interesting = flooring (think humidity + warmth -weight).

Ingame, DLC there to, given it his either RL based of phantasy in which case some rules have to be validated.

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- Rape of arcology citizen : Mafia ! Yep, be it from bribe, social pressure or others intake, taking in peoples, be it from the pauper or others, with intellect come quite some options.

(First take a young girl, once "educated" send her befriend others, from where it is quite easy to make her "open" the way for more and more intake.

Of course, that a specicif path as to the rape path, but it has quite more options as to results > links (if done correctly, it could allow for a quite better social progress rate for exemple).

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- Keep Slave offsprings as new slaves

Requirements (location + equipments + peoples, heavy subject all considered).

Still, can be quite interesting if done right.

But if going that way, thinks religion/social first, as to allow multiple marriage/consort or others type of social stickers.

If build in, it could be used as to political weights, making bridges and changes over otherwise quite locked family (along with an adapted campaign of death processing (heritage, from the most distant to the closest, that is depenant as to where exactly you're asset is standing.

(Yes, CK2 + mods allow for quite some setup on that specific : as Germany over three generation : France complete, Germany, Entire eastern roman territory and then, it should be quite enough as the game engine is not that easy (good management of the NPC = individual, when you have 40 childs each year + over 300 blood relatives floating around (trough family/marriage : links to almost all the compatibles territory).

As it is, of course, the rules have to be considered, quite a flaw of the current engine (not possible to act upon another nation rules, at all).

In LC, it can be either basic at first, provided bedding + compatible support = options to keep locally the kids.

How it is then handled ?

-----

- Sensory deprivation :

"Pillow" girl !

No, joke aside, quite a great entry : not fit for a majority of the slaves (as it add in several limit toward individual possibility).

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- Pets, why not. Not a priority, but still, could be managed using "layer" (each interest entry as one other options, either using archetype or complete freestyle).

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- More Arcology enginering : Yes ! Required as to quite a number of paths.

Coming from the required (security (do you know, double wall entrance, a quite destustible first door, with a then very deadly wall beside it.

As to Castle, quite uncommon (..), still, making empty area on each side of the towers, requiring wood planks as to be praticable, can make them quite independant.

"Hidden" facilities : Slaves, along with the rape and quite some others paths, they are reasons for one not to go full public with his actions).

Confort then, from water t° to food freshness/quality (if going for animal girls, demon etc, what to they eat ? (+ where do they like to sleep etc).

There is quite some options to be considered in case :p

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Gene splicing :

Did not check it, still, opening for some fun :

Creating bread, giving specifics features to the girls (infiltrators = cat/tiger character for example).

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- [x]Girls ?

Not sure what is about, multiple girl as to threesome etc ? Not a priority, still, linked to quite some others (bribe, social build up among others).

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Nationality Priority :

Atlantis : :D

Italian : Sicilia ! If going mafia there could lie quite something (from conflict to support, if not both (> layers).

A good etnicity could provide some very interesting profile, deep religious education + territory ties ? ..

Possible for all options I guess, something to consider as to both archetype and specifics paths.

(Ah, philosophy).

Olympic village !

Hm, if one has political ties ? Jest, mostly, still, could be a way to "create" a local sport team > publicity + more territory reach.

(New contacts, from friendly if done right to entirely bad (with an army coming as to level your asset (do not touch Israely out of care).

SS and games. The style is almost something, as they mixed several existing one as to create something.

If the fetish = uniform, then why not ? A way to make clear one is (or it is only an act ?) part of a team.

Social appartenance being one of the cornerstone of human being. Be it know and validated or not, one do not exist that far by him/herself.

>>26173

[x]Girls - X replaced by an animal, catgirl, dog or whatevers what that was I think.

>>26174

on the x girls it is basicly catgirls, cowgirls, and wolfgirls

>>25782

The "releases" are basically zero content added alterations of the original free cities. Don't try to bullshit. So far this is nothing but empty promises and misplaced hype. I get you want to burn your slaves alive or revive naziism, but that doesn't mean that this project has actually achieved anything.

>>26221

Jesus, you're a bad troll.

Learn some subtlety.

>>26221

You know this project is pretty much still in the ideation phase of development and as being made by volunteers, right? If you expect a bunch of volunteers, with varying schedules, to finish a game of this scope within 1 month then you'd best give up now.

>>26227

I think part of the problem people are having with this is FCDev gets more done in a week than all of you have in over a month.

>>26252

Updating a game and creating one are two different thing you know.

>>26249

I kinda want to fuck those snakes.

Some of these complaints just baffle me.

We receive two types of complaints in this thread. One is very helpful; the other not at all. Complaints in the former group are generally centered around something specific, like a piece of lore, and are followed by insightful suggestions and corrections. Complaints in the latter group can be summarized as "I don't like this project." I try to take all feedback as seriously as I can. It's shared with the group, we discuss it, and changes are usually made. With timezone differences, it may take a week or more for us to come to a solid agreement on what changes will be made to address that complaint, but it still happens. No one working on this project is perfect. We fuck up quite a bit, myself moreso than the others. But we all try to learn from our mistakes, correct them, and move on with the show. However, what I struggle with, is understanding what people in the latter group of complaints are trying to accomplish.

For a moment, let us assume that the two most common complaints are facts, without any excuses or explanations that attempt to justify them. Those would be:

"This project hasn't released anything."

"This project is overly ambitious."

When these complaints are raised without any advice that would put them in the first group of complaints, my question becomes "And..?"

Sure, we have no stable releases of the current LC. No one has ever disputed that. You can play LCZ, which we spent two weeks on, and you can download our current progress from the git repo, but neither are going to be very satisfying. You might as well be complaining that the sky is blue, because it's both an undisputed fact, and something that isn't likely to change for quite some time.

The project is absolutely ambitious. But I'm also not looking to throw six months at something just to walk away and say "It's complete now." I want a project that I can put years into; something that has a wishlist of features to work on that can keep me busy. Obviously, as development goes along, I hope to have early features in alpha builds that are both fun and arousing, even while the game itself is still very incomplete. But "overly ambitious" will be the understatement that continues to define this project throughout its lifetime.

Should a project just give up if they don't have a release after their first month? Should nothing ambitious ever be tried? If this were another Breeding Season that raked in donations while putting out nothing, I could understand these complaints. But we've yet to take anything from anyone; we're just doing our thing at our own pace.

If you're interested in this project, great. We're happy to have you here, to listen to your suggestions and constructive complaints, and to discuss our progress with you. If you're not interested in this project, or if the project is too slow and overly ambitious for you, that's unfortunate, but I have nothing for you. You might as well just ignore us and hide the thread because we're not throwing in the towel.

>>26259

Just disregard people too lazy to formulate a coherent criticism/complain.

You could've spared us this rant, it's just giving them bullet to throw at you.

Their objectives isn't to help your team progress, all they want is waste your time.

I recommend you to move on and stay focused on real contributors.

>>26259

Haha

How is cyber bullying real? Just like close your eyes.

I hope you find success with your game, but don't go Yanderedev or FC and marginalize us, fam.

>>26261

>How is cyber bullying real?

Seriously? Seriously? You really said that? You want statistics, or shall I post a photo of a friend of mine that COMMITTED SUICIDE because of cyber bullying?

LCDev, I apologize for allowing my personal anger over this topic to spill over into a thread that I follow daily. I support you and all the people on your team. You will always have at least one person who still believes in the work you do. I wish I could write, I wish I could code. The best/only thing I can do is say you've got a great start, and I look forward to your alpha and pre-alpha work.

To all those who post nothing but hate and discouragement: Don't we have enough of that in the real world? Do we have to have it in our virtual ones? I'm probably opening myself up to a whole can of worms but it needs to be said right here, right now. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. Or, to use a language those that do nothing but live under a bridge might understand; GTFO!

>>26284

>Seriously? Seriously? You really said that?

That anon was just quoting a well known meme.

>>26284

Yeah go ahead and post it so I can laugh at the face of a retard who didn't just turn off the monitor and walk away.

>>26259

LCDev, anons love to complain. Some are productive and their coplains are criticism, some are just entitled little fucks or harbor negative feelings because of their hopes being dashed before by ambitious titles.

To be honest, I do notice that there are quite some guys who come in just to say how it won't work out - feel free to ignore them. As a lurker among a group of lurkers I assure you that for every poster there's shitload of lurkers who won't cmplain but have little to add and just hope you'll make a game they can play. Stop woring about releases, just keep on building stuff and you'll get there.

>>26259

As long as my fetish of raising up my children to be my own sex slaves in my version of Craster Keep can be done, I will be happy.

>>26284

If you're so bent about it, maybe you should kill youtself desu~

for the barren wastelands a mixture of beings.

jailer sanctum- a pre-fall prison left standing. screams eerily seep from the inside lead by a faint crack. inside barbarians claim any unprepared soul in the area. the structure holds slaves with deep scars ranging from fresh with blood to skin covered gashes. those who enter are met by mutated fleshed beings wielding any and every weapon possible. any freed slaves are forever grateful, anything is better than this living hell.

Mad Men's Lab- a building that looks as if the fall had never happened. plain clean white walls, with a sharp colored sign baring the original name. the only visible sign of deterioration is the pavement that has trees growing through the cracks. looking closer at some of the trees they have faces going from pure ecstasy to anguish. Inside are 'scientists' pushing the limit on what a moral less world would be disgusted by. the passing raiders are horrified by even the gaze of the trees.

Traders stead- an outpost for travelers and traders. built from various materials of mostly metal joined by cut wood(some of the wood looks to have come from tables, or the rare tree. the metal of cars found broken beyond use). a large building with smoke pouring from the chimney. inside is a chorus of sing about tales of the world. rare and valuable goods traded hands to travel distant lands. any who dared attack would feel the sheer force of heavy weaponry, and the retaliation of depending leaders who would lose great treasure.

bandits bonfire- a gathering place for the blood thirsty of the land. limbs hacked and mangled drench the land with blood, barren of any cloths. on occasion the area smells of smoke that cleanses the stench of death. any slaves here have been used and disposed of. anything of value to be had will leave at dawn with the raiders. Never to return.

the rock and steel hills- a place alien to the rest of the land. the height of toxic materials. A spawning ground of the mutated. the waters of the area burn, are various colors but mostly black, and leave an odor that haunt people's minds. the only reminder of what once stood are factories producing chemicals that are too deadly to make in the enclosure of zone walls. vats of liquids that the very smell can cause instant paralysis, unquenchable lust, and the deterioration of organs.

bunker hatches- ranging from gaping wholes with broken door material to solid doors. what lurks within a mystery. desperate travelers? blood thirsty bandits? survivors or what remains of them? only way to find out is to enter. the interior could be a single room fit to drive one mad with bland concrete walls, or an under ground house holding a family holding out for the rise to the great fall. While enjoying the luxury of fine paintings, and leisure reading.

>>26284

It isn't real.

Your friend was a weak shit and it is a good thing they removed themselves from the gene pool.

Go back to tumblr or whatever you frequent if you are going to believe in stupid things like CYBER BULLYING

LMAO

Also

Kill yourself

You homo nigger cock sucker :)

>>26284

DO IT

>>26305

>>26320

>>26325

OP: And this, ladies and gentlemen of the internet, is how you get trolls to dance to your tune.

Dance, my troll puppets, dance for your Lord and Master. FLAME ME! TELL ME TO GO KILL MYSELF! I SHALL COME BACK FOR MORE! And I shall know that you have no power other than that which I choose to give to you.

Donec non mihi. Et non vincere.

>>26292

Thank you for your support.

>>26329

So, what you're saying is you were only pretending to be retarded?

>>26330

Nec pascant aviditate. Mortui vivos docent.

>>26330

Hac de re dicam omnia.

mods post progress pls

About sssk suggestion published in the wiki quote:

<< SSSK Idea

Lust, the more the npc has sex, the more they want it. Could go in hand with perversion. High lust would give benefits for being whored out and similar activities. Could also give penalties for a high-lust NPC doing boring jobs.

Obedience. The more you punish a slave, the more they get used to it, so the drawback for punishing them is lower, while the gain is higher. Low obedience would lead to poor performance and low gains from punishing a slave. >>

I think npc should have special traits/perks to develop such spiraling behavior.

Masochist npc would become more docile/obedient as they receive bad treatment.

When a masochistic npc's obedience cannot be improved, it receives a lust bonus for example.

Nympophomaniac (lust sickness or whatever else trait you come up with) will receive job penalties if it isn't sexual. In exchange it will benefit a consistent lust bonus that can be boosted based on the other slave traits etc.

A masochist/nymphomaniac slave would get a double reward if it's activity resolve around sex and getting punished.

>the more the npc has sex, the more they want it.

I think this could be a fun illness/drug/trait mechanic but not a global npc mechanic.

>>26457

Copied from the newest progress report at - https://wiki.librecities.net/books/project/chapter/daily-progress-reports

All of the pages on the Blog have been rewritten, and updated. One of the fun aspects of services that use SQLite databases is that I get to toss them out and download fresh copies, rather than actually update them properly.

The new 'About' page for the Blog has been proofread and uploaded. It is very concise and sexually tame. We're still all about girls being bred by dogs, and raising your own incestuous harem, but there's far too many fetishes to list in a concise overview.

Game

Changes to skill randomization.

Project

https://wiki.librecities.net/link/45#bkmrk-the-lore-team-mentio

The Lore Team mentioned on 2016-09-02 has been created.

Updated Wiki.

Updated Gogs.

Updated Blog.

Another example:

>Let's say Y npc developped a mutation that makes it's semen addicting.

>Force X npc to feed on Y's semen. ( make them have sexual intercourse for Z amount of time, taking into account sexual compatibility etc )

>X npc becomes <<addict to mutant semen>>. ==> ]New trait[

>Send npc X to a "gloryhole", she doesn't need to be fed anymore because she is feeding off people's seeds. ((obediance))+((lust))+((???)) ==> [increase]

>Spending Z amount of time in the gloryhole makes npc X develop <<nymphomania>> because ((obediance))+((lust))+((???)) ==> [maximum value reached]

>Now npc X is a <<nympho>> <<semen addict>> you can send her to do other task, keep her at her spot etc

Traits could be unlocked by filling specific requirement like in this example:

==> "gloryhole" + <<semen addict>> + [maxed]((obediance+lust))= nymphomaniac trait

Or could result from random events, mutations etc.

>>26339

>defending yandev

Please, just put a gun in your mouth and do the gene pool a favor.

>I don't mind if you take it slow, just keep working, yeah?

Pathetic.

>>26477

Less pathetic than an anon who comes into a thread just to shitpost and whine, like how it is with you.

>>26482

Still not as sad as white knighting for a bottom feeder like yandev.

>>26339

>posting the elf edition

KILL YORUSELF XENOS SCUM!

>>26485

Gotta agree here.

Yandev opened that door and never bothered to shut it. He fucked up and abandoned the people that set him up and taught him how to walk, essentially.

As for Libre Cities, they basically just started three weeks ago on a new build, right? No forking? Shit's pretty new and the lazy criticism isn't valid, yet. Give it three more months, at least.

>>26476

It should be possible.

I think that'd be fun. Having your bodyguard basically bully you into safety and stand her ground proud and strong. Maybe not exactly as you wanted, but that's how I'd have my Slave Bully.

>>26594

what happen to yanedev?

>>26598

I didn't pay much attention, but he basically threw away the 8Chan group that propped him up. His fault, he basically created the game to pander to them anyways.

It's one thing to take criticisms and ideas to implement, but he kinda built the entire thing around them to begin with. Then threw them away when he didn't really need them anymore and was tired of people criticizing his work or something. The game is still being made and he just threw a tantrum to my knowledge. Basically money ruins everything.

>>26641

Here's hoping he gets found in a ditch somewhere. Honestly, those people are the worst.

Obligatory:

Cuck-Dev, Cuck-Dev!!

You never fooled me!

>>26641

>asks for destructive criticism

>gets mad when he couldn't take it

>can't even differentiate shitposts from opinions

What a faggot

>>26641

I'm not an expert on him, but I do have to say, that from watching his dev updates, he is consistently working on the game and adding content constructively. His personality may be worthy of critique, especially if he censors the game, but as far as I can tell he really does have an idea of what he's doing and delivers on features and so on. At the very least, he's been consistently adding content for a long time, which is pretty good for a random dev in light of all the patreon people who just stop working at some point.

>>26641

> he censors his own game

What did he censor?

>>26684

>he is consistently working on the game and adding content constructively.

That damn fighting system he wants makes no sense.

>>26705

>That damn fighting system he wants makes no sense.

Yeah, and when people told him that he realized it was stupid and gave up on it.

>>26714

Nose?

How about

>that whole fucking face

>>26684

Once he started getting his Pateron welfare updates on the game became a trickle. It's basically the same shit that always happens with these "grand idea" projects once the money starts rolling in, they simply stop giving a shit and coast along stringing the fans every few months with some minimal shit.

Just look at EA stuff like Ark, or the most notorious example, Minecraft.

>>26705

In the second image, the skirt was originally supposed to be panties, but then he put a second skirt or whatever the fuck that thing is supposed to be because reddit got triggered.

And this is the cunt that was telling us he was making a tailor made anti-SJW game just for us. It's not like I want a game that shits on the Marxist vermin, I just want games that don't rub my face in their fucking politics.

>>26641

Were anons really that much of assholes or were they kinda just nay-sayers and bitter little pricks one can easily ignore even in LC threads?

If former, I kinda can understand - sure, he's bitter and noticeably butthurt but the logic is solid to the extent of stopping caring about part of the community that tries to fuck him over no matter what he does.

If latter, meh, if his skin is so thin it's better for everyone he's not here.

>>26718

>gave up on it.

Nope. He's still making it but just for 1 boss fight now.

What's happening with the devs? There's been no update at all for the past few days even though the Core Team supposedly is on for several hours a day and Kanboard suggests that they have a PR manager.

>>26800

Core Team here, been on for more than several hours, as always.

We're primarily focusing on tasks related to August's monthly assessment right now. Updates would mostly consist of administrative changes, not something I imagine the board to be interested in.

>>26803

You imagined wrong.

We want flowcharts, bars and graphs. We demand to know how much of a return our investments will make. ALSO SUITS AND TIES.

>>26813

>ALSO SUITS AND TIES

Now you go too far. You monster.

>>26877

Question: Is it playable for anyone yet or am I the only one that can't make it through the intro without game-breaking errors with the newest git version?

>>26950

It's nowhere near playable yet.

>>26951

Ok thanks for the update! The features look great so far so I can't wait until its stable.

>>26950

The errors have been fixed

I would just like to remind everyone that this could be worse. We could be dealing with a Jeph Jacque (QC) or Dumbing of Age (Willis). The fact that LCDev, despite namefagging, is still willing to deal with our collective retardation, is admirable. Though ignore me if I am speaking out of line ;D

>>26988

His use of a name/tripcode is relevant to the thread.

>>26988

>;D

stop

>>26988

>being this fucking retarded

Good afternoon, all.

Most of our administrative changes are complete, and will go into effect this coming Monday. I have detailed a summary of these changes here:

https://wiki.librecities.net/books/project/page/progress-update

Will the game be moddable to players?

>>27206

Yes. The source is always available in our git repository. Keeping your mod up to date with the current base game will also be easy, as modders can apply their code, and simply pull changes from the repository as they are added (resolving merge conflicts, if any).

Haven't stopped in in a while but here goes….

World cohesion doesn't have to be taxing, the story/world elements can have relatively little to do with events. The key to ensuring streamlined cohesion is actually in defining race characteristics, behaviours, habits and so forth as racial documents to work from regarding it's function calls.

For instance:

Race: Lamia

Genders: Male, Female, Herm

Archetypes: Non-Human, Near-Human, Predator

Typical Type: Hunter, Mage, Feral, Tribal

Typical Characteristics: Aggressive, Cunning, Dominant, Egg Layer, Scaled, Legless

Rare Characteristics: Winged, Hooded, Limited Shapeshifting (Bipedal)

Locations: Jungle, Woodlands, Labs

Origins: Natural, Transformed, Summoned (sub-type Demonic)

Factions: Independent, Summoned, Wild

Now that's mostly character event building related but to tie that into the world you would look to the Origins and Locations sections.

Location: Woodlands

Races: Lamia, Elf, Dryad, Human

Types: Hunter, Settler, Survivalist, Scavenger, Refugee, Scout, Tribal

Special Roles: Summoner, Mage, Druid, Witch

Factions: Old Kingdom, Clan, Independent

Group: Independent

Race: Any

Types: Any Non-Group Specific

Good Description: Knowing the world is at a crossroads <he/she> has given up on their former life, taking the chance to be someone new as the world around them changes.

Bad Description: <He/She> has lost hope, the depravity of the changing world and the petty struggles of the <faction> has almost broken <him/her> and led them to abandon their home.

Now what does all the above mean? It means that once outlined a racial template can be made for a writer to grab that ties into the lore, now with the engine it wouldn't use it how I've written it. That's more an example of how it might be laid out in a reference document/wiki, basically what it means is that there would be a list calls and description calls already written for people into the game. It does need some work to set up but it would allow for an easier time building content into the setting without beating your head against a wall. It would require a loremaster though to work new content into the setting but it's less intensive than it sounds once the initial setup is done.

In-game it would likely manifest as a set descriptives people could use if they don't want to custom make something for the setting.

So for example something like this:

Saress, Tribal Lamia Female

<Physical description stuff>

Born to a clan in the Woodlands, Saress is more feral than most Lamia and doesn't care about the human world. In her eyes it just meant more prey to hunt, at least until her capture although the opportunity to capture more prey as a Huntress has kept her happy.

Which would be something like this in code (not going to example it as full FC code):

<slaveName>, <type> <race> <gender>

<if customStory = "1" display><elseif race = "lamia"><gender = "female"><type = "woodlandtribalhunter">

(Elsewhere in the code)

<type ="woodlandtribalhunter">Born <faction = "clan">to a clan in the Woodlands, <slaveName> is more feral than most Lamia and doesn't care about the human world. In <gender> eyes it just meant more prey to hunt, at least until her capture <job = "Slaver">although the opportunity to capture more prey as a <gender ="female">Huntress<else>Slaver has kept <gender> <mood = "50">happy<elseif mood = "30">busy<else>distracted.

Now I could probably simplify it further but anyway…. The point of this is that once the lore is in place you can basically implement a system that automatically aids writers in bringing new content into line with the world lore, which you can further aid by providing reference documents about where they can be found and what races are usually found in them. Once a writer has a set of guidelines like that to work from and the fluff is written into the code it makes life a lot easier for ensuring consistency in the setting. If they opt for a custom story though than any inconsistency is one them to fix unless it gets merged.

As an afterthought…

The whole reason I mention doing it that way is as that allows for writers to opt to include world tags in their events or not so long as it's defined in the characters you get from it/can inspect. I'd generally try to keep lore events and such in their own events and have "generic" encounters as it were or specialised ones with prerequisites that help define the setting. Bringing the in world context partially into the character display just lightens the load a bit on modders as they can focus on their events a bite more than shoehorning it to fit.

>>27365

>Lamia

>Winged

The wingspan needed to lift a human torso and snek capable of moving said torso would be massive.

You guys might want to add a physical characteristics tag group as well to help writers writing events for said species, IE [Cloaca] [Cold blooded?] ["Legless"] [Can't wear pants] If you really want to channel the 'tism you could work out whether Lamias are based off of constrictors or venomous snakes.

>>27390

I'm not one of the dev team, Lamia was just the species my brain picked for exampling it. But yeah there's a whole host of code that could go along with races that would function with other ones.

Furfags really are the strongest and fastest cancer known to online man.

I go away for a few days and am greeted with the absolutely abhorrent trite above this post.

Multiple times anons have warned you about the furfag menace, LCDev. You give them an inch; you say it will be optional content, that doesn't matter. Cancer is not optional content. Cancer consumes all.

Far too many times have I seen the consequences of these abominations upon whatever their Cheeto-stained hairy hands lay upon. The most notorious of which in recent memory being CoC.

Furfags and humans cannot cohabitate. Years of experience has demonstrated to me that the only solution is constant chemotherapeutic action against such creatures, and a quarantine for them vis a vis old /b/ and the creation of /vp/.

Previously, this kind of situation would make me feel anger. I would post perhaps a line or two consisting of the word furfag and an additional slur or two. After seeing the same sequence of events unfold before me time and time again, for a period sufficient enough for a drop of sperm to coagulate into a first grader, all that is left is exasperation.

Perhaps you shall be the hero that proves this form of multiculturalism can succeed, and sit upon the throne of corpses that was everyone else who shared your sentiments. Or perhaps history shall repeat it self again.

Nonetheless, you could have listened.

>>27365

will you make driders?

Do you guys have a list of the different creatures that will be in the game?

>>27471

>Nonetheless, you could have listened.

Nah, I don't think you have much to worry about. The anon above put some time and effort into those posts, so I saved them in case we need them. But realistically, I highly doubt we'll be adding anything non-human any time soon.

The main issue would be the writing. You can loosen the shit out of someone's cunt without drastically altering most of the writing. But add fur, wings, paws, (real) snake bodies, etc and you're looking at a fuckton of conditional writing that has to be added to each event/interaction. We just don't have the time or interest in that right now. We have the next eight builds planned out and narrowed down, and those are all before the game is even playable; non-human NPCs would be a huge departure from our roadmap. I mean, I personally still want to add non-furry {cat,fox,dog,wolf}girls to the game, but I doubt I'll have the opportunity to before the year's end.

Since I'm on a midnight ramble, I have to say, furfags have been the least of my concerns. We had a couple of them, and both were pretty decent folks. They understood that furry content wasn't a priority at the time, and I never had a problem with them. But since we're dropping 20+ people from the team on Monday, I can say things I couldn't before.

The lurkers here aren't what they seem, or at least they're not what they're supposed to be. I have had to deal with an astronomical amount of SJW bullshit over the past couple of months. It's like that recruitment drive just opened tumblr's floodgates, and the shit came pouring in. It has tried my motivation moreso than any other problem I've discussed here. Recruiting devs on 8chan, I kind of figured it would be a mix of /tech/ and /pol/, and that we'd all sit around talking about the immigration crisis while posting Stallman crap in our off time. But I was dead wrong. It's been nothing but private complaints since the start. Member 1 doesn't appreciate Member 2's tone. Members 3, 4, and 5 think Member 6 is trying to shut down discussion because he replies too quickly. Member 7 feels slighted because they weren't part of a minor conversation earlier. Member 8 actually resembles someone from 8chan and this is seen as the coming of the second holocaust to half of the team. And while I'm trying to resolve all of this crap, Member 9 decides to stuff their ideology down Member 10's throat. Member 10 is doing their absolute best to politely end the conversation, but it's just not stopping. I mentioned back in like thread v2 that I had started a side project that I would wait until I had a mostly complete game of before announcing, and this whole experience has really put me off of the idea of ever recruiting people for that project. I know I get a bit salty over the shitposting in here, but I would take a day's worth of that over the days I've been having any time.

Luckily, that all comes to an end tomorrow. We're dumping the bucket out and keeping 7 or 8 people total; the ones that have contributed the most to the game. The ones that we're keeping have been nearly flawless compared to the ones we're not. I've been more of a burden to them as a shitty project manager than any of them have been to me. Unfortunately we're spread across nearly as many time zones as we have people now, so a discussion that should take an hour takes three days, but at least it's back to being enjoyable again.

>>27496

>Do you guys have a list of the different creatures that will be in the game?

We have no plans for creatures at this time or in the near future; just people.

>>27501

>The lurkers here aren't what they seem, or at least they're not what they're supposed to be. I have had to deal with an astronomical amount of SJW bullshit

/hgg/ feels like it has a ton of newfags pretending they aren't sometimes, also signing up probably deterred most "channers".

>Recruiting devs on 8chan, I kind of figured it would be a mix of /tech/ and /pol/

Shame I can't write or code worth a damn.

>>27505

Maybe non-human modifications at the least if it's not done yet in the realm of tattoos, where it makes them into a catgirl or something? I haven't played since 1.01 so that might already be added/in development but just throwing that out with my second comment.

One of the things that bothers me about the game is how streamlined the events are. The world seems to fall apart in the exact same way. I'd like to see more random events and maybe a randomized or slightly differed order of events when rebuilidng society- though to be fair I only played caliphate because allahu akbar give me the 72 virgins.

>>27507

>makes them into a catgirl or something? I haven't played since 1.01

Catgirls, along with the other common xgirls are planned, but only in the vague sense that they will be added eventually. Though I'm not sure we're talking about the same game. We haven't had release numbers since the brief period that we were a fork of Free Cities (and even then, we never had a 1.x release). We don't even have events yet, aside from an arguably brief intro that needs to be changed around.

>>27510

Libre Cities v0.1.0A (early)

Date modified(downloaded): 06/30/16

My bad. I mean the things like, buying out the military- those sort of events. When I was running my caliphate I could get drones and security cameras and shit. Did I somehow download free cities and rename it Libre for no reason?

>>27511

Oh wow, that was our first release, posted on day 1. That date really makes me wonder where my summer went, but that's another issue entirely.

Yeah, that was back when we were a Free Cities fork. The last version we published of that is still on our blog if you want to see how it turned out, but we're an entirely different game now (and finally changing the name on Monday). FC's codebase was too much of a mess, and we really wanted to add snakes despite FC Author's one request that we don't. Though considering he basically told the chan to fuck off, I wouldn't feel bad about it now. Either way, we're now an extremely ambitious and overly hyped project crawling along at a snai's pace.But what we lack in progress, we more than make up for in complete wiki overhauls.

>>27514

I see, I see. So this isn't the same game? You guys started fresh with the concept? I would like to see an improved code- if that's the case I highly recommend making the game's events- if they're added, more randomized for replayability. Maybe also a clothing store you can visit that allows you to make clothing? I noticed the outfits seem to have an elegance score and a name. It'd be easy to make new clothing in a simple fill-in-the-blank interface.

>>27501

>I have had to deal with an astronomical amount of SJW bullshit over the past couple of months

>It's like that recruitment drive just opened tumblr's floodgates

You poor bastards.

Although, I honestly should have expected that… those fuckers love to ruin everything. Thank Allah you told them to fuck off.

As for the Furfag Menace, I think the problem there is that Fenoxo was a weak piece of shit more than furries being a problem. Plus he was a paranoid fucker, like Stalin. Then again there's a difference between a Furry and a Furfag; there are those that love the artform and fetish and those that can't wait to rub it in your face. Same thing for Gay Men and Faggots; you get the normal type of people and then you get those that dress up their kids in gimp gear and take them out on parade. Anyways, keep a solid spine and you'll do fine. Just don't forget to draw a line. I love to rhyme.

>>27501

I warned you man. I told you this was going to happen, I specifically said that most of the people on your team were rotten Marxist filth and that they would attempt to subvert and take over the project. It's what they always do with any community that welcomes them, and especially those that do it in the spirit of fairness. There's a reason /v/ and /pol/ either tell them to fuck off back to /leftypol/ or ban them on sight. There is no end with those fucks.

At least you're doing the sensible thing in the end and shoahing them out, though I must admit I feel bad for you for having to deal with them for so long. Should have just told them to fuck off the moment they started whining about racist slurs or chan humor.

>>27535

>I think the problem there is that Fenoxo was a weak piece of shit more than furries being a problem

No, the problem with furries is that they are deep into the autism spectrum, on top of a shitload of other mental issues, and coupled with an absolute lack of social life makes them a formidable tidal wave of shit crashing into any community they come into contact with.

They never quit, they can stay online for days with nothing better to do but push and keep on pushing until they wear you out, and since they are mentally ill they see no problem in throwing ridiculous amounts of cash on their disgusting fetish.

>Then again there's a difference between a Furry and a Furfag

No.

>Same thing for Gay Men and Faggots

No.

Both are mentally ill and both are physically unable to make their lives not revolve around their sexual preferences. In a sane society they'd get sequestered away in mental asylums for proper treatment instead of being allowed to roam free on the streets.

>>27556

angst much?

What ever they did to you man? Kill. ops, fucked you cat? Your dog?

Are you nazi perchance?

Now you''ll tell me of the good old times when you cold go around with your retarded kkk friends and lynch any nigger you saw just because you were bored, imma right?

Was was the last time you crucified someone anon?

>>27577

You sound upset.

>>27577

I have to say playing on the fears about a wave of newfaggotry caused by the current events is pretty clever across the boards. People can't help but take the bait just in case.

>>27577

>Was was the last time you crucified someone anon?

Last thursday.

I was grilling some niggers in my backyard..or might have been burgers.

Can't tell anymore, the media told me I was worse than KK and ISIS combines, so they must be right.

>>27601

>I was grilling some niggers in my backyard

Eating monkey meat can give you the shivers same as cannibalism.

>or might have been burgers

This is plain cannibalism.

>the media told me I was worse than KK and ISIS combines

Don't forget the Nazis, oh, and you're responsible for all the evils of humanity ever you disgustingly normal, white, heterosexual person.

>>27556

Trust me, I know gay people that would love to crucify the faggots in the pride parades. Straight up nail them to a cross and watch them die of dehydration and heat.

There's a difference.

As for furries. I dunno, maybe I gave too much benefit of doubt, but I've seen some express disgust at what the "community" has become, largely towards the SJW shit, but I don't think they're quite there yet with the crucifixion. I do agree that there is a prevalence of autism - perhaps not even spectrum - and they have a formidable wave of bullshit that needs to be shut down immediately. Which is why I said Fenoxo is a weak piece of shit; he took the money, forsook his friends and community, and then proceeded to bitch and moan that a bunch of "channers" were mocking his infidelity and not that he was dumb enough to actually do it. He pulled a Buckley. He also has an ego the size of the Möbius Dick, which furries love to flock to and suck up -- which he loves and enjoys immensely. Even Savin can't stop sucking his dick, despite Savin hating furry stuff to his own autism levels. Point is: He surrounds himself with sycophants and shuts out anything else – which to my knowledge is something LCDev learned not to do.

CoC's mess could have been avoided if Fenoxo wasn't such a fucking degenerate without a soul and actually straight up told the furfags to STFU and/or GTFO. Like Slablands did.

>>26147

And then not realizing there was a dust-up about it elsewhere, I suggested it on Reddit. Lolz

>>27669

You may be right about telling them to shut it, but despite how much a degenerate or a faggot fenoxo is, and he is quite a big one, both coc and tits a quite well known project, perhaps infamous may sound better all considered, but famous nonetheless

Plus he took quite the penny, and he still do, to develop both games, and even if savin ultra-retard thinking summed up to fen idiosyncrasy like behavior may lead up to people being tired of their bullshit, these two project still ended up being quite lucrative and still ended up being pretty well known in the community

All thanks to the furfag?

Slablands is quite the funny game, but in caparison to coc and tits it's barely known, and far too vanilla to hold interest for long

Maybe the problem are not the furfags, is the obsessive furfags that must and can't live without it to to point of obsession that end up twisting anything that way, or maybe are the ones that can't see a girl without a dick attached to it that are the problem, and the two concept ended up mixed up in the nightmarish futa feast that tits has become

I doubt that the furfag are responsible to what happened to coc, it's far more probable that fenoxo and friends couldn't keep up with the idea of making a game that could appeal to both furry and not, and ended up with that mess, with modified scenes to not look too furry or bestiality

And of course coc was financed by commission before, so if the people that payed wanted mostly fur tingy, the game could only have gone that way

I remember he didn't have a job anymore at that point, so it's not that he could actually choose to just ignore those fat, easy cash requests

In the end it was a combination of events that made coc as it is, fenoxo incapacity to clearly divide content based on fetish is probably responsible for half the results, the other half being his greed when he stopped caring what he wrote, saving cocksucking not helping in the least

>>27669

I never said there aren't outliners. Hell, I hate niggers with a burning passion and I'll openly admit that there are some, like Sowell and that youtube negro that likes white people and makes nigger sows mad.

Same applies to faggots. For every Milo out there there is a million degenerate assfuckers that deserve the gas chamber. Hell, even Jews have their exceptions.

What I'm trying to say is not to confuse the exceptions for the rule. These people are mentally ill and for most the shaoh would be a blessing.

>>27701

>All thanks to the furfag?

You've never seen furries throw thousands of dollars at shitty art of their fursona, or paying people to make their fursuit. Furries have no concept of money like normal people, likely because they are all subsidized through autismbux.

>>27705

I'm not normally one to kink shame, but I have to agree on this one. I'll be honest, I don't mind furry porn myself, but I have seen how pathetic those people can get.

My frame of reference is while I was looking through the comments of Trap Quest. There was someone literally begging the dev to add a super-specific furry transformation into the game and kept offering money to see it happen. Props to the dev for telling him no.

Good evening, all; happy Plane Day.

Our struggle for today has been deciding on a name to replace "Libre Cities," seeing that it hasn't been relevant in over a month. If you guys want to toss around any name ideas, we'll happily use whatever sticks.

>>27701

My argument was that the bad ones ruined CoC and TiTS; that's why I called them furfags. I separate them like I do gays with dykes for terrible gay women and faggots for terrible gay men. So not all furries are furfags, but all furfags are terrible, terrible people. I use people loosely and because I'm required to by UN Law. Probably. I dunno, Obongo is gonna hand the internet over to those fucks.

It's true that Slablands is little known.

However, I think they like it like that. The current guy running the show even said he can't stand the thought of taking money for the project and even was wary to let writers take commission; not that he didn't see the value in the argument - I mean he would get final say on what project gets in, etc - just that money is a poison in their eyes and for damned good reason. It works for them - even if it is vanilla - and mostly they enjoy themselves. I don't think this project will be about money quite like how CoC was or TiTS is; attracts the wrong people. I mean, holy shit LCDev wasn't even taking money and he already had Tumblr types try to infect his shit after that recruitment drive. If LC does go for money it should be no more than a tip jar; no fancy tiers or any of that shit… I don't think those would even work for a game like this. RPG shit, yeah, but I dunno so much about this. Different beast. Plus Breeding Season happened, which was a bummer because I was looking forward to that one… money is a bad thing. Bad money. Terrible money. Should go back to trading bones and shiny rocks.

NOW ON TO THE RANT:

And I have to disagree on it not being primarily Fenoxo's fault. The guy sperged like no fucking tomorrow, alienating his best writers and does so even today. He STILL snipes ideas from people and then focuses on his stolen project before their finished project. The guy's an asshole. You can take commissions and not be an asshole about it. You can take money and not be an asshole about it. What he did was basically charge voters to pay to vote for their favorite candidate. He also shut down fundraisers before anyone other than his IRC knew because they reached the limit so fast and he did that knowing he'd get to work on HIS projects before anyone else… because they're all fucking sycophants. The guy was the primary problem. The furfags didn't help at all; they were just gasoline to a raging inferno. Strangely enough Patreon actually freed TiTS from that bullshit fundraiser crap he set up, I guess it's true about broken clocks…

I don't care that it's making bank, that's not my business. Idiots can throw money at it, I know I did before realising what a fucking asshole he was. I threw money at his Offbeatr and I have to live with that. These people are different kind of league, though. I gave money to the value he had given me; they're the rich fuckers at a strip club that make it rain and start a bidding war with the other rich guy to the detriment of everyone else in the club. If they want to throw money at him, whatever, it's their money. They fucked it up for a lot of people, but clearly that doesn't matter because for every guy that left they can throw $100 at the fucking thing. It is by no means a standard of quality, in case that was the argument you were making… I don't think it was, but I might as well cover that because it leads to this funny thing: I mean, Jesus Christ, there's a fucking diaperfag that's making $1500 a month on Patreon for shitty art. It's not even good on its own terms, the line work is terrible, there's no shading and it looks like a fucking 12 year old drew it.

Plus there has been an increasing amount of fursecution dialogue coming from TiTS, which leads me to believe that fucker hasn't learned a goddamned thing and even embraced his degeneracy to an entirely new level. I'd be okay with the idea that people that morphed themselves into an anthropomorphic entity get persecuted and I could sympathise with that in a Sci-Fi setting; I'm a live and let live kind of guy until you kick down my door, which of course it fucking does when it shoves it down my throat and I'm TOLD to feel bad for the character. That's when I draw the fucking line and set up the gallows. Especially when the character did it mostly because they thought it was hot and not because they had any kind of species dysphoria or anything of the sort. They go into debt because they think it's fucking hot to be a fox. Yeah.

Anyways, we agree Fenoxo is a terrible degenerate. I just feel he's more to blame than you do, which is fine, it's not a bad place to disagree at… I just wanted to explain why I feel he's mostly responsible.

>>27784

When we move to the new domain, our usual design documents will be available again, but for the specifics:

>Post-Apocalypse?

The game takes place in a post-apocalyptic world, but the Zones themselves are more dystopian.

>What's capable?

Near-future levels of technological advancement. Outside the Zones, you mostly just have an irradiated wasteland and the skeletons of former cities. Within the Zone, technology has been preserved to an unrealistically adequate degree where we prioritize things that lead to porn over an accurate depiction of living in a bunker after shit hits the fan.

>How common or uncommon advanced tech is?

It's mostly based on status. As the player works their way up the societal ladder, they have access to more and better tech.

>What kind of societies can we be expected to build or take part in?

We have a system of dynamic factions in the making, but we're putting a lot of that on the back burner for now, so I don't have a concrete idea yet.

With the team dumping, we're going to keep the remaining members focused on a single task at a time instead of having everyone work on their own ideas. Most of the backend should be finished now, so we're starting on the actual gameplay tomorrow. The short summary of our first build in the roadmap is just "Generate slave, see slave details, add slave, and remove slave." So it will be awhile before we get back to factions and societies.

>>27501

I put pretty much zero effort into that, the only reason I even went with a non-human race is because it gave a stronger example of the system setup. I've done some RP dev in the past so stuff like that is nothing for me, also while I am technically a furry (you'll never find me in the fursuitting community though with the way they are). I'm more of a prose based RPer with few limitations on the settings I'll RP or dev stuff for.

Anyway to clarify, I just used Lamia as a system example because it's the first thing that came to mind as I'd literally just finished killing some in a game before posting. It was more of an example framework than anything else, I have ZERO expectations of stuff like that being added to the game due to the setting being modern (I'm assuming).

I could have exampled it using catgirls or something but I wanted to have a little fun with the example. Changing it to a catgirl could give something like this though:

Race: Catgirl

Genders: Male, Female, Herm

Archetypes: Near-Human, Predator, Lazy, Playful

Typical Type: Hunter, Feral, Tribal, Runaway, Splicer

Typical Characteristics: Playful, Lazy, Boisterous, Cunning

Rare Characteristics: Addict (Catnip), Tailed, Clawed, Fanged

Locations: Ruined City, Woodlands, Labs

Origins: Natural, Transformed

Factions: Independent, Splicers, Mercenary

Changing for non sub-content is even easier, it just takes the Faction thing.

Group: Mercenary

Race: Any

Types: Hunter, Solider, Law Enforcement

Good Description: Knowing the world is at a crossroads <he/she> has given up on their former life, using their skills to provide for themselves.

Bad Description: <He/She> has lost hope in their former faction, the depravity of the changing world and the petty struggles of the <faction> led to them <solo>striking out with on their own<group>signing up with <sub-faction>.

So yeah…. I was more suggesting a way of defining lore specific guides and showing how it might be used than suggesting actual content.

Also if anyone had been playing attention I have a mini-mod for FC that's on haitus (hence why I actually have a name) at the moment, mostly because his code annoys me and I want dev to get further before I go back to it

>>27795

>Near-Human

Humanoid would sound and look better?

>>27795

I'm not part of the dev team, but I could see you work on a wiki.

>>27827

In a Sci-Fi setting I'd agree with you, in a modern setting and if I was a dev I'd either go with adding a sub-race feature to be called when via modifications or in FC style it could be in among the race/nationality code. I opted for Near-Human as it lends itself better to modification than humanoid in my eyes.

>>27828

I've been toying with throwing in an app, hadn't considered a wiki though as I've never really bothered to learn the format (I've glanced at it though and it's not that complicated on most setups). Personally I'd more lean towards coding content (not functions, that's beyond me right now), lore (in-game codex thing maybe?) and stuff.

>>27789

What can we expect in terms of slave variety? Will we be able to get that Olympic volleyball team?

>>27795

>Rare Characteristics: Addict (Catnip), Tailed, Clawed, Fanged

What the fuck is this heresy?

Catgirls have tails and ears, it's how you tell each xgirl type from another.

>>27844

I'd just woken up,should have been

Characteristics: Tailed

Rare Characteristics: Twin-Taled

>>25353

No, keep the aaaays away.

You don't need them for fancy tech

>>27847

I suspect Todd is trying to shit up the game same way he shat up Fallout.

>>27789

>Wasteland Kingdoms

>Snek Cities

>Bunker Barron

>Scavenger Harems

>Dust Zones

Polite sage for shitty names.

I was thinking "Slave Society"

>>27587

>The weak should fear the strong.

Is that why you're so afraid?

>>28051

HERETIC TODD HOWARD! DIE SCUM

>>27501

Kick everyone out except member 8 and start again :^)

>>27501

>I mentioned back in like thread v2 that I had started a side project that I would wait until I had a mostly complete game of before announcing, and this whole experience has really put me off of the idea of ever recruiting people for that project. I know I get a bit salty over the shitposting in here, but I would take a day's worth of that over the days I've been having any time.

Really as long as you go into it knowing that some tumblrfags will join up and being ready to kick them out immediately I'd think it'd be fine to have another recruitment drive if you need people later. I mean you say you've got 8 left so apparently some good people join up, just have to be firm and quick to stop bullshit.

>>28308

There easiest way to root them out is to keep making racist jokes and using racist slurs at any and every opportunity, and then wait for them to get triggered.

>>27780

>Our struggle for today has been deciding on a name to replace "Libre Cities," seeing that it hasn't been relevant in over a month. If you guys want to toss around any name ideas, we'll happily use whatever sticks.

Phoenix Bond?

Just like the Phoenix rises from the ashes of its corpse the PC rises from the ashes of their past life & the Zone rises from the ashes of the Fall. And of course "bond" has many meanings, including "bondage" a.k.a. "slavery".

Name:

Mirage Oasis

As in the zones are oasis in the wasteland, but they're little more than mirages of "civilisation".

>>28310

This, do something edgy/rascist/non pc to get tumbrlites to react, when they react purge them

>>28310

>>28451

That's a certain approach but I think it could blow up spectacularly. I mean, if you'd try to jam in edgy/racist stuff all the time, it'd look retarded and shitty enough that people would start to get annoyed for the same reason they get annoyed by political correctedness - because it'd be the same boring shit being forced down their throats, no matter which side of socio-political spectrum it represents.

Just make a game, don't add any special SJW shit, don't add special edgy shit to 'test people', make a decent game where I have an option of doing whatever and indulge my kinks and if someone else is triggered - tough luck, they can play their game however they want, but they have no impact on what I'll do in mine and LCDev shouldn't care either.

>>27780

My Magical (Post-Apocalyptic) Realm

Afterfall Decadence

Not Really Vaporware

Survive and Multiply

Kinky New World

Faggotworld

>Libre Cities

So, it's a hentai game for gobbledy-gook Linux nuts?

>>28712

I'm not talking about the game, just typical chan talk among the dev team.

Instead of saying black, say nigger, instead of Jew, kike, say holohoax a lot and see what leftist parasite bites.

>>28759

>So, it's a hentai game for gobbledy-gook Linux nuts?

I'm more of an OpenBSD person.

Hello 8ch,

Here we have 4 of our jobs that a slave can perform during a time period.

Stripper

Street Whore

Brothel Whore

Escort

And the end of the day, the player would receive a report of their performance for that job during that time period. The report could describe a positive, negative or neutral result.

We're looking for vignettes describing these.

At this point, we're looking for something around 60-100 words per vignette. We'dd prefer many of these small vignettes over a few big vignettes. Because if you where to put all your slaves on the same job for all the time periods of the day, you wouldn't want to see the same vignette over and over again.

If someone feels inspired by any of these jobs, do drop your load in here and I'll do my best to make the most of your submission.

>>28792

Hey, since 8ch is pretty slow, I think it would be judicious to share your writing requests at 4ch.

I'm precisely thinking of /d/'s writing general. It's a pretty slow thread but some writers produce quality material.