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 No.77861>>77865 >>77869 >>77900 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

guys i might not be a furry but like, you fell below /zoo/

i remember when you used to be much further up there on the board list

you guys doing alright? what happened?

 No.77862

politics was #1 priority

people realized there was better boards to talk politics on


 No.77863

Hasn't been much discussion lately. Things slow as a result.


 No.77865

>>77861 (OP)

A lot of threads get spammed with political discussion which derails discussion a lot.


 No.77867>>77874 >>77937 >>77987 >>78074

Oldfag here; time for a history lesson on the fall of /furry/

/furry/ was a top board on here since I came before/during the first exodus of cuckchan back when /ebola/ was a top board. Other than a porndump, it thrived because no other imageboard had a furry centric board and, unlike many other furry communities, wasn't a hugbox with a popufur clique or a place where you would get censored by oversensitive rulecucks.

The board was actually fun, it had discussion and even pumped out OC (like N8) along with fap fuel from porn dumps. However, eventually some autist named Bui or somebody impersonating him spammed the board to hell and back. Somehow a bot lifted messages from 4cucks /trash/ and posted them in threads randomly. Puppysky (the mod of /furry/) at the time was an incompetent dumbass and left the board to rot to the spam for weeks.

/fur/ came along and basically salvaged the userbase from the rotted corpse of /furry/, but by then it was too late. A lot of the userbase splintered, traveling to /trash/, r/furry, furaffinity, e621, tumblr, twitter, and other places. While this place isn't bad, it's missing something that made /furry/ back in the day really fun; I don't know whether it's the obsession with "muh discussion no pron", the overactive mods, the lack of OC and creators, the retarded anons bringing their politics into every thing, or just the general lack of traffic (with 8chan in general), but the heyday of murring and yiffing on Mongolian basketweaving forums seems long gone.


 No.77869>>77873

>>77861 (OP)

real answer : /trash/ from halfchan became a thing. Furries had no place in halfchan before that so they came here


 No.77873

>>77869

I'm okay with post-Exodus 4channers going back.


 No.77874

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>>77867

I was here for the first raid. It is really sad, /furry/ was legit great before the first bui-raid


 No.77900>>77904

>>77861 (OP)

Retards aren't getting banned for the sake of traffic. Check OP at the Hugo thread.


 No.77904>>77907

>>77900

A big problem is some of the people who consistently derail threads use TOR. There's been a lot of debate among the moderation staff if we should ban TOR users entirely but we're somewhat afraid the userbase won't like that.


 No.77907>>77949 >>77951

>>77904

Whoever uses TOR has something to hide and is therefore an asshole who should be remove.

Just saying. Those are the same people crying that sites take user data. Oh yes, if that's so much of a problem, what are you hiding?!


 No.77937>>77955 >>77984 >>78076

>>77867

Since long before the spam, fullchan has been in a precipitous spiraling decline, which really can be traced back to the election of Trump. Hear me out for a second. See, the very nature of fullchan and the people that supported it was as a bastion of unpopular opinions and counterculture. We were supposed to be the outcasts, the ones that everyone hated, the ones that stubbornly clung to our principals and beliefs even if we were ridiculed for it. We were too fucked up even for halfchan, which is why we left. /pol/ was a big part of that, because they were Trump supporters and racists and wannabe Nazis. That attitude colored (lol) the entire board, for better or for worse, and being on the outs of society gave them strength and unity of cause.

Then Trump got elected. Suddenly, they were all among peers. Their batshit insane ideologies and flaming racism suddenly became the worst thing possible: ordinary and commonplace. Whereas /pol/ used to be counterculture warriors, they became NORMALFAGS. It was no longer edgy and wrong to like Trump and Nazis: he is the PRESIDENT, and he SUPPORTS them. Fullchan won a fight they had never expected or even intended to win, and it deflated them entirely. They all collectively looked at their shoes, shuffled around a bit, and muttered "Well... now what?" They're lost and without purpose now, and so started spreading out into other boards like this one, bored and listless. That, in turn, started to chase off all the artists and content-creators that prefer NICE communities, rather than ones where they're called faggot cuck soyboys every other sentence. The spamming was a pretty big nail in the coffin, but even before that /furry/ was transitioning (double lol) into little more than a porn dump. The existence of e621 made that rather pointless.

The thing is, imageboards have always been generalized. There's a little bit of everything for people to find if they come here. But the internet and communities of all kinds are fragmenting into smaller and smaller pieces, and each piece branding itself as only for one particular thing. In a world full of specialists, a jack of all trades (master of none) has no place anymore. It's just the way it is. Fullchan is leading the charge into the abyss, but it won't be the only one. Kids, and I mean REAL kids, don't use them anymore. They use twitter and tumblr and reddit and discord, each of them branding themselves as being that ONE thing they're looking for. An imageboard cannot brand itself, except very broadly. Fullchan wanted to be counterculture, until it found itself firmly in normal culture. In true hipster fashion, it's popular now it sucks, so everyone's abandoning ship. What's left? What does this place offer that nowhere else does?

Nothing.


 No.77949

>>77907

What are you doing on 8chan?


 No.77951

>>77907

they have it because knowing the censorship on the internet they have no choice but to go there i don't have TOR but i understand the purpose for it.


 No.77955>>77981

>>77937

I don't really buy the fact that it's normalfag since people like Roseanne got fired for those views.

It's likely that Discord and /trash/ siphoned the content. Me? I'm capable of creating stuff, it's just that I'm not good at it yet to start posting.


 No.77981>>78005

>>77955

Roseanne didn't get fired for her views, she got fired for VOICING them. Big difference. Public figures, of any kind, have to watch their mouths, but at the same time anyone can be racist. Go ahead and tell your family and close friends how much you hate niggers; don't post it on twitter where it can be saved for eternity or say it on national television.

If I were good enough of an artist (or if the written word were worth ANYTHING) I'd be off making money on an artist's site. Why the FUCK would anyone draw shit for free over here, when they could be making at least some pocket change, somewhere else?


 No.77984

>>77937

>The thing is, imageboards have always been generalized. There's a little bit of everything for people to find if they come here. But the internet and communities of all kinds are fragmenting into smaller and smaller pieces, and each piece branding itself as only for one particular thing. In a world full of specialists, a jack of all trades (master of none) has no place anymore.

I wish there was a way to reverse this, or at least have the fragments co-exist without siphoning the others.


 No.77987>>78000 >>78031

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>>77867

I honestly feel that way about 8chan and the internet in general. After the slow dissolve of gamergate and people started really trying to make communities here the site was at it's peak, but since hotwheels abandoned us it's dying a slow, cooling death. Halfchan isn't nearly as bad as it used to be, but it's just not the same after it exploded in popularity. It really seems like the internet operates on entropy laws, where it will eventually homogenize into a few major social media sites (like reddit) with strict moderation, little culture, and becoming increasingly focused on the data mining aspect. Occasionally a forum or imageboard (like 8ch) pops up as a little blip against the trend, but they'll fade and everyone here will be forced onto the bigger sites again or basically abandon any online social aspect of their hobbies.

>which really can be traced back to the election of Trump

Dude it goes back WAY further, it started on halfchan when /pol/ was created as a containment board (like /mlp was) because the /news/ board caught the eyes of white supremacists. The problem is they can't keep it contained, for whatever reason the need to bitch about niggers and jews had to extend to literally everything. You couldn't talk about BBQ in /ck/ without the thread being brigaded about "nigger food", you couldn't talk about scooby doo in /co/ without dozens of posts about it being the best show ever because they taught kids to be "red pilled". Everywhere you went was nothing but complaining about big black cocks stealing white women and jews. When /v/ migrated to 8chan because the admins and moot were banning and deleting gamergate discussion, they followed. Since gamergate's ire was against game devs who turned out to be SJWs (literally who 1 and 2), it was the perfect breeding ground to turn it from a consumer revolt about nepotistic game reviews into what we now call the alt-right movement. /pol/ established a strong foothold in /gamergate/ and later /gg/ and it spread to twitter and the like. Now everyone thinks that gamergate was a neonazi movement to throw women and blacks out of the video game industry. They infect EVERY fucking board (and website) with their nonsense, which forces moderation to either be strict to cut down on the nonsense (and also funposters in the crossfire) or let the board slowly morph into another vaguely themed alt-right circle jerk. I really blame the death of imageboards on /pol/. No one minded a hitler joke now and then (especially on /b/, which was their containment board), chans culture was always about having thicker skin, but when every thread is filled with autistic alt-right nonsense 24/7, even when completely irrelevant to the conversation, people look elsewhere for online interaction.


 No.78000>>78031

>>77987

It doesn't really have much to do about white supremacy and more that no one new is coming to 8chan and a lot of people left 8chan because it was unusable trash for the majority of its early years. We can talk about the entire /furry/ spam epidemic, but that's completely missing the other underlining issue of 8chan being DDoSed every other minute. Even yiff.party has better uptime than 8chan in its hey-days, which is impressive because yiff.party must be at a whopping 50% uptime now.

This creates the wombo-combo of the least sustainable business model possible. Dedicated users aren't staying, and new users aren't joining, which means it just slowly bleeds out. How many of us are actually posting on /fur/? Maybe a dozen? Half of those are only interested in shoehorning their absurd hatred for that which will not be named in every fucking thread. Hell, we lost that one guy with the shitty fucking otter/sea dragon fursona, which is probably the primest autism to possibly stick around. What does that make us that remain?

The white supremacy extremists are more just the immediate target as a result of no longer being diluted by fresh blood willing to tell them to shut the fuck up. You can see the opposite on other sites - SomethingAwful is now SJW Den because it doesn't get new blood and doesn't do much to keep older users, so it just happened all the crazy SocJus fucks no longer had to lay low.

As an aside - I know you didn't say it in the first place - I think Trump's election only really brought the ongoing culture war to the forefront of everyone's minds. It's all people can talk about now because one side is very effectively screaming about how Trump is the "consequence" of... whatever it is they're talking about.


 No.78005

>>77981

>Roseanne didn't get fired for her views, she got fired for VOICING them. Big difference. Public figures, of any kind, have to watch their mouths, but at the same time anyone can be racist. Go ahead and tell your family and close friends how much you hate niggers; don't post it on twitter where it can be saved for eternity or say it on national television.

That doesn't mean that it's normal. It's still counter culture if you still have to say it in private. In contrast, the left's views are mainstream as they are presented in outlets like cable television and netflix.There was no right-wing equivalent of Bill Nye talking about anti-immigration (not anti-illegal immigration, but anti-immigration). It would be complete suicide. Sam Hyde was also fired over unconfirmed rumours.

Your theory doesn't make sense if you look at everything.


 No.78031>>78068 >>78073

>>77987

The problem now is that all the /pol/ nonsense has become "board culture", that everyone wants to cling to. They want to continue screaming about niggers and Jews and SJWs because it's a "meme" now, even if it's nonsense. The issue with moderation is also that 99% of the time they adhere with this, too. They won't ban for someone derailing a thread to talk about how they want to fuck lolis, because lolis are a MEME; but God forbid anyone call them out on this --- they'll get banned. Memes have become the sacred "free speech" of fullchan; if something's declared a meme, it becomes law. For example, you can't post threads about Undertale on /v/. They'll get either deleted or put into autosage. Why? Because it's a meme. Because the mods decided that Undertale is "not a game" and the userbase agrees (partially because they are forced to). And just like small children laughing themselves silly when they see toilet humor, they all laugh when it happens. It confirms their belief that Undertale is bad, and they will never be allowed to think any differently. They even refuse to remember how Undertale was enjoyed and discussed at length there, just a couple years ago. Essentially, what happened in this case is that the mod forced his opinion onto the board, and so successfully brainwashed them that they now think it was their own opinion.

Most boards are nothing more than a circlejerk, filled with "popular opinions", and anyone who disagrees is banned. Imageboards should be self-moderating, but now they just ban anyone who dares go even slightly against the grain. They're all TERRIFIED of anything resembling debate or a counterpoint, and so they get like-minded mods to protect them from the danger of seeing dissenting views. You would think people with such strong opinions would be eager and willing to discuss or debate them, but it's not the case. Go on /pol/ and say something liberal? You're banned. Go on /christian/ and say something in support of homosexuality? You're banned. Go on /a/ and say you don't care for all this waifubait anime? Banned. There's a huge difference between personally attacking the members of a board and simply offering a counterpoint, but they all see it as the same. They're such delicate prissy princesses that even the tiniest little part of their belief system is a sacred institution that is not allowed to even be MENTIONED, much less talked about. They just want to cover it up, delete it, ban the poster, and pretend it never existed. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. It's disgusting, and it's severely fucking up any kids unlucky enough to get caught in imageboards these days.

Except for things like spam, there should NEVER BE MODERATION. Mods are supposed to be like a police force that protects a group of protestors from being violently attacked, not a police force that stands by a group of protesters and shoots anyone who shows up with a different sign. We all know how this shit is supposed to work; trolls and shitposters are ignored, and eventually they quit and leave. But if you ban them, they'll just fucking evade it and come back. By overmoderating, they're actually making things WORSE. A ban was supposed to be a last resort for a danger to the board, but it's become little more than a slap on the wrist used on everyone they don't like. As a result, once someone REALLY bad shows up and starts causing chaos (like wannaBui), they have no power to stop them.

>>78000

>we lost that one guy with the shitty fucking otter/sea dragon fursona

He might still be here (though I doubt it because he was a major attentionfag and contributed nothing else than creations of his own vanity), but you wouldn't know it because all the threads about characters/fursonas are all dead. After all Coonfox is still here, from time to time.


 No.78068>>78083

>>78031

OtterDrag gave away his character and is quitting the fandom/chan-life.


 No.78073>>78083

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>>78031

You're over-thinking this. It's true that /v/ doesn't like Undertale, but you're failing to realize that /v/ doesn't like most new games in general. They're only receptive to old games because they don't have the bad business practices of new AAA games (microtransactions, lootboxes, Denuvo/DRM, etc) and the bad trends of indie games (socjus bullshit, minimalistic, pixelshit). Undertale is less severe, but it's already been discussed to death as it's popular. Everyone knows what the story and theme is.

I had no problem discussing anthro games like FEDA, Metamorphic Force, Star Fox, Bloody Roar, or Shining Force because they didn't have the bullshit that newer games have.

/a/ is the opposite. They latch onto new anime because they older ones have been discussed to death. /christian/? They get a lot of troll threads about those topics so you probably got caught. I don't know about /pol/.


 No.78074

>>77867

> back when /ebola/ was a top board.

I miss those times.


 No.78076

>>77937

>We were too fucked up even for halfchan

you never understood from the beginning


 No.78083>>78086 >>78105 >>78133

>>78068

Seriously? He had a fursuit and attended a few cons and everything. What on Earth could have prompted such an action barely a year after he commissioned thousands of dollars of art and physical media of the character??

>>78073

You don't get it. /v/ only likes a very specific list of "approved games", which adhere to their little memes, and discuss them ad nauseum. Everything else is ignored or disallowed. All cartoons and childish things are horrible, but they have Pokemon threads all the goddamn time. All new games are shit, ESPECIALLY multiplayer, except for Splatoon which practically has a revolving thread going. All 4X games (and Dwarf Fortress) are the best because they're memetically "difficult", meaning you're a total genius if you play them. Minecraft is for babies, but Infiniminer is awesome despite being a pos that's barely a game (more of a bare-bones modding api) simply by virture of being that counterculture thing I mentioned. But if you must play it, it must be before the hunger update because everyone agrees hunger ruined Minecraft and it was the best game ever when there were like... ten types of blocks. Doom is THE BEST GAME EVER MADE AND HAS NO FLAWS AND IS COMPLETELY PERFECT AND I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU IF YOU SAY OTHERWISE. Why? Because it's a meme. Don't forget that everything Japan makes is superior to everything the West makes, especially older JRPGs. And everything Bethesda makes is Satan incarnate (except for Fallout New Vegas, because that was only kinda sorta Bethesda).

Full half of the threads are virtue signaling about how they all agree that SJWs are horrible, women are horrible, niggers should get the rope, gays should get the rope, nobody but straight white manly men should be game PCs, and all those games they don't approve of are shit so let's talk about how shit they are.

How can you not see this?


 No.78086

>>78083

because pewter has mark by the balls

>Full half of the threads are virtue signaling about how...

objectively false and you would know if you were on /v/ for a fraction of a second


 No.78105>>78107

>>78083

And the alternatives to /v/ are all heavily moderated circlejerks, where you have to agree with everyone about how great all the new games are, and people who politely raise concerns about shitty business practices or crappy products get shunned or banned. God forbid you use "harsh" language there like "fuck" or "damn".

/v/ is a raging cesspool because it's the only fucking place left where you're allowed to.


 No.78107>>78109

>>78105

>he got b& on /vg/ for being a goon

LOL


 No.78109>>78110

>>78107

>writes a fucking novel bitching about a board

>dismisses disagreement with a /leftypol/ tier strawman

Yeah gee I wonder why you think /v/ is shit. Here's your (you).


 No.78110

>>78109

I think you got the wrong post my friend.

the niggerfaggot who wrote it is one post above mine


 No.78111

thanks for the (You) anyway

sage for I'm a massive faggot, please rape my face


 No.78133>>78229 >>80568

>>78083

>You don't get it. /v/ only likes a very specific list of "approved games", which adhere to their little memes, and discuss them ad nauseum. Everything else is ignored or disallowed.

Like I said, the only "approved games" are games without bad practices like microtransactions, DRM, DLC, socjus shit, always online, and lootboxes. Infiniminer, splatoon, Dwarf Fortress, and Doom don't have microtransactions, paid DLC, socjus shit, and lootboxes. Not really hard to figure out.

Not the end of world if you accept that fact that some people don't like the content you like. They recommended me older titles that I didn't acknowledge before like Joint Operations, Langrisser, and Tactics Ogre.

>Full half of the threads are virtue signaling about how they all agree that SJWs are horrible, women are horrible, niggers should get the rope, gays should get the rope, nobody but straight white manly men should be game PCs, and all those games they don't approve of are shit so let's talk about how shit they are.

I take it that you haven't been to their Friday/weekend Gamenights at all. Had plenty of minorities who could take banter for once.

I think you have a bad experience with the board because you got banned repeatedly for stirring up unnecessary drama or dropping porn dumps. I know that it's inevitable with most furries, but you shouldn't be at the center of the spotlight 24/7. Modern social media makes you feel too important since they reward you in likes, reddit gold, and upvotes, so it's a culture shock when you post in one without those features.


 No.78229>>78232

>>78133

>muh bad practices

>lists things that define every single game made after 2000, when most of the userbase was still in fucking diapers

>if there's any mention of gays in the game it's automatically the SJW agenda trying to ruin the game industry, at the request of the Jews who control the world

It's literally just /pol/ except they only complain about video games. Their attitude is otherwise exactly the same. Except for memes, they don't LIKE much of anything. I wasn't kidding when I said half the content is just complaining or bitching about something that dares to exist.

Also, /v/ is the one board where I've actually NEVER been banned. Not even for filling one of the autosaged Undertale threads with shotagoat porn and shitposts. I just point out garbage where I see it.

Here's a thread with the kind of thing I'm talking about. https://8ch.net/v/res/15224111.html These are the people you're defending.


 No.78232>>78337

>>78229

>muh bad practices

Lootboxes are garbage to place in a $60 game, not going to convince me otherwise.

>lists things that define every single game made after 2000, when most of the userbase was still in fucking diapers

More like past 2014. Halo, HL2, SWAT4, and SSBM didn't have lootboxes.

>if there's any mention of gays in the game it's automatically the SJW agenda trying to ruin the game industry, at the request of the Jews who control the world

They don't like SocJus games because the games have a predictable message and their developers actively try to suppress other games that go against their message. They don't mind games with gay characters like LISA/FE or minorities like Sleeping Dogs/Stranglehold/Rainbow Six 3, they hate games with Mary-Sue's that kill right-wingers because it's lazy and uninspired.

>It's literally just /pol/ except they only complain about video games. Their attitude is otherwise exactly the same. Except for memes, they don't LIKE much of anything. I wasn't kidding when I said half the content is just complaining or bitching about something that dares to exist.

They like old games, just not shitty overmoderated modern barebones games like Overwatch and PUBG.

>Here's a thread with the kind of thing I'm talking about. https://8ch.net/v/res/15224111.html These are the people you're defending.

That's it? Nothing wrong with them claiming that a thread is shit. They're claiming that it's not a good thread because it's small talk. In other words, discussion is guaranteed to end quicker than usual since it's a question relating to a technical issue that can be googled online.

They claimed that it was reddit because you see those types of questions on subreddits. You're very new to those boards


 No.78337

>>78232

I never argued in favor of lootboxes. However, you'll find most of what /v/ bitches about is just when there is any sort of "diversity" in a game, and they get super-triggered by the fact there's a canon fag as a minor character somewhere in the storyline. You can claim they're okay with LISA, but that's bullshit. That only EVER came up as a memetic "alternate" to Undertale, thus it must be better by default (as well as being less popular). Talking about lazy and uninspired. /v/ is nothing but hipsters: "it's popular so it sucks!"

>You must be new here

I was on imageboards while you were still swimming in your daddy's ballsack, kid. If ad hominem is the BEST you can do, I understand why you feel at home with those retards.


 No.80568

>>78133

>Had plenty of minorities who could take banter for once

How are we defining banter? I've only been to /v/ a couple of times but I've never seen anything other than "fuck niggers, gas em all" or variations. Maybe 8+ years ago nigger still meant nigger and not all black people, but it feels like nowadays everyone with skin darker than #ffffff is a nigger and "niggers ruin everything, kill em all"




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