No.990276
This will be a longform storytime going through Venom's entire history in as quickly and succinctly a way as is possible. Grab your chocolate bars and skateboards, we're gonna gets 90s up in here.
No.990282
But before we get 90s, we're gonna have to get 80s.
Welcome to 1985, Welcome to Secret Wars!
This was the first ever appearance of the Symbiote.
No.990291
Spidey and the Symbiote went on a lot of adventures together, but as you will see in this issue, their relationship didn't last.
No.990301
And like that, Peter thought he had killed a sentient lifeform that only wanted the best for him. He didn't seem to lose any sleep over it either.
No.990307
>>990298
Typically I wouldn't spoonfeed, but Venom's history can be a bit overwhelming to newfags and I think that's one of the reasons a lot of people hate the character, they end up missing some of the most important comics that define both Brock and the Symbiote, and they end up just reading the trash which leaves a bad taste in their mouth.
No.990310
Between the symbiote's "death" in the bell tower, and Venom's coming arrival, there were a few mysterious attempts on Peter's life that left him unsettled. These attacks never alerted his spider-sense.
No.990311
Finally, in 1988, we got our first glimpse of this mysterious figure that even Spidey couldn't see coming.
No.990313
The figure decided to pay Mary Jane a visit, and that my friends, is when the legend of Venom truly began.
No.990314
Coming home to a traumatized Mary Jane, Peter finally realizes that he's dealing with a new type of threat.
No.990315
It doesn't take him long to realize that maybe his old symbiote friend isn't actually dead.
No.990322
With that we conclude the first appearance of Venom. From this issue we learn a lot about Eddie and the Symbiote's motivations, we also see the first hints of what will come to define the character in later years. His distaste for harming the innocent, his strange sense of justice, his desire to do good, his twisted form of spirituality.
In his first appearance Venom is absolutely a villain, but as you'll see, it doesn't take long for him to grow out of that role.
No.990323
One year later, we see Venom make his first escape from the vault.
No.990324
Eddie ends up catching a ride with a very friendly family of innocents.
No.990325
>>990307
That's the problem with comics in general. Character histories are spread out over decades of comics that all have different titles and tie-ins.
No.990326
On their way to New York, the family decides to stop at a diner for a little bit of food. Things take a turn for the worst, and this where we first start to see the complexity of Venom as a character.
Venom in the Truckstop of Doom
No.990327
After saving the family, Venom returns to his mission in life, killing Spider-Man.
No.990329
The virgin reporter VS the Chad symbiote.
No.990330
>>990329
Eddie looks exactly like the chad cartoon
No.990331
Back in New York, Venom makes the sewers his base of operations.
No.990333
Black Cat getting VENOMED.com
No.990336
I really love the panel of Venom tearing the dead cow carcass in half. I don't know why more fights don't take place in meat packing factories.
No.990342
>>990336
>I really love the panel of Venom tearing the dead cow carcass in half. I don't know why more fights don't take place in meat packing factories.
Too bad the visuals suffer a lot because they weren't willing to really go all out showing an animal being torn in half.
No.990453
No.990567
I can't believe I'm genuinely excited for a fucking Sony movie.
Anyway, great job, OP.
No.990579
>>990567
>I'm excited for a movie about a villain who's entire origin is based off interacting with a superhero who won't be in the movie at all
No.990632
>>990579
>Venom
>villain
Pick one, normalfag.
No.990634
>>990567
>>990453
We've still got a lot of ground to cover, friends. I'm going to take us all the way up to the point where the new series by Donny Cates is supposed to begin.
No.990635
In this issue we see Eddie's refusal to harm Aunt May who he views to be innocent. This plot point will be revisited much later in one of my favorite Eddie stories, The Last Temptation of Eddie Brock.
No.990639
Once again Peter decides to emotionally abuse the Symbiote. You will see that this often his go to strategy when it comes to dealing with Venom.
No.990641
1990, Venom breaks out of prison again.
From Amazing Spidey 331
No.990651
I think this is the first time that Venom and Spidey fight together, albeit ever so breifly.
No.990653
One year later in 1991, we meet Cletus Kasady for the first time.
No.990666
Next comes one of my all time favorite comics featuring Venom.
No.990668
Venom vs Spider-Man, No Distractions!
No.990673
A happy ending for everyone.
No.990707
No.990763
>>990732
The writer who created him is the writer who turned him into an anti-hero. Literally every comic posted so far is written by Michelinie, including Truckstop of Doom
>>990326
He was always intended to become more than a villain. Literally every appearance he's in shows that. Just admit that something about his character inherently triggers you and that you have always hated him.
No.990769
>>990768
>whored out character
What does that even mean?
No.990825
>>990769
It means if a character is popular you're not allowed to like them.
No.990851
>>990646
Last pic, top right panel. Venom's head is completely fucked up.
>>990763
>The writer who created him is the writer who turned him into an anti-hero.
He's clearly an anti-villain. His entire point is to be a bad guy, but with enough heroic traits in there that it's surprising and interesting. He only became an "anti-hero" once he had his own comics.
No.990868
>>990851
>he only became an anti-hero once he had his own comics
wow, no way, that definitely means he should have stayed a villain
No.990869
>>990868
Except they didn't have to change The Punisher at all when they gave him his own comic. They had to give a reason for Venom to stop having his autistic hate-boner for Spiderman to get him to actively save innocent lives. Until they did that, he would just save innocents if he happened to come across something bad happening to him.
No.990871
>>990869
They didn't change Venom at all either, having him temporarily make a truce with Spider-Man isn't fundamentally altering the character. If you actually read his comics you would see that he is willing to truce with Spider-Man, but Spider-Man doesn't allow it because Peter is a prick. This was going on long before he got his own comics.
Venom haters always choose to ignore the fact that Peter was a massive asshole to the Symbiote and consistently perpetuated Venom's hatred for him by being a backstabbing asshole at every turn.
No.990872
>>990871
Jesus christ, no wonder you're the laughing stock of this entire board
No.990875
>>990872
Refute a single thing I said. If other anons hate me for loving a comic book character and doing storytimes to try to get other people to appreciate the character as well, then oh well, that's life.
No.990876
>>990875
>Refute a single thing I said
>Venom haters always choose to ignore the fact that Peter was a massive asshole to the Symbiote and consistently perpetuated Venom's hatred for him by being a backstabbing asshole at every turn.
Because that didn't happen once in the giant story time you posted, it's nothing but Venom being a psychopath who will happily kill innocents if they get in the way of him killing Spiderman. Him sometimes saving people unrelated to his hatred-boner doesn't make him a hero, it makes him slightly-less of a fucking psychopath.
No.990877
>>990871
Venomfags prove once again that they are the faggiest of fags.
No.990878
>>990876
>happily kill innocents
He's never killed any innocents. Cops and guards aren't real people, they don't count.
No.990879
No.990881
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>990879
Guy probably is a bootlicker and thinks there's nothing questionable in this video.
No.990885
Credits page for new Venom comic, glad Marvel is finally getting on board with the fact that Spidey is the real villain.
No.991154
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>>991127
CIDF pls go. Let people have their catharsis in comics
No.991241
>>991127
>unironically supporting the zogbots of america in 2018
They kill more white men than black men, and they abuse all citizens when they get the chance, but go ahead, be an edgy MAGApede and cheer on the cops who would gladly stomp on your throat.
No.991242
For a long time readers thought that was the last they'd see of Eddie Brock and his alien friend, but then something horrible happened, Carnage arrived.
No.991252
No.991276
>>991247
I now actually have a mild respect for Carnage as a character. He's not as worthlessly boring as I thought.
No.991289
>>991276
What led you to believe he was a bad character before?
No.991290
I think this is one of the saddest moments in Venom's history, they were happy and living in paradise thinking they were done with violence, only to find that the monster who ruined their lives was still alive and their life in paradise was a lie.
No.991291
So many great panels of Venom from Bagley during this era.
No.991296
I miss when comics were this exciting. When you cared about the characters and the stakes felt real. Great art, great writing, great pacing, great characters, great everything.
No.991300
>>991289
"Hey look it's evil Spiderman" is usually the extent of how he's depicted. Like in >>991296, the whole issue is just him being evil because he likes being evil. Most times he appears this is about all you get. It's pretty boring as far as villains go. Carnage clearly exists because people liked Venom, but they wanted him even eviler because writing a character who's motivations extend beyond "Save all the people" or "Kill all the people" hurts comic writers' brains.
No.991302
>>991300
That isn't why Carnage was invented at all. Michelinie specifically created Carnage as a commentary on the direction villains in the superhero genre were going in, he's a caricature meant to mock characters like the edgy modern day version of the Joker and other villains like that who just go around slaughtering people, that's why in Maximum Carnage he's defeated by the power of love or whatever.
He's not supposed to be an evil spider-man, he's meant to be show that serial killers aren't interesting or compelling, they're just sick and need to be stopped.
No.991307
Betrayed once more. Never trust a Spider.
No.991309
>>991302
Him specifically being created to be a boring character doesn't change the fact that he's a boring fucking character/
No.991312
>>991309
He wasn't created to be a character, he was created to be a plot device through which we see interesting sides of the people interacting with him. If you think he's bad because he lacks depth then you misunderstand his purpose.
No.991314
Now for a flashback story:
Venom: First Kill
No.991437
>>991431
>cops consistently abuse their power
>"haha, y u mad, lol, #bluelivesmatter!"
No.992176
>eddie
>greatest success ever is a total fucking lie
>spider-man accidentally reveals the lie in the process of saving lives
>eddie gets what he deserves for being a dishonest journalist
<reeeeee i gotta kill spider-man!
>symbiote
>decieve spider-man into thinking you're just a special costume
>all the while constantly working to parasitize and control his mind and body
>spider-man finds out, naturally gets rid of the deceitful parasitic alien
<b-b-b-baka, it's not like I w-wanted to paeasitize you anyway, now I'll kill you because you hurt my feelings!
>spider-man
>oh shit this venom guy wants to kill me for no good reason
>oh shit he's stronger than me and I can't fight him
>oh shit I don't wanna die
<better use some slight of hand to non-lethally beat this faggot and stay alive
>brockfags
<reeeeee spider-man is in the wrong for not just letting that psychopath murder him reeeeeeeeeee!
The fact that OP thinks this thread makes Venom look good is a very insightful glance into the mind of a brockfag. Venom's conduct against Spider-Man is beyond unreasonable, and in terms of likability his "muh innocents" moral code does not even come close to outweighing the sheer childishness of his motivations.
No.992803
Honestly go read so of agent venom if you want a good take oh the symbiote especially carnage USA otherwise it’s boring as fuck to see eddy wander around being a “anti-hero”.
Eddy is ok as anti-venom and shit as venom, carnage is the best symbiote villain and flash is the best heroic symbiote… kinda wish toxin was still around tho
No.992941
>>992176
>>992803
Flash-fags are the normalfags of symbiote fans. They deserve to be ostracized and forgotten.
No.992961
Eddie cucks are old washups hoping for some success from the same loser that went from being venom, to wanting to kill him, to being toxin, to trying to capture venom again. Dudes an addict to symbiote dick and he loves to take and gives us nothing but boring monologue. Agent venom and mania was a breath of fresh air, space knight kinda sucked though
No.992964
Did John Jameson ever get a symbiote, like in the cartoon where he becomes Venom?
No.993011
Why does Erik Larsen draw both Peter and Eddie looking like Ernest Borgnine?
No.993776
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No.995123
No.995166
>>995123
Fuck off, killjoy.
No.995281
>>991307
I understand that Eddie is still trying to kill Peter, but that was such a cunt move. Holy shit, Peter.
No.995292
>>995281
So fucking what? Eddie terrorised MJ, showed up at Aunt May's house, he made it personal.
If it had been me, I would have killed Eddie, dissolved him and the suit in acid, and poured them into the sewer.
No.995295
>>995292
He only did that to get to Peter. He also stated that he'd never harm aunt may and he was shown to go out of his way to protect the "innocent". Don't get me wrong, he's still a murderer and Peter would never actually kill him or anyone else from his rogue gallery.
>>995292
>dissolved him and the suit in acid, and poured them into the sewer.
That sounds closer to what the punisher would do. Peter isn't that much of an edgelord and it looked like Venom could actually be rehabilitated. Venom does eventually make peace with Spiderman. Venom even comes to Spiderman for help against Carnage and Peter initially refuses. It's like wtf Peter. He fails to see the bigger picture. Brock getting amnesia was retarded too
No.995634
No.997048
No.997135
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
always knew spider-man 3 (and iron man 2) got flak because people can't handle the mirror
No.997143
>>997135
The biggest issue with Spider-man 3 is that it tried to do way to much for the time it was given. You can't focus on 3 villains and the internal struggles of a hero in 2 hours and not make the thing feel rushed as fuck. Really, cutting out Sandman and giving us more Venom would have fixed a lot.
No.997375
>>997143
That or just splitting it into 2 films and the first part should end in the church with the symbiote dripping off of Peter and onto Eddie Brock becoming Venom.
No.997447
>>991295
>that little batman symbol on the fridge
Someone's 'avin' a giggle.
No.998041
No.1008626
Thanks for the storytime, OP. It was pretty good actually, and not as edgy as many people make Venom up to be.
No.1008701
>>990301
That is really sad and kinda fucked up.
No.1008703
Am I the only one who prefers MvC venom to movie Venom?
No.1008705
No.1008707
>>1008701
you're sad and fucked up, baka. why dont you get a job and a gf?
No.1016590
who else thinks carnage should be considered a red costume with unstable black "veins", not just a red costume with usually badly drawn shading?
No.1019227
>>1016590
I thought that's how Carnage has always been portrayed. Red, black veins, teeth are part of the suit.
No.1025484
We need to get this going again.
No.1028128
No.1030602
Spider-Man Special Edition:
The Trial of Venom!
No.1030606
Next, I'll be back with the time when Venom teamed up with Wolverine in Wolverine's own book!
No.1030710
No.1030796
Why is Peter such a dick to him?
He's normally the kind of guy to see good in anyone, but he just shits all over Venom.