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>>974769

Those ideas sound terrible, is Gaiman that short of cash he needs these unnecessary sequels?

>>974803

he's certainly that short of ideas. he hasn't an original one in over a decade

"Hey, this one thing was popular because it had an interesting idea, quality art and writing and is a complete story"

"Obviously, to replicate this success we need to give it a fuckload of unwanted, unending sequels"

>>974770

>Si Spurrier

Faggot behind new Shadow and some of the worst Judge Dredd.

>Nalo Hopkinson

Novelist who never wrote a comic and focuses on post-colonial and African-American themes.

>Dan Watters

Another writer involved with the most recent Shadow series.

>Kat Howard

Gaiman's crony, a fairly inexperienced writer with two novels with generic premises under her belt. Never wrote a comic before.

It will most likely be shit. Only good think about it so far is Bilquis Evely. He is a decent artist, but will probably be wasted on the nu-Shadoow hack's story.

>>974934

>so he probably needs rent money.

more like rentboy money but yeah

>>974960

>>974962

With Berger gone and Len Wein dead, I was actually hoping DC would leave the horror hosts alone. That was naive on my part.

What's the reading order for Sandman?

I downloaded what I believe to be the entire works, but was confused by all the side stories.

Should it be main series > spin-offs or main series and spin-offs as they come up, ala chronological order.

It won't go well

>>975093

In general it's best to read the spinoffs after the main series. They don't interact with each other (and take place anachronistically), so you won't get confused, but since they were made after or during the main series run, they expect you to already be familiar with the world/characters/rules.

Read the main series (TPBs 1-10, issues 1-75) and Endless Nights, The Dream Hunters, and Overture afterwards if you want more. They're fully standalone, but make references to concepts mentioned all over the main series.

There's the two Death standalone spinoffs, The High Cost of Living and The Time Of Your Life, who both happen after the main series. You should at least have read up to TPB 5, A Game Of You, for those. Dream: At Death's Door is a different perspective retelling of TPB 4, Season of Mists. The Little Endless Storybook can take place at any moment after TPB 7, Brief Lives.

The Dreaming is a direct sequel with minor characters from the main series in the spotlight. Read the whole main series first if you're tackling this one.

Lucifer takes place after TPB 4 (Season of Mists), but after that can be read at any time.

For completion's sake I'll mention that The Sandman makes a few blink-and-you'll-miss-it references to Alan Moore's run on Swamp Thing, but you're not missing anything of value if you haven't read it.

ECCC 2018 Vertigo panel attendees were given free digital codes for Neil Gaiman's The Sandman #1-75. That's all from there.

>>975167

Overture is also the only good Sandman prequel.

>>975340

>Turning to the future of Vertigo, Doyle referred back to a teaser released last July at Comic-Con International in San Diego, which read “080818.” It refers to the date of August 8, 2018, the launch of the Sandman Universe. Doyle said this marks the start of the next era of Vertigo. This led to a video featuring Neil Gaiman discussing the new imprint.

>“It’s all going to start in the [Sandman Universe one-shot], which will introduce spaces beyond the Dreaming,” Gaiman said. “It’s going to introduce a new House, called the House of Whispers. Following the special, we’re going to be introducing four new series, written and drawn by the most incredible collaborators I could ask for.”

>Cards were passed out to attendees of the session, with a digital code to redeem digital copies of all 75 issues of the original run of Sandman. With that, Doyle wrapped the panel.

A next era all right. An era of zombification for their corporate overlords.

>>975420

>An era of zombification for their corporate overlords.

The Gentry won bro.

I didn't even like Ouverture because the artist took like 4 months between issues and then every issue had absolutely nothing interesting besides a few lines of dialogue.

The whole thing about Sandman being successful was about Gaiman having complete control about the story, the happenings and, this is important, the ending.

Making the whole series come back from the dead is just sad and giving it to another writer on top of that? Just terrible.

The high point of the series was Morpheus dying and nothing will ever come close to that because writers nowadays can't develop a character for their lives.

>>975503

>I disagree. It's not that writers can't develop characters, it's that they're not allowed to develop characters. That shit gets in the way of prostitution.

That may be so for cape comics but Vertigo titles usually had some development because the stories were self-contained and had an ending.

>>975505

No shit. But that was the Vertigo of yesterday. The Vertigo of today is just another branch of the Warner's IP empire, which is why all of the new stuff is coming from alternative publishers, some even from Vertigo's former executives.