/fur/ - Furry★

They only banned "identifying" as a nazi-fur/alt-fur/furry raider. Art depicting them is still alright, allegedly. Of course it's just poorly worded rules set to ban people they don't like, and keep people they do like.

>>71797

You're not allowed to post art that "promotes hate", e.g. any artwork that portrays right wing ideology in any context other than degrading it or calling it evil.

>>71803

Don't forget, all the while, a literal terrorist organization that's attacked innocent people is perfectly fine.

卐卐卐

>>71804

We could say the same for the other group aswell.

>>71817

I could care less, but, I'm not quite convinced as far as the so-called "alt right". Near as I can tell, there's not much of any organized attacks.

Antifa've been a pretty clear thug group from the start, reminiscent of the Brownshirts, frankly.

Oh boy, another thread blatantly violating the 'no politics' rule in favour of Nazis.

>>71797

They banned those who identified as one offsite, which is bullshit.

>>71822

Where are they supposed to go after you've banned them your platforms, you fucking moron?

>>71793 (OP)

Thanks for killing this site, retards.

We have been way too supportive with the whitelist thing.

/fur/ is /furry/ now. Well, it was fun while it lasted.

>>71826

Shouldn't nazis know best? Kill themselves.

>>71826

Its funny how they whine like pussies once again as if they are the ones deserving tolerance while enforcing intolerance. Yeah right.

Antifa are just as bad as Nazis

Hey I bumped threads to ban this one to page 2. Don't make me do it all over again for the sake of this cancer ridden board. Sage would go into all fields if I could.

>>71862

Yes they threw 6 million people dead with pocket change. I saw it on FOX so it must be true. Wait I can't watch FOX because I'm 90% more German than you and most likely OP. How ironic.

Whatever I'd watch FOX just because it's named like that.

>>71866

>how do i hided thread

>idk lol im gonna bump other random threads to ban this one

>I have no idea what ban means

/leftypol/s best and brightest at work. Must be that commie malnutrition making it hard to brain good.

>>71879

In summary, people like OP want to be cucked by alpha males. They just join a hateful group to be appropriately homophobic about it.

Which is ironic because to me, nazifurs are the gayest people out there.

>>71878

Yeah hating nazis is totally leftypol and not common sense. Oh wait, I'm discussing with Americans.

>>71882

Except cretins like you define anyone to the right of marx as a nazi. Plus actual nazis haven't existed for about 80 years or so.

>>71831

Take your own advice.

>>71832

You're a retard, show proof that they were enforcing intolerance on FA.

>>71882

You morons think that shitposting is equivalent to building gas chambers. You have no common sense whatsoever.

>>71826

Antifa was banned on this board for at least a year for 'no politics' while people continued to post pro-Nazi shit. If you want this board to be /furpol/ that's your right but at least admit it.

>>71889

Cite a pro-nazi thread prior to this.

>>71889

I sincerely want to know what boundaries you are using to define "pro-Nazi shit."

>>71889

Boards made and fucking moderated by me

>>71894

You're a shitty moderator then, admit your bias and don't pretend it's a no politics rule

>>71896

>Oh boy, ok, let's go! I should have said 'alt right shit' instead, no real difference in my eyes but just to head off the autism

Nice try, but those aren't threads.

>>71897

Nah, it has been a no politics rule for a long time. Find the swastika/alt-right/pol content here: >>63759

>>71869

Stop trying to make whites hate themselves for crimes they didn't commit, jew.

If the furry world did exist in our space time continuum, as to say this in this earth, then what species would the german nazis be, and what would be the jews?

>>71869

Yeah, I get it. 6 million jews were gassed in furry fandom through NaziLARP and shitposting according to your twitter feed.

You're a retard.

>>71902

>>71905

The user ( >>71896 ) that you're arguing with is pretty dishonest. He's trying to do it incrementally, and I'm glad that no one is dumb enough to fall for his stupid logic. He's actually trying to claim that a board is nazi-owned because he saw 9 "alt-right" posts (which weren't alt-right) of out 71 THOUSAND total posts. Think about it.

>>71869

Well, they are communists, so, actually, they're worse. Their ideology killed far, far more people, and still is.

>>71896

>literal joke post

>some cunt labeling everyone they don't like as a nazi, and generally trying to fuck them over

>low-energy shitpost

>complaint against shitty democrat nonsense

>the same shitpost as before

>some guy who really hates the POZ lot, understandably given those tossers are literally wanting to spread the deadly disease and will call you bigoted if you don't want to risk infection.

>some guy who likes an artist, who appears to draw police beating terrorist scumbags.

>someone who thinks voting for Trump isn't a bad thing

>Someone citing a fact about a bunch of fucking terrorists.

None of this is "nazi" or even "alt right shit".

You're the type of scumbag fascist fuckup you claim to hate, supporting a group who beats political dissidents in the street claiming anyone right of Stalin is a "nazi".

This is why the left is losing. You've made everyone your enemy.

>>71916

Could just be an appreciation for the style, or on the other hand it could be more erotic due to its taboo nature or because of the implicated power difference (a lot of people get off on power fantasies). In most cases I would sincerely doubt it to be particularly worthy of attention. I've enjoyed things for the style or irony that I otherwise would not have.

>>71918

But see, that's the point, If I had a kink for let's say... To role play and dress up like I was a preist while fucking nuns I wouldn't put the setting in a mosque or synagogue...

>>71966

It's... not a commission...

The filename is short for "nazi communism bullshit (web version)"...

>>71966

There's nothig wrong with swastikas. Finland openly uses it on their airforce.

Also the Nazis would have easily caused the death toll communism has caused if they weren't stopped.

>>71966

idealism.png

>>71966

The reason communism isn't considered bad is because none of the hundred million that dies were jews, and it was in fact jews behind it in the first place.

>>71969

If no one did anything to so much as interfere with the nazis they would have killed all of 0 people because all they were actually doing is mass deporting jews back to israel and forcing them to do some actual work along the way.

>>71973

The artist who drew that, i forget his name, is a Sargoy tier "anti-SJW", they've never cared about facts.

>>71969

We're not talking about the hypothetical, we're talking about what happened. Communism killed more than Nazism.

>>71973

Communism had been tried in more than just the USSR. China also comes up, as well as plenty of other smaller Nations.

No idea if it adds up enough, but, I wouldn't be surprised

>>71983

It's a sweeping generalized body count, much like how religion has killed 99% of the population over the course of human history.

The only reason it warrants any sort of meting is because people continue to tote the 6 gigajillion jews count as a way to decry Nazism, which then makes it pretty hypocritical to deny the contribution of other political systems towards people dying.

After all, if Venezuela isn't real socialism, then surely we can say Hitler wasn't real National Socialism.. whoops!

>>71985

>The only reason it warrants any sort of meting is because people continue to tote the 6 gigajillion jews count as a way to decry Nazism, which then makes it pretty hypocritical to deny the contribution of other political systems towards people dying.

The reason the Holocaust is used as a point against Nazism is that Hitler's agenda from day one was to exterminate Jews, making it a core pillar of the ideology and two, that the 6 millions counted are intentional deaths alone.

Even the most drastic failure of Socialism, the famine in China, was an unintentional outcome of a mismanaged drought that barely touched less than 2% of their population.

>>71983

There were plenty of intentional killings under communism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#Great_Purge_(Yezhovshchina)

>>71986

Negligence and ignorance doesn't really forgive it. There are core flaws in socialistic design that causes it to inevitably fall apart, especially when it comes to the authoritarian flavor which is the only way you could come to a point of a socialistic outcome anyway. Shockingly, people don't want to just give up their money.

>>71983

>Gulags, cullings, executions, and of course the holodomor weren't intentional

Hang yourself.

Besides, even if we assume that's true, communism is still a net negative far worse than Nazism ever was.

>>71986

The core pillar of the communist ideology is to abolish law and order, which is why there were plenty of killings under the ideology. That's where the term, "unperson" originated from.

>>71989

Mass killings aren't necessarily a bad thing. They prevent future births and the suffering and death that come with that. And more food are resources go towards those who aren't killed, so it's really a net increase in wellbeing.

What in the christ did your board do you my post?

>>71991

Sure, Thanos, that's totally reasonable. After all, when your failed state can't sustain it's people because of your autistic policies actively throwing those who produce into the gulags, it's completely justified to massacre others to balance things out, rather than try to repair the idiocy you set forth.

>>71993

>BLUH BLUH COMMUNISM DIDN'T DO NOTHIN

Seriously, kill yourself. You're the type of shithead that results in the absolute worst most deadly horrors of mankind. You're no better than the Nazis, who claimed similar shit to what you're spouting.

>>71804

>Richard Spencer

>innocent

>>71907

watch yourself, Trump is Jewish, he'll be passing laws against anti-semitism very soon.

>>71997

>Implying Richard Spencer is the only one antifa have attacked

But he hasn't done anything to warrant physical assault, in any case. Frankly, if what he says warrants that, then the Communists definitely need to be taken out. They're advocating a far worse ideology when it comes to the rights and liberties of others.

>>71981

>group was around for only 6-10 years, killed 6 million

No wonder they killed less, don't pretend the body couldn't wouldn't have kept rising if they'd stuck around, you fucking dishonest shit.

>>71993

How many examples does it take to see that communism eventually falls apart at the seams? Just curious

>>71894

are you former Lulz namefag/right wing nut/pedophile Sergalicious, by any chance? That would explain a lot and you need to shut the fuck up.

>>71999

>merely wanting to exterminate anyone not white isn't enough to warrant hating him

go fuck yourself. He dropped faster than that whiny no-talent faggot Glenn Danzig did. White supremacist fuckers are weak.

>>72003

Hate him all you want. I hate Communists, myself.

But, I understand they still have rights.

>>71993

>Executing insurgents and traitors is the same thing as the death camps

Not at all. Do you know China's debacle with Tibet?

>That term was coined by Orwell, a socialist, are you retarded?

It was a term coined by Orwell used to describe a practice in the soviet union where they erased the history of those they killed.

>>71997

Did he gas Jews through hosting superchats on his podcasts?

>>72004

Your argument was literally "THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED, IT WAS JUST A JEWISH LIE, IT WAS GREAT IN THE CAMPS".

>>72002

Go back to lulz.net

>>72003

He never said nor acted on it. You're a numbskull.

>>72008

That's why it's still standing up today, right? Oh wait.

>>72008

It's absurdist to use the argument that it wasn't true socialism. We see our own economy struggling, do you want to blame pure capitalism? Because we're not a fully capitalist society. Do you blame democracy for the faults of our political system? Because we have elements of a republic as well.

My real question is, did you ever stop to consider why capitalist reforms were introduced in your supposed flourishing system? By the same margin, why do you think the US eventually stopped flourishing after our mid-war and post-war boom leading into our recent recession?

>>72011

The difference is the capitalistic struggles currently active Here and Now are much much more minor compared to the massacre starvation's and executions as well as the authoritarian and brutal dictatorship of the Soviet Union and other communistic nations

>>72006

>Do you know China's debacle with Tibet?

Not terribly read up on China, we weren't talking about China either, care to expound?

>Did he gas Jews through hosting superchats on his podcasts?

Are you going to ignore the fact that one of his supporters murdered a woman with a fucking car?

>>72007

I can show you a break down if you want.

http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/11/27/holodomor-victims-death-toll-stalin-famine-ukraine-estimates/

>>72013

>Are you going to ignore the fact that one of his supporters murdered a woman with a fucking car?

Oh my god please this is the worst possible rhetoric. Self-proclaimed followers of Christ do such horrible things, so we should nail Him to the cross, right? After all, no use attributing the actions to the actor.

>>72010

Did you even read the post?

>>72011

>It's absurdist to use the argument that it wasn't true socialism.

Good fucking thing I didn't then, huh?

>Soviet Union flourishes under socialism, introduces capitalist reforms and withers

After Stalin's death Khrushchevites put forth a motion to put an end to the five year plans and to institute literal profit mandates into Soviet industries by industry, crippling the greatest strengths of socialist economy, planning an distribution, this lead to the slow death of the Soviet Union, although it managed to pioneer space travel, the personal computer, the cell phone and to surpass the U.S in literacy, citizen health and life expectancy before it went out.

>did you ever stop to consider why capitalist reforms were introduced in your supposed flourishing system?

Khrushchevites were actively trying to emulate capitalist nations to enrich themselves.

>>72014

>Implying I wouldn't nail the kike to a cross regardless.

Religion is a tool of the bourgeois class, burn it and its practitioners with it.

>>72013

>Are you going to ignore the fact that one of his supporters murdered a woman with a fucking car?

Are you going to ignore the countless terroristic acts done in the name of communism?

>>72018

Please name one in the last five years.

>>72021

I weep daily for comrade trashcan

>>71993

Holy shit the commie version if a holocaust denialist.

>>72019

Kim Jong-nam murder

>>72047

>A bunch of disgusting wild beasts taken and bred for obedience and subservience

Sounds accurate for Germans, if that's what you mean.

>>72065

What, like the antifa cucks? Nah.

I just don't like the Germans. Bunch of cuckold mongrels.

>>72013

>Are you going to ignore the fact that one of his supporters murdered a woman with a fucking car?

Prove that Fields was associated with Spencer and that Spencer instructed him to hit people with car despite being arrested earlier.

>>72091

They can't, but the only proof that's necessary is that someone, somewhere inside that rally was pro-Nazi which means everyone that doesn't immediately disclaim it is a Nazi.

Take note that this tactic doesn't work on their own beliefs. It's the literal embodiment of judging others by their actions but yourself by your intent.

>>71966

He's got a point. Nazis killed all the Hitlers, but Soviets killed all the Nazis.

Both sides are bad, so vote National Socialist!

>>72122

He never said that. He said that you're in no position to call out the atrocities of Nazism when you side with communism.

>>72123

Oh, so it's just a tu quoque fallacy?

А у вас негров линчуют

you brainlets are hilarious

>>72124

If you're opposed to murderous ideologies to the point where you want them banned from websites, be consistent with it.

>>72124

It's not a "tu quote". It's a "You're both genocidal monsters who're advocating an ideology responsible for the absolute worst atrocities of humankind".

>>72265

Why do you tankies claim that it's a hoax? No one benefits from it. If anything, the holocaust would make a better case for a hoax as it gave political power to Jews, restricted potential political dissenters (nazis), gave billions in aid to Israel, and gave them the territory of Israel in the first place.

What would people gain from criticizing the USSR at this time?

>>72267

>Why do you tankies claim that it's a hoax? No one benefits from it.

>Nobody benefits from telling the truth

End yourself

>Tankie

Hey jackass, 'tankie' is a term for people who defend Stalin's invasion of Hungary, it's not synonymous with people who like the USSR.

>What would people gain from criticizing the USSR at this time?

Because the capitalists use 'muh communizmz killed gorillions' as an excuse to oppress workers and take away the concessions they themselves gave to the workers in order to prevent rioting during the labour reforms of the 19th century. And still is used an excuse, for example, not to switch to a single-payer healthcare system because it would harm their profits. "OH, you want free healthcare? You know who else had free healthcare! The USSR, and they killed bajillions and gulags and sheeeeit, you're not a filthy pinko are you? Of course you're not, you're an AMERICAN! So continue to pay our overpriced bullshit, by the way, my business need mo' money fo dem bailouts..."

>>72268

>Source: wikipedia

You're not even trying.

>why does communism always collapse and almost always collapse under its own weight?

Except it didn't? American intervention always fucks it up. See also: Vietnam; US backed Pol Pot.

>>72269

>Except it didn't fail?

<Its Americas fault it failed!

this is your argument

>>72269

>Because the capitalists use 'muh communizmz killed gorillions' as an excuse to oppress workers and take away the concessions they themselves gave to the workers in order to prevent rioting during the labour reforms of the 19th century. And still is used an excuse, for example, not to switch to a single-payer healthcare system because it would harm their profits. "OH, you want free healthcare? You know who else had free healthcare! The USSR, and they killed bajillions and gulags and sheeeeit, you're not a filthy pinko are you? Of course you're not, you're an AMERICAN! So continue to pay our overpriced bullshit, by the way, my business need mo' money fo dem bailouts..."

You aren't deplatformed nor prosecuted for denying the atrocities of communism like you could with the holocaust. There's not much that any entity can lose or gain with your beliefs.

>>72271

whatever you say, society

>>72276

yes but you will always be casted into that defined group unwillingly

>>72279

so if I like ancient japanese culture that makes me a samurai?

>>72281

everyone will call you a weeb or whatever yeah thats how society works

>>72301

>carl marx as a dog is the first thing I see on that page

Closed tab immediately.

>>72301

>>72309

Hows come commiefurs are ok but nazifurs are banned immediately. :/

>>72329

This. It's hypocritical.

>>72015

>It was duh Khrushchevites fault

>Defending Stalin

>ever

>When he sent tanks into Yugoslavia that was perfectly justified for him to do, they fucking deserved it, now let me tell you about Iran for a second and why if you don't defend the DPRK you're an imperialist- [Tankie intensifies]

>>72329

As they defend it now and push for it, they don't realize they'll be staring down the barrel of their own regime in the future.

>>71966

I don't think any of Roarey's political rants are commissions. He thinks IB needs to be his soapbox (and gets REALLY ANGRY when anyone says an art site might not be the best place for that stuff.)

>>72361

>>>/leftypol/

>>72364

The typical reaction when some alt right is confronted with facts.

>>72361

Germany does fuck over pretty much everything, doesn't it?

Karl Marx was a German, as well.

All of the worst ideologies and movements come from Germans.

>>72373

I like how the singular republican jew in the third picture has the hugest fucking nose, so you know that shit is T O T A L L Y trustworthy

>>72373

>Jews aren't white

>The omission of Fox news

>Falling for jews rule the world meme

>>/pol/

>>72385

Jews are israeli specifically, which means they're closer to middle eastern than the typical eurocauc that is referred to as "white."

What's it matter if Fox news is omitted? It's still pretty crazy that a significant minority group controls such a massive portion of media. (In reality I'm pretty sure Fox news actually isn't much different but they're pretty much the only station to dare host anything other than neolib views 24/7)

Jews don't rule the world, it just so happens that specifically an absurdly misrepresented sum of the 0.1% who control 90% of the money in the world are Jewish and particularly built their empire off of Holocaust memes. Blacks just wish they were as effective at playing the victim card as those Jews.

>>72385

The typical reaction when some lefty is confronted with facts.

>>72370

>>72401

let's all collectively read these two posts on loop forever and always amen

>>72372

Karl Marx was a jew from a long history tree of family rabbis as sourced here: >>72373

>>72406

That's basically politics in a nutshell

>>72408

But far more importantly, he was a kraut.

>>72418

>Jew

>German

Pick one, faggot.

>>72443

It's Germany. They might as well be one and the same.

>>72444

Except they aren't.

>>72444

>muh horseshoe theory

>>72460

It's not horseshoe theory. Germans are a disease. We need a final solution to the German problem.

>>72499

This.

Though, I think people need to realize, the Israeli jew and the American jew are quite a bit different.

Israeli jews aren't that religious, a lot of the time, but are near fanatically devoted to their nation. They do not care about foreign interests.

American jews, they practice for more social reasons, tend to hang out with eachother, but don't really care that much about Israel. Which is why they're happy to defend Palestine, and condemn Trump's putting the embasy in Jerusalem.

They've got a dangerous culture in that they do not have loyalty to anyone, really. Not to America, in any case. They don't think of themselves as Americans.

Problems there are, of course, cultural, not racial.

>>72493

This.

Most of Germany aren't full of "germans" but shitskins and need a purge.

>>72503

>not racial

Those schizo and deformity

genes sure would do better

being erased. Wouldn't you

agree?

>>72507

You don't have an American flag to hide behind on this board, jew.

>>72521

If anyone needs to be erased, it's faggots who jam the enter key at random.

>>72373

If you go far enough back in family trees, literally everyone has Jewish ancestry. Also nigger ancestry. It's unavoidable unless your family hails from some isolated island or jungle tribe that never contacted outside civilization before you were born. This graph of Marx goes back thirteen generations and identifies like fifteen Jews. You know how many ancestors one has in thirteen generations? Over 8000 inb4 Vegeta. And this helpful inforgraphic shows that 0.17% of them were Rabbis, well SHIT that's some PROOF RIGHT THERE!

>>72524

I'm sorry you're too autistic to follow basic formatting.

Anyway; We'd be better off erasing Germans.

>Antifa is a terrorist group because the man they hate says they are

Fascism is when you get the power to label those you don't like and

expect everyone to go along.

>Trump supporters, who have actually been killing people, are patriots

The number of them arrested for violent crimes is worse than Antifa

>anti-vaxxers, which Trump is a part of, are certainly not terrorists in the least because they only have beliefs

Say that when this bullshit movement of deliberate ignorance gets millions killed because an otherwise preventable illness spreads like mad all because faggots like Ben Garrison refuse to believe scientific fact and go by their feelings instead

Even Jenny McCarthy eventually admitted she'd been 100% wrong to go along with them, proving she's not completely retarded.

>>72543

>Fascism is when you get the power to label those you don't like and expect everyone to go along.

Like how the definition for racism got redefined, and there's now this huge push against "white privilege," tons of white guilt, etc. etc..? If you're following this logic to define fascism, surely you must see the relative lack of it in America where you're free to proclaim bullshit like Antifa?

BTW your greentexting is a little dumb. At exactly what point does it become legitimate to label a group as terrorist? In most cases, the group's target is the one that will feel terrorized... Surely it must be fascist for us to consider ISIS as a terrorist group when they're proclaiming pretty loudly and clearly that they want to murder us all and also take actions that support this behavior.

Which brings me to the next point..

>The number of them arrested for violent crimes is worse than Antifa

Which means pretty clearly you're not outright or unfairly arrested for being part of Antifa, thereby suggesting that there is no fascist dictatorship keeping you down?

>anti-vaxxers

what

>>72543

Antifa is a terrorist group because they've used political terror as a tactic, assaulted innocent people, and generally ran around acting like terrorists.

>Fascism is when you get the power to label those you don't like and expect everyone to go along

So literally what Antifa does, labeling anyone they don't like as a "nazi", and okaying terror tactics against them?

>>72543

By the way I hope you know that Trump is hardly representative of America's beliefs. It wasn't a failure of democracy that Trump got elected - the failure was our system brought us to a choice between Clinton and Trump. Instead of protesting and whining about Russia's alleged involvement in our political process, maybe you should turn your sights on the greedy Democrat witch who, despite having been the target of a propagandized hate machine (dare I say it - deservingly so) decided that she alone was worthy of carrying the Democrat banner. Shocking, then, that she lost - not to mention her outright refusal to campaign in certain locations that Trump especially campaigned and paid lip service to, leading to just barely enough votes to squeeze out the electorals, but yeah you know Clinton's loss is definitely a Russian conspiracy and not at all founded on anything practical.

>>72543

>The number of them arrested for violent crimes is worse than Antifa

I assume you mean Trump supporters?

Yeah, you are correct, in the large group of people known as "trump supporters" some have committed crime.

However, thanks to the black vote, the Democrat voter base is actually worse.

Whopse.

Anyway; there's a difference between political terror groups, and individual criminality.

We don't say "ISIS are better than black people", because it turns out ISIS doesn't get arrested for as many crimes.

>>72532

>autism

Not an argument. Jews have been rejected from over a hundred worlds, for crimes so heinous they deserve to be hunted down. Not seeing the same thing for whites.

>>72555

I'm definitely seeing the same thing for krauts.

>>71793 (OP)

I just want to go on record as saying fucking the alt right, far right and right wing in general, I hate you all. That said I hate the shit libtards like the ones now running FA are doing more and wish the best of luck to anyone who's art got fucked. Banning all that shit would bee fine if they did not, in the same virtual breath, basically say Antifa dindu nuffin.

Either all political censorship or none. Fuck that and fuck FA.

>>72622

>alt right, far right and right wing in general

It's hard to take this seriously because I don't know who exactly you consider to be part of this. Is it just literally anyone you disagree with, or is there a very specific hot button topic that right wing typically takes a stance you don't like?

Personally, fuck big corporate money in politics, tbqh.

>>72637

He thinks the alt-right is actually a thing so he's clearly a leftist, thus "right" means literally what you described.

>>72562

Like what? Defending their fellow whites from degeneracy in a world war?

speaking of FA banning content, why is this user still allowed to have cub porn stories up with reports of the content ignored?

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/supersonic250

This thead was not meant to be about jews, germans or antifa, faggots.

Keep the /pol/ shit to /pol/ and post art.

>>72680

When will you get over the fact that people will talk about stuff you personally don't care about? It's really easy to ignore shit you don't like - I do it all the time when I've ignored your countless whinging about trying to police what we talk about aside from this time.

How many times do I have to say this? Antifa are emotional thinkers, they don't think, they feel, any attempt to convince them to see reason is lost from the beginning. Their feelings are their reality, and you can't use logic to disprove feelings.

The best way to combat them is to ignore them, do not respond to them, do not entertain their "arguments", don't even acknowledge their existence. If you encounter them in real life, do not give in to your desire to confront them, all this will accomplish is to brand you as a nazi, and possibly also get you murdered (like Víctor Láinez, the innocent man they lynched in Spain last year).

>>72683

Or, rather, it sounds like they're people who you'd need to show a good time. It's not an honest way of convincing someone, but if someone's really an emotional thinker then it's the way of convincing them: Frame a better way for them as something that makes them feel good.

>>72550

>A bunch of niggers getting arrested for smoking weed and stealing sneakers is worse than a smaller group of murderers and rapists

Sure thing, bro.

>>72702

That's kind of my point, though

>>72752

About that convert. According to Atomwaffen, it was a rogue member that tried to kill them because they banned him from their group. Read this link for more info:

https://archive.fo/OjB46#selection-951.228-963.470

>>72752

>500 people is genocide

>your entire ideology falls apart because of a faulty belief you don't actually hold

Truly the left cannot meme.

>>72736

How come Asians aren't on those tables?

>>72761

Typically asians are added to whites for these sorts of things.

>>72757

This is all down to parenting.

Black people do not have a culture which values parenting in the slightest.

Asians, jews, and other races do value family.

It isn't a surefire way to get you out of poverty, but, not having both parents with an interest in their children is a surefire way to stay in poverty, I'd say.

>>72763

I said somewhere in that big post, I think we're encouraging the opposite of what they need to improve. Instead of encouraging a stable family with only enough children they can support, we practically reward them for producing more babies through increased welfare without addressing the root cause. This combined with the untimely placed idea that they deserve reparations (unlike, you know, any other group that has been oppressed at any point) leads to.. well.. this.

>>72764

Ah, must've skimmed over that part.

But, yeah, welfare at this point seems purpose-built to keep black people down in all honesty.

It doesn't help that cities by large abandon their districts entirely.

>>72763

It's not really a good excuse since there are criminals who come from good families too. I think the issue is that people reward the black community frequently for bad behavior.

I got beaten up by mine frequently for inane reasons, but I would have been a gangsta ghetto baby if they didn't put me in my place.

Why do Nazi furs want to usher in a world order that would see them at the top of the list for extermination?

I mean I'm all for you sad sacks being done away with, but the cognitive dissonance is strong.

>>72828

Because they don't identify as actual Nazis, retard. Antifa accuses them of being Nazis.

>>72836

This.

Antifa is the definition of "No Fun Allowed".

>>72766

While this is certainly the case, you will find there is more from shit families than there are from good families.

>socially awkward homosexual basement dwellers with an extreme fetish for Nazi Hugo Boss leather jackets and BDSM domination with anthro German Shepherd body pillows that jerk off while seig heiling and think the aesthetics of the Waffen and Freikorp troopers are "super cool" and roleplay like Dungeons and Dragons wizards dressing up for Friday's game night

>The Furry Fandom from 2005-2010:

LOL, these guys are fucking hilarious, I can't breathe, I need to post pictures of these people in You Laugh You Lose threads on /b/.

>The Furry Fandom from 2010-2018

CLEARLY THESE PEOPLE ARE VERY SERIOUS AND ARE ORGANIZING A REBELLION AGAINST THE REPUBLIC IN ORDER TO FULFILL THE FINAL SOLUTION AND LAST WISHES OF ADOLF AND JOSEPH GOEBBELS, WE NEED TO MURDER THESE PEOPLE IRL IN THE MOST VIOLENT WAY IMAGINABLE AND PULL OUT THEIR GUTS WITH RIFLE BAYONETS POL POT STYLE

thanks guys, you really made everything a whole lot better, keep it up, proud of you

>>72859

>Certainly this cultural shift was an unforeseen consequence of social media leading to the collapse of piracy and the flooding of people into hobbies and spaces they don't belong.

I've noticed this myself. People don't lurk to determine community culture anymore. Rather than moving on and deciding that it isn't for them, they just dictate the culture, break several rules, and screech that the administration is shit.

There are several low quality posts on u18 where people frequently post the wrong threads in the wrong sections.

Social media has made people too narcissistic and lazy. Especially the Antifa types who hop from one "racist community" to another, solving NONE of the issues that they were complaining about at all.

>>72858

I wanna play an RPG campaign about being furry German soldiers uwu

>>72877

Except that they're still not dangerous in the slightest, certainly not any more than the people who're wanting to ban them from every event, and take away their basic rights.

>>72878

Some day in the future when a shooting inevitably happens at a furry convention, what group do you reckon the shooter is going to be a member of?

>>72877

You didn't mature at all through your fear of harmless Nazi fetishists, you became immature. You're the equivalent of a manchild who became afraid of reptilians in their closet.

>>72881

There will be no shooting. You just use your imagination to justify your dumb fear.

>>72881

Also, if history serves, expelling/ostracizing those people doesn't work in deterring those shooting.

>>72877

If you really think these far-left goons are "mature" then I'm not sure what to tell you. As someone on the left myself I've never seen more immaturity, hate, sexism, racism and just general awfulness in all my years as I have from these people. It's disgusting. They are, genuinely, insane. Not "mature."

>>72885

>All they ever do is glorify violence and the worst part is they wear it as a badge of honor.

So? The left does the same with Nelson Mandela, Nat Turner, Mao Zedong, Josef Stalin, and Che Guevara by selling positive t-shirts, movies, and products dedicated to their image. You have no moral ground whatsoever.

>There's that paradox about how you can't have statistics about events that were prevented from ever occurring. Gun control laws might prevent hundreds of shootings every year, but an odd one manages to slip through. Expelling the troublemakers will certainly have a better effect than keeping them around.

Like it did with Nikolas Cruz, right? Thanks for admitting that your entire worldview is all about pulling shit out of your ass. It makes sense that you ideals are a falsehood made from fear.

>>72884

They never grew up. Notice how the far-left wants communities to have stricter moderation than child-friendly communities like Club Penguin and Neopets.

>>72884

While I admit there's immaturity on both sides, it's clear that there's far more immaturity on the right. The right like to brag how the 'left can't meme', but all their precious memes consist of immature jokes and cartoon frogs.

>>72893

The reason moderation has to be strict is because right-wing loudmouths outnumber us on the net and it's hard to keep you out.

>>72877

Not just immaturity from the far left, HATE. Hate and racism and sexism like I've not seen from the right or even the alt-right. Just MASSIVE amounts of it from people who will talk about genocide out of one side of their mouth while proclaiming themselves to be actual super heroes genuinely fighting nazis on the other. As someone who's only ever been a registered Democrat, I'm sick and fucking tired of it. The right (and alt-right) being stupid is no excuse or justification for it.

>>72898

>While I admit there's immaturity on both sides, it's clear that there's far more immaturity on the right. The right like to brag how the 'left can't meme', but all their precious memes consist of immature jokes and cartoon frogs.

We joke about mspaint frogs, whereas you unironicly think that a fourth Reich would erect from Nazi fetishism. Leftists also coined "safespace" and "hugbox".

What makes you immature is that you're unable to think from a pragmatic perspective. You let your imagination run wild from your closeminded perspective.

>The reason moderation has to be strict is because right-wing loudmouths outnumber us on the net and it's hard to keep you out.

You know what other environment has a policy against "loudmouths outnumbering them"? A daycare. The majority of you manchildren belong in one as you can't cope with reality.

>>72898

>While I admit there's immaturity on both sides, it's clear that there's far more immaturity on the right. The right like to brag how the 'left can't meme', but all their precious memes consist of immature jokes and cartoon frogs.

Oh please. You want to claim maturity after being angered at the government for not being your rich foster parent that gives you a monthly allowance and house? That's what socialists and communists are.

>>72898

>The right like to brag how the 'left can't meme',

Confirmed leftist butthurt over no one liking his memes.

>>72881

Most likely it'll be yet another insane fellow, as there's not anything really tying shooters together like that.

I doubt there'd be a shooting to begin with, but, this whole "ban people" look isn't going to help that, either.

What group do you think is going to inevitably ban me from furry conventions on account of my politics?

>>72885

>all they ever do is glorify violence

>This coming from the side who says it is perfectly fine to attack people in the street, actively calls for a revolution, and loves to run around breaking things

>>72898

The reason "right wing loudmouths" outnumber you is that you label everyone to the right of Stalin as "right wing".

As it happens, the left's decided to completely sign away concepts of liberty, free speech, and equality under the law to the right. The reason you think you're outnumbered is not because there's an army of right wingers, but because you decided to throw the values once held by the left to the right wing.

>>72836

No matter how hard you mince semantics, either way no group they claim to be a part of would put up with their "degeneracy". It's is ONLY in a modern liberal world that furries aren't gassed along with the gays and gypsies. That's the part these people don't understand; they way to roll the world back to feudalism, no realizing they'd be the serfs instead of thew lords.

>>72914

>the side who says it is perfectly fine to attack people in the street, actively calls for a revolution, and loves to run around breaking things

That would be the second amendment nuts.

You want to know the difference between left-wing crazies and right-wing crazies? The former want to lynch Trump because he's a retard and makes poor decisions; the latter wanted to lynch Obama for being a black man. Even at their WORST, leftists will only do violence on people for things they do, never for the things they are and cannot control. In the meantime, conservatives want to genocide all blacks because a small group of them commit more crimes than white people do.

>>72917

Careful, anon, your bias is showing.

>>72917

>That would be the second amendment nuts.

No, retard.

The 2nd Ammendment guys are all about defense.

They will defend their rights. They will defend themselves from attackers.

They do not go out in the streets and, for instance, punch communists in the face.

They do not start riots and burn down an immigrant's limo.

>Even at their WORST, leftists will only do violence on people for things they do, never for the things they are and cannot control.

Someone's not been paying very much attention to the far-left groups like SJWs and BLM. BLM, of whom is flat out a racial hate group, advocating for the death of both police and white people.

The left's always been big on "muh reprecussions" for shit done hundreds of years ago by nobody alive. IE, things we cannot control, merely related to who we are.

>conservatives want to genocide all blacks

Also untrue. But it's not surprising you're just lying out your ass, again.

The bulk of conservatives these days are, at worst, religious types wanting to oppose marriage, and more commonly I find, big-time American value supports of shit like free speech, liberty, equality under the law, and general meritocratic values.

Meanwhile, the left's been opposing this shit, and seems to actively want us to go further and further into a regime more reminiscent of the Nazi Reich than anything I've seen any right winger propose.

See the UK as a prime example, where it's perfectly fine to arrest a political dissident and have a court order a media blackout on all reporting on said case.

>>72752

Good god, that third picture. I hope you don't want anyone to take your points seriously, with that pathetic mess you posted.

>>72917

>No matter how hard you mince semantics, either way no group they claim to be a part of would put up with their "degeneracy". It's is ONLY in a modern liberal world that furries aren't gassed along with the gays and gypsies. That's the part these people don't understand; they way to roll the world back to feudalism, no realizing they'd be the serfs instead of thew lords.

Nope, mainly because hedonism was always prevalent. From fascist Rome to the monarchies of the Russian Empire. Communists overthrew Russian Tsars because of their degeneracy. There were degenerate Popes in the past like Pope Sixtus IV. What's interesting to note is that the elite practiced that bad behavior.

>You want to know the difference between left-wing crazies and right-wing crazies? The former want to lynch Trump because he's a retard and makes poor decisions; the latter wanted to lynch Obama for being a black man. Even at their WORST, leftists will only do violence on people for things they do, never for the things they are and cannot control. In the meantime, conservatives want to genocide all blacks because a small group of them commit more crimes than white people do.

<Violence is okay if I like the motive!

That's dumb logic as killing is killing. Not to mention that it's outright false. You do realize that Nelson Mandela had a terrorist organization that killed civilians unrelated to the regime of the South African government?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_we_Sizwe

Not only did that dumb leftist killed more blacks than whites, he managed to turn South Africa into a RAPE CAPITAL where black and white people are miserable from racial tension.

You're a larger threat than right-wingers because you're an incompetent group incapable of self-reflection. You form your decisions from hypothetical scenarios that have no basis in reality whatsoever, which is why you're dumb enough to think that a Fourth Reich would erect from Nazi fetishists.

>>72922

That's because they're narcissists who lack humility. They think that they came from Harry Potter novel, destined to take out Donald Drumpf/Lord Voldermort. I think it's why they resent Donald Trump so much. He's arrogant, but he cements the reality that they aren't special snowflakes. I love it when he puts them in their place.

>>71793 (OP)

I love that image of the nazi german shepherd sucking off the SS doberman. It used to be my tf2 spray, it would always get lots of attention on normie servers.

>>72922

Reddit isn't as left-leaning as imageboard users like to believe. LateStageCapitalism is the subreddit everyone makes fun of. There was a post on r/funny recently making fun of feminism and I wrote a comment about how I found it offensive that they're making fun of feminism like that and everyone downvoted me.

>>72928

I see nothing wrong. It's a cute fursuit. Would hug.

>>72995

For one example, women are treated very poorly in the gaming world. Misogyny is so easy when you're an anonymous young male on voicechat in a game. It's issues like these that only third-wave feminism can address. Imagine feminism like a big redwood tree. The trunk represents first wave feminism, the branches represent the second wave, and the leaves represent the third wave. Are parts are necessary for the tree to survive. You get the idea.

>>72999

>treated

I said rights.

If we want to address how people are treated, then why are we limiting ourselves to females? Why do we continue to turn a blind eye to the many plights that males suffer, like, for example, their significantly higher rates of suicide?

By the way, I love your immediate jump to gaming, as if it's substantial at all. In the gaming world, anything will be used as leverage to toxically assault someone, partly because as gamers continue to get vilified by the world at large they never learn proper sportsmanship. Sorry that having breasts is a particular low hanging fruit for them, but let's not take it seriously when they insult other males by wishing cancer upon them and other things, because it's men and they're supposed to be strong and have no emotions right?

And we certainly don't need some zombified post-civil-rights movement to fix this, especially when they vilify males and their "toxic masculinity." Current feminism is a joke.

>>73003

Fine. Then all the "rights" stuff got sorted out in 1st and 2nd feminism. The third wave addresses how females are treated. Still valid.

> then why are we limiting ourselves to females?

Because that's what the scope of feminism is about. Addressing how other groups are treated is the scope of other movements like mens' rights movements.

>>72974

Reddit isn't far left, but it's very left leaning. You can see this just off of the moderation of major subreddits.

>>72999

That's not a right, and frankly, in my experience, it's not a real problem. CoD kiddies might say some shit, sure, but they're also shittalking each other, calling them faggots and saying they fucked your mom.

Elsewhere, I find whenever people find out someone is a woman, they get extra treatment of protection, politeness, and defense from anyone poking at them.

Which feminism does not appear to care about.

>>73004

The goals third wave feminism seems to place forward seem to be anti liberty, and look to get equality of outcome rather than opportunity.

Personally, I find that abhorrent. And so, as I do with all collectivism, I oppose feminists of the third wave.

>>72999

>>73004

A lot of leftists fail to realize that trash talk occurs all the time in gaming. It's expected. Play badly in any ranked match in CSGO and R6 Siege to see insults fly. Cheese hadoukens in fighting games like SFV to get angry pms. Ram people in Gran Turismo Sport or Forza 7 to get them raging on mic.

It's just that leftists want special treatment in gaming. They want to fling shit at others without facing the consequence of receiving that shit back. Gaming is antithetical to an arrogant narcissist because it's purely meritocratic. I know what we're talking about women, but I know some women who don't fall for that victimhood feminist bullshit.

>>73022

To be fair, I agree that it's at least somewhat a problem. Trash talk is fine, but only when it's encouraging. Outright insulting and telling people to die is stupid, and it's primarily caused by gamers being vilified as a basement-dwelling activity so understandably people who play games never really build the sportsmanship that's kind of important.

>>73024

You're right and I don't disagree that it's negative. It's inevitable though.

>>72951

oh no

my sides

why

>>73024

Personally, I find it to be rare outside of competitive things, and examples of extreme stupidity.

Even then, it's only the extremely competitive scene. Never ran in to it on my low level of CSGO, or R6 Seige.

Personally, I say let them behave as they will. I hate the cancer that they're trying to pull on Seige, for instance, where they want to ban people for toxicity.

The mute button exists. Use it.

>>73026

>Literally saved the nation from the Communists

>Not good

>>73030

Yeah ask everyone outside of the Southeast about how she saved the nation. We've been nothing but a decaying husk since the 80s.

>>72937

Yes, hedonism has always been present: straight, vanilla hedonism. You dress up like a dog and get fucked up the butt, and you're getting lynched. It's simple.

>Killing is killing

Yeah, okay, you're just a retard then.

>>72877

>The reason the furry fandom treated "nazifurs" as lulzy autistic larpers before the furry triggered invasion of ~2012 is because they weren't mature enough to recognize the threat

...the threat of the semen stains on their pawpad arm bands from their multi-racial gay sex orgies?

There is no ""maturity shift""", there is an active replacement and overpowerment shift. There's a reason 2gryphon was all but publicly burned like a Salem Witch because "HIS FANDOM HAS LEFT HIM BEHIND, THIS IS A NEW FANDUM"; The average age of a furry is fucking 25 years old, the fandom has artists that have been churning shit out since the 1990s. They're still here, they just shut the fuck up because they figured out everyone is losing their fucking minds with hammer and sickles photoshopped onto transgender panda yiff art and unironic gay nazi swastika rainbow dash spattered all over every imageboard, forum, and social media site becuase there's a fucking culture war being waged in a NICHE OBSCURE INTERNET FANDOM of all places, because there is nowhere you can escape to, nowhere to hide, and I'm getting fucking exhausted of this "move over SILLY BOIS XD" rhetoric that's been echoed and started a few years ago and it's genuinely making me believe we are approaching something fucked like "Nu-Furry" or we are already there;

Someone post those screencaps of that one furry who thought "coon" as in "racoon" was a racist slur against black people and the fandom needed to get away from it's "old ways" and understand that even though "coon" has been used for over a decade in the fandom as slang for racoons, this was no excuse, and wanted everyone to instead use some NewSpeak shit like "trash bandit". fucking hell, welcome to the Brave New Furry World, enjoy your cancer.

>>72974

Don't tell me that commercial garbage all over him and his faggot bike aren't just flatout embarrassing. He bought that shirt just for the message, probably not even thinking about the words above it, MS Word printed document on his bike, with some cruddy rug all over him that's gonna leave him a pale burnt waste. You some kind of moron that gets attracted by all of that bugchasing shit?

>>73036

>Yes, hedonism has always been present: straight, vanilla hedonism. You dress up like a dog and get fucked up the butt, and you're getting lynched. It's simple.

You didn't look up into backgrounds of the figures I've cited. Hint: They did worse than dress up as animals.

>Yeah, okay, you're just a retard then.

Sorry, but I'm not retard who claims that my brand of killing is better. Intention never matters if your end result is bad. Does a kid intending to be a good cook excuse the fact that he burnt the house down?

That's what the left's ideals are in a nutshell. You constantly day dream and refuse to take criticism, up until the point where you cause catastrophic damage over executing them every single time.

Nobody who mixes their politics with furshit should ever be taken seriously enough to hand out bans over it, I don't give a shit how "extreme" their views are.

At the end of the day it's just an autistic fantasy you could easily ignore.

>>72999

>For one example, women are treated very poorly in the gaming world. Misogyny is so easy when you're an anonymous young male on voicechat in a game.

As far as I remember women get special treatment in the way of extra high tolerance for being retarded, players are way more willing to help them and they usually get protected from players mean to them.

>>73044

>Intention never matters

>That's why people who murder on a whim get the same sentence as people who murder after planning

>All killing is the same

>That's why people who kill someone accidentally faces the same sentences as someone who does it intentionally

You're on the wrong side of both logic and the law. Care to give up before you make even more of an idiot out of yourself?

>>73133

>Intention never matters

If you're intending to kill, then you're intending to kill. Doesn't matter if it's "justified" in your eyes because it's subjective. Bringing up Nelson Mandela again, you do realize that most of his casualties were black civilians who weren't a part of the pro-apartheid regime, right? 6 bombings with 200 causalties isn't any accident if that's what you're trying to imply.

If Nelson Mandela was a white guy like Dylann Roof, you would see his actions for what they are, but you evaluate an action by the name of person committed it. That's just sad.

>That's why people who murder on a whim get the same sentence as people who murder after planning

They get the same sentence as murder is planned. You're thinking of the difference between manslaughter and murder, but manslaughter requires proof that you didn't the intention to kill people.

Drunk drivers get different sentences from serial killers, but that's because the former didn't have an intent to kill people.

>All killing is the same

In the context of political violence, it is. I don't blame you for disregarding it though, your entire argument would fall apart if it did.

>That's why people who kill someone accidentally faces the same sentences as someone who does it intentionally

Again, those people don't have the intention of killing in the first place.

>You're on the wrong side of both logic and the law. Care to give up before you make even more of an idiot out of yourself?

I'm objectively right sweetheart. You knew damn well that I wasn't talking about Stacy plowing into deer after getting wasted.

the fandom has gone from being the property of silicon valley dickheads to california trust fund kids more widely

what're you gonna do

>>73138

It doesn't matter what I think. It does matter what the law thinks. You can't call if "subjective" when it's literally reality in the country you live in. You are subject to those laws whether you like it or not, kid. All your non-sequitors about Mandela do not change this fact. Your stubborn ignorance about it changes nothing; all it does is prove you're a proud American who happily ignores fact. Do you even know the difference between first and third degree murder? Of course not.

We we're never discussing "political violence" because no furry has ever been a political figure. We were discussing violence committed by wanna-be Nazis on innocent people, versus that committed by people on those wanna-be Nazis. Anything else is irrelevant.

>>73152

>we weren't talking about political violence, we were talking about political violence

You're a retard, mate.

No furry nazi's done anything, near as I can tell, but they've been threatened by asshole communist types who think it's okay to violate other people's rights because they have a different political opinion.

The irony is that the modern day left is actling far more like the nazis, than the supposed nazis. They're straight up taking word for word the page of the brownshirts.

>>73152

>It doesn't matter what I think. It does matter what the law thinks. You can't call if "subjective" when it's literally reality in the country you live in. You are subject to those laws whether you like it or not, kid. All your non-sequitors about Mandela do not change this fact.

You're retarded. The point of me bringing up Nelson Mandela and Che Guevara was to highlight the existence of left-wing terrorism that not only killed innocents, but didn't improve the state of the country in the long term.

>Your stubborn ignorance about it changes nothing; all it does is prove you're a proud American who happily ignores fact. Do you even know the difference between first and third degree murder? Of course not.

The point is that good intention doesn't matter if you have bad results from it. Should be common sense, but it's apparently difficult for a daft leftist like you. You wouldn't be singing the same tune if an incompetent street surgeon accidentally severed an artery in an attempt to save your life.

>We we're never discussing "political violence" because no furry has ever been a political figure. We were discussing violence committed by wanna-be Nazis on innocent people, versus that committed by people on those wanna-be Nazis. Anything else is irrelevant.

Yeah, and that violence is bad. Considering that they don't target wanna-be nazis at all like Nelson Mandela did.

>>73165

Are you seriously using those stats as a means of asserting Cuba's dominance? Like, really? Highlighting that Cuba has an improved neonatal mortality rate of a whole 0.001%????????

But lets ignore that you are 100% more likely to die giving birth as a child in Cuba as compared to US.

Statistics are quickly becoming a sham because, despite how sacred and truthful mathematics is supposed to be, statistics becomes so muddled by the inclusion of language to twist the meaning and introduce bias. See: This very post where I deactivate the value of your offered numbers by changing the way I refer to the comparison.

>>73165

You're stupid and ignorant of Cuba's integration of Capitalist ideas ever since Raul Castro was put into power.

>>72666

because several of the mods are pedophiles

I'm not joking

>>73174

this is what happens when burgers talk about foreign politics.

The murder took place just before Catalonia's elections, after pro-independence Catalans had been beaten up by the Spanish police. Wearing the colours of the Spanish flag isn't the gaudy-but-apolitical "I like my country" act it is in America, it's also a statement of a political position in favour of the integrity of Spain over Regional independence movements. Given he was Catalan, got into an argument, and was attacked by an anarchist (What is it anarchists are always talking about again? Catalonia 1936?) that explanation would have some merit.

Oh and look at this

>It also emerged that the far-right party Falange said Catalonia native Mr Lainez was a supporter of its movement, according to a report in The Local. ( https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/catalonia-man-killed-spain-flag-colours-braces-beaten-victor-lainez-pro-independence-protesters-a8112186.html )

So maybe he wasn't even being called a fascist for his clothing, or even a possible integralist stance, but because he was a member of a fascist party.

I'm not saying the attack was warranted, whether he was just an integralist or even if he was a fascist, but the way this story is generally read is stupid.

>>73178

I was suspicious as soon as I saw his mourners wearing biker jackets but couldn't say much not speaking spanish

>>73179

Not surprised that you think it's justified for people to commit homicide over it.

>>73181

Are you guys really gonna try take the moral high ground here considering the far right's infinitely higher murder rate?

>>73164

Why the fuck are you still bringing up political figures when we're talking about FURRIES, on a motherfucking board about FURRIES!?!

This isn't a discussion about communism or leftism, despite your insistence at virtue-signaling how much you hate them every chance you get. It's about asshole furries AND NOTHING ELSE!!

>>73187

>no mom, it was state capitalism with chinese characteristics, it wasn't left wing at all

To actually be fair though, I would say it's pretty even, it just has different scales of measurement, different areas where one side is worse than the other, etc. since for one example, the far right is usually associated with tribal organized prison gang violence and in general more prominent on a localized level in regards to that type of violence. The left wing flip of that would be prone to mangerial corruption, like how every Far Left rise or governmental attempt at control usually leads the way for smugglers and "the second government" popping up, such as the South American left-populist movements that usually get co-opted by drug traffickers and "look the other way", and pay off who they need to in order to move and operate human trafficking, and also acculumate wealth under the guise of the state seizing property and assets for the (elite) people. Far left and Far Right violence usually take different forms, with Far Right being blunt and direct (what do you mean we can't stomp X ethnicity into the pavement) whilst the Far Left while it CAN use direct force, they prefer hierarchy/social structure shifts and are more oriented towards destruction of abstractions (what do you mean the chromosome section of biology books can't be burned)

This is assuming they're both operating dysfunctionally in their worst states; what is actually supposed to occur is the left augments society into new ideas of operation, while the right is supposed to be a regulator and upkeeps in organization and implementation of new ideas so that any changes that are made to society aren't so abrupt or major that it causes foundational imbalance. This may be too much of a nuanced approach to left right paradigm so we may need to go back to calling each other PolPot and hitler.

>>73193

I brought them up to state that they were equally capable of committing violence as the right. The difference is that the the left defends their violence despite them targeting innocents unrelated to the folks that they opposed.

That said. It doesn't matter if there are asshole furries, they will always exist regardless if you kick out a group or not. You should learn to deal with them by ignoring them. If you can't, then you're a histrionic narcissist who can't cope with real world.

>>73187

No, Charles Manson killed less people than Nelson Mandela. And there were less causalities under Nazism in comparison to communism.

Not to mention that you don't have a license to kill those whom you disagree with. In a way, you right in pointing out that it's a false equivalence as the left is worse.

>>73187

The far right doesn't have a higher murder rate.

Unless you're including crimes of standard shit, which, guess what, the dems are worse thanks to the black populace.

>>73213

Well "white" people include hispanics which also have disproportionately higher crimes, so it's not THAT far apart in the statistics.

Man, who would have thought numbers could be so subjective?

>>73214

Hispanics aren't counted as "white", but, leaving that aside, we're talking 'left' vs 'right', not white vs everyone else, and hispanics vote democrat, again.

>>73215

Non-white hispanic is a thing in census, and many reports include "white hispanics" in with the group of white people, which raises the average crime rate for white people. I believe even the FBI did this once with some report of theirs.

It's just smudging numbers to make reality seem different.

>>73216

Like I said, it's ultimately irrelevant, as I wasn't talking about "white" people to begin with. But, regardless, general consensus is that you're a racist if you're shit to hispanics, but not if you're shit to whites.

>>73226

I'd take the time to put my child out of its misery, because nothing good will come out of letting it be raised by someone whose identity revolves around a+b where (a) is their insulated political views completely out of touch of reality and (b) is their fetish/escape from real life.

SJWs don't have a better social reputation, you're just (as constantly occurs in this thread) applying the fallacy of /your/ group's intentions vs. the enemy group's actions. There are plenty of absolutely batshit insane SJWs, and then there's the rest of the people who agree piecemeal with certain reasonable things but don't revolve their entire life and identity around that belief. Surprisingly enough, if you consider that there are totally normal people who agree with certain pieces of what these (completely non-threatening) nazifurs spout but don't revolve their lives/fetish/escapism around it, you'll find them to be quite reputable as well.

>>73226

>nazi furry shows my kid Hitler speeches

>sjw furry babysits my kid

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oTP4okl0gUk

Tough choice

>>73226

A nazifur, honestly.

>>73232

Since I'm specifically making a comparison between nazifurs and swjfurs, it's not a false dilemma. It's just a dilemma.

>>73230

You linked me to a video that I agree with. So...what's your point?

>>73238

>timestamp 4:57

>Child asks her neon pink haired mother a question:

>"...did you ever WANT me to be..non binary?.."

This is very healthy behavior that isn't going to lead to adolescent identity issues at all, great job supporting child abuse anon.

here, have another video, i'm sure you'll love this one even more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0vPqxSVaG4

>>73226

Nazifur. Social reputation doesn't matter because it's also socially acceptable for people think it's good to consume drugs and obtain STDs. Discipline from following the correct ideals matter.

Do I also want people who want to punch others for "nazi ideals" too? Fuck no. I would rather keep a patient group that listens.

>>73238

You would be a shitty parent because you aren't teaching your kid the correct ideals. You would be the type to feed them several bags of candy instead of several plates of nutritious veggies. You don't care about their long term well-being, just their temporary pleasure. You don't confuse them by telling them that they can do everything they want, you give them beneficial limits that would enable them to branch off over time.

You think that it's a hard question when it's a simple one to figure out. Discipline always trumps "social reputation" and fake smiles.

>>73247

>...and what was the 'neon pink haired mother's answer? "I just wanted you to be who you are without having to choose." Nothing polarizing about this answer. You're looking for controversy where there is none.

If you don't see any controversy with that answer, then you're not a good parent. Let me rephrase it. Do you see any math or language teacher give you that advice when you first start out learning? Stating that you can write words like "ljdjfslkjaldkkjlgj" in a sentence or perform operations "23++++3323++3"? Not at all, they just give a specific set of guidelines that you eventually branch off from.

Parenting should be the same. Giving them several genders just confuses them because they don't have a good reference to learn from.

>The ideals that in your opinion are the correct ones to hold, you mean to say.

The ones that are formed by experience as opposed to social media posts.

>Now you're just making stuff up (straw man) in order to insult me. I grow my own vegetables, and I would feel my children the same.

I'm not insulting you. I'm just stating the fact that SJWs prioritizes pleasure over discipline, well-being and truth. They get offended when you state that there are two genders because it doesn't feel good/inclusive to NB people. They get angered when a homicidal MS13 is called a group of animals because it's doesn't feel good to them. They get angered when illegal immigrant criminals get separated from their children.

>>73247

You're missing a core part of the rest of it, plus some context:

>because when I grew up, there was just boy and girl.

Are you seriously suggesting that a child in Kindergarten should be having deep introspective dialogues about what arbitrary irrelevant words are used to "label" them? The entire problem with how the mother raised them roots in how she felt about being """"forced"""" into the box of 'tomboy,' where she very clearly internalized her feelings and never got over the idea that these labels that other people irrelevant to her defined who she was.

It sounds like an innocent response, but the whole dialogue is so clearly loaded and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if it were scripted. We don't need to have a dialogue about gender in this way. It's needlessly complicating something and framing personality in a wrong way. The truth is you're either a boy or you're a girl, and there exists 'boy things' and 'girl things' but these aren't necessarily gender-exclusive, just gender-preferential. It's that fucking easy. Pronouns aren't some profound fucking distillation of one's whole being - it's a quick and easy to refer to a specific person.

>>73242

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0vPqxSVaG4

Jesus Christ

>>73248

I don't understand your confusing analogy, but it might not be necessary if you understood what it is I'm supporting. This goes for >>73249 too, but we're not telling kindergarten aged kids about the gender spectrum and then asking them to choose one before they've even had the life experience to know where they'll fall. We're telling them about the gender spectrum so they're aware of the uncontroversial fact that there are in fact some people (the minority) who don't identify as strictly male or female. This information isn't given to confuse them. It's to make them less confused when they eventually encounter a non-binary person.

>The ones that are formed by experience as opposed to social media posts.

Social media posts are a form of human communication and as such are also a source of experience to the reader who learns from them. As you are doing right now.

>>73249

>The truth is you're either a boy or you're a girl, and there exists 'boy things' and 'girl things'

There are people who don't see it this way anon, and you aren't going to change their minds when they choose to define themselves as a non-binary gender. The path of least resistance is to accept that you're not going to change their minds about it, and teach their point of view to others so that they're aware of it.

>>73250

> the mother saying "now you don't need a boy" is a little bit of a muddled mixed up message anon.

I think kids can take a joke.

>let's be friends squirrel anon, I yield a truce on my shitposts, I can't speak for others though.

We're just having a discussion, no truce is necessary. You mentioned the squirrel...are you this guy? >>70642

>>73260

>we're not telling kindergarten aged kids

Earlier in the video, pink-haired lady encourages her one child who was gender non-binary. That child was talking about how whatever it fucking identifies as took great offense to being labeled by language, which is absurd and ridiculous.

>The path of least resistance is to accept that you're not going to change their minds

I sincerely disagree. I hate this dialogue because it's so stupid, but I care a lot about my language, okay? The English language is already extremely bloated and difficult to use, but it has a lot of discrete benefits with how eloquently things can be stated with our large variety of words. But there's also a time where we have to accept practicality - a SIGNIFICANT portion of our communication is through speaking tone and body language. Take for example the phrase, "Oh, really?" Just your tone of voice and body language can make that phrase mean three completely different things - sarcasm, aggression, or curiosity.

PRONOUNS ARE NOT MEANT TO DISTILL A BRIEF HISTORY OF A PERSON'S SUBJECTIVE PREFERENCES.

It's meant to very simply and quickly bring to light a specific GRAMMATICAL SUBJECT OR OBJECT for clarity. When people bitch about not being referred to by the correct pronoun when said gender is actually 10000% irrelevant to the conversation, then they are muddling the conversation in a self-centered fashion.

If we want to have a lengthy dialogue about what gender actually means, then I'm game for it; however, this bitchfest over pronouns is not in any way constructive and it's not about some sort of "heteronormative conspiracy" and "bioessentialist rhetoric" and other similar buzzphrases I get thrown out because god forbid people not be psychic about what specific arbitrary words someone likes to be referred to by.

This is possibly the biggest thing that I am passionate about when it comes to politics, because this is a very strong contender for bringing about the collapse of our society and introducing ACTUAL fascism - people being afraid to speak lest they outrage someone for using the wrong words despite their tone of voice, body language, and intentions all being completely opposite of some microaggression towards an individual. The same problem pops up with racism - we constantly have less and less words we're allowed to use to refer to black people because god forbid that we refer to a specific race of people who are particularly relative to the subject because of their race. Right now the politically correct term is PERSON OF COLOUR, but what's the next phrase when people decide that's some stupid dogwhistle for LE SOUTHERN STRATEGY RACISTS?? Here, let me throw out my own personal suggestion: physical humanoid creation whose external fleshy light refraction status particularly belies a greater degree of light absorption than other physical humanoid creations (not racist I promise) (don't beat me up).

Language evolves, but this is just a fucking stupid dialogue. It's especially stupid the way these people are trying to drag it into other languages too! I love the people that refer to themselves as LATINX because they can't wrap their brains around why Spanish as a language has gender rules. After all, we can't objectify objects by assigning them genders! Calling houses female is racist, so let's all collectively refer to them as ex casx! Sorry, you can't tell if I'm talking about cases or houses? Don't care!

>>73262

And just to clear up any possible confusion, when I say:

>whatever it fucking identifies as

I don't actually mean this in a way to suggest that I don't care - I would love to refer to it by the contents inside its pants, but unfortunately because of how trite and confusing this bullshit about pronouns is, the easiest way for me to identify the subject is by even more objectifying terms like "that child" and "it." I'm sure that'll help its self-esteem to hear, right?

>>73260

Nah thats not me, I just called you squirrel anon because you posted the squirrel chick in the black sweater and glasses.

>>73262

Your passion is clear, but it seems like we can't put the shit back in the horse at this point. Seems it's a change we have to live with. I agree with everything you wrote (it needlessly complicates things) but are you proposing a way to reverse it? Because if there isn't one, we may as well learn the new ways pronouns are used and use them accordingly.

I read an interesting article about genderless pronouns by Richard Stallman today.

https://stallman.org/articles/genderless-pronouns.html

He proposes to "Use the elegant gender-neutral pronouns "person", "per" and "pers". They fit into English smoothly. They are easy to remember, since they come from "person", and the last two resemble "her" and "hers". They are natural to use, since they work just like "she", "her" and "hers". "Pers" ends in a voiced consonant, just like "hers"."

E.g., "It is that person's hat. It belongs to per. It is pers."

>>73260

>I don't understand your confusing analogy, but it might not be necessary if you understood what it is I'm supporting. This goes for >>73249 too, but we're not telling kindergarten aged kids about the gender spectrum and then asking them to choose one before they've even had the life experience to know where they'll fall. We're telling them about the gender spectrum so they're aware of the uncontroversial fact that there are in fact some people (the minority) who don't identify as strictly male or female. This information isn't given to confuse them. It's to make them less confused when they eventually encounter a non-binary person.

There are only two genders. Anyone who claims that there's more is a lie.

>Social media posts are a form of human communication and as such are also a source of experience to the reader who learns from them. As you are doing right now

Wrong, a 300 character tweet doesn't have the same depth as a hour long conservation given by grandparents.

>>73266

I'm sorry, but they're just adding an arbitrary social construct to appease narcissists who want to feel extra special. Don't fix what isn't broken.

>>73200

>Nazis attempted total genocide of millions of people, but that's not as bad as communism which accidentally triggered a famine killing millions more, therefore Nazis are okay

Do you ever sit back and listen to yourself? For even one second...? The mental gymnastics you losers go through to justify Nazis is simply absurd. Exactly like saying that everything Trump does is okay, because Hillary is worse. So if someone murders one of your loved ones, that's okay as someone ELSE might have raped and murdered them?

>>73216

Since the birth of the USA, they've been folding in more and more ethnic groups into the banner of "white", just so they can continue to pretend that whites have the majority. At this point it's only like second- and third-generation immigrant Mexicans who have at least one white parent, but that will change over time as the demographics do. I guarantee it. Hispanic immigrants have a lot more kids than European immigrants, purely as a cultural norm; big Mexican families is a thing, big German families are not. So to maintain their false majority, whites will add in Mexicans eventually.

At this point, I fail to see why. The ONLY ethnic group that is still considered never white even if they're 87.5% European, is blacks. Everyone else, if they look white(ish) they ARE white. Is maintaining American racism really that important to these people??

>>73250

What's wrong with taking a measure that may very well prevent a girl from running out to get laid, possibly getting knocked up in high school? It's not going to somehow turn this girl into a butch lesbian; nothing can. These kinds of mindsets are still stuck back in the 80's, that homosexuals are created by bad parenting. The thing is, teenagers tend to do the exact opposite of what their parents want, and will follow the norms of peers and the media FAR more than whatever their parents teach them. You simply CANNOT brainwash or control a child without also imprisoning them and preventing them from being exposed to any alternate points of view. Which only happens in strawman fantasies, or very small towns with high levels of religious cultism.

>>73279

>Do you not understand the Nazis killed millions of people through their actions and you're justifying them by trying to play down the accountability of their regime and making them seem not as bad as they were?

>Now let me downplay to you how communism "'accidentally"" killed those people, it was just a ""famine"" that they ""accidentally"" triggered, it was an ""ACCIDENT"" and since they have no agency whatsoever the series of events and legalistic policies of the regime are not actionable as being responsible for anything; also The Killing Fields impaling babies on bayonets wasn't on purpose and EVEN IF IT WAS on purpose it doesn't count because it was state capitalism and not real communism even though Pol Pot at the end of his life basically said "holy shit I think I fucked up" but it doesn't matter because it still doesn't count anyway, and the Soviet Union invading Afghanistan wasn't imperialistic at all, because the hammer and sickle people did it, so it doesn't count as colonialism when my team does it, since it's "liberation" and not manifest destiny.

>Do you losers listen to the mental gymnastics you have to go through to justify your genocidal regime? Anyone that would do something like that. . . do they even listen to themselves?

Holy shit anon.

>>73283

>>73294

Holodomor. Also remember, Nazis weren't gonna stop killing ethnics. Hitler could've easily amassed such numbers if he won.

>>73279

>Do you ever sit back and listen to yourself? For even one second...? The mental gymnastics you losers go through to justify Nazis is simply absurd. Exactly like saying that everything Trump does is okay, because Hillary is worse. So if someone murders one of your loved ones, that's okay as someone ELSE might have raped and murdered them?

There are no mental gymnastics nor justification in comparing raw data. I can see how comparing numbers would be complex to a retarded leftist with cognitive dissonance though.

Your example is stupid because I'm not using a hypothetical or "what if?" to disprove your retardation. I'm stating what HAPPENED and what happened is that communists killed more than Nazis and that Nelson Mandela killed more than Charles Mason. You are in no position call out atrocities since you are objectively worse.

>What's wrong with taking a measure that may very well prevent a girl from running out to get laid, possibly getting knocked up in high school?

What? Do you even know what you're responding to?

>>73296

COULD, but Hitler didn't. The USSR could have continued it's evil if it didn't fall in the 90s too.

Quit deflecting the atrocity of the left with dumb hypothetical scenarios. Look at what happened in reality for once.

>>73283

Did you think they wanted to kill their own citizens by starving them to death, in the same way that the Nazis marched Jews and fags and Gypsies to the gas chambers and firing squads? You can't be that stupid. Really.

Also, will you fucking stop bringing up communism when we're talking about Nazis? You didn't even bother trying to argue against my Trump analogy because it's fucking iron fact. You're incapable of facing goddamn reality other than "B-but THIS OTHER THING!!!!"

>>73314

I'm also stating what happened: the Nazis did evil things. End of argument. Therefore Nazis are bad. Do you have something to contest this, or are you going to bitch about leftists again?

>>73316

>I'm also stating what happened: the Nazis did evil things. End of argument. Therefore Nazis are bad. Do you have something to contest this, or are you going to bitch about leftists again?

I'm not disagreeing with that, illiterate dumbshit. If you're going enforce a policy against violent ideologies, then you better enforce it against communism too as they killed more than Nazis.

>>73316

>Did you think they wanted to kill their own citizens by starving them to death, in the same way that the Nazis marched Jews and fags and Gypsies to the gas chambers and firing squads? You can't be that stupid. Really.

They did more than intentionally starve people, dumbfuck. Have you not looked into the list here? >>71987

Do you know why countries like Poland rejected it in the first place?

>Also, will you fucking stop bringing up communism when we're talking about Nazis? You didn't even bother trying to argue against my Trump analogy because it's fucking iron fact. You're incapable of facing goddamn reality other than "B-but THIS OTHER THING!!!!"

<H-HOW DARE PEOPLE POINT OUT MY DOUBLE STANDARD BY POINTING OUT THAT COMMUNISM KILLED 80 MILLION MORE THAN NAZISM

Listen idiot, no one is stating that this redeems Nazis or that you should kiss their feet. No ONE fucking saying that you should respect. We clear?

They're stating that if you want to prohibit an ideology for being violent, then you ALSO have to be consistent by prohibiting another violent ideology that killed more people.

If you don't prohibit it, then it shows that you're a hypocrite who doesn't given a flying shit about violent ideologies to begin with. And given the stupid justification that you've posted for it, it's likely true.

>>73266

>Always say "they". This violates the grammar of English so deeply that it feels terribly wrong.

Always judge people who hold this opinion since I've said "they" in the singular naturally since childhood. It's only "confusing" if you substitute it 1:1 with "he/she" rather than naturally wording things for clarity in circumstances where using "he/she/they" the same way would create ambiguity.

"Pers" may look better than "Xe" but it's still trying to get people to learn a new pronoun, rather than alter the use-circumstances of one they've already been using.

I'm not entirely sure whether I should take it into account out of charity for the surprisingly large number of people who have a problem with it, or consciously try to refer to everything with 'they' to fuck with those people.

>>73323

Typically if someone is demanding they be referred to by a different pronoun when either the pronoun/"gender" is entirely irrelevant to the discussion or they obviously don't match the pronoun/"gender" they're demanding, I will go out of my way to refer to them as "it" for pretty much precisely as you say.

I have my opinions on gender dysphoria, which is that it exists but also the solution isn't to fucking "change" your gender. Instead I think the better option would be to stop this awful preaching about gender conformity or whatever, because if you sit down and think about it for a few seconds then accepting genders as social constructs (which is implied by saying someone can fluidly change genders) incidentally also implies strict gender roles, which is dumb. Boys and girls like a variety of things and that's what makes us individuals, and it just so happens that some things are more boyish and others are more girlish.

I remember once trying to watch this Overwatch streamer - guy looked kind of cute and I wanted something to listen to in the background. At some point, someone in twitch chat asks, "I thought streamer was transgender?" and the streamer repeats this and responds, "It's like you were right the first time but then you had to go be an idiot." as if it's a fucking easy task to tell some arbitrary irrelevant thing like someone's proclaimed gender when they look like a regular fucking guy. Boy haircut, boy clothes, definitely boyish face, with the nice defined cheekbones that mostly only men achieve - sorry, I'm a she. Fucker wasn't even trying, and thinks he has the moral high ground when someone is confused?

>>73332

I sincerely hope this is trolling

>>73296

What if both the communists and the nazis are genocidal asshole faggots?

What if we can oppose both horrible authoritarian regimes that stripped the rights of people away and murdered millions?

>>73340

SIlly anon, jews aren't people.

>>73332

I love you anon, even if it's a little a bit under the spectrum.

>>73350

MAJOR NO

>>73318

>I'm not disagreeing with that

Then why the fuck are you here?! If you agree that Nazifurs are bad then that's the end of it. This isn't the place for you to just randomly spout off why you hate communism.

You know why people hate /pol/ so fucking much? Because you use any goddamn excuse to start ranting like retards about communism and leftism and liberals and SJWs. We both agree that Nazis are bad, but you still have to stick your fucking nose in here to bitch and complain about something else.

>>73359

First, nazifurs and actual Nazis are two very different things.

But regardless, you do not seem to understand the issue we have with you.

If you are going to ban one genocidal and violent ideology, you must ban all of the type, else you are a hypocrite.

Likewise, if you say it is okay to attack Nazis because their ideology is a threat, then you must also accept violence against Communists, who's ideology killed far more.

Myself, I am happy to leave both groups alone by virtue of supporting liberty.

But, you do not seem to be suggesting that.