/erp/ - Erotic Roleplay

I know you want to exclude artists that can reliably create their own content but you should really, seriously consider taking up drawing even if it takes you years to git gud enough to do your own character art.

In the long run it will pay off in spades and you will be able to do art trades.

>>126597

By the time I'm gud I hopefully won't care about F-list anymore, but I am pretty interested in learning how to draw for non-lewd uses.

It's worth noting that people who say "I own the art" when they only commissioned it usually do not own the art, just the right to use it. The artist retains the rights to the work.

Don't play with people who say "I own the art" unless they are also the artist.

>>126601

I've never really distinguished the two. "I've paid for the artwork to be drawn specifically for me" is essentially the same as owning it to me.

Still, I feel sort of bad using artwork in general. Or rather, I don't feel like it's genuine.

>>126997

The difference is actually hugely substantial as far as the law goes. Ownership of a work of art is complex but it usually boils down to only the person who made the work owns it unless they sign away the rights.

>>126601

>>127000

What is the legal distinction, especially when it comes to things like this? When I pay for art to be drawn "for me", what rights do I gain and what does the artist keep?

>Sees Rebeltaxi

>Vomits in mouth

It was fine until he started mentioning goth girls.

Then he started mentioning underage goth girls.

Then I stopped watching

How the fuck do you even sage.

One of my friend's uses the money they get paid to go to college to buy like 10+~ characters worth of art, and all of them are pretty nice/cheap commissions too.

And I'm like 80% sure that if the artist goes, 'Stop using my art' unless he signs away the rights, you kind of have to.

>>127004

If my understanding is correct, the default is that if you designed the character yourself, you own the rights to the character, but not automatically the work itself, and you're using it with permission.

However because you own the character, the artist can't go and sell the artwork to someone else, though you'd have to talk to an expert to know what the artist can and can't do with the art.

Name on because I'm too lazy to take it off every time I go between making game and non-game posts.

>>127021

So if describe what I want drawn I have rights to the character but not the art, but if it's a canon character I don't have rights to either and even the artist doesn't can't go and sell it on?

>>127024

I think in the former case you need more than a description to have the mixed-ownership I think happens.

I mean, if you commission something like "A girl with curly red hair in a blue bikini." you might not be able to claim any kind of ownership because you commissioned something general rather than something that would warrant protection via copyright.

But if you commission someone else's copyrighted character, you're paying for it to exist unless the artist offers from whatever fair use rights they have.

But that's all AFAIK. If you want to be sure, ask an expert.

>>127004

When you commission digital art you are paying for the art to exist, you are not paying to own the rights to the work. If you commission a real life art, you are paying for the art to exist, paying to have the art physically in your posssession, but the artist still has the rights to the work.

>>127021

is correct

>>127024

you own nothing if you commission art of a canon character

>>127033

pretty sure all this is correct

>>127038

>you are not paying to own the rights to the work

That depends on the agreement for the commission. Work-for-hire where the person paying gets the intellectual property rights is the entire reason that software companies and art mills can even exist.

>>127042

Addendum: Of course, that depends on if there's anything original to be copyrighted, of course.

With that said, fanart and fanfics DO have nominal copyrights as derived works… but to actually use them for any public or legal purpose you would need to have the original copyright holder give you a license for the original work.