/fur/ - Furry

this fandom is a fucking nightmare and I hope it burns to the ground

That sucks, typical Nazis ruining shit for everyone and just needing their skulls caving in.

>>63976

>pedofaggot commie soyboy talking about bashing in natsoc skulls

Man there really isn't anything more comedic is there.

>BDSM cubs

Literally what? Why?? Can't it fucking EVER be JUST cubs?! It's always gotta be cubs with gore, or cubs with scat/diapers, or cubs with rape, or whatever the fuck else. Maybe if they had fetishes focused on love instead of on abuse, they wouldn't get so much shit for it.

>>63977

>People who are bigoted assholes who want to murder people, and those who want to murder the assholes are equally in the wrong

I come here to laugh at you.

>>63982

Well see the problem is that when antifa retards say nazi what they actually mean is "everyone I disagree with" it's hard to call you guys 'the good guys' when you run around attacking anyone with a red hat with bike locks and 2x4s

>>63976

>tfw we reached a point where Nazism is more offensive than pedophilia now

>>63982

>People who are bigoted assholes who want to murder people, and those who want to murder the assholes are equally in the wrong

Intent and Words != Action

I’d be quite happy to watch the antifa faggots and altfurry faggots kill each other off. What can I do to hasten such an event?

>>63995

This is begging for a crossover fighting game.

>>63998

>I don't even like cub but furries trying to be moral guardians about drawn porn is just laughable, if you can't see the tragic irony in that I don't know what to tell you.

It's okay to be moral guardians when it comes to internet ideologies then? I guess cummies have more social capital.

>>64000

Uh yeah, fetishes aren't as dangerous as genocidal political ideologies. I fail to see how that's a contradiction.

>>63998

There should be Nazi fetish then.

>>63998

>Using the SPLC statistics where they claimed people like Elliot Rodger were alt-right Nazis

Opinion discarded.

>>64001

What, and communism isn't a genocidal political ideology?

>>64008

No, because real communism has never been tried.

t. /leftypol/

>>64004

He was mixed and his victims were white couples. So no, he isn't "alt-right".

>>64001

>implying that child bondage, domination, sadism, and masochism isn't dangerous

lol

>>64004

Where in the Alt Right or Nazi manifesto does it state that you should go out and shoot up a school full of white kids

>>64008

Honestly? No. Most of the shit you were taught in history class was propaganda made by butthurt cappies that had to give more concessions to their workers in order to prevent more strikes & riots due to their poor life quality and working conditions. Years later those very same concessions are starting to be taken away because they're "too much like communismz!!!!" Oh boy, I can't wait to go back to abolishing the minimum wage, reinstating child labour, and deregulating working conditions so people will die of easily-preventable workplace deaths due to not having some fucking functional safety equipment and routine safety protocols in order that their employer may save a couple extra bucks in his next paycheck when he's already being paid 300x more money than his employees.

>>64026

Dat some low-effort trollin’, mah boy.

>>64026 "Communism isn't bad", I find it funny that this statement is always said by people who have never lived in totalitarian regimes under a social justice/egalitarian agenda, never went through hunger and had never even visited an ex-commie country.

If you ain't a commie when you are 20, you don't have a heart, if you are still a commie by when you are 30, you ain't got a brain.

Good.

ABDL is cancer and ageplay is degeneracy among degeneracy, to say nothing of the pedos and rapists.

>>64028

>>64032

How's it feel to be cucked by the CIA?

>>63998

>that pic

Wow, the left still can't meme.

>>64073

>Nonetheless he hated racemixing and Cruz was a white supremacist who killed a dozen white kids, I never said the alt reich wasn't retarded.

He didn't. Otherwise, he wouldn't be doing it himself nor would be be shooting white couples. Cruz is also half jewish.

>cappies in feels > reals shocker

Lol commies. What's funny is that despite claiming that the atrocities of the Soviet Union and Mainland China were propaganda, the majority of you simultaneously accuse Russia of being a propaganda outlet that manipulated the US elections when it comes to your Anti-Trump stance.

>>64008

Doesn't matter whether it is or not, because socialism isn't communism, and literally everything that /pol/ calls communism are actually socialist policies. Communism is where the workers own the means of production; it has nothing to do with welfare or minimum wage or universal healthcare or anything else. Socialism and capitalism are not incompatible; and in fact the capitalist system fares better with more socialism, because socialism has this really bizarre way of not murdering the entire customer base, the way cronyism does.

>>64073

HAHAHA

>Hitler killed like 1000 whites go- fellow white man, he's the real evil dude, please ignore the 12 million white christians that Stalin killed, it wasnt real communism anyway.

I wonder why communists never move into a country where theres communism. Well actually i know the reason but still, beeing mentally retarded does not excuse behaving like a child all the time and denying the obvious. If i was President i would sent all leftys to Venezuela or something let them taste communism themselves, i would make them happy would'nt i? I heard communism tastes like rats and pigeons tough.

>>64115

>communism and socialism aren't the same

umm...sweetie? try reading the manifesto. Your boy Karl used the terms communism and socialism interchangeably. Nice try though :^)

>>64026

Seems to be that schools encourage communism rather than demonise it.

good, all pedos must hang

>>64026

>butthurt ban

Lol retard mod. How about a free train ride to Siberia for you?

>>64028

But it worked, so its high value trolling.

>>64032

shitpost

>>64035

except DPRK isn't left wing at all.

>>64206

>rightwing nationalist shithole that has private property is suddenly leftwing

Just because youre an amerilard and have no grasp on terms doesnt make it leftwing, ok? Stop watching fox news.

>>64260

The fact that you frequently claim that communist countries like Communist China, USSR, and North Korea weren't genuine "communism" should tell you a lot about communists. How can so many people get a single ideal wrong? I have an answer, it's because the ideology fundamentally attracts morally-bankrupt liars who will perform any step to protect their image. It all starts from excusing deplatforming and labeling your opposition as objectively evil. That's why discord kicked out the far-right groups, but not the far-left. That's why they imprisoned Cantwell without bail over false charges that were disproved by video.

Under your ideology, rule breaking is guaranteed as you frequently exonerate lawbreakers who support your cause. In practice, there's no clear sense of objectivity nor consistency within your ideology. Your shtick for the past century is to throw pejoratives, silence your opposition, and force people not to think critically, so it's no surprise that any country and community is guaranteed to be a corrupt cesspit of misery like North Korea. No communist knows when to draw the line because they're taught from that start that have an advantage from being unfair to fair people. That's a fact.

Don't disprove it to me via weasel wording bullshit because I won't be convinced. Disprove it to me by displaying ACTION. If you can't maintain equality on something simple like political speeches, then you can't do it with something complex like government.

>>64323

So you're saying there's absolutely no difference between people who just like animals / have fursonas and want to be around likeminded people, and people like the diaperfurs that got Rainfurrest shut down, or these cub fetishists that are about to get Califur nuked?

Is that really your position?

>>64325

Yep, because believe it or not, they too are people who like animals/have fursonas and want to be around likeminded people. Both "groups" in their entirety encompass a VAST array of strange, weird, morally questionable, and in some places illegal kinks, so yes, there's no difference.

Just because a few outlier trolls/mentally handicapped individuals with no self restraint (rainfurrest) or salty furries who dislike the concept of cubs so much that they'd make fake threats to sabotage an entire con all because of one thing they dislike (califur) ruin it for everyone else doesn't mean they represent the entirety of their respective groups.

>>64328

I suppose where we disagree is that I consider those people (whom I'd call fetishists more than anything) are fringe elements of the fandom as opposed to the majority that, while certainly sexualized, are not that extreme.

Ie: In an average dealer's room, I'll see diaper/cub merch/stuff sure, but it's 1% or less when viewed against everything else.

>>64329

Uhh, where are you getting your estimations? Those damage control articles that try to say furries aren't fetishists? We're all degenerates here, we don't have to lie to ourselves too, a good sum of furries are extreme in their kinks, most are just modest enough to not be flamboyantly open about the sort of wild shit that gets em off.

But I digress, my point still stands,outliers don't speak for the majority.

>>64330

Those estimations are from being in the fandom for almost two decades and being at AC and MFF last year. Super fetish shit like diapers/cubs/hyper BDSM were in the extreme minority. I saw 10x more puppyplay faggots than I did cubs/babyfurs/etc.

>outliers don't speak for the majority

That's the point I'm making, anon; those groups (like the ones who fucked over Rainfurrest and Califur with their degeneracy) are markedly distinct and different from your average furry congoer.

>>64332

That's an extremely small, skewed, and specific window you're basing a sweeping judgement on. Also consider the fact that those cons are heavily regulated and censored to avoid califur-tier drama, so it's not as if the lack of "extreme fetish" related things are the result of said conventions just happening to be populated by "normal/casual furries".

If that's the point you're making then why was your lead in to this topic that people who like cubs in general, and not just some random assholes, are the result of everything going wrong in those scenarios. Especially in Califur's case, since it was people opposing cub stuff that got the con fucked over in the end, and possibly even in rainfurrest's case where, if you look deep into it, it can be argued that a lot of what went wrong (in terms of what got the con blacklisted) there was deliberate sabotage, possibly from someone who wasn't even a diaperfur.

>>64333

I think you missed the

>being in the fandom for almost two decades

part when I said those groups were a tiny part of the fandom. They are, and always will be. And the cons are regulated in terms of what they can sell, but I'm also talking about vanity badges, attire, etc. Just because those tiny groups can't go full retard with their fetishes doesn't mean they hide them completely.

And in the absence of the pseudo-pedos and shit fetishists, the cons wouldn't have these problems, now would they? Not to say the rabble rousers wouldn't find something else to complain about, but it's not as if the absence of those groups are hurting the fandom's reputation.

>>64334

I didn't miss it, my point still stands in that regard, unless you're some omniscient being with detailed records of every instance of everything that went on everywhere you've been.

A lot of things "wouldn't have problems" if we just sliced out certain people or groups, that doesn't mean that's the right choice of action, especially when the only tangible reasoning for doing such is "they're weird and I don't like them".

If your issue is they invite drama, then i'm sorry to inform you that furries in general invite drama, for example I turn your attention to several issues brought about not by cub/specific fetish related people, but furries in general:

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Midwest_FurFest_2014#Chemical_incident

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Rocky_Mountain_Fur_Con#Cancellation

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/FOXmas

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/FurFest_Northwest

If you issue's that it's a reputation thing, then we might as well kill the concept of furry conventions as a whole and stick to obscure online sites. Cause news flash, the reputation of furries isn't/wasn't tarnished by cub fans or the "fetishists" you're referring to, it was tarnished by regular furries "being themselves", and suiters parading up and down streets dressed as animals. Along with the assumed (but also true) lewd acts preformed inside and/or out of said suits, which things like CSI and random news feeds of said parading furries would go on to paint the public perception of furries as "degenerate fetishists".

And those are just con specific, I could fill a page with all the rapes and murders furries as a collective are guilty of.

ITT "hey, look at me! I'm a 'normal' furry."

They have started to ask the community for hotel suggestions. They are doomed.

https://twitter.com/Califur/status/973680809981849600

This was the only furry con I could afford to go to, because I have no travel budget and this was the only one within driving distance of me. Even then I was on the fence about it.

Well it's in california so fuck it