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 No.367861

So, I've heard about a lot of mixed discussion on masturbation.

I'm torn between

A.) Fapping causes low testosterone, more breakouts and greasy skin

B.) Not fapping increases testosterone, (then suddenly lowers it after a week) and a few mental benefits

Are these true?

Which one should I go for? I'm trying to decrease as much testosterone as I can, as I don't have access to and estrogen-increasing products (I'm in college, live with super conservative parents) so I need help with this

P.S. I'm feminine looking without any products, but I want to decrease testosterone as much as possible

 No.367904

>>367861

Fapping also means you can fuck longer, nofap means you're trigger-happy


 No.367934

>>367904

would it be more desirable for a bottom to cum fast? t. virgin


 No.367954

Not a tranny board.


 No.368385

>>367861

I'm not an expert on the matter but fapping releases alot of testosterone when you cum, so I dunno


 No.368414

>>367954

Not all gay guys wanna be manly, dipshit


 No.368418

File: a7d4db8d3af7442⋯.png (726.42 KB, 732x637, 732:637, wegewrhejrj.png)

>Eat lots of soy products

>Use tea-tree oil products, and also lavender

>Drink lots of water from plastic bottles

>Eat canned food

That's about all the regular sources of xenoestrogens I can think of. Soy really is your number one here OP, eats lots of that and it's almost like taking HRT.

t. /fit/izen who avoids all of these things


 No.368463

File: 6c374051b3660e8⋯.png (84.37 KB, 326x326, 1:1, 6c374051b3660e8ea6b1fc5e1d….png)

>>368450

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.


 No.368475

>>367861

>I'm torn between

But OP, are those even contradictory options?

Of these, the "mental benefits" thing is the one I have the most doubt about. What I've heard is that not fapping lowers testosterone after like a week, which is better for sin and hair.

Also, I think for a lot of us (who've fapped too much) it's good to do it less and allow for more libido and stuff. Though I grew up masturbating wrong so it took a lot just to be able to fuck right, anyway.


 No.368609

>>367861

A) Bullshit

B) Also bullshit, you mean that one spike after 7 days after which it gets normal again

Fap as much as you want or don't, doesn't matter.

Also reducing testosterone with diet is really hard and those trap guides are plain bullshit. Either completely change your diet around it or don't bother. Or just go on HRT already but please don't bring that up a lot here.


 No.369066

File: 5922539a9f48094⋯.jpg (77.03 KB, 640x480, 4:3, 1509997428221.jpg)

>>367861

Gay science.

>Fapping decreases androgen receptor sensitivity. In other words, even if you do have high testosterone, it won't matter because your receptors would be downregulated from jerking off all day, every day.

>Eat healthy, lift weights REGULARLY and go LIGHT on them.–just look at what women in gym do and follow that.

>Have a 15 min. run (don't overdo it) every other day.

>If you want to look feminine just engage in non-masculine activities and avoid competing with other men and encourage cooperation.

Basically, try acting like a soft faggot as much as you can.Enjoy being young because that uWu I WEAR LONG SLEEVES AND GRAB THE COFFEE MUG WITH BOTH OF MY HANDS becomes cringier and cringier as you age.

Nofap is based and has millennia of ancient traditions and religious teachings behind it.

The Scientific Method is a fucking joke. Trust your instincts and face the truth.


 No.369733

>>367861

No idea if the testosterone stuff is true, but I say nofap for a variety of other reasons. Orgasm and the chemical release that comes with it is meant to reinforce productive behavior: if you can acquire a mate then you must also be able to accumulate resources or be physically skilled etc. Masturbating is like rewarding yourself for doing nothing and makes you less likely to be productive and get a bf at all. Also your satisfaction with your partner tends to be negatively correlated with the number of sexual partners you've had previously, as you are constantly thinking of getting something better. Masturbating alone and to unrealistic porn does the same thing. So instead of masturbating, think of how much better off your future relationship will be if you don't do it.


 No.369738

>>369733

This is only true if getting a bf is likely or even POSSIBLE. For many men here, especially older ones, it's not. In that case, all you end up doing is disallowing yourself pleasure with the expectation of fulfillment of an impossible fantasy, and by the time you give up such delusions, you're too old too really enjoy masturbating anymore.


 No.369775

>>368418

oestrogen just makes you look like a fat greasy fuck tbh


 No.369846

>>369066

>uWu I WEAR LONG SLEEVES AND GRAB THE COFFEE MUG WITH BOTH OF MY HANDS becomes cringier and cringier as you age

When I hit 80, I'm going to start doing these kinds of things. I'll be this wrinkled old fuck in a nursing home dressing in long anime-print sweaters and going "Nyah!", pawing at random people's shoulders while making a ^_^ face.


 No.369898

>>367861

>>368609

Pretty much what he said. It's a lot of bollocks. Unless you've got some peer-reviewed papers showing a strong link one way or the other between fapping and testosterone, there's nothing to go on.

I recommend a strict diet of no junk science for the next month. See how that goes.


 No.377077

>>367861

if you post your kik or discord I can help you. I know some natural ways to decrease T while increasing or keeping the same level of E. I am actually in school for things like this so I kinda know what I am talking about lol


 No.377469

>>369775

This, there is a difference between HRT boobs and soy moobs.


 No.377534

>>368418

how can i drink water not from plastic bottles in south american countries where the tap water is not drinkable or filter-able ?


 No.377536

>I'm trying to decrease as much testosterone as I can

eat soy, lots and lots of it


 No.379311

>>377534

seconding this, my city has a water boil notice in every two months




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