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Probably because they wanted to ape the style of the other Themyscirians, who did use swords and shields because they didn't have the God-blessed weapons Diana was given. They can give her a sword and have her lead the warriors, which looks cooler than using a lasso to start a charge.

Also, from a movie standpoint, it's easier to choreograph sword fights than a sword vs rope fight, which would be much harder to pull off without stupid amounts of CGI and reshoots.

>Did everyone just completely forget that Wonder Woman is supposed to be a peacekeeper whose main shtick is love and that DC's Amazons are supposed to be a peaceful society as per Marston's original concept?

Marston's original concept doesn't sell merchandise, so instead of BDSM Wonder Woman stands for "girl power" that's vaguely defined (and rebranded constantly) in order to be as marketable as possible. Characters like Batman and Superman had big, continuous runs from conception all through the 60s and 70s leading to what the "modern" version is supposed to be, but Wonder Woman gets put on a shelf and dusted off when editorial decides they want a "wider audience".

The only defining run that Wonder Woman's had is Marston's, and no-one is allowed to draw from that because it's too sexy/weird/interesting to be packaged as SuperHero the Movie™: Girl Edition™. Wonder Woman changes all the time because she's literally just filler there to make up numbers. She's padding which Gal Gadot looks like she needed.

>>988490

>When did Wonder Woman suddenly start using a sword and shield so prominently?

Kingdom Come started it.

>>988508

I'd argue that George Perez was the one who planted the seeds for it with the Post-Crisis reboot, when he made Themyscira into a generic, Greek-myth-inspired matriarchal warrior society instead of the sci-fi kumbaya society that had only the loosest ties to Greek myth that it was before. To put it another way, he basically stripped away anything that made Wonder Woman comics even remotely entertaining. It was pretty much inevitable though, since DC has never had a single fucking clue on what to do with WW. Perez's reboot is the closest that they ever came to having one consistent vision for the character, even if he did completely neuter her mythos.

swrd is cooler than not sword

How is anyone supposed to believe this Jewish stick insect can carry and swing a sword and shield?

I miss the Lasso and Bracelets. They seem a lot more original than just a regular sword and shield.

>>988567

embed related had a wonderful choreography. Sword & shield were mixed with lasso and wrestling. Even the tiara was used to headbutt a fury.

I'm not overly familiar with Wonder Woman runs, but my first thought was Greg "Lesbian Porn Aficionado" Rucka runs. He seemed to really ramp up the angle that Wonder Woman was a killer.

>>988567

I miss her tiara boomerang.

>implying you can keep the peace without a sword

pfft, fag

As far as non-comic appearances go the trend started in Injustice 1 where she had two stances, one with her lasso and otherwise unarmed, the other with the sword and shield. The sword and shield stance was totally worthless.

George Perez was the first to have her use swords and shields regularly, but, yeah, Kingdom Come was the first to outfit her like a Spartan.

>>988567

I am not sure if that could be well made in a live action movie, specially against guns and machine guns.

>>988748

Sure it can, it's just an excuse that sword and shield fetishists use to have WW use them.

There's absolutely no reason for WW to use conventional weapons in her standard arsenal. None. If she happens to pick something up in the heat of battle, like Batman, and then discard it afterwards, OK, that's acceptable. But this modern retardation has got to stop.

>>989082

What the fuck, there's an actual Wonder Woman fan?

Does she still have an invisible plane (actually it was more of a transparent plane, you could see her speeding through the air in a seated position), or is that considered "too cheesy"?

DC could always "Wakanda" the Amazon island and say they have VTOL, hypersonic aircraft with perfect stealth, to modernise the concept.

>>989323

I don't think the plane's been seen since Crisis.

Of course, since the reboot she can fly, so it's not like she needs it.

>>989370

Yep.

>>988715

I thought the point of that was she only ever brought the sword out when shit hit the fan. Otherwise she'd just use the lasso and her bracelets.

>>988567

"But they're too silly"

>>989370

Yes

>>989335

>I don't think the plane's been seen since Crisis.

Apparently there were two attempts to bring back the plane post-Crisis. The first time was when John Byrne actually gave it a origin during his run: the Invisible Plane was actually a sentient alien lifeform capable of morphing into other vehicles. It ended up in the hands of Hippolyta (as the WW of the '40's, long story) and then Diana, both of them unaware of its sentience until it was manipulated into attacking Diana. It "died" saving people from a tidal wave during Greg Rucka's run and couldn't transform into anything besides a plane

The other time is after the One Year Later timeskip, where Batman just gave her a fucking stealth plane.

>>989893

The one from Justice League Crisis on Two Earths always seemed to make the most sense to me.

>>988490

This is the great hyped female hero movie but face it, the movie was still really shit and not as feminist as people make it up to be. "LUL what do women know about politics AMIRITE guuuys she just uses eye for an eye logic so empowering! Stupid men! Oh and the holocaust didn't happen! HILARIOUS it's not politics or society's fault, it was Ares all along! HURR!"

I tell you, once Cpt Marvel comes out, it will fuck this movie right in the ass, like everything Marvel does.

>>990446

And you know why? It won't even mention gender shit. It will just have a female protagonist, everyone is joking around and they'll just roll with it. That's how you handle it, not even mentioning the exception.

>>990448

The problem is, like all of Marvel's flicks, it's going to be bad for writing reasons instead.

>>988527

I always wondered how would the Amazons progress from the Greek stuff to modern technology. It seems fascinating how they would do that. It seems kind of wasted potential to not explore that.

>>988601

Lasso wasn't used until the end, and even then, not really that well. Just to bind one arm at the end. All the good bits were more in line with a rope dart/rope javelin/meteor hammer. It is more about the weight at the end. It also showcases why DC uses the animation companies they do, perfect blend of east meets west.

What I find puzzling is how they have all these athletic, fit looking women on Themyscira and then they cast a jewish stick figure to play wonder woman.

>>999023

They'll never make a ww movie in ww2.

>>999040

They already did, with the usual "make a WWII movie but call it WWI" approach

>>999419

ballpark a little over 6 foot, if the fact she's about as tall as superman is any indication

Lassos aren't cool.

>>990446

It wasn't even the first female super hero movie, but who cares about facts, right?

>>1000292

>It wasn't even the first female super hero movie

out of interest, what was?

>>1000295

Probably Supergirl.

>>1000387

Also phallic.

Phalluses are everywhere, anon. You cannot escape them. It's called 'The Patriarchy™®'.

>>1000454

there was a Powergirl movie?