No.996357
>>996352
How about you start the discussion, OP, instead of just posting one word and thinking it's good enough.
No.996358
No.996408
>>996393
Is the screencapper drunk?
No.996465
>>996408
Probably some redditor. I noticed there's two kinds of caps
>Cap speaks for itself and displays the post(s) relevant to the event and nothing else.
>Cap has the post(s), followed by the majority of the image being filled with reactions and response posts that don't add anything to it and says "this is funny/"cringe"/bad." similar to the laugh track in thebazingashow
No.996466
>>996393
You can go back there…
No.996468
No.996641
>>996393
You have to go back. Back to Redwood/Alternative's blog. Soyboyrai Jack
No.996696
>>996424
I can't believe these fuckers would believe it's a stepping stone when the people who subscribe to it literally have gotten worse. As in, they used to be decent. Look at shit like Natasha Allegri or rcdart. They get considerably worse. Natasha Allegri eventually stopped with that style to go more 'anime,' but you could clearly see damage was done; she doesn't have the line confidence she used to and looks like she just guesses as to where muscles are located.
No.996700
It's mostly the complete lack of creativity I hate. Over saturation of one style is never a good thing. It was just as bad when there were poor immitations of Genndy Tartakovsky everywhere.
No.996702
>>996374
>remaking all of Ralph Bakshi's films with all the PROBLEMATIC elements expunged?
Man, wouldn't that be a sign of the times? Take the work of a man who actually grew up in "diversity", had affection for all kinds of people, but still spoke honestly about the ups and downs of such a life, and sanitise it into some politically correct ideal of such a life that exists solely in the minds of the insulated and ignorant.
No.996706
>>996696
>stepping stone
Yeah, gotta agree that the reasoning is all wrong. Backwards, in fact, as many artists start with some skill and knowledge of the fundamentals in their teen years, then degrade horrendously into a self-parodying tumblr cliche. You don't go into art school to learn a basic-as-fuck "style" so you can become a much better artist much later in your already adult life. You go to art school to learn draftsmanship, life drawing, color theory, perspective, composition, anatomy, and so on. The point is to fully immerse yourself in the fundamentals and technical aspects of art so you can leave and perform those complex tasks, shit that the average person can't do, with ease and frequency.
Coming out of art school with art skills that match pre-teen tumblr artists is a nightmareish act of total failure. It speaks volumes about how evil ideological corruption and post-modernist thinking can be when it can ruin something as free and expressive as art. They've literally turned an entire generation of artists and animators into worthless shits who couldn't make it as newspaper cartoonists, but somehow, they're running the goddamned animation industry.
No.996714
>>996706
People who go to art school are idiots, anyway. It was fine back in the day when they had legitimate artists that you learned from, when it had proper life drawing, and when public colleges were free and private ones could be afforded with a summer job. Now you're wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars to be taught shit you could learn better by yourself. A great deal of the best artists are self-taught. And now that we're in an information age where you can just watch livestreams and get walkthroughs and shit on the internet, there is literally NO reason to go to art school beyond networking, which can be done elsewhere.
I've never gone to art school, I've just graduated college, and I'd say I'm better than a great deal of animators and artists in the industry today. Obviously I'm not perfect by any means, but I've gotten to a place just by doing shit as a hobby. The animated face is something I made on my first attempt animating and just looking at Glenn Keane explaining his process. And it's not like I'm special. It's just that these people are THAT inept, and art schools are THAT bad.
No.996716
>>996714
You go to school for qualifications. For some imaginary letters that will in theory get you a job. It's a racket.
No.996718
>>996716
Again, that's not even true. Like I said, a great deal of respectable artists have never gone to art school. At the very least, you can get a better degree going to a cheaper university that does more than art. You're better off doing animation as a minor or something at a normal-ass university with a major in something legitimate.
No.996720
>>996672
god forbid anyone not like normalfags
>Googles
No.996722
>>996718
In theory. Most art students end up in the service industry. But as long as the illusion is kept alive, the parasites get their money.
No.996725
>>996716
Turns out most places that hire artists don't even give a fuck if you have a degree or not.
No.996726
>>996352
Calarts ripped off anime as well. They just mixed some spongebob with it and thought no one would notice.
No.996839
No.996842
>>996730
I've gone full circle. I openly praise Reddit, say "lol", and "normie", just to be a contrarian now.
No.996895
>>996700
>Over saturation of one style is never a good thing. It was just as bad when there were poor immitations of Genndy Tartakovsky everywhere.
Agreed. Early 90's was trying to emulate John K's style, then mid 90's was Genndy's thickline for toon characters/while realistic proportioned characters used Timm style. 2000's was anime/manga influenced, mid 2000's (2007?) flash started getting used more. Then 10's was Adventure Time thin outline/noodle arms and that seems to have evolved into CalArts.
It's strange how this happens? Is it a case of artists looking to the past for influence to (like Hanna Barber's 50/60's style coming back in the 90's) or it of companies trying to emulate what's popular by copying?
I do find one thing interesting about the CalArts potato head, is there any Nickelodeon show that has used it?
>>996714
>Expression gif
I like the asymmetrical expression, keep up the good work Anon.
No.996898
>>996895
Those trends at least kept their differences. The current trend is very related with the Hanna-Barbara era, every cartoon has the same style and same formular that for very long.
>is there any Nickelodeon show that has used it?
Breadwinners
No.996944
What if this was actually a ploy by an executive, who greenlit this despite knowing it's horrible and people will hate it, solely so he could then push for reviving ThunderCats 2011 and using the negative fan reaction as evidence it still has an audience.
Wouldn't that be funny.
No.996983
This thread's officially gone to shit.
No.996991
Back to the main topic, while I appreciate several people mocking the Calarts style by drawing everything on its style, I can't help but feel like soyboys are getting some sick amusement to see everyone worked up to draw so many pics.
No.996996
>>996991
They won't be so amused when calarts is hated by everyone.
No.997006
>>996998
I am saying this because I know some SJW trolls like to get under people skin like that Nicolo faggot (I don't remember his name, I just know he worked alongside the creator and started to pick up fights with fans), and I could picture them saying "You know, its so great to see everyone drawing in our style it shows we really hit the nerve" or at least pretend to not appear mad.
No.997010
>>996991
Soyim are masochists, yes.
No.997012
>>996999
But now that hate is coming out in the open and the style is being lampooned.
No.997078
Another face that bothers me is this soy expression. I've only ever seen soyboys make this face in real life, never women or kids.
No.997081
>>997078
I guess this is the only way calartists know how to convey this emotion of "Awwww".
No.997086
>>997081
>>997078
Care Bears do this a lot. Difference being is that I don't want to punch a Care Bear when they do it.
No.997092
>>997088
All Care Bears are deredere withe the exception of Grumpy Bear.
Actually now that I think about I think I've seen a lot of different cute, short 80s characters use that pose. It was used as a multipurpose emote sort of how the Transformers used that wide eyed, open mouthed expression all the time. It probably had something to do with limited animation and some consequence of them having stubby little arms and legs combined with a big head.
No.997095
>>997092
Oddly enough this and the yandere pose doesn't bother me but when the pose in calarts style it's just so obnoxious looking.
No.997097
>>997012
I think this looks better than the actual Thundercats shit, and I don't know how I feel about that thought. I think it's a mixture of further revulsion and amusement that random schmucks on the Internet are doing CalArts's shit better than CalArts.
>>997095
Because that cartoon girl and Care Bears aren't super-deformed blob people drawn in pastel colors and tiny noodle hands and arms, perhaps.
No.997101
>>997097
>I think this looks better than the actual Thundercats shit, and I don't know how I feel about that thought.
Well you'll notice that the female characters still look female rather than ugly, agender blobs and the colors are in agreement with each other and aren't obnoxious.
No.997111
>>997081
Lol, Star's head is so big it looks like she's just holding her nose.
No.997114
>>996992
Why should I defend something I didn't write and didn't cap, you thick cunt? Are you stuck in Read-Only mode? Because I've been watching you faff about, and you seem to lack reading comprehension. You obviously read the words, because you parrot them back, but you don't process them. Are you a bot?
No.997120
No.997121
>>997106
that first one's a tad too real
No.997162
>>997078
I've never seen anyone make that face in real life.
No.997163
>>997156
NO, YOU STOP THIS RIGHT NOW
No.997164
>>997156
DON'T EVEN REMIND ME
No.997165
>>997078
>That fucking Squish face 1.
I remember an Anon **in the original TC Roar thread?* mentioning that the face Lion-o made (in that scene) looked like it was copied from an existing show but DAMN after seeing the Mabel and Steven gif it really does look like they have all these hacks have tapping into the same inspiration source.
No.997180
>>997156
Works pretty well.
No.997220
No.997225
>somebody did this one non-ironically
it almost makes ya sick.
No.997227
>>997225
at least this one has 2 rows of teeth
No.997228
>>997114
Because you're the one who posted it, you dumb nigger. If you don't agree with the shitposts that you screencapped, then why the fuck do you keep reposting them?
No.997236
>>997081
The first one of these is supposed to spoof these overexaggerated expressions, though
No.997240
Friendly reminder that this is the only reason why there are men wearing buns
No.997242
No.997258
>>997240
Bald hair is less shameful.
No.997263
>>997240
I left my hair grow longer to get a ponytail to hide a bald spot because I'm still too hairy to shave my head and because being a shavedhead was fucking soy as shit, now they do this.
I hate my life.
No.997264
>>997263
A fully shaved head has never been the numale look. They always opt for a buzzcut at most.
No.997265
>>997264
Case in point:Aidsmoby.
No.997267
>>997265
I figured he was just living up to namesake.
No.997268
>>997264
Only if you are also fit, having a shaved had with a skinny body will make you look like a cancer patient
No.997269
>>997268
>shaved head
fixed
No.997271
>>997240
Funny thing is, old japanese warlord fuckers did the same thing for the same reasons, and not only that, they made all the young warrior dudes around them do the same thing so they wouldn't stick out.
It fell out of favor when foreigners kept pointing out how fucking stupid it was and laughing at them.
No.997272
>>997267
I'm just tired leftist faggots copy styles I used 10 years ago and tried to use again just because I liked it.
No.997277
>>997268
You're only going to look like a cancer patient if you're some fucking weirdo that also shaves their eyebrows.
>>997271
Don't the Japs not bald very easily? I thought they had good hair but just had a hard time growing it anywhere but their head, like most Asians.
No.997280
>>997263
Get rid of the fucking ponytail, anon. It never looks good on a man unless you're a guy in a fucking anime. You probably look greasy.
No.997300
>>997277
They may very well go bald as a less rate or later in life, but they still go bald just fine.
No.997307
>>997228
That's the only one I posted, you fucking goldfish.
You're retarded. The voices in your head that tell you these things are also retarded.
No.997312
>>997240
I thought the manbun is the cause of balding.
No.997315
>>997312
It certainly won't help their hairline.
No.997325
There is nothing wrong with it., you are just all salty old weebs and are on your way out anyways.
No.997365
>>997271
I always thought that the soyboys were just trying to immitate samurai with that bun. Still at least the samurai could fight.
No.997432
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
Of course that pedophile Nazi MovieBob had to give his two cents. He talks about how nostalgiafags from his generation are stifling innovation and creativity with their butthurt attachment to their properties. The original 80s cartoon was just a commercial to sell toys shaped like square jawed 80s muscle men.
You shouldn't take its ridiculous premise or characters seriously and get attached to them.
No.997440
>>997432
Unless someone wrote a book about skipping his grandma's funeral so he could watch Thundercats I don't think he has room to talk, figuratively and literally.
No.997441
>>997432
>people still watch movie blob
I'm amazed.
>those comments and like to dislike ratio
Oh, that explains it, his audience is retarded.
No.997442
>>997432
MovieBlob treats Mario as his personal messiah and treats Nintendo Lore are a written in stone dogma. I'd say it's the pot calling the kettle black, but Thundercats fans aren't pissed because it's taking the show in a different creative direction, everyone is pissed that we're getting another unfunny, repulsive calarts shitscribble instead of something better.
CN isn't innovating. They have diverted their path entirely and regressed into a shitpit of laziness that represents an all-time low point for animation as an artform.
No.997445
>>997442
>MovieBlob treats Mario as his personal messiah and treats Nintendo Lore are a written in stone dogma
Worse than that, he treats the Mario cartoons as gospel and is still upset that Yoshi's Island didn't follow the show's canon and have Mario come from Brooklyn. He also hates Metroid Prime for "catering to the dude-bro FPS crowd" and Ocarina of Time for drawing in "those annoying anime kids." His entire internet presence was built on complaining about how Nintendo aren't like they were when he was 10. He also loyally defends Captain N. People like him and Dobson are the last people who should be using the "you're just a nostalgiafag" argument.
No.997446
>>997268
Which one is the original and which one is the clone?
No.997470
>>997442
The sheer virtue that they are doing a reboot instead of making up a new show entirely is evidence they aren't innovating at all.
>>997441
Here is something that is gonna stun you: this guy makes more money right now than most CA former contributors do. The one that makes second most is NChick. I figure his audience literally has no problem with his comments about eugenics, assuming that they are leftists like him.
No.997476
>>997446
You know, there's a THIRD twin called Phil Elmore, who writes for Worldnetdaily, and authored books on using katanas for urban self-defense against homeless people begging for change.
No.997478
>>997432
I seem to remember that Bob's first video on the internet was just a long rant about the (then) new Bionic Commando, and how the kids of today only like the dark and gritty stuff.
No.997481
>>997470
Nobody should have problems with eugenics because it doesn't actually mean "kill people I don't like" despite what he and the media would like you to believe.
No.997483
>>997476
>>997446
They're like a pathetic, bearded, doughy version of Solid, Liquid, and Solidus Snake. But who's the original that they were all cloned from?
No.997485
>>997483
I think they were originally a single being that split itself by mitosis
No.997490
>>997441
Serious question, hhat makes MovieBob have some legit fans while Dobson is universally hated beyond any chance of redemption?
No.997491
No.997492
>>997486
literally just his loudhouse stuff
No.997505
>>997446
Commiebob is fatter so im betting hes the real blob
No.997506
>>997446
Are those two different people?
No.997508
>>997490
>>997491
Chipman is considered extremely "honest and blunt" about any subject he discusses, which is a nice way of saying "he has absolutely no filter or know what the fuck he is saying", the average normalfag sees him as a guy that "says it like it is" and drops truth bombs (even when he is being completely ignorant about the subjects he discuss), and as such he should be considered a figure of authority. Others think that the message he is trying to deliver is good, but its ruined by his abrasive personality which is a case of "don't shoot the message".
No.997516
So far I had the impression that there are only 2 kinds of people that are defensive towards TCR:
>shitty artists with limited skills who are afraid that the only arstyle they can draw is becoming the most infamous thing ever
>people that never gave a fuck about the original series or the 2011 reboot so they have no reason the be angry about an IP they like being bastardized
No.997519
>>997516
I know who the first pic thanks to the original Thundercats thread but who is the 2nd? Some guy who works on the reboot or has friends that do?
No.997520
>>997519
it's an youtuber that reviews cartoons, he's far from being a deranged autist like mr enter but he was one the last people I expected to be defensive about the creative bankruptcy of modern cartoons
No.997522
No.997523
>>997520
Also, compare the cartoons he posted with pic related and tell me which one has more diverse designs
No.997524
>>997520
>just remember when everyone wanted to be either Anime or a powerpuff girls wannabe
What's wrong with that? I'd rather have wannabe anime than the calarts shit that dominates the market.
No.997525
>>997490
Blob was fortunate enough to be attached to places like the Escapist and Screw Attack that gave him exposure and allowed idiots to flock to him because "he's just like them". Dobson actually had a following on Deviantart at one point, but then he stopped updating and started to lash out at everyone until they either left or forgot about him. He then fucked himself right over by being a baby who can't take criticism, and deleted his DA. Now he hides all his stuff behind a Patreon paywall, and expects to make it big, despite having no exposure outside of that since he was banned from Twitter.
No.997530
>>997524
With exception of pic related I don't remember any western cartoon made in anime style that is utter garbage tho
No.997533
>>997520
Yeah, who would want to return to the time where we had Avatar and Teen Titans? And Sigma 6 was an American Japanese co-production and was animated by Studio Gonzo. Plus everything he posted has a unique look. I don't think his take is quite as hot as he seems to think it is. I have no idea who that dude is, but he sounds like he has a horse in the race.
It's so bizarre how everyone is coming out of the woodwork and bending over backwards to defend it. Even Doug Tennepel has been defending it and shitting on the original and its fans. He rarely talks about stuff he's not involved in. It almost feels like there's something deeper going on here. No one white knighted Be Cool Scooby-Doo, Sonic Boom, or the scores of other recent shows that had their designs crucified. Even the new Ninja Turtles didn't feel like it had this many ardent defenders. It's like there's some kind of Cal-Arts mafia and they're angry because their school is the butt of a joke.
No.997538
>>997481
I find it funny how Bob talks about being superior to everyone yet if he got his ideal society he'd be put at the bottom or executed.
>>997520
>Loonatics Unleashed
I thought everyone hated that one?
No.997543
>>997533
>Sonic Boom
Bad example, the game was so bad that actually made the cartoon series look good by comparison
and the show actually had the balls to make a meta episode mocking the sonic fandom with a fucking CWC-inspired character, gotta respect that
No.997546
>>997543
I just meant in terms of when the designs were originally revealed and people were ripping it apart and making memes about how stupid stretched Sonic and swole Knuckles looked.
No.997549
>>997533
It's less likely there's anything different about this and more that it was just at the right time. Fans are pissed, showrunners are pissed that their shit is getting made fun of, execs are pissed that everything is bombing and kids don't care. It's been a powder keg waiting to explode since at least when MLP started to wane.
No.997550
>>997523
Summer Camp Island probably is the gayest thing in form of animated media (including yaoi anime) ever made in history
No.997553
>>997549
Also forgot to point out that amateur animators have been getting screwed over extra hard recently so they have even more reason to be pissed than when those other shows were revealed. Really everyone's just fucking miserable and completely justified in their anger, talentless hacks notwithstanding.
No.997554
>>997520
What a rat-faced kike.
No.997557
>>997520
I knew Pan was a fucking faggot but I didn't think he would defend Calarts.
No.997560
>>997550
>these characters are supposed to be teenagers
No.997561
>>997557
His avatar has the beanmouth so it was expected that he would shill for his equals
No.997562
>>997516
>>997561
Looks like some retarded Mario OC.
No.997564
>>997562
Was just getting ready to say that he draws himself as an edgy toad OC designed by a 12 year old in 2006.
No.997565
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>997564
That would be his haters
skip to 17:11 if you want to see the only part of the video that is worth watching
No.997566
>>997557
>>997561
Same goes for his friends. How did you expect him not to defend calarts?
No.997568
>>997524
>I'd rather have wannabe anime than the calarts shit that dominates the market.
The CalArt showes are already wannabe animes.
These here are basic anime expressions
>>997078
>>997078
No.997569
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>997566
There's also this other faggot that depicts himself as a cute little girl with a ribbon on her hair when he has the voice of a grown-ass adult
No.997570
>>997565
>17 fucking minutes of defending nuPPG
>followed by an edgy execution of Pan's avatar
This guy is a bigger faggot than PanPizza.
>>997569
>playing shitty Steven Universe game footage in the background
>lol don't have opinions bro!
>t. faggoty mutt with a faggot cartoon avatar
>no one watched the Thundercats reboot! (they did, it just sucked)
>that means you can't be angry that they're making a shittier reboot in a worse style!
>a show didn't do well, that means no one wants an action and story-oriented series with aesthetically appealing animation
And this guy is a bigger faggot than the edgelord above him.
No.997576
>>997569
That voice does not fit that avatar.
No.997579
>>997569
>DON'T DO ANYHING BECAUSE IT WON'T MATTER IF YOU DO
No.997581
>>997570
You just forgot the biggest sin of the faggot on the second video, when he shits on Ed, Edd n Eddy because the characters "bully" each other
I bet he would love if the concept on pic related became real
No.997582
>>997578
They are even changing the skin color of the character to fit diversity quotas!
No.997584
>>997581
I barely knew who Pan Pizza was, now I hate him. Glad to see Danny's still on point all these years.
No.997586
>>997584
He was being ironic in that pic tho, he was just joking about EEnE being rebooted in the same fashion as nuppg
Him shilling for Thundercats Roar caught everyone by surprise
No.997587
>>997586
>Him shilling for Thundercats Roar caught everyone by surprise
He's a little like Mister Metokur in that way that whenever he gets too in-line with the common opinion, he spergs out and acts like a contrarian just so he can cause friction with random people.
No.997588
>>997586
How, has he made fun of the style before?
No.997611
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>997570
But it gets better!
>23:05
No.997631
Has Shmorky come out on one side or the other of Thundercatsgate?
He used to be the most savage regarding other cartoonists before his balls broke.
No.997633
>>997631
Didn't Shmorky molest some guy's kid or something? I'm surprised he's not in jail or something.
No.997640
No.997683
No.997691
>>997683
Not Shmorky, just a Purple Pussy reader who misses Dave Kelly.
No.997692
>>997579
JUST GIVE UP GOYIM
No.997719
>>997640
This guy sounds like a pedo.
No.997724
>>997566
I had no idea that Benthelooney was friends with pan. Panpizza really has no standards when it comes to people as long as they share the same opinion as him.
No.997819
>>997569
>JUST DON'T BOTHER TALKING ABOUT IT GUYS IT WON'T MATTER IF YOU DID
I fucking hate this attitude.
No.997822
>>997819
I love it because it lets you know straight up how assblassted they are. I enjoy knowing that my worthless internet posts helped shave off another day of some impotent faggot's life.
No.997861
>>997724
Sounds like this site.
No.997863
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No.997887
>>997640
More like vaguely familiar with him.
No.998250
Do you think we're headed for another small Renaissance period like the 90's/early 2000's was in response to 70's and 80's animation dark period, or will the industry just continue to regress?
No.998252
>>998250
I don't think we'll ever get another Renaissance period.
No.998253
>>998250
It will regress because the industry has structured itself in every possible manner to prevent progress.
No.998256
>>998253
This industry needs to crash.
No.998260
If you want another renaissance you must destroy the incestuous clique made up of trust fund babies who rule the industry. Only then will there be hope.
No.998305
>>997469
tl;dr, but saved.
No.998315
>>998256
WITH NO SURVIVORS
No.998360
>>997012
>visible breasts and thong on nuFaye
ABSOLUTELY PROBLEMATIC
No.998450
No.998455
>>997446
Bob is tall as heck and still has a bit of hair while Dobson is much more underdeveloped, so I think he must be the original
No.998458
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>997550
The character designs are slightly less disgusting now
I hope the series keep the cuckolding subplot just for shits and giggles
No.998459
>>998455
>5'6
Just when I thought he couldn't go any lower.
No.998463
>>998461
I can't tell if this ironic or not
No.998466
>>998463
It's Twitter, what do you think?
No.998468
>>998461
>that shameless soylo promotion
No.998469
>>998466
>>998463
Dammit I hoped it was ironic,I mean who the hell just advertises a movie in their opinion piece
No.998470
>>996641
>Redwood
Shit, I'd forgotten all about that mongoloid. It's been a helluva four years, hasn't it?
No.998471
>>998466
To be fair the whole
>capitalism sucks
>REMEMBER TO SUPPORT DISNEY
is confusing as shit.
No.998475
>>998470
Yes it has, and shit's really gone down the toilet in those four years.
No.998540
>>998458
The art style looks way more generic though, I would rather have the ugly artstyle than the "this is the same animation as every other cartoon network show" style.
No.998543
>>998469
>well animated
The intro is the only thing that they put effort into because they hired out a different studio to do it for them, and even then, it still looks like shit and there's no way this won't little like stale, flash animated shit once its aired. They've already shown a heavy overuse of tweening and digital transformation to squash and stretch characters, instead of adding smear frames and created a sense of motion and weight.
No.998544
>>998471
It really isn't. Stupid champagne socialists and Starbucks commies love giant companies like Disney and Apple because they acted as surrogate parents.
No.998545
>>998461
>>998462
They should have tried to make a TC: The Next Generation and use descendants of the original cast. Retain the TC universe but in a future time setting, aimed for a new audience but at the same time still be "new" while minimizing any possible damage to the old series.
No.998562
>>998558
Those eyes are genuinely unnerving.
No.998565
>>998563
I don't know. They don' look like they're looking forward at all.
No.998569
>>998458
Too bad that it still has every other thing that makes it look like another lolsoramdun series of the bunch
No.998570
>>998458
The creator of the show wears literally the same thing as the girl
do you guys think she fantasizes about cucking a beta incel with a chad?
No.998621
>>998469
>Shilling for Soylo
No.998629
Potato-niggers are a bastardized mix between Tezuka/other Disney influenced anime and rubberhose, but for some reason, I don't think it's the "style" that's the problem, but the over-saturation in recent media and the rather sterile nature of it. I feel little to no soul or personality coming from shows that use this style, but for some reason, I catch more "soul" from parodies of the Thundercats Roar promo images than actual potatoshit.
How's my attempt at emulating 'taters?
No.998648
>>998629
addendum.
Nope, I was probably wrong, it was the fucking style. The primary hallmark of this fucking shit's sterility, and if you're going the tumblr route, the addition of the desire for ugliness natural beauty, or at least grotesque exaggeration. What's the cure for this shit?
No.998652
>>998648
I think the problem with the style is that when something is devoid of edges it looks completely innofensive. It's the same logic behind the design of baby toys, they must be totally edgeless to prevent the babies to hurt themselves with them, and when this logic is applied on cartoons it looks like the target demographic is literally toddlers.
No.998712
>>997156
POST THE NEXT ONE , YOU SHIT! FINISH THE JOB , YOU PUSSY!
No.998718
>>998469
>He actually started whining about Capitalism
my sides.
No.998721
>>998459
>Just when I thought he couldn't go any lower.
>lower
I see what you did there.
>>997631
>imaginary dead people
What is he saying?
No.998722
I don't even care about Thundercats but it's really getting tiresome to see reboots where the creators just show their ass by shitting on fans. Seriously, what is so hard about just making your own series so it can actually be judged on it's own merits. Even if we ignore creators and shills shitting on anyone who calls their show bad or at least offers constructive criticism, the fact is, if you reboot a beloved show, it's ALWAYS going to be compared to the original. But we all know why they do this, it's almost down to a science. Pick a video game/show/whatever with a big cult following and then insert whatever trash they know will anger people, then they get free advertising from Youtubers and shills all the while they get to "punish" those evil male nerds. Why else would pics like >>998461 be here? These people just love being on the fucking high horse. Shitty bullies.
No.998723
>>998455
>The Chad Moviebob vs The Virgin Dobson
No.998726
>>997524
That means you don't like cartoons you dimwit!
No.998733
>>998469
Funny he mentioned 6 year olds, as one of my friends' 13/14 year old nephew saw the trailer and considered the new Thundercats just a series of bright colors to entertain 6 year olds. Meanwhile, his little brother was more engrossed in DBZ Xenoverse 2 to even look up.
I feel even those that make programming for toddlers strive better. Hell, some of THOSE actually have original characters.
No.998744
>>998250
Probably continue to regress until making cheap ass TT:GO Knock offs become unprofitable. I don't think it will recover in the 2020s or even the 2030s considering how most of the industry seems to just shove their heads up their own asses when criticism is brought up.That, and everyone has been trying their best to deny the current shit state of western animation.
Best case scenario we have a lot of cheapo TV animation, while every other platform gets the people with actual talent.
>>998469'-
<I mean who the hell just advertises a movie in their opinion piece
For extra "lol u mad nerds >:)" faggotry.
No.998754
How come whenever you criticize modern cartoons these calarts faggots always say that the 80's/90's were nothing but soulless toy commercial shit, and you only like cartoons from that era because of nostalgia? How is that suppose to make my criticism invalid?
No.998768
>>998754
Standards were different back then, the artsyle may be good but the animation would be mostly crap and everything else like the writing would be poor. then again these people are hypocrites.
No.998785
>>998754
While they are the same people to hop on the "remember the 80s/90s?!?!" bandwagon at any given opportunity. They made it their identity and they hate themselves.
No.998813
>>998754
I find funny how the Creator-driven art actually looks even more soulless that any other toy commercial
No.998814
>>998813
Its a reflection of the souls of the "people" who create them.
No.998815
>>998813
must be because toy designs must be appealing or else the kids won't beg for their parents to buy them
No.998836
>>997271
Oh there's more to it than balding.
Wearing your hair long has been a feature of nobility for many cultures. It means that you don't work for a living and don't have to worry about lice and fleas. But the problem is that when you donk a helmet on that noggin, the hair can get stuck or get in the way. Or steam the dome up. Sucks to drop from heat stroke in the middle of a battle, especially in a hot and wet environment. So the japs would shave the top of the head, and then use the rest of the long status hair as like a pillow for the helmet to sit on. It's goofy as fuck but many a thing in medieval was borne of practice.
No.998838
>>998836
>It's goofy as fuck to modern sensibilities
FTFY
No.998850
>>998754
Because if something was bad once, you have a free pass to make it bad forever.
No.998869
>>998754
I don't get how being a toy commercial is inherently a bad thing. A lot of them are still made by people who want to make an entertaining show. Look at Mighty Max. Sure it was made to sell boy Polly Pockets, but it still managed to be a good adventure show that had an overarching plot and didn't talk down to kids. Same thing with Digimon, which was made to sell digital pets and trading cards. Sunrise originally conceived Cowboy Bebop and Outlaw Star because Bandai wanted shows to help sell space ship models.
No.998870
>>998869
That's because it inherently isn't a bad thing.
No.998898
>>998869
you didn't mention the best example to why toyetic stuff can make good stories
No.999016
>>998869
"It's a toy commercial" isn't much of a criticism when toy commercials made shows like Transformers and Bionicle.
No.999042
>>998898
Or anything from the 80's
No.999065
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>998570
>>998594
She does not look like the type of person to create a cartoon like this.
>>998815
>>998869
>>999016
>must be because toy designs must be appealing or else the kids won't beg for their parents to buy them
That's the big thing about these shows, characters (as well as the adventures and challenges they face) have to be "cool" enough for a child to want engage in that world after the episode is over by playing with the toys.
When I see this >>998754, I could easily imagine these CY+3 creators saying they aren't 80's toy commercials cartoons and then start shilling Funko pops and hot topic t-shirts of their "characters."
Even then not every 80's cartoon was a toy sales success, Sky Commanders couldn't sell zipline using action figures (vid related). Visionaries lost out with it supposedly costly hologram gimmick on it's figures. Spiral Zone got 1 season of 65 episodes including 6 clip shows and another 3 episodes made entirely of recycled footage with new dialogue and it's toy line didn't last or even get all the characters made into figures. The toy ads (and cartoon opening credits) for Starcom: The US Space Force were action packed spaceship dogfights but the show certainly didn't consist of that.
No.999070
>>999065
Y'ever think that, more than anything else, is why Power Rangers still exists?
No.999072
it's a shame nobody really does a proper economic/materialist look at why things are the way they are in cartoons, vidya, etc, rather than just finding a just-so story about lazy people with bad ideas and wrong ideologies. even if you accept lazy people with bad ideas and wrong ideologies are being hired, looking behind at why a for-profit television company is hiring them is worthwhile. if TV companies wanted quality and had the cash to fund it, they could easily have it, even if it meant paying to fly Japanese teams over to the US. Clearly, they don't want it or can't afford it.
it would probably mean looking at some boring numbers though.
No.999088
>>999072
You're not the only econfag here. I've learned, discussed and compared the economics, regulations, and distribution systems of vidya, animation and other creative industries for a year on this site, and you're right in that the problem isn't that we have shit artists within the industry, it's the structure of the industry that incentives the actions we see. The reason we have generic cartoons is because advertisements and subscriptions are very inefficient at maximizing profit. The former relies on enough people being at their televisions at the right times to catch the latest airings of shows, which is lopsided against niche shows, and the latter can only make so much profit that it can't be reinvested in the creation of new content as well as keeping the production values of existing content high without other sources of funding like loans, which is why Netflix's catalog, especially animation, is of low quality - They're trying to fund the creation and upkeep of new and existing content with one source of revenue.
Television ratings have dropped as more people have cut the cord and looked towards streaming, Netflix's business model is unprofitable and unsustainable. And thus networks don't make content with high production values anymore, because they'd be running at a loss for the little profit they get, it just makes business sense to make the budgets of their content proportional to the amount of profit they receive.
Vidya doesn't have the problems the animation industry has because games are sold directly to the consumer, which means way more profit to reinvest, and any dev team around the world can publish a game globally on digital distribution platforms without intermediaries or gatekeepers. These two factors have created a highly competitive multibillion dollar industry surpassing Hollywood. And that's where the solution lies. To save the animation industry, creatives need global digital distribution platforms where they can publish and sell their content directly to the consumer. But animation isn't vidya, which is why there needs to be a reliable funding mechanism. There is an entertainment platform being developed called Singular DTV that let's creators fund their works by issuing shares of their IP in the form of tokens to attract investors looking to turn a profit and fans looking to support their favorite artists. It should be launching at the end of the year.
Animation won't stay stagnant in the 2020s or 2030s, rather, if the new platforms work, we'll have an animation renaissance that has never been nor ever will be again. We'll have a treasure trove of varied and creative works by studios from all over the world, vigorously competing with each other. The networks will go the way Sega did after they were driven out of the console market, and become studios competing on the new platforms. And Cal Arts will be a thing of the past.
No.999093
Anyone got some pre-2000's 'Calarts'/beanhead stuff?
No.999174
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>997569
he made a video response to the criticism he got and he looks like a even whinier faggot now
No.999236
>>999174
>22:30
yep, he definitely is being defensive about it because he also is a shitty artist
No.999242
>>999174
>Better than most youtube art styles
This is why he believes that Cal Arts is better? Because it's "better" than most art styles on Youtube?
No.999244
>>999174
>sure you can(complain about action cartoons dying)
>doesn't mean anything is gonna change
what a smug son of a bitch
No.999292
>>997578
This unironically hurts me.
God damn, shit like this is actually one of my worst fears.
No.999293
No.999294
>>999291
I'm no economist, but Netflix just throws money at anyone with a vague idea and and a recognizable enough name behind it.
No.999297
>>997506
>>997446
I seriously thought they were the same person for years. Never followed either one, just multiple posts on 8ch about their crap.
No.999301
>>997569
>Steven Universe mmorpg
>tumblr tier avatar
>The new reboot isn't bad after all
It's fucking narcissism at first sight.
>>997325
Based cuckanada speaks the truth!
>>999270
Nice to see Shadman decided to choose a better artstyle.
No.999304
>>998455
>moviebob is standing up
When did he lose one of his legs?
No.999317
>>999292
At least your fear is implausible anon, meanwhile the large majority of Cartoon Network, Disney and Nickelodeon cartoons are susceptible to getting CALARTS'D.
No.999350
>>998250
As far as televised animation goes? It will take at LEAST several years, and would require a total shift in the power structures of the animation industry, which I don't see happening soon.
It feels like Internet animation will be the one to bring quality animation to the forefront, bizarrely enough. Several amateur animators are regularly blowing professionals out of the water at this point.
No.999355
>>999317
The funny thing is that Touhou is pretty much a calarts/tumblr wet dream if it weren't explicitly Japanese. Be glad it's owned by an autistic drunkard with no intention of selling the rights because if anyone else made it we'd be knee deep in cheap adaptations by now.
No.999363
>>999355
That's not a relief for me anon, I don't really care for Touhou, no offense intended, but I do care about the cartoons of old, and I don't want to see their corpses get dug up and defiled.
No.999369
What's with all the soy in cartoons?
The first cartoon I saw while dicking around through the television was Steven Universe. I neglected to watch the summary blurb about the show and was greeted with the sight of a dozen "gems" each with their own soylent bottle. And the sound effect that played was absolutely horrifying. Coming from a /co/oncerned /co/mrade, it probably would have sounded like a soyboy crying, but when vocalized by a dozen of them, through crappy speakers, it sounds like hell, but worse, because there's crying soyboys.
And THEN when I started a new episode in a different season, a gem was ambushed in Beach City with Steven, as she was being harassed by four - you guessed it - soyboys. My suspicions about the messed up sound effect was proven right. They proceeded to get soy'd by four measly numale-tier soyboys because their starting gear is a few sharp gemstones and the slowest gem power on all the continents.
And THEN when they went into Gem Homeworld to test out the combat in an arena, they stumbled into the wrong place, the "fight pit". Where numales and - you guessed it - soyboys fought for the gems' entertainment and tumblr purposes. And THEN Steven spoke to some of the spectators, whose only dialogue was to chant the name of their "champion" - and too many of whom chose the - you guessed it - "Soyboy!!! Soyboy!!! Soyboy!!!".
5/7 cartoon.
No.999370
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>>996393
>tfw this anon likely was just perusing the Internet.
>>996641
>>996466
Kill yourselves.
No.999371
>>997012
Even ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
Holy FUCK that is abhorrent.
No.999372
>>997081
I like Star Butterfly because she's 15.
No.999374
>>999373
O-only 2D, a-anon sir.
No.999377
>>999376
Well, being only half a body, I can't move very far. Looks like this sick individual won…for now.
No.999382
>>999291
>>999294
Netflix's own executives admit it's very costly to create successful original content, and the expensive content they do create doesn't increase subscription growth, because it is or eventually becomes low-quality due to the lack of a reliable stream of revenue (subscriptions) to reinvest in higher production value. Netflix constantly has to go into debt to finance new content to keep up with their ever increasing content obligations to justify their overvalued stock price.
When a company has to use outside sources of funding instead of their own revenue to finance new content that generates little to no profit, that's unsustainibillity, and it's why their catalog is so shitty. They don't have that much money to throw around to begin with, so what they produce is utter crap.
No.999383
>>998250
>80s
You mean 60s?
No.999418
>>999382
> and it's why their catalog is so shitty
I'm pretty sure their catalog would be terrible regardless because the people running movies and television are allergic to effort and craftsmanship.
No.999427
>>998652
I suppose I should add more to why I see this shit as sterile. There's hardly any difference between the background and the characters themselves, as they use the same fucking uniform lines. There's just no personality, or minimal personality whimpering from the designs
No.999431
>>999427
I had once heard an old man describe hysterical female thoughts as "a bunch of formless bullshit just wobbling around and occasionally congealing into something coherent" which I think describes the look perfectly.
No.999434
>>999384
Why is Cirno a nigger now?
No.999435
>>999301
>Nice to see Shadman decided to choose a better artstyle.
Don't even joke about that shit you nigger.
No.999446
>>999270
>that chromatic aberration
He couldn't help himself, uh?
No.999456
Aren't you proving their point?
No.999459
>>999456
>Wanting the best for the children of today and the future is a bad thing
No.999474
>>998718
You think soyboys will ever figure out that cartoons, comics, video games and everything else their fatasses enjoy can only exist in capitalist societies?
No.999475
No.999482
>>999459
>everyone should work for free for reasons
What are you? A fucking commie?
No.999483
>>999482
I'm not sure if this is bait, but that's not what I said or implied at all.
No.999487
>>999474
They could maybe exist under a monarchy.
No.999488
>>999474
Funny how the one singular commie game is something none of them even pretend to give a shit about.
No.999490
>>999487
And how exactly is that supposed to work?
No.999500
>>999490
A monarch funds an entertainment production to celebrate his glory.
No.999505
>>999459
>wanting the children to become pseudo otaku pseudo waifufags with fake-ass Anime imitations ala 2003 teen titans.
No.999510
>>999505
Anime imitation or not, it was good in its own right, and it's certainly better than most of the shit that's come out this decade.
No.999520
>>997525
>Banned from twitter
Jesus, Dobson has most likely killed himself seeing how twitter was the only thing in his life.
No.999522
>>997557
Remember Pan is trying to make it into the industry. I know deep down that he hates the artstyle with a passion but you know, got to prevent on stepping on toes now.
It's a shame though as I know the Pan from two years ago would have mocked such a shitshow
No.999524
>>999522
Why bother trying to get into a dying industry though?
No.999525
>>999486
>argue against cause and effect with vidya
>argue for cause and effect with loli
This is cognitive dissonance. How can media both cause something and not cause something?
No.999526
>>999525
That's because it doesn't.
No.999527
>>999304
Wait Bob has only one leg now?
No.999574
>>999486
>Humans can't REALLY separate fantasy from reality!
That's the baseline diagnosis for schizophrenia, anon.
No.999581
>>999434
due to various reasons she lost her weakness to warm weather and finally got a tan
No.999588
>>999583
That would be a waste of life, the person in your pic should be killed instead.
No.999589
>>999588
Fair enough. Niggers that defend shitty art that ignores what objectively makes a good art piece because "it's my art style" are the absolute worst.
No.999594
So someone threatened to shoot up Calarts.
Which one of you did it?
No.999615
>>999474
Comics did exist in communist countries. Poland and Yugoslavia produced decent amount of them especially starting from 1960s and on, after commies calmed down over there a bit. Rosinski, co-creator of Thorgal, started his career in commie era Poland. He went to Belgium in his 30s.
Granted, Poland and Yugoslavia had more freedom than most countries within U.S.S.R.'s sphere of influence.
>>999456
That image just hurts to look at. This is not a left hook, hand is oddly turned, and looks like perspective is fucked up. I know that none of the faggots who worked on the cartoon were ever in a physical fight or involved in martial arts, but haven't they read an action comic or seen a decent action film made either?
No.999618
>>999594
Who is this someone?
No.999622
>>999594
Gonna need proof.
No.999634
>>999594
But why? Destroying CalArts isn't the solution. Ensuring the financial failure of everything it produces and encouraging the financial success of other works is.
What even made CalArts turn into this TC:R and Stephen Universe shitshow it is right now? I remember the big thing with CalArts around the 2012-2016 mark was everyone mimicking Glen Keane's art. That's what all the CalArts and Tumblr kids were drawing. What went wrong? At least then they were producing art with some standard of quality to it.
No.999657
>>999594
please do it
/co/ deserves a better hero than tranny phantom
No.999665
>>998813
because when you make a toy commecial, you have to answer before people funding the show and the audience, so you go above and beyond to appease them for additional funds = more money in your pocket if everything goes well
the "creator driven shows" are reigned by some buffon who thinks he/she's a god's gift to humanity just because he made some slightly entertaining doodles and everyone needs to jump around him/her. this worked back then because you had autistic but hard working people with good ideas, but not anymore when your creators are entitled privileged hacks
No.999666
>>999505
children are growing up watching creepy elsa/spiderman cartoons and manchildren playing horror games and minecraft
this isn't even the issue of "muh older cartoons are better than your newfangled cartoons", it's either you provide your kids quality cartoons, be it anime or cartoons you used to watch, or they're stuck with youtube poop tier garbage and eternal Teen Titans Go
No.999699
>>999418
Because their industries are cartels. They don't incentivize effort and craftsmanship because making quality movies and shows mean competition, and competition means spending capital to get an advantage over each other to attract the most consumers. It's not that there are no good creators, it's that the incentives of the industry are lopsided against them. The costs of making an interesting, but expensive show or movie far exceeds the amount of profit that would be made because they use archaic inefficient distribution and business models (theaters, subscriptions, advertisements, television) that put barriers between consumers and creators and homogenizes the kinds of content that could be made.
Competition is what's lacking in film, television, and animation. And as long as it's not present, expect those industries to get far worse than they are now.
No.999744
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
Reminder that Scott Pilgrim started the CalArts trend
No.999745
Someone made a joke about shooting up Calarts, and this somehow got back to the school who canceled for today.
No.999747
>>999745
>Gaymergator posts two memes
>Cali uni get's shut down
Amazing
No.999748
>>999745
It amazes me how accurately cyberpunk managed to predict the future.
No.999751
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>decide to rewatch Batman:TAS and its sequels for the hell of it
>first episode
>that shading
>that animation
>that playful but kind of mature tone
>that voice acting
>colors that aren't pastel looking
Someone tell me I'm living under a rock and there's a whole industry making stuff on this level of quality in our current age.
No.999753
>>999751
Quality is no longer the criteria to sell products thanks to marketing and the internet.
No.999754
No.999758
>>999753
>>999754
There has to be something, right? The Castlevania netflix show isn't what I'd call good but it was a pretty nice visual treat, there has to be some obscure french or euro studio making decent animations out there.
No.999759
>>999758
Nope. Even anime doesn't have that kind of animation and shading anymore. It died when everything became digital.
No.999765
>>999763
>>999764
Why are you trying to start shit on a thread that's about to hit bump limit? No one mentioned the quality of anime, just that animation and art have degraded.
No.999767
>>999745
>>999747
Maybe if this is done in an often enough basis we'll really fuck them up.
No.999775
>>999744
Pretty much. That shit was when I first really started noticing the whole fake nerd trend and when I really started hating Canadians.
No.999786
>>999745
>I got threatened you can pls stop critiquing my shitty artstyle :^(
No.999805
>>999665
>the "creator driven shows" are reigned by some buffon who thinks he/she's a god's gift to humanity just because he made some slightly entertaining doodles and everyone needs to jump around him/her. this worked back then because you had autistic but hard working people with good ideas, but not anymore when your creators are entitled privileged hacks
I think we should call this the student film paradox
No.999811
>>999805
There really isn't anything paradoxical about it.
No.999815
>>999805
>student film paradox
>not Kricfalusi syndrome
No.999821
>>999594
THIN LINES AREN'T FUNNY
BEANMOUTHS AREN'T FUNNY
No.999840
>>999744
Nah, Scott Pilgrim's art evolved and had a weird growth period for the second half of book 3 until around half-way through book five. Where things look CalArts as shit and suffers from awful same face. Which this video and the original comic come from. It mostly fixes itself in the final book. CalArts started with Adventure Time.
No.999867
>>999745
>I know, I'll pretend I was going to shoot up their school! That'll show them!
No.999938
>>999618
>>999745
Shooting up Calarts won't result in anything good the people responsible for this potato face are already in the workplace, it could wind up killing students who actually make decent art. Also it will possibly "martyr" Calarts style.
>>999666
Interesting digits Satan.
That creepy elsa/spiderman stuff on YouTube has been getting more mainstream attention and is being dealt with apparently.
No.1000021
>>999759
> when everything became digital
See that's what baffles me; digitalization should have turned making quality cartoons with shading & lighting into a piece of cake, so artists can push the envelope further without the inconvenience of cel animation. But what happened is quality degraded since animation became digital, accessibility encouraged laziness and instead of there being competition over quality it became over who can churn out as many episodes as possible in little time with little to no content.
No.1000102
>>999088
God I hope you're right.
No.1000110
>>1000021
>B-BUT THERE ARE STILL GOOD ANIME OUT THERE YOU FUCKING BIGOT YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK FOR THEM!!!!!
>WAAAAAAAA I WANT MY 02 DAKI STOP HURTING MY FEELINGS!!!!!!!
Hahaha, fucking shills BTFO without a fight. One of the most based posts on this board.
No.1000290
>>1000110
…what are you going on about?
No.1000303
>>1000290
Vols deleted about 30 or so posts in the other calarts thread from this sperg. Must've missed this one or just don't care since it's at the bump limit.
No.1005380
>>997578
Looks too abstract, needs more of that flat minimalist soy
No.1010198
>>1005380
>trying to sage a thread past bump limit
nigger wtf are you doing