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Find a hobby he likes, spin it that way. Also video games industry makes more than the film industry, yet people took the Oscars not being black enough to be the most serious thing. Finally, journalistic ethics extend far beyond video games.

The simple way is to point out the money angle

Ask him if he wants game review to be trustworthy. Ask him if he wants his favorite youtuber to be honest about whether or not they're getting paid to promote a game.

then again, if he's a young little shit who's only supply of money is his allowance… then his perspective of the value of his money is kinda skewed.

If he's older, try to think back: Have you or him ever bought a game that turned out to be shit? Point out that it likely got a really good review that was probably just paid for…

>>323958

>Considered by some as a curiosity in the mid-1970s, the computer and video game industries have grown from focused markets to mainstream. They took in about US$9.5 billion in the US in 2007, 11.7 billion in 2008, and 25.1 billion in 2010 (ESA annual report).

>>323959

He loves movies and music and watch Redlettermedia. Not sure about the music market, but the movie market is filled with leftism. But he probably doesn't care.

>>323962

The discussion started when I said it's lame that movie critics are paid to give opinions, when everyone else need to pay to watch movies.

He said it's fine as long as the critic studied movies (although he's aware that most critics didn't).

Then I keep arguing that, even in this case, it's still lame they can watch movies for free AND be paid at the same time. After that I put videogame critics in the discussion, since none of them studied games, but they still are paid to play games.

In this case he argued that videogame are toys and therefore it would be dumb to take things like "ethics in toys journalism" seriously. He said I was taking these things too seriously.

To be fair the discussion wasn't deep and he didn't seem to be consistent. I'm just sad that he's drinking the leftist kool-aid about almost every aspect of the society. One time he got VERY angry at me for mocking the pope talk about the refugees in Europe.

>>323962

>then again, if he's a young little shit who's only supply of money is his allowance… then his perspective of the value of his money is kinda skewed.

This is a good argument btw.

Regardless of being "toys", they're consumer products, on which people spend their hard-earned money.

What's not "serious" about people who should be providing consumers with information on prospective purchases using their platforms to push their dumbfuck ideologies and give fuckbuddies and colleagues asspats instead?

I completely disagree that its lame that movie reviewers get paid to watch movies.

You could argue that its lame that footballers are paid to play football.

But on the whole video games thing, its important because of the sums of money involved.

The toy thing is just his perspective. Someone who reads a lot of books would say that movies are toys.

If you have con artists in a field that makes billions upon billions of dollars, that will affect peoples lives.

Someone could dedicate huge amounts of resources to making a game that people will truly love, and it would get buried in preference for an awful game made in ten minutes because the person who made it has friends in influential places. Then everyone loses out.

Considering hes young and naive, he wont really understand this until it happens to him or someone he is close to.

Which will happen at some point then you can say 'I told you so'.

>>323966

Good one.

>>323967

> I completely disagree that its lame that movie reviewers get paid to watch movies.

Why? They are paid to give… opinions. It's weird.

Unlike most GGers, I don't think there's such as thing as "objective reviews". People are people and have different desires. Movies will resonate differently with different people.

> You could argue that its lame that footballers are paid to play football.

At least they entertain people. But it's lame how much money footballers get.

>>323980

>Why? They are paid to give… opinions

So are people who do market research testing.

You can get paid to drink beer or eat chocolate bars or play computer games.

As long as you are adding more value to a firm than the wage you take away, its a legit job.

In life some people have shitty awful jobs that they hate and other people get paid to fuck about.

>>323958

does he wear boxers, briefs, or a stash of nylon/satin panties?

>>323980

>Unlike most GGers, I don't think there's such as thing as "objective reviews". People are people and have different desires. Movies will resonate differently with different people.

I don't skim an issue of the Dupont Registry(a rich catalog of luxury cars for sale) and expect a Dupont writer to shit on Ferrarri owners and call Jaguar enthusiasts racist. Honestly the video game publishers have dropped the ball in letting the enthusiast press get to this point, there's got to be a middle ground between outright advertising & hatred for the thing you're writing about.

>>323958

Does he play vidya? If he doesn't then there's no point in arguing about it. He doesn't care. If he does then don't bother and laugh at his dumb ass every time he buys a shitty game that got good reviews. Some people need to stick a fork in the light socket more then once to learn a lesson.

Video games aren't toys, they are art. For example, Shadow of the Colossus and Depression Quest.

>>323958

>What should I say to him?

See if your brother posts on ghazi, revolt, SA, NeoGaf, SRS, or stormfront first to know what kind of SJW he is.

>>323958

>What should I say to him?

See if your brother posts on ghazi, revolt, SA, NeoGaf, SRS, or stormfront first to know what kind of SJW he is.

>>323958

Ask him if he doesn't want good reviews on $60 products. He's a dumbass.

>>323987

answer pls