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I want a character I can use for all my self-insert smut commissions.
How do I make one? Then, once I've made one, do I need to get a reference sheet or something so artists don't all draw her differently?
Will people frown on me if I use a human 'fursona' because I'm more interested in anthroxhuman than anthroxanthro stuff?
Where do I draw the line between sparkleshit and boringshit?
▶ No.36082
>will people frown on me if i use a human 'fursona'
Yes, yes they will.
▶ No.36088>>36090 >>36091
Here's a question for you guys:
If I use a Mi'qote (from Final Fantasy 14) as my 'fursona', is that acceptable for the most part or is it not furry enough?
▶ No.36090
>>36081 (OP)
>Will people frown on me if I use a human 'fursona'
That's called a persona you shit.
Unless the character is and looks absolutely nothing like you, then it's an OC or a fursona
>>36088
>or is it not furry enough?
Depends on who you ask.
▶ No.36091>>36320
>>36088
For my part, I think that's a cute concept. A human fucking an anthro while dressed as an anthro, you can work with that and make it adorable.
I think that the vast majority of the furry audience would disapprove, however. Furry porn consumers tend to be... somewhat... single-minded. There's a real attitude that people don't come for humans, they come for anthros. There are some, like me, who like human-on-anthro, so if this is purely for your own consumption then I think this is a cute idea and you should go for it. If this is for other peoples' enjoyment, however, just be prepared. You might get some haters.
▶ No.36092
If it's a human, it's not a fursona; it's just a character. You probably don't need a ref sheet because humans are simple enough, and more to the point every artist is going to draw them differently.
▶ No.36120>>36145
>>36081 (OP)
>will they frown on me
Yes, yes they will. Welcome to the "human-x-anthro" crowd. Life is suffering.
▶ No.36145>>36151
>>36120
How often are you arguing in porn comments for this to be an impression? After all there's all kinds of subcommunities that are frowned upon yet you'll see enough support on these image sharing sites for threads of a variety of fetishes including ones most people find gross/deplorable.
Human x Anthro is pretty tame, I find it casually on the FA home page and it seems to get upvoted fine. I see e621 and similar places get lots of votes on those posts. IDK where this idea that human x anthro is especially hated.
▶ No.36151>>36320
>>36145
Often enough. "Enough support" doesn't mean they aren't 'frowned on'. It's definitely one of the more hostilely treated 'subcommunity' by the large. Most everything else simply gets ignored, but there's a rather large load of folk who vehemently hate anything related to humans.
The difference between human x anthro and some other shitty degenerate fetish like, say, scat or vore or giant or feet, is, people who don't hold the fetish aren't going to find it 'gross' anyway, and they aren't going to have it filtered fairly often.
Essentially, it being 'tame' means that it is more commonly seen and attacked.
Votes in general for furshit doesn't mean much of anything. Everything gets up votes. 'S why I don't take any stock in that sort of deal. I go by what people've actually took the time to write down.
▶ No.36169
>>36081 (OP)
Be boring. Tried to be a special snowflake for years and there was much cringe inbetween.
If you choose a boring one, you won't live a regretful life.
▶ No.36205>>36209 >>36252 >>40687
>>36081 (OP)
>How do I make one?
Pick one and go nuts.
▶ No.36209
>>36205
Step 1: Select species
Step 2: Select fur color/pattern
Step 3: Select clothes
Step 4: Buy embarrassing amounts of fetish porn
▶ No.36252>>36255 >>36274 >>40683
>>36205
I feel like I've already fucked up.
▶ No.36255>>36261
>>36252
Hair dye is shit-tier
▶ No.36261>>36262 >>36274
>>36255
I just made a thing at random.
▶ No.36262>>36263
>>36261
nice bowl-cut, nerd
▶ No.36263>>36281
>>36262
I don't know how to draw a buzz cut, which is the most efficient hair style a man can have.
I also don't know if it would work on a furry.
▶ No.36274>>36276
>>36261
>>36252
This is why the templates were trash. Just give them only the standard default form that you had to modify into the creature you wanted.
Not this gay "FILL IN THE COLORS" garbage.
▶ No.36276>>36279 >>36280
>>36274
I'm getting mixed messages from everyone now.
▶ No.36279>>36282
>>36276
>I'm getting mixed messages from everyone now.
That's the point.
This whole furry thing is littered in vague definitions.
>What makes you count as "being a furry"?
You'll get a million different answers based on whether or not you like the porn, are into anthropomorphic animals, like animals in general, if you "lifestyle" or not, or any combination of those and more.
>What's a fursona?
Maybe you have to identify as the character directly, maybe it can be any character of yours that you want it to be, maybe it doesn't count if it's based on a well known IP because you didn't make it up yourself, or weeb Neko characters don't count, or it's not a fursona if it's feral, maybe monsters that aren't based on any kind of animal no matter how inhuman they may be won't work, it all depends on who you ask.
All you can do is consider everyone's opinions and then decide for yourself how to define things because they sure as hell aren't ever going to get any kind of "official" meaning.
▶ No.36280
>>36276
Basically, the standard template modified to be your own is far superior to having one for cat, lizard, dog, ect.
Because it really helps show the individual character of each fursona.
Otherwise we're going to get a swarm of recolors.
▶ No.36281
>>36263
A buzz is flush with the head, mate.
▶ No.36282
>>36279
Fursona is a play on the word persona. In essence, it is simply your furry character.
To my knowledge, it can be from some IP, or other pre-existing lot, so long as you field it to represent you, as it were.
Best way to think of it is as an avatar in a game, so to speak.
▶ No.36283
>>36081 (OP)
>How do I make one?
i made my sonas when i decided to go wizard after getting a boner from looking at a little girl in a bikini at my local pool.
>Then, once I've made one, do I need to get a reference sheet or something so artists don't all draw her differently?
yes
>Will people frown on me if I use a human 'fursona' because I'm more interested in anthroxhuman than anthroxanthro stuff?
ignore them
>Where do I draw the line between sparkleshit and boringshit?
fuck if i know. i have a monstersona, so a little bit of sparkleshit is to be expected in my case
▶ No.36320
>>36091
>haters
>>36151
>attacked
▶ No.36437>>36442 >>36450
How can I steal an already-existing design and change it just slightly so it's my own?
▶ No.36442>>36443
>>36437
Go on the FArchives and look for an artist that left the fandom 4ever. Take their art, flip it, resize it, and recolor it, so it won't show up in reverse image search. Original artist can't complain without coming back into the fandom and being swarmed with the very furfaggots they tried to escape. If someone accuses you of art theft, claim you drew it first and the artist just copied you without crediting you and when you pointed it out, that's what caused them to ragequit the fandom forever. Remember to bring up how deeply hurt you were by the artists' actions and remind them about all the horrible stuff they did but don't actually go into detail, when people ask what you mean, claim you don't want to speak of it ever again, then belittle them for trying to start up drama.
▶ No.36443>>36446 >>36543 >>36555
>>36442
I stole my character from a cartoon, though.
▶ No.36446
>>36443
>What is the entire sonic/mlp fandom
Slap an extra spike of hair on that shit and color them slightly off hue and call it an OC just like every other unoriginal, effortless ounce of self-insertion those fandoms have created
▶ No.36450
>>36437
It's called recoloring.
Though, you can do even less and win. Quality furshit is not required when it comes to OCs.
▶ No.36504>>36512 >>36551
I made an Arcanine.
Am I destined to be stuck in gay bara porn or can I fuck cute girls once in a while?
▶ No.36512
>>36504
If you go feral you might get the occasional grill into bestiality.
Anthro Arcanines are pretty much doomed to permanent bara status, unless you specifically make him a tub of lard.
Chubby won't be enough, artists will just go the musclegut route instead.
▶ No.36543
>>36443
I stole an OC from Harvest Moon's Karin in 2005. I still draw her and by now people ripped her design off so much, it doesn't even seem anymore like I ripped her off.
▶ No.36551
>>36504
Arcanine is just a species. You can make him any body type you want. Hell, you can make him a femboy and embrace the /ss/.
▶ No.36555
>>36443
You could just find a YCH template and rip that, all you're doing is basically coloring it since the original artist already made the lines for you
▶ No.36951>>37095
>when all you have to do is erase the "YOUR CHARACTER HERE" text and you instantly have a reference sheet you can use
Thanks, whoever drew this.
This placeholder character is honestly hotter than most actual OCs.
▶ No.37026>>37029 >>37095 >>37142 >>37703
Tried to make a fursona and it didn't end well.
▶ No.37029>>37042
>>37026
>Claiming him as my own
>Elliot
>Tits, curvey and femnine
>Him
Yup it's tumblr alright
▶ No.37042
>>37029
Nice reading comprehension dumbass.
▶ No.37095>>37134
>>37026
ok that's hilarious and all but holy fuck do you have some shit taste
>>36951
well, judging from the filename, Anon, iwbitu on FA drew this
▶ No.37142
>>37026
>>37134
>DaQuanvee
>"wathcu finna do?"
>elliotdefender
>i swear to g-d
▶ No.37145>>37160
>>37134
>half of these accounts registered today
had me going for a second there too
▶ No.37157>>37160
>>37134
>People are taking a picture on the Internet this seriously
Jesus Christ, there's accusing someone of copyright infringement and then there's (albeit accidentally?) starting a literal witch-hunt against someone over a fucking character design. Have these people never had to deal with a real-world problem and now they just have sense of perspective?
▶ No.37160
>>37157
It's trolling
>>37145
Most of these accounts are created by the guy who made the image. The artist's journal has even been edited to point this out. The only one that I can tell is legit is Blasphemiedd
▶ No.37343>>37351 >>37532
>find an artist I really love
>does not draw humans
How do I turn my character into a kemono furry?
▶ No.37351>>37353 >>37396
>>37343
>How do I turn my character into a kemono furry?
Shrink it to the size and proportions of a toddler, add cat ears and a tail, and color its skin to the color of fur (but don't bother adding any sort of texture). That's basically all.
▶ No.37353
>>37351
I see, I see.
I feel like you're mocking me but this actually pretty sound advice.
▶ No.37396>>37423
>>37351
Really depends on the kemono, but for the most part, they're the ones who actually add detail to the 'skin' as you put it.
Western furs are literally just flat not even fluff edge most the time. Though, sometimes you get some decent stuff in the lot.
Still, on average, kemono stuff is a little more beast-like. Only issue is they always add hair. Unless it's a lizard, sometimes.
▶ No.37423>>37440
>>37396
I've also noticed a lot of kemonos seem to like guys with kind of muscular builds than here in the West. I don't know if that's a cultural difference or if it's just an element of the manga art style they tend to use. You do get furries who draw muscle-bound characters out here, but on average Western furries seem more drawn to thinner characters with very light muscle tone if any, kind of the generic "thin but not super fit" look.
This is a selection bias of mine, of course, because my exposure to kemono has been light compared to some of the people on this board.
▶ No.37437>>37581 >>37609 >>37613 >>38460
I need your help /fur/. I'm thinking of making a genet fursona, but I'm having trouble coming up with a design that's simple but pops out. I don’t want to make it too simple, or else getting a ref won’t be worth the cost, so I need to come up with enough unique traits. I’ve thought about going with a pastry theme for their fur colors, but I’m having issues making it work with the genet’s spots and ring tail patterns. I’m also up for completely ditching that idea and going for whatever you guys recommend. The only thing I have set in stone is their height and some white coloring on their left arm, but I might ditch that.
▶ No.37440
>>37423
Sounds accurate to me. In the west, there's a lot of focus on more 'feminine' men, whereas the japs seem to like bara type stuff.
▶ No.37532
>>37343
>How do I turn my character into a kemono furry?
Follow the example you posted?
▶ No.37581
▶ No.37609>>37613
>>37437
Just keep the spots and the tail stripes, and maybe the facial markings. Basically the first picture. It's distinctive enough. Keep in mind, though, that you'll be frequently accused of having a sparkledog hybrid leopard/raccoon fursona because nobody knows what a genet is. Not even firefox spellcheck, apparently!
Oh, and don't add any extra shit. None of that "pastry theme" fucking nonsense or having a random patch of color on some part of their body. It looks like shit. Every single time someone makes a fursona that's a generic wolf except with a green cock or a single green toe it looks like shit. NEVER do that. The genet's natural color patterns are a sufficient amount of "unique traits".
▶ No.37613>>37640 >>37687 >>37701
>>37437
>>37609
Bullshit. Go from the drab yellow fur tone to something more cake-inspired, like a vanilla-cake-yellow or a strawberry-cake-pink (if it's a girl).
It will help you stand out without adding any unnecessary details.
▶ No.37640
>>37613
>Having characters colored pink or yellow
Get the fuck out.
▶ No.37687>>37696 >>37701 >>37890
>>37613
Agreeing with this anon.
There's a difference between sticking to a theme with a character's appearance and making a sparkledog.
The pastry theme isn't a bad idea at all, but even if the idea isn't inherently bad it doesn't mean it can't be executed poorly.
Might want to try making something like that subtle, the fur pattern being a good idea.
Don't forget clothing either, it's just as important as the character itself.
Try to avoid anything too overt like having a picture of a pastry on the shirt or something.
I think that you'd ideally want to make it so that someone seeing the character might suddenly start thinking of danishes or strudel or something.
Maybe they attribute it to the character, maybe they don't, but being able to implant the idea of pastries into someone's head through the colors and shapes displayed by your character without ever actually indicating the treats directly is theming done right.
▶ No.37696>>37774
>>37687
Why does a fursona need to have a theme? It's an OC, not a marketing tool.
▶ No.37701>>37702
>>37687
>>37613
It really depends on what you're putting it up for.
If your character is from some shitty children's cartoon, effectively, sure, it's totally fine to have a 'pastry' theme.
If you want your character to be more realistic, or you're aiming for a more beastial look, I'd say it is best to stick with the standard coloration.
A creature like that is already rare enough to be original. Any extra originality you want for the guy can be achieved by mild accessories. Hats are always an easy choice, though things like outfits, gear, and so on work as well.
▶ No.37702>>37704
>>37701
This anon brings up a point that I really want to stress: If you want your OC to be unique or at least stand out, a good option is to simply choose a species that not a lot of people use. There are a staggering number of visually interesting animals out there that people simply don't use for 'sonas which would make your character pop without having to do the sparkledog thing.
I myself chose a gray fox, which is a breed of fox that not a lot of average citizens are aware of. There are a great deal of lizard species that people don't know about; honestly I like scalies, but I feel like most of them just say "lizard" and have it done with; I'd love to see a bearded dragon character. If you like mammals more, under-appreciated species include platypi, pangolins, and sugar gliders. Or hell just go the really nerdy route and make your OC a dinosaur. Fuck it, why not? This is the Internet, after all.
▶ No.37703
>>37026
>take femboi
<make him a girl
this is unnatural
▶ No.37704>>37705
>>37702
This, quite a fair bit.
Same deal for birds. Hell ,you can even get that sparkly bright color route, if you do that. Plenty of flashy-colored birds, what still look quite nice.
I plan on going for a griffon vulture, myself. You don't see very many vultures at all, it seems. Rather sad, honestly. I blame the stereotypical bald uglier type vulture everyone assumes all of them are going to look like.
▶ No.37705
>>37704
That too, yeah, you do get the kind of bright colors thing in nature, just not in cats and dogs and stuff. Actually for a while I was thinking about making my OC a five-lined skink because of their awesome striped pattern and blue tails, but I ultimately settled on fur because... well, I dunno, because I'm an unimaginative cretin or something.
▶ No.37774
>>37696
>Why does a fursona need to have a theme?
Because anon wanted it to have one?
Which is fine as long as it's done well.
▶ No.37775>>37781 >>37806 >>38030
▶ No.37781>>37791
>>37775
Very first thing it gives me: "Blue Jay, is a communist, has water dripping from it constantly"
I want to kill it & myself.
▶ No.37791>>37923
>>37781
some are funny, i like it
▶ No.37806
>>37775
This is like something out of The Promised Neverland.
▶ No.37860
This shit resembles me, sheit.
▶ No.37890>>37894
Genetfag here. >>37687 said most of what I was thinking, although clothing isn't something I'm thinking about right now. Look at pic related. Those girls have a theme going for them without going full sparkledog. A big issue I’m having with the pastry theme is coming up with a good execution for them because genets have spots and those aren’t very flexible. Other anons recommended going for different animals where odd colorization isn’t an issue, like birds and lizards, but I want to stick to a mammal. Also, the reason why I want the white blotches is because it’s a psychical trait I have and I want my fursona to share it. It’s suppose to be more subtle like on his left thumb and that’s mostly it.
Anyway, some anons recommended using minor accessories instead of a theme, which is something I’ve thought about doing, but I don’t want to go overboard and end up solidifying them in a setting. They’re fursona and not a full on character, I should be able to fling them into any setting if that makes any sense. Another question I want to ask is, at what point would you consider getting a ref? They tend to go around $20-50, so buying one that’s really simple seems like a waste, but I want to get /fur/’s opinion on this.
▶ No.37894>>38000
>>37890
>Those girls have a theme going for them without going full sparkledog.
You wouldn't even be able to tell if they weren't literally drawn sitting on cinnamon buns, though. I can assume it's less a "theme" and more a pun on bun->bunny anyway. Since there's no such thing as a Genet Cake, it won't work.
Anyway, refs are basically mandatory if you're going to be getting commissioned artwork, but not necessary otherwise. Many artists will charge you more to "create" your character based on a description, than just copying its traits from a ref; of course, if it's an artist that charges based on time worked, it will also take more time for him to draw it without a ref. If you're just using the character for RP/ERP, then a written description will probably suffice.
▶ No.37923>>38007
>>37791
"fuschia maine coon. it is made of petrified wood. it has a pet of the same species as itself. "
OK then.
▶ No.38000
>>37894
You’re right, but it gives them a consistent fur pattern which blends well and is appealing to the eyes, even without a natural fur pattern. That’s mostly the point of going with a theme, to have a fur pattern that’s unnatural, but looks good. But, I suppose I could roll with the theme even further and make them a baker or a cook, since I’ve considered getting into that in real life. As for the ref stuff, I guess that means getting a ref would always be worth it no matter how generic my character looks, right? If that’s the case then I guess I could go with the minor accessories thing and leave it at that. My fursona is mostly so I have a character to get commissions with friends. I don’t ever plan on using it for stuff like RP/ERP.
▶ No.38007
>>37923
ok try this one, use the category to switch settings. they got modern, fantasy, steampunk, and scifi
http://www.seventhsanctum.com/generate.php?Genname=anthro
▶ No.38030
>>37775
I think I've seen this very fursona before.
▶ No.38243>>38250
Does anyone here have any examples of what they consider to be a good fursona? Not including your own. I'm curious to see how everyone's tastes vary.
▶ No.38250>>38252 >>38305 >>38321
>>38243
To be flat, no fursona is good, because it is a fursona. That is, a character to represent you. Furry characters alone can be good, but I am not one who believes in truly 'good' fursonas.
Anyway, moving on, just keep it simple. Aesthetically, it should be as natural as possible while still maintaining originality, in some form. Clothing is good about this, though. If you are worried your character is too plain, throw on a hat. Though, the right selection of species usually fixes that. Don't be an unimaginative scrub and go for the thousandth million dog. Go for, say, a nurse shark. Something of a specific type, rather than just "shark", and preferably something not super common.
Want something colorful? Go for something colorful, like a bird of paradise, or one of the many different types of insects out there. Insects are pretty much always gold, since nobody else gives them enough love.
As far as clothes go, try to think about how it'd work for your animal person. Don't just slap on jeans and a shirt on some wing-armed talon-footed owl gal. Ideally, you don't want to go something complex, but ultimately, styles are styles. Just make sure it looks good, and isn't too flashy.
Oh, and no hair, hair is bad.
Anything else?
▶ No.38252
>>38250
>oh, and nohair, hair is bad
how do i sign up for being being your nigga
▶ No.38305>>38321
>>38250
Choosing a species for your fursona/OC that's extremely uncommon or not even "furry" (reptiles, birds, insects, aquatic), for no other reason than to stand out from the crowd, reeks of special-snowflake-ism. It's also ineffective because so many other people have the same idea. You think you're going to be distinctive just by being a goddamn shark, but there are thousands of other shark fursonas out there and you all look the same because furry artists are terrible at drawing anything that isn't a canine.
That's why I've always recommended to buck the trend, but only a LITTLE. You want to be a fox? Fine; be a fox. But 99.99% of fox fursonas are either a red fox, fennec fox, or arctic fox. There are 9 other species of fox just in the vulpes genus, and some dozen other species of canids commonly described as foxes. Pick one of those and you'll stand out enough.
Just keep in mind that trying to be so distinctive as to believe that nobody else will have picked your species or clothing look or whatever is an exercise in both futility and insanity. There are so many millions of fursonas that no matter what you do, somebody else is going to be your species or look just like it, even if you go with a hybrid species or invent a species or whatever. There's an episode of Doug I watched as a kid, that every goddamn furry with a fursona should be required to watch. In it, the MC is one day lambasted at school because his typical plain wardrobe is revealed to be the same clothes as is worn by some newly popular celebrity. So he goes out of his way to try a new "look", only to fail at every turn because somebody else is always wearing the same thing. Eventually, he goes clothes shopping and gathers a horrendous combination of mismatched and randomly assorted layers of flashy garbage (sound familiar?), only to be shown by his sister in a magazine that this EXACT mess is a popular trend called "The Schizo Look".
I may go around touting myself as the one-and-only Coonfox, but I have no delusions about its originality. There are plenty of raccoon/fox hybrid characters floating around, and even though most of them are extremely lazy and just stick a ringed tail on a normal red fox, it's probable that somewhere, sometime, somebody has come up with a coat pattern nearly indistinguishable from the one I came up with. I'm perfectly okay with this, and even if I had gone with something more common, I would have been okay with it. Being different isn't about how you look, anyway, but with how you act. If there is nothing distinctive about you, as a person or as a "character" besides what you appear as, then you're horribly bereft of personality. Piling on more and more visually unique items or patterns isn't going to fix that.
▶ No.38321>>38324 >>38346
>>38305
>"M-muh furry only applies to furred races!"
Fuck off, mate, that hasn't been the standard for fucking years.
It's been a flat "anthromorphic character" for ages.
> It's also ineffective because so many other people have the same idea
There are some people who've got the idea, sure, but it's rare as fuck. The vast, vast majority of the time, you're just getting dog mcgee and his buddy femboy cat mcdee.
I have never seen a single griffon vulture OC. Maybe one exists, but I think it's safe to say, I can have a griffon vulture and not worry about it.
>because furry artists are terrible at drawing anything that isn't a canine.
That's an issue of quality of fur artists, not of quality of OCs.
If fur artists are shit who only draw one thing, they're shit who only draw one thing and you should yell at them for it. You shouldn't just give up and accept your poorly drawn OC because "everyone does a dog face".
Your next paragraph ends up going to say exactly what I was fucking saying, so now I'm left wondering why you've decided to dive in to a debate. It ain't like I'm saying "YOU MUST BE THE ONLY ONE WHO PICKED X". Just that it ought be uncommon, as I fucking said >>38250
>" and preferably something not super common."
>hybrid
Hybrids are shit.
▶ No.38324
>>38321
>hybrid
Hybrids are shit.
ottagons a cute
▶ No.38346>>38358
>>38321
My point was that if you pick something that is extremely uncommon just to try to be visually distinctive and for no other reason, it reflects badly on yourself. It also isolates you from the rest of the fandom because it's clear to everyone else that you're intentionally looking down on them. The fact that you're violently defensive about having a bird fursona means you're fully aware of the paradox, here. Merely having a fursona means you want to socialize with the group, but at the same time you're making fun of the group by deliberately being unlike them. It's like you're showing up to a Star Trek convention wearing a Star Wars cosplay, and expecting everyone to play nice with you. You walk in saying, "Hey, I want to be a part of you guys, even though you're all fucking losers because you're all the same; look how different I am!"
▶ No.38358>>38367
>>38346
>making your OC a bird means you are looking down on people
This is clearly bait. Nobody is this retarded.
▶ No.38367>>38385 >>41575
>>38358
>Nobody is this retarded.
This is the furry fandom we're talking about. Take it literally when I say retardedness is a bottomless pit and everyone actively struggles to earn the depth record.
But anyways, you both do have a point.
But you're focusing too hard on one thing, which is the species.
As you said, no fursona is good. The very nature of having an alter-ego means you'll be forever stuck with giving it unrealistic traits and personality which compensate any of your real flaws, and then some.
So when you decide to choose a rare species for your sona but then still regard it as your "better-self" then yes, it does look like you're trying to have it be a parody of itself. Rightfully so, I might add, but I don't think that was your original goal.
The key is to stop making fursonas and start making characters. Put some actual thought into them. Their background, where they live, how they live, what is their purpose in life, their ambitions, their skills, their strengths and virtues, their flaws and shortcomings. But don't use yourself as a basis, use them. There are folk myths and legends about practically any living animal on earth, including plants, take inspiration from them. Take inspiration from their natural habits and behavior.
This very thread about "thinking how to make a fursona" is nonsense, because fursonas don't have any thought put into them other than "what is my favorite animal" and "what would I choose to be if I could change my life with a flick of my fingers". The first one will always be a common, generic animal and the answer to the latter question will always, inevitably be an idealized version of themselves.
That's why going for a unique species for your sona will yield mixed feelings. On one side, you have people frowning because they can't tell if you're mocking them or being serious and on the other side you have people praising you for your "originality".
So, in short:
<common species/mary sue personality = fursona
<unique species/mary sue personality = special snowflake fursona
<any species/balanced personality = good character
Of course, good characters are wasted on this fandom. You're better off on /tg/.
▶ No.38385>>41575
>>38367
My focus on species is more around getting out of that "you have to be a neon dragon-hybrid dog-fox demon in order to be original" scope.
But ,yeah, you're 100% right otherwise. Fursonas are always going to be shit, as I said in my original post. Not because any character design issues, but because it's supposed to reflect you. It is, by nature, a self insert. And that's never good.
▶ No.38390>>38391 >>38392
What the fuck am I reading?
▶ No.38391
>>38390
Is stealing OCs the ultimate way to bait and troll people on DA?
▶ No.38392>>38396
>>38390
>stealing OCs
What are you talking about? They look nothing alike. They're not even the same species.
▶ No.38396>>38398 >>38400
>>38392
What? Dude, it's literally the same drawing, flipped with the antlers shopped out and the hue changed. You can even see the botched photoshop work.
Who cares though, I'm just gonna grab my popcorn.
▶ No.38398>>38399 >>38411
>>38396
They're completely different characters. It isn't stolen at all. They aren't even the same color.
▶ No.38399>>38401
>>38398
>They're completely different characters. It isn't stolen at all. They aren't even the same color.
This is like claiming a sonic recolor is an original character
▶ No.38400>>38411
>>38396
One is a deer and the other is a red short-tailed mouse.
Are you blind?
If you overlay one on top of the other, you'll notice next to no overlap outside of parts of the background (which is just a generic pattern).
▶ No.38401>>38402 >>38403 >>38411
>>38399
Except that's still the same species. This one's completely different. They're even different genders.
▶ No.38402
>>38401
>They're even different genders.
Aren't they both girls? They both look like girls.
▶ No.38403>>38404
>>38401
>both characters have tits
>different genders
▶ No.38404>>38405 >>38407
>>38403
You can have tits without being a girl
See: futa
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▶ No.38407>>38413
>>38404
Futas are girls, though.
▶ No.38411>>38415 >>38418 >>38421
>>38400
>>38401
>>38398
Am I being rused here?
I don't give a fuck about the stolen character drama, but it is literally the same fucking drawing with minor edits. If this is a "funny" way of saying you don't give a fuck either, well, it's not funny at all.
▶ No.38413>>38422
>>38407
I'm talking about futa with balls here though.
>>38405
Futas aren't boys either, retard.
▶ No.38415>>38426
>>38411
No, I'm completely serious, they're two entirely different characters in every way. Only thing they have the same is that they happen to be wearing the same shirt, but lots of people do that.
▶ No.38418>>38426
>>38411
I honestly don't get how you can say they're the same character, to be honest. I'm assuming you're a troll but just in case you aren't, let me explain it to you:
They're different species:
>Deer
<Short-tailed Mouse
They are color-coordinated differently:
>Yellow and Brown
<Red and Pink
Body parts:
>Antlers, Deer ears, Deer tail
>Mouse ears, Short-tailed mouse tail
Sex:
>Male
<Female
Name:
>Elliot
<Vermillion
I'm going to go out on a limb and assume their personalities and histories are different but I can't confirm that.
I'm having trouble seeing how you're interpreting these two characters to be the same (assuming you're being serious).
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>>38411
>Am I being rused here?
This person created fake accounts to give themselves fake death threats to try and mock a furry artist
▶ No.38422>>38425
>>38413
Futa with balls is still female because they present as female (and not in the Tumblr transgender sense). They are females.
▶ No.38425>>38512 >>38520
>>38422
How can something with balls be female? Learn some biology, please
▶ No.38426>>38429 >>38443
>>38415
>>38418
There is literally no need to keep pretending to be retarded here.
But anyways, keep those screencaps coming, I can hear my popcorn popping.
▶ No.38429
>>38426
Wish I could, dawg.
▶ No.38443
>>38426
I'm just shocked you didn't notice sooner.
To be fair, I have seen some retardation around here, when it comes to some of similar type shit. Guess it's one of them 'no parody is truly clear of reality' type deals.
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>>37437
Look at Dr. Javi on FA. He's got a genet with simplified markings.
▶ No.38512>>38513 >>38517 >>38520
>>38425
How can something who has a natural, functioning vagina and beasts be male? Learn some biology, please
▶ No.38513>>38515
>>38512
Gonads determine the sex; everything else is just window dressing.
▶ No.38515>>38548
>>38513
Did you miss the functioning part? They have working ovaries too.
▶ No.38517>>38520
>>38512
How can something that has a natural, functioning penis and set of balls be female?
Fuck off, you homosexual faggot.
▶ No.38520>>38521
>>38425
>>38512
>>38517
ok but what are you arguing over
dicke and balls = not female
vagoo and """""beasts""""" = not male
you're all right, i don't see the reason for disagreement here????
▶ No.38521
>>38520
Eh, fair enough, I wasn't the other guy who's claiming that dick + balls = male, anyway.
It's still gay as shit, in any case.
▶ No.38548>>38550
>>38515
A functioning vagina doesn't require ovaries; that part wasn't mentioned.
If they have both, they're a hermaphrodite. Simple.
Male, female, hermaphrodite that requires a choice and some surgery and/or hormone blockers. There are no other alternatives. Traps don't exist, cuntboys don't exist, dickgirls don't exist, futa doesn't exist.
▶ No.38550
>>38548
>If they have both, they're a hermaphrodite. Simple.
Pretty much. It's just a catch'em all term, since futas come in different forms (magical penisclit, penis, penis+balls) and origins (from birth, magic, science, virus) in the stories. Just because some retard uses it for his shemale art doesn't change what the term is originally used for.
>doesn't exist
It the real world? Sure doesn't. Neither do anthros.
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▶ No.40097>>40107 >>40180
How does one make a mostly-feral monkey? They only come in brown.
▶ No.40107>>40112 >>40334
>>40097
A better question is: why would you want to? You might as well have a human character and then just make it ugly as shit.
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▶ No.40180>>40185
>>40097
they come in more than just brown, there are some pretty interesting options out there. most are butt ugly, but that can be changed through the character design
▶ No.40185
>>40180
That diana monkey is pretty cool.
▶ No.40332>>40643 >>40658
Do you think a fursona should be static to reflect your state at the time, or develop and change to reflect you? I'm looking to create my first with the help of an artist and I've got a pretty good idea of what I want, but that question is nagging me. It's like why develop this character if she's not going to follow what's established on the ref sheet?
▶ No.40334>>40345
>>40107
there are exceptions
▶ No.40345
>>40334
Yeah, you're right. The first one is more like canines, except ugly as shit.
▶ No.40643
>>40332
Whst do you mean by "if she's not going to follow what's established on the ref sheet"? If you give an artist a ref sheet, if they want to suggest changes and you're cool with that, great. If they refuse to draw it the way you want it, find a different artist.
But yes, your 'sona absolutely can change over time. Many who do that get updated ref sheets. I know of one person whose 'sona changes almost constantly, and he gets updated art about once a month (not a full ref sheet though). Some people have changed their character to something completely new, though I haven't seen anyone who does that frequently.
▶ No.40658
>>40332
I guess it depends on what you want personally. Do you want some perfect ideal that you'll always strive for? Do you want a character that represents how your mood changes day to day? Or do you just want something unique that doesn't stagnate?
Really just wing it & do whatever you want. It's not like this is all some sort formal, rule filled application thing. Your 'sona could be a blob that changes color every day of the week. If you want a character that changes over time, whether as an independent character or as a representation of *you* changing, that's up to you.
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▶ No.40889>>40981
Waiting on a quote for a ref of a striped skunk mom I've had in my head all day. She's got a daughter and was recently widowed.
▶ No.40953>>40981
Come up with an idea, gather some references, and pay an artist. It's not that hard, honestly.
▶ No.40981>>41003
>>40953
>>40889
>not learning how to draw and drawing your fursona yourself
???
▶ No.41003>>41008
>>40981
On top of working 40 hours a week, making shit dosh, and generally in a bad mood all the time I don't think I'd be that good at art creation. I can't even draw a straight line.
▶ No.41008>>41164
>>41003
No one can draw a perfectly straight line, not even the greatest of artists.
But it's not perfection that matters, art is subjective and as long as you put effort into it, eventually you'll reach the top.
▶ No.41164
>>41008
While I appreciate the encouragement, I just don't have any motivation to start right now. I'd be literally starting fresh looking at how to draw books for beginners at my library. It's just not something I'm serious about right now when I can commission an artist to draw my thoughts for me. Yes, that will change, but for now I'll get a commission of my OC.
▶ No.41575
>>38367
>>38385
I couldn't decide on my fursona because I felt dishonest about it, like I was making this too perfect version of myself. I just decided to start creating basic characters with detail I could write about and develop over time that wouldn't necessarily reflect my image of myself. I'm thinking I may just use the characters as a means to explore my sexual fantasies and have fun writing about them.