No.967726
http://archive.is/CA3VS
http://archive.is/Z84jQ
https://archive.is/zYBG8
>DC's superhero girls turned out to exceed expectations
>They decide to put more focus on books for kids and young adults
>Ink is an imprint aimed at young adults
>Zoom is aimed at 5 - 15 year olds
>Both imprints will primarily publish tankabon-like volumes
>They will also be written primarily by book authors specializing in books for both of these demographics
>Ink books will be 192 pages long and cost $16.99
>First Ink books will be Mera by Danielle Paige and Harley Quinn by Mariko Tamaki and Steve Pugh
>Other Ink Titles are:
>BATMAN: GOTHAM HIGH – Melissa de la Cruz (ALEX & ELIZA, BLUE BLOODS series, WITCHES OF EAST END series)
>BATMAN: NIGHTWALKER – THE GRAPHIC NOVEL – Marie Lu (LEGEND series)
>TEEN TITANS – Kami Garcia (BEAUTIFUL CREATURES series)
>UNDER THE MOON: A CATWOMAN TALE – Lauren Myracle (INTERNET GIRLS series, KISSING KATE)
>WONDER WOMAN: TEMPEST TOSSED – Laurie Halse Anderson (SPEAK and CHAINS)
>Zoom books will be 128 pages long and cost $9.99
>First Zoom book will be DC Super Hero Girls: Search for Atlantis by Shea Fontana and Yancey Labat
>Other Zoom Titles are:
>BATMAN TALES: ONCE UPON A CRIME – writer and artist: Derek Fridolfs, Dustin Nguyen (BATMAN: LI’L GOTHAM)
>BATMAN: OVERDRIVE – Shea Fontana (DC SUPER HERO GIRLS series)
>BLACK CANARY: IGNITE – Meg Cabot (THE PRINCESS DIARIES series)
>DEAR JUSTICE LEAGUE – Michael Northrop (TOMBQUEST series)
>GREEN LANTERN: LEGACY – Minh Lê (DRAWN TOGETHER)
>SUPER SONS – Ridley Pearson (KINGDOM KEEPERS series)
>SUPERMAN OF SMALLVILLE – writer and artist: Art Baltazar & Franco (TINY TITANS)
>SUPERMAN SMASHES THE KLAN – Gene Yang (AVATAR: THE LAST AIRBENDER series, NEW SUPER-MAN), will be released as periodicals first, then collected
>Mr. Rozanski added that a lot of comics, particularly those centered on superheroes, attract a limited, die-hard audience. “The young people coming into stores are not getting material they can take ownership of,” he said. “They are hungry for adventure and for the kind of escapism that comics can provide.”
>The adventures meant for middle graders will delve into characters who are figuring out the world around them, including dealing with parents and teachers, she said. The young adult graphic novels will focus more on questions of personal identity, with budding heroes deciding what paths they will take.
>First book will come out in fall 2018
Seems like DC is trying something sensible again. They probably realized that new readers do not buy floppies, and prefer to wait for trades.
However, there is also this:
<In his stories, Mr. Pearson said, he will tackle climate change and introduce a character, Candice, who discovers that she belongs to an African dynasty.
No.967727
>>967726
Dammit. Teen Titans promo art somehow got duplicated and Mera's cover disappeared. I also should have used pink text for individual titles.
No.967728
>>967726
>Mr. Rozanski added that a lot of comics, particularly those centered on superheroes, attract a limited, die-hard audience. “The young people coming into stores are not getting material they can take ownership of,” he said. “They are hungry for adventure and for the kind of escapism that comics can provide.”
And we know the best way to achieve that is by revamping half a century old IPs.
No.967729
>SUPERMAN SMASHES THE KLAN
Oh lord.
No.967732
>>967729
>introduce a character, Candice, who discovers that she belongs to an African dynasty
I'm pretty sure the Lord is dead after this point…
No.967733
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>>967729
>Doesn't know his comic book history
Superman is the arch-enemy of the Ku Klux Klan, going all the way back to the 1946 radio serials.
>In 1946, the series delivered a powerful blow against the Ku Klux Klan's prospects in the northern USA. The human rights activist Stetson Kennedy infiltrated the KKK and other racist/terrorist groups. Concerned that the organization had links to the government and police forces, Kennedy decided to use his findings to strike at the Klan in a different way. He contacted the Superman producers and proposed a story where the superhero battles the Klan. Looking for new villains, the producers eagerly agreed. To that end, he provided information—including secret codewords and details of Klan rituals—to the writers. The result was a series of episodes, “Clan of the Fiery Cross”, in which Superman took on the Klan. Kennedy intended to strip away the Klan's mystique. The trivialization of the Klan's rituals and codewords had a negative impact on Klan recruiting and membership.
No.967736
>>967733
Not him, but I have nothing against the idea of Superman fighting the KKK. It just seems pretty fucking dated at this point. I live in Atlanta, and the KKK isn't really a thing. It's more of a hunting lodge type thing, They just pass out pamphlets on why niggers are awful every once in awhile.
No.967739
Yeah…got a bad feeling about this. But Superman smashing the Klan? Didn't they do that waaaaay back the 40's? And it was way more effective than any SJW horseshit?
Still, think that this might end badly for DC here. I could be wrong though..who knows?
No.967742
>>967736
I think it'll be a period comic. Another reminder that Superman was once relevant, while at the same time avoiding the troubles of today.
>Hey, remember when Superman took the piss out of the Klan?
>He single-handedly destroyed racism is in the forties, what a hero.
No.967743
>>967733
I'm vaguely aware of all that, but in this SJW era, even when the KKK is the barest shadow of itself, it's going to be so ridiculously over the top. Who wants to bet it'll reveal Trump himself as a Grand Dragon or something?
No.967744
>They probably realized that new readers do not buy floppies, and prefer to wait for trades.
This is for fucking kids and "young adults" though. Won't be them buying
Also, apparently the first OP image was done by a westaboo Jap fan artist.
>>967736
>>967739
Ideally it'll just be probably be a non-fictional period story about the radio show episodes. In the end it's just a side product for the YA market, so what's there to get worked up about? Superman Smashes Skinheads would be more timely given the Neo-Nazi hysteria that's in vogue now.
No.967745
>>967743
>Who wants to bet it'll reveal Trump himself as a Grand Dragon or something?
Don't be silly. It'll be his father.
No.967757
>>967753
Push your touchy feely bullshit somewhere else faggot, we're trying to have a decent thread while your shitting out unrelated garbage.
No.967850
Speaking of imprints, didn't DC already have one for when the Evil Batmen event ended? Dark Matter or whatever it was called.
No.967851
>>967736
>>967742
If you were going to do a period piece you'd be better off with an alternate universe where WW2 Superman realizes FDR is a friend of the KKK (See: Hugo Black) and the lesser of two evils is still evil so he doesn't just blindly serve as his agent (like he did during WW2 published comics). That could be a fascinating examination of just how fucked up and contrary to every single American principle FDR was and how Superman will stick to his principles even if it didn't make him popular. No place in a kids imprint though.
No.967865
>>967726
first pic looks fucking cute, got anymore?
No.967897
>>967850
Evil Batmen are only part of it, and it's called Dark Knights Metal. There are a handful of other original books in it as well, but only one or two came out so far. I only read first issue of Silencer that came out last week and it is decent enough.
>>967865
No, but artist's name is right there on the image. She also appears to be fond of Shazam.
No.967921
>>967897
Bleh, I wish spent more time evolving her faces.
No.967955
>>967726
>Zoom is aimed at 5 - 15 year olds
WOW, a comic book for kids! I'm surprisingly okay with this.
But isn't 10 years a huge gap for the public, shit, 10yos don't like what 8yos do, much less 12 and 15 what is aimed at 5. Sounds like someone wants this to fail on delivery.
>WHAT?! What do you mean we just sold a third of the projected numbers?!
>Yeah, only 5 - 8 year olds bought the book.
>Well, it fucking flopped, remember me to never do this again.
Especially at $10 and 128 pages, I've always complained that comic books are very tight on their writing because of their limited number of pages but I was thinking something around 50, 80 max in specials, not 192, that's 10 months worth of content and a huge fucking comic for a 5 year old to keep focus.
It all seems like a failiure to finally bury comics for kids.
>>967726
>Ink books will be 192 pages long and cost $16.99
Isn't most of the DC comics rated for Teens already anyways, seems okay besides that.
No.967956
>>967955
128 pages I mean, still a pretty thick book for a little kid.
No.967962
>>967955
I imagine they are actually targeting a narrower age range than mentioned, but the 5 - 15 is more like the age range the put on puzzles and boardgames as "2 and up".
No.967969
>>967962
> 5 - 15
Do they even read cape?
No.967979
>>967732
>>967729
Oh lord indeed. Why can't they just look at the Golden / Silver ages and do that? Villain of the week plots and constant prison escapes (they could add a hilariously incompetent guard as a comic releif character, who somehow always keeps his job), with only the rubberbandiest of continuity. Maybe even come up with new bad guys, who might later find their way into the main series.
>>967744
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If they don't want to do *spit* floppies in the traditional sense, they could at least do thicker anthologies that are later collected as books. Like the British versions of American comics, published by Titan and Panini: have Batman, Robin solo adventures and Batgirl all in one 66 page monthly, collect the "chapters" into books every 6 months (though most chapters would be self contained and only with the loosest of arcs). Make those collected books digest style and dirt cheap, too. Something people can buy for a quick read while they're going on a plane or train or something
>Westaboo
I've found a wretched hive of these in Osaka, recently. There they are, surrounded by thousands of comics in every genre at insultingly low prices (second hand tankobon are virtually worthless), and they'd rather sit around watching Black Lightning, surrounded by Ms Muslim posters.
No.967991
>>967962
>>967955
>10 year range
It will probably be range of the imprint in general, and each individual book will be catering to more narrow age bracket. Batman: Once Upon a Crime sounds like something for older kids, while Superhero Girls is for younger ones.
>>967962
>128 pages is a lot
What?
Weekly Shonen Jump has 400 pages and kids as young as 10 or 12 read it. In my country, mandatory reading for 7 year is often around 100 pages long, and depending on school you have to read anywhere between five to nine of these a year. 128 pages for a comic is not much, it's like two Asterix volumes.
Younger or struggling kids can also read it with parents or in smaller chunks.
Is the whole 'burgers are illiterate' stereotype actually true?
No.968001
>>967726
How many fags, lesbos and trannies will be in it?
No.968003
>>967726
>In his stories, Mr. Pearson said, he will tackle climate change and introduce a character, Candice, who discovers that she belongs to an African dynasty.
WE WUZ QWEENS N SHEEEIIIITTTT!!!
No.968004
No.968008
>>967979
>they could at least do thicker anthologies that are later collected as books
Problem with this is you can't realistically price them that low with that much content and still expect them to sell well enough to pay for themselves, especially if people are going to wait for the trades anyway.
No.968010
>>967991
>7 year
I meant 7 year olds
No.968015
Did…..did DC not see what this kind of shit did to Marvel?
No.968062
>>967727
But you forgot to post further information about tentative release dates as follows:
>The first titles from DC Ink include HARLEY QUINN: BREAKING GLASS by Mariko Tamaki (SUPERGIRL: BEING SUPER) with art by Steve Pugh, and MERA by Danielle Paige (DOROTHY MUST DIE series). The first title to hit shelves from DC Zoom will be DC SUPER HERO GIRLS: SEARCH FOR ATLANTIS from writer Shea Fontana and artist Yancey Labat. All three titles will go on sale in Fall 2018, with many more titles from DC Ink and DC Zoom set to follow in 2019.
No.968149
>>967897
I think I saw her on pixiv. I'll have to look into that.
>>968062
>Mariko Tamaki
Hopefully it won't be too bad.
No.968151
This looks like it might have some potential.
No.968153
Long been an advocate for DC doing tankobon-style releases.
Very good way to get kids to buy the comics, as they'll read the hero they like then the others to justify owning the book, and probably get more made.
>Ink
What's the aim for these? Young adults or older readers?
Are they completely new stories or just rehashes?
>Zoom
>5 - 15 year olds
<superman smashes the klan
Oh, now this can only end up well.
>>967962
This.
It's impossible to appeal to those demographics from a marketer's perspective.
You can probably work within 2 year brackets, but even then, kids will act/think differently to each other just because the number changes, seemingly overnight.
I do work with kids, and it's a fucking hassle to get them to bond with anyone that isn't the exact same as them.
>>967979
>*spit*
>>>/reddit/
No.968162
>>968008
Maybe the anthologies could be cheaply printed on newsprint and considered "throwaway" (autists and speculators will be CCGing them anyway, but that's their problem). The books would be better printed and cost more. Anthology readers get several stories to follow, book readers can just get the character they like
No.968813
Dustin Nguyen also shared his first promo art for Batman Tales: Once Upon a Crime (another Lil' Gotham story but he called the title after the city).
Source: https://twitter.com/duss005/status/962043090826489857
Still also Batman: Overdrive will be an origin story for the Batmobile.
No.968825
>>968812
>Super Sons
Fuck I love Super Sons! But of course, they got to include a sassy black chick, cause you can't just have a story about two white boys.
>Mariko Tamaki
I was trying to remember where I know that name, and she's the fucking awful writer who wrote the current She-Hulk for Marvel! The absolutely shit She Hulk who mopes around and watches cooking shows on Youtube for 12 or so issues. She's a YA author who should never have been allowed to write for comics at all! Just like Gabby Rivera…
There are too many writers who made Marvel shit migrating to DC now. They're like a plague of locusts. They destroyed one company, now they're on to the next.
No.968837
>>968836
That premise alone is a thousand times more interesting than the She-Hulk that Tamaki wrote.
No.968843
>>968812
>Harley Quinn Breaking Glass
Is Harley Quinn even Harley Quinn anymore?
No.968845
>>968843
She hasn't been for a long time.
No.968852
>>968825
>She's a YA author who
I have no idea why an industry that thrives on writing and talent keeps hiring retards who write objectively some of the worst shit ever put to page and why they keep bringing them back over and over again even though it has never worked out well.
No.968902
>>968162
>Maybe the anthologies could be cheaply printed on newsprint
Ironically, printing on newspaper isn't cheap anymore since the shift to digital offset printing, so it'd have little effect on the end price.
>Anthology readers get several stories to follow
So? Readers willing to actually buy a comic anthology are a minority though. Once you get past the whole "oh readers get more " bullshit, the anthology isn't actually a sound long-term publishing strategy in an industry where publishers struggle to sell individual titles every month. Anybody who says otherwise is either a weeb or just oblivious to what comics actually sell nowadays.
No.968912
<mostly women writers
<Harley Quinn Breaking Glass (ceiling)
<Superman vs the KKK
<climate change
<african dynasty
This is a decent idea, in theory, but they're stocking full of shit talent and retarded ideas.
No.968913
Dial H for Hero as a magical girl would be a good young reader title if they weren't going full retard and hiring the propaganda crowd for Zoom. Takes a winning concept (magical girl is well established as working for girls 4 to 12), allows introducing readers to the crazy number of obscure DC characters and opens merch of all sorts of cute clothes for the heroine.
No.968922
>>968852
I can only guess that the pool of authors who would wants a position they're offering is filled with such chlorine-huffing retards that the only thing separating them is the few that are already published and have the whiff of a name that could be squeezed for a few more dollars.
> She's a YA author who
See, already they've got an established career.
No.968923
>>968912
>mostly women writers
Did you read any of the articles? They're going straight for the teenage girl market with these books. They're chasing that Harry Potter/Manga dragon again.
>>968913
>Dial H for Hero as a magical girl would be a good young reader title
Don't start. Western comics can't into magical girls. Female characters in mainstream comics are usually limited to either sex pots or progressive icons since that's all they know how to sell.
No.968930
DC tried this 10 years ago. It failed then and it'll fail now. No amount of sticking your popular characters in there will change it because they have no idea how to appeal to kids and young adults. While it's still too early to say for sure, looking at what they've showed off and the people involved, this all looks safe and boring. Like they just said "Okay, it's for kids so it's gotta be cutesy and have no real consequences." and gave no thought or put in any research into what kids would actually want to read. They keep trying for the manga market without understanding what's drawing readers to it. This all just looks safe and bland. They would have had much better results if they went to Comicket, picked a random westaboo who does DC doujins and had them do a book. The fact that they got Sen and only used her for a lame promo instead of putting her on a Shazam book is just idiotic.
No.968931
>>967897
>She also appears to be fond of Shazam.
what are the odds of her having shota porn of him?
No.968933
>>968825
Mariko also does the Supergirl comic if I'm remembering correctly.
No.968941
>>968933
Mariko wrote a non-canon Supergirl comic with Joelle Jones on art recently. Steve Orlando writing Supergirl's ongoing now
No.969046
>>968852
Ir's probably because DC (and Marvel who also hires YA writers like Riviera and Cain) think that these authors will actually sell books. YA novels are a big moneymaker, as teens and adults who read that have no standards. Big ywo are probably hoping to replicate or transplant YA series' success in books to comics.
>>968923
Witch managed to handle Magical Girls decently.
No.969068
>>968941
Ok then. Is the Steve Orlando one good? I think he writes the Shadow/Batman crossover and I don't like that one.
No.969089
Better pics of concept arts of Ridley Pearson's Super Sons (will be a trilogy) and Green Lantern: Legacy, plus first promo art for Black Canary: Ignite by the newly announced literally who artist Cara McGee. Also last image reveals Mera's release month.
Are you ready for an Southeast Asian Green Lantern, and non-white versions of Bruce and Selina in GOTHAM HIGH?
No.969123
>>969046
W.I.T.C.H. was also Italian.
No.969129
>>967729
That just screams "severely out of touch".
>>967897
Fuck this whole Shazam nonsense. They should've fought for the right to use Captain Marvel instead of just handing it over to the dykes at Marvel.
No.969132
>>968930
>someone else remembers MINX
That imprint was appeared and disappeared in a flash.
I don't think it can be understated how poorly the Big Two understand these new markets. Their track record with them is absolutely ridiculous. They push garbage like TROUBLE on them and let books like Gwenpool and Galacta die.
>>969046
>Big ywo are probably hoping to replicate or transplant YA series' success in books to comics.
They've tried this before. YA series do not make for interesting comics.
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No.969156
>>969147
I don't know if many people realize that Marvel tried Gwenpool before and completely fucked it up.
They should be a team.
No.969160
>>969156
What wasted sexy potential.
No.969162
>>969156
>They should be a team.
I'd read that.
No.969163
>>969068
The general consensus among imageboard folk seems to be that it's hot synergized trash alongside his Justice League of America run.
No.969166
>>969156
The comic companies of the west simply do not understand the power of waifus.
No.969171
No.969172
>>969166
>>969168
With a name like this she won't have any problem feeding the babby.
No.969187
>>969166
>first pic
If only we could just take comic IPs from the west and give them to horny japanese doujinshi artists.
No.969191
>>969068
It's not great, but it's not terrible. I read about half of the Rebirth titles and it's low tier of what I've read, but not offensively bad or anything like that. I only read it because I really like Supergirl, the character, and it's OK enough if you're already a fan, I think.
No.969192
>>969156
>>969166
Galacta was too good for this world.
No.969219
>>969089
>those Super Sons and Black Canary pics
Yeah, this is going to be a SJW Marvel tier garbage fire. Mera looks like it has the chance of being a decent adventure story, but deep down I know it's going to be:
>"Mera, you can't be a warrior! You're a woman! Now go back to studying and become a proper lady."
Most of these look like they probably started their life as "Okay, I want to talk about (insert pet cause or agenda here), what DC character can I use to best push it?"
>non-white versions of Bruce and Selina in GOTHAM HIGH?
You wot now?
>>969132
>I don't think it can be understated how poorly the Big Two understand these new markets
Oh definitely. They keep trying to push together YA authors and super heroes and then acting surprised when oil doesn't mix with water. If these people actually stepped into a book store and paid attention, they'd see that the type of 13 year old that buys YA books, isn't going going to be interested in super heroes and most likely won't step foot down the graphic novels aisle. Likewise, the 13 year old that would read a super hero comic, isn't going to pick up "Superboy and Robin go on nonadventures with sensible black girl" when they could buy My Hero Academia or Attack on Titan.
No.969226
>>969219
>Oh definitely. They keep trying to push together YA authors and super heroes and then acting surprised when oil doesn't mix with water.
It feels like Marvel and DC are going out of their way not to hire people with experience in comics.
Why? I don't know, but in all my years as a comics oldfag, this is the first time I've felt that something sinister is afoot.
No.969236
>>969129
>They should've fought for the right to use Captain Marvel instead of just handing it over to the dykes at Marvel.
That happened decades ago though. What more can they do about it?
No.969258
>comic books for kids
lol. It'll never work.
No.969272
>>969226
With Marvel, I think there was an intent to completely replace their fanbase. They don't like the people reading their books and instead wanted their fans to be women in their 20s. I think the plan was
>dump their existing customers
>bring in YA authors and tumblr illustrators
>????
>profit
They expected every twenty something to flock to Marvel now, but they didn't take into account that Tumblr doesn't buy things, and YA readers aren't interested in comic books. So, part one of their plan was semi-successful, and they drove away a good portion of their male readers, but they didn't bring in the new ones.
Now, the question is why? Why would Marvel want to perform a mass replacement? Well, pic very much related. Beta fags like Tom Breevort wanted nothing more than to have a girl lift up his gut and give him a good handy-j, so they increasingly hired more and more women assistant editors and such to increase those odds. They then proceeded to bend over backwards to please them and gave them more influence. These are people that had no knowledge of comics as a business or an art form, and they then hired all their friends who had about as much experience. A quick trip to social media shows that the milkshake crew does not like men. Especially the kind of men that make (or rather made) up their readership. So, that's the answer as to why they wanted the great replacement to happen.
DC is slightly different. While Marvel is a grease fire that's burned down their house and is now spreading to the entire neighborhood; DC is a controlled fire that's dangerously close to getting out of hand. This isn't their first attempt like this. As stated before, ten years ago they made the Minx imprint in which they gave graphic novels to YA authors in an attempt to get that teen girl market. It was a colossal failure and I believe lasted less than a year. Around the same time they tried their hand at bringing in bestselling authors to try and reach a new audience, which led to stuff like Brad Meltzer on Justice League and Jodi Picoult on Wonder Woman. Neither worked out or lasted very long.
I say DC is a controlled fire because, at the moment anyways, because while these people are worming their way into the company, they're mostly kept away from the main books. They're either put on digital stuff like Bombshells or this new line, which is its own thing and can be dumped as fast as Minx if it fails. That said, the fire is spreading to inside the house as they start getting books like Batgirl and Supergirl. I stopped reading most capebooks a few years ago, so somebody chime in if it is worse than that. At the moment I don't think DC's intent with this line is as overtly sinister as what happened to Marvel. I think this is Diane Nelson saying "We need more teenage girls buying our comics!" and creating a line around it. The decision itself seems more motivated by money than anything. THAT SAID, looking at what admittedly little we've seen, it looks like there's a high chance that the people actually working on the books may be more concerned with pushing some agendas. Again, that controlled fire is getting closer to the house.
But that's all just a theory. A GAY THEORY.
TLDR: Yeah, there's probably something sinister afoot.
No.969298
>>969272
Yeah, no. Any problems Marvel has are because of Ike Perlmutter jewing everyone.
No.971341
>>967736
>living in atlanta
I feel for you, son. I lived there for 30 years.
No.971345
>>969046
>Witch managed to handle Magical Girls decently.
Coincidentally it wasn't made by American "jews"
No.971346
>>969166
Her name comes from galactose I presume
No.971450
DC finally uploaded the full DC Zoom and DC Ink ALAMF panels on YouTube.
Also I missed the following uncredited [by DC] artists:
>Mera promo art is by Mike Norton
>Batman: Overdrive concept art by "chzrz" (???)
>Superman Smashes the Klan designs by Yang (?)
The rest of the arts, in one of the worst Big Two artist credit ignorances as of late, are simply not credited.
All slides to follow
No.971452
>>971451
>not mixing the embed and the pics together in one post for some reason
No.971456
>>971452
>that 4th image
I just realized those are 2 really young kids hanging their feet off of tall building. Just seems plain unsafe.
No.971482
>>971453
>1st pic
Judging by the clothing I'm guessing this is a period piece.
No.971510
>>971452
>Meg Cabot
HASH
FUCKING
TAG
No.971527
>>971454
>They're finally putting Bruce in High School
>With Catwoman and The Joker
We're beneath the barrel now.
No.971529
>>971453
>Under the moon Catwoman is a fucking cat lady slob
I bet that bitch has a blog too.
No.971531
>>971453
>>971452
>>971454
I hate this. All of it. This is the exact opposite of what I wanted from DC. They're turning all of their major IPs into teenagers instead of utilizing the teenagers they already have. Like, where is the Amethyst series or Static? How about Blue Beetle? Hell, you could even resurrect the Pysba-Rats.
Young readers will see right through this as the condescending cash grab that it is.
No.971533
>>971531
>Amethyst
Drouhard is making comics right now. I'm sure DC could ring her up and give her some work.
No.971538
>>971453
>literally all of your work is "being a minority is hard"
pathetic
No.971566
No.971569
>>971454
>>971527
>putting Bruce in high-school
>instead of rebooting Batman Beyond
No.971571
>>971533
>the endurance of an Ogre
Hot.
No.971633
>>971527
>>971454
>>971569
>gotham high
wait a minute…
No.971634
>>971633
I still hate everything about this.
No.971661
>>971569
Terry isn't Bruce though. Having a Batman series without Bruce and his army of recognizable villains is too risky.
>>971634
It's the future. In this decade of cannibalization, DC needs to milk Batman for all it's worth.
No.971663
>>971633
Honestly, I would've been ok with that if it was a fan comic on deviantart.
No.971667
>>971633
Don't tell me this is actually real.
No.971693
Didn't Marvel already do this with that stupid She-Hulk high school comic?
No.971712
>>971667
It was concept art from deviant art. It never got picked up.
No.971843
>>971453
>Mariko Tamaki on Harley Quinn Breaking Glass
>“It’s a book about justice for teenagers, about thinking about right and wrong and trying to figure about right or wrong. It’s a book about activism. I do have the word intersectionality in there; I’m feeling really good about that. I’m sure I’ll get some tweets about that, also the word ‘systematic’, I’m hoping we get to keep it in there.”
>“It is also heavily a book about drag queens.”
I don't believe a book about a literal clown whore is the best avenue for this discussion.
No.971878
>>971843
The same Mariko Tamaki who made She Hulk a whiny comic about watching cooking shows on youtube and helping gays and going to therapy.
Why is DC hiring these people when they've so blatantly ruined shit at Marvel!?
No.971890
>>971843
Because when I think about activism and figuring out right and wrong, I think of a gymnast who banged her way to a medical degree and then fell in love with a murderous maniac. Like, who is this aimed at? Is this something your average 14 year old girl is really going to be interested in? Do they really think they'll pick this up over some shoujo book with pretty boys? Or if they're a fan of the character from Suicide Squad and the video games, wouldn't they just be more predisposed to buy a collection of the regular Harley series where she looks and acts more in line with her appearances in that other shit? Did they do no market research? I used to work at a bookstore, and while there is a market for books like that, it's niche and has very little crossover with people who would buy graphic novels, let alone super hero ones.
>I do have the word intersectionality in there; I’m feeling really good about that. I’m sure I’ll get some tweets about that, also the word ‘systematic’, I’m hoping we get to keep it in there
>I’m sure I’ll get some tweets about that
Oh, I get it now. She's tossing chum into the waters, hoping for a shark attack. I think a lot of these creators are going into this with a "Haha! I'm messing with your toys and there's nothing you can do about it!" attitude, and hoping to be the next victim du'jour.
No.971894
>>971878
Because she's got connections in the industry and comic companies are notoriously stupid.
Just going through Mariko Tamaki's twitter, it looks like she's friends with Jim Lee, the main DC Twitter (they follow her), and DC Director of Publicity Brandy Phillips. Since both Marvel and DC do not accept unsolicited submissions, the question becomes how did she get into the comic book industry in the first place.
Somehow, these people who are obviously lacking in talent are able to get their foot in the door. It's got to be more than "she fucked her way to the job". Someone at either DC or Marvel, probably Marvel, is letting them in.
No.971895
>>971878
I guess DC is at least sectioning them off on to their own imprint. At this point, the only conclusion I'm left to draw is that the infiltration is so deep and widespread that these sorts of books are going to get made by somebody no matter what. D&C had an interesting video where an anonymous insider claims it is the total control of the smaller indies based in Portland that has led to the entire talent pool the big 2 are likely to pull from being tainted by these types.
No.971898
>>971895
>D&C
Kill yourself.
Anyway, your conclusions are wrong. First, apparently something is going on at Marvel that's causing their refuse to hop ship to DC. Second, someone at Marvel probably gave these jokers a job that they could parlay into other comics work, and that someone might be Wilson Moss. Third, the fact that they weren't completely purged is a benefit to our overall goal of the collapse of the entire comics industry.
Either way, it's gonna be a trip.
No.971901
>>971898
>D&C
Something wrong with him?
No.971902
>>971901
Just typical annoying eceleb shit. I only brought him up to cite where I heard >>971895
Personally, I find his taste in comics to be awful, so his reviews are worthless to me.
No.971904
>>967726
That zoom thing looks like it could be fun.
No.971907
>>971901
Imagine back in the day when gamergators assumed the comics industry worked like the video game industry and assumed that sjws were the source of comics problems, and then would shit talk /co/ for not starting a gamergate of their own.
That's Diversity & Comics. He's an arrogantly stupid casual who bitches about sjws all day and thinks Marvel is out to get him.
No.971912
>>967979
Nah, fuck that.
Have Superman and other super heroes be part of Law Enforcement and other agencies, with clearances and laws, and have prisons actually be effective when used. And when they can't be effective, use executions, death warrants and Dead or Alive bounties.
No.971915
For me, Marvel going to dogshit, starting with Quesada and OMD, was infuriating and dissappoitning, because Marvel was actually fun to read and easy to to enjoy, the characters had lives and shit, things could be and were complicated and there was potential for it to be salvaged.
DC? What is there? Big Blue Boy Scout whose best appearance in the movies, Man of Steel, gave his fanboys PTSD because oh noes, finally someone shows the collateral damage as they should.
Batman? Stupidly overdone, and no one has had or will ever have the balls to set Batman agains the real problem of Gotham and surrounding areas. Corrupt, vile politicians, and the entire establishment. Plane Scene Movie just barely touched on it.
For Marvel, its understandable that stuff keeps happening at low levels, they easily swtiched from crime fighting to ganag warfare amongst themselves without anyone noticing.
For DC? 99% of the Superheroes sould run out of crime to fight, and should then spend their time blackmailing politicians of all sorts into being clean and smashing every organization that tries to re-corrupt everything….and then what?
No really, in DC, then what? You just have a gaggle of superpowered people chilling. Especially after the supervillains are locked up or executed or die in battle.
No.971919
>>971907
Huh. Well, all I really use him for is news on comics fuckery, but JSG has better presentation on that anyway.
No.971920
No.971923
>>971920
>muh retard prisons
>muh fightin crimes
Bruh, that shit is old. Very very old. So old it fossilized into amber. A turd in amber.
No.971997
Rich Johnson yesterday published a series of articles on what every individually announced DC Ink and DC Zoom title all about. He got the Batman Overdrive concept artist's name right (Marcelo Di Chiara), but not in the case of the Black Canary GN artist Cara McGee. He also got a few of the release dates in text form wrong.
No.972018
>>971997
>millennial Bruce Wayne
>refugees
>climate disruption
>sports reporter given a graphic novel
>woman who legitimately goes to a big presentation about her book wearing a cat lady sweatshirt
>everything about that Harley Quinn book
>writer makes an Aquaman pitch without knowing the basics of the character
>Catwoman writer not knowing anything about the technicalities of writing a comic book script beyond silly sound effects
>more refugee stories
>Asian Bruce Wayne
>Latina Selina Kyle
>Specifically pointing their races out as important aspects to selling your story
>thinking Batman and Superman have more cultural relevance now, compared to years ago
>thinking a mishmash of books with no coherent vision is going to change DC comics forever
I wish them luck, because boy howdy are they going to need it. Almost all of those look like they started life as "Okay, I want to preach about something, now what super hero can I use to best do that?" Baltazar & Franco and Dustin Nguyen are pretty much the only ones that look like they just want to tell entertaining, baggage free, super hero stories. Although the Batman Nightwalker book looks like it could be decent and the only one that has the potential for YA mass appeal.
No.972020
>>967726
>finally this industry does something goo-
>>971997
>oh
I've seen many industries that never learn from each other's mistakes, but aggressively competing to see who can fuck up the most is something I think only comics do.
No.972049
>>971997
It's like DC forgetting why they needed to do the fucking Rebirth or why they did the polar opposite of Marvel's progressive writing…
No.972050
>>971894
>Somehow, these people who are obviously lacking in talent are able to get their foot in the door. It's got to be more than "she fucked her way to the job". Someone at either DC or Marvel, probably Marvel, is letting them in.
It's not overly complicated. They either make shitty YA novels that feature progressive shit or little progressive comics no one reads. But since they write about some fat lesbo who has a crush on her teacher, it gets a free pass and is considered deep. Especially, if they're not white. The editors that drink the SJW koolaid don't think twice. All they see it someone who says the right things on twitter, has some kind of non-white audience (however small it is), and some cuck like Wil Moss scoops them up.
It's astounding though just how much they misread whatever audience they're even attempting to attract. Tamaki is a 40 year old, fat lesbo chink who only writes about fat lesbos dealing with cutting themselves or wanting to get laid. What was she going to bring to a She-Hulk book that would appeal to new readers or do anything for old ones? Nothing. And now she's writing for a line targeted at a group she's just as far removed from as your average white dude comic writer. She has nothing to offer this world, let alone young kids looking for a fun read.
No.972058
>>972050
Ultimate was doing fine. Ultimate Spider-man and Ultimate X-Men both sold around 50k every month, Ultimate Fantastic Four sold around 35k. Not mindblowing amazing, but definitely OK for 2008.
No.972061
>>972050
Not him, but partly understand what you said. Partly because… Somehow it's still not make sense to me! Can you explain to me how these hacks are able to get away with their shits even after their progressive bullshit is flopped big time?! I mean the fucking flop cost the publisher money, why they let themself rip off by frauds?
I mean, look at Marvel! Their comics are so fucking bad not even the critics able to praise them (besides the pc bullshits like how daring, how progressive Sucky, sucky… just dont call me racist)! But the faggots still on the loose. If the shitstained booklets don't sell it's the nerds fault (comics are a dying art form). If the comics sells just not what the pc people make, then it's must be racist! When will the greedy jews finally see that the problem is with their talentless fatsos and not with the market/audience?
>>972058
Never really liked the ultimate series, and i personally blame that shit show for attracting the "hipster crowd" into comics. Just my two cent…
No.972067
>>972049
>why they did the polar opposite of Marvel's progressive writing
That's only because their attempt at it failed spectacularly.
No.972106
>>972067
And what makes them think it will work this time? Every other company couldn't make it work, DC themselves had tried and failed to make it work on several occasions, but they still seem committed to it. It's like when you hear people desperately harp "No! REAL communism has never been tried before! This time will be different!"
No.972114
>>972106
You would think after the crash what the DCMU is they would stop money burning "experimenting" for a while…
No.972299
>>972061
>Can you explain to me how these hacks are able to get away with their shits even after their progressive bullshit is flopped big time?! I mean the fucking flop cost the publisher money, why they let themself rip off by frauds?
A quick look through their twitter should tell you everything you need to know. Ideology comes first with these people. The idea that progressive-ism is a religion gets thrown around a lot, but there's truth to it. These people believe that they are "on the right side of history" and that they are morally superior, which is why if you disagree, reject, or are even neutral on their points you're "problematic" and thus a Nazi.
They will keep trying to push these books no matter how many times they fail, because they believe this is what the world needs and any failure is just due to racism/sexism/patriarchy/whatever boogieman they want to be oppressors. They hide behind the idea that they're trying to bring in a new audience, but the only people who want these books are the one who already agree with their politics, and most people from that group do not buy comics. But that doesn't matter because if the message is something progressive the people who don't buy comics will still praise them. And when they fail, no biggie, because Disney and WB are footing the bill.
No.972369
>>972049
They did Rebirth to wash away the bad taste of New 52.
Also, this is just a bunch of Elseworlds tales aimed at younger readers. It's not worth all the asshurt here.
No.972469
>>972369
>SJWs are indoctrinating our youth
>"LOL NOTHING TO SEE HERE"
Kill yourself reddit
No.972680
>>967742
>le racism is bad, haha, fuck whitey
Enjoy nigger paradise.
No.973435
>>967726
Isn't that Green Lantern a gangbanger?
>>969046
>>969123
Forgot about that; got the name mixed up with Witchblade.
>>969272
Wasn't it because the brunt of their fanbase are getting on in their years?
>>971452
>Black Canary:Ignite
>That art
>Ignite
>>971533
I'd still be sad that series wasn't picked up if what happened to New Teen Titans didn't make me feel lucky it didn't.
>>971633
Everyone thought it'd never become a thing; god am I happy I never got into Batmans comics.
>>971878
Thanks guys, we may actually be able to recover now but you should all get together to try and push Bendis out because you're just gonna get worse than Ultimatum.
No.973482
>>973435
>Isn't that Green Lantern a gangbanger?
Not only that, his backstory is definitely way too much to have to explain to kids. He's a "not actually that bad" muslim gangster who gets thrown in Guantanamo because he accidentally hijacks a truck with an actual terrorist bomb in it, and breaks out when he gets lucky that a ring chooses him. The other new Lantern is equally difficult to explain to kids.
No.973698
>>973482
She's just an autist (unless she did something else); it'd be harder to explain Guy or Hal.
No.973708
>>973698
She's agoraphobic becauseshe went camping with he friends and stumbled across horror movie sociopaths and she was the only one who survived. I suppose you could simplify it to just "Really afraid to talk to people" and get the gist of it. As for Hal, it's easy to skip over the naughty stuff of his character because it doesn't effect his origins. At the same time, Hal's literally the "white bread" of characters and has little going for him to make him interesting.
No.973733
>>973708
>Survived a slasher horror movie
So a virgin who doesn't like going outside? What does she create with her ring; boxes and houses?
No.973744
>>973708
>ring chooses an agoraphobic
I thought the single requirement for being chosen by a ring was having no fear?
No.973750
>>973744
In fact, no:
Abin Sur willed the ring to find someone without fear to streamline the application process since he was fucking dying
A green lantern must be able to overcome fearful situations consistently. Being completely without fear is a serious medical condition (as elaborated on by a 70s story where he was applying for test pilot jobs at other aircraft companies as well as Jaime Reyes's friend Paco in B:BatB).
Some other GLs run training programs such as Sinestro's before he was deposed (Katma Tui being his greatest student and inheritor of his ring)
No.973766
>>967736
They're all feds anon.
No.973769
>>973435
>>971452
>>Black Canary:Ignite
only thing that needs igniting are the fucking pages
No.973770
>>971843
>clown whore
>clown world
like pottery
No.973772
>>973744
Like >>973750 says, it's the willpower to overcome fear. It's actually kind of interesting since it basically says that her mental anxiety is so fucking bad, that simply applying for jobs takes Green Lantern level willpower. At the same time, they've basically completely dropped her anxiety ridden characteristic at this point since the start of Rebirth, though her randomly failing to summon latern constructs would eventually get annoying.
No.976822
DC ANNOUNCES YET ANOTHER IMPRINT: BLACK LABEL
With mature stories for mature readers, by acclaimed creators.
http://archive.is/odi4r
>The success of Batman: White Knight, Dark Knight III: The Master Race and Nightwing: New World Order has demonstrated a readership for more adult-suitable stories using DC Comics characters. So while DC Zoom and DC Ink offer comics aimed at a child and young adult audience I get the word that something called DC Black Label will feature comics aimed at adults using familiar DC characters.
>DC Black Label is an imprint designed to allow “an all-star lineup of creative teams” to “craft their own personal definitive DC stories.” According to DC’s official press release, the imprint is inspired by some of the publisher’s most successful prestige titles including Batman: The Killing Joke, The New Frontier, The Dark Knight Returns, and Watchmen.
>According to DC co-publisher Jim Lee, Black Label books, much like the predecessors that inspired the imprint, will be creator led, rather than continuity driven, takes on the DC universe. He said:
<Many of our perennially best-selling, critically acclaimed books were produced when we unleashed our top talent on standalone, often out-of-continuity projects featuring our most iconic characters…creating DC Black Label doubles down on our commitment to working with all-star talent and trusting them to tell epic, moving stories that only they can tell with the highest levels of creative freedom.”
>When thinking of DC Black Label, longtime fans might turn to DC’s “Earth One” graphic novels as a point of comparison. The Earth One comics, like Black Label’s future books, do away with the intricacies of the standard DC Universe continuity, choosing to focus on making their stories accessible to readers outside the direct market.
>Each of the Black Label books “will have a unique format and release schedule to best serve the story and creative vision.” This opens the door not only to standard single issues and OGNs under Black Label, but less standard formats such as Euro-sized comics as well.
No.976824
>>976822
List of books that will appear under Black Label imprint:
<SUPERMAN: YEAR ONE by Frank Miller and John Romita Jr.
>A groundbreaking, definitive treatment of Superman’s classic origin story in honor of his 80th anniversary. This story details new revelations that reframe the Man of Steel’s most famous milestones—from Kal-El’s frantic exile from Krypton, to Clark Kent’s childhood in Kansas, to his inevitable rise to become the most powerful and inspiring superhero of all time.
<BATMAN: LAST KNIGHT ON EARTH from Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo
>the creative team behind DARK KNIGHTS: METAL
Batman wakes up in a desert. He doesn’t know what year it is or how The Joker’s head is alive in a jar beside him, but it’s the beginning of a quest unlike anything the Dark Knight has undertaken before. In this strange future, villains are triumphant and society has liberated itself from the burden of ethical codes. Fighting to survive while in search of answers, Bruce Wayne uncovers the truth about his role in this new world—and begins the last Batman story ever told
<BATMAN: DAMNED from Brian Azzarello and Lee Bermejo
>On a deserted Gotham City bridge, a body is found. Whispers spread the news: Joker is dead. But is this a dream come true or a nightmare being born? Now Batman and DC’s outlaw magician John Constantine must hunt the truth through a Gotham City hellscape. The city’s supernatural recesses are laced with hints about a killer’s identity, but the Dark Knight’s descent into horror will test his sanity and the limits of rationality, as he must face a horror that doesn’t wear a mask.
<WONDER WOMAN HISTORIA: THE AMAZONS from Kelly Sue DeConnick and Phil Jimenez
>A Homeric epic of the lost history of the Amazons and Queen Hippolyta’s rise to power. Featuring monsters and myths, this three-book saga spans history from the creation of the Amazons to the moment Steve Trevor washes up on the shores of Paradise Island, changing our world forever.
<WONDER WOMAN: DIANA'S DAUGHTER from Rucka
>It’s been 20 years since the world stopped looking to the skies for hope, help, and inspiration. Now the world keeps its eyes down, and the powers that have risen have every intention of keeping things that way. Amongst a scattered, broken resistance, a young woman seeks to reclaim what has been forgotten, and on the way will learn the truth about herself, her heritage, and her destiny.
<THE OTHER HISTORY OF THE DC UNIVERSE from John Ridley (12 Years a Slave, THE AMERICAN WAY)
>A compelling literary series analyzing iconic DC moments and charting sociopolitical gains through the perspectives of DC Super Heroes who come from traditionally disenfranchised groups, including John Stewart, Extraño, Vixen, Supergirl, Katana and Rene Montoya, among others. At its core, the story focuses on the lives of those behind the costumes, and their endeavors to overcome real-world issues. It isn’t about saving the world, it’s about having the strength to simply be who you are.
What is DC doing with all these imprints lately? Are they making serious attempts at experimenting and diversifying their portfolio?
No.976826
>>976824
>>976822
http://archive.is/Jtt96
Dammit, I forgot about the archive link for the list of comics and elaboration on DC's press release.
No.976838
>>976822
>>976824
>>976826
Why did you post Black Label on this very thread instead of a new one?
Also Sean Gordon Murphy was originally supposed to be artist of Last Knight on Earth until a D&C-related hissyfit happened. Also I feel sorry for Paul Pope. Still also part one (of three) of Superman: Year One will launch in August.
No.976839
>>976838
Perhaps I should, as most other news threads are pretty far down the list. I was on the fence, and decided against it, since there is a handful of news threads already and this one was about yet another imprint.
No.976840
>>976824
>Are they making serious attempts at experimenting and diversifying their portfolio?
Kinda, but unlike Marvel they seem to have learned not to cannibalize their mainline superhero books to do so. Plus, the expansion seems pretty calculated: the Black Label headliners so far are essentially Elseworlds prestige books with known talent attached. The Sandman Universe is cashing in on one of Vertigo's few long-term successes The Ink/Zoom books are trying to cash in on the kids/YA markets. The only question now is whether it'll pay off.
No.976842
>>967897
>and the other heros
This make shazam sound like a narcissist
No.979351
Solicits are out.
Harley Quinn: Breaking Glass by Mariko Tamaki, Steve Pugh
>Paperback – September 4, 2018
>Harley Quinn: Breaking Glass is a coming-of-age story about choices, consequences, justice, fairness and progress and how a weird kid from Gotham’s poorest part of town goes about defining her world for herself. From Caldecott Honor-winning author Mariko Tamaki (This One Summer, Supergirl: Being Super).
>Harleen is a tough, outspoken, rebellious kid who lives in a ramshackle apartment above a karaoke cabaret owned by a drag queen named MAMA. Ever since Harleen’s parents split, MAMA has been her only family. When the cabaret becomes the next victim in the wave of gentrification that’s taking over the neighborhood, Harleen gets mad.
>When Harleen decides to turn her anger into action, she is faced with two choices: join Ivy, who’s campaigning to make the neighborhood a better place to live, or join The Joker, who plans to take down Gotham one corporation at a time.
>Harley Quinn: Breaking Glass is at once a tale of the classic Harley readers know and love, and a heartfelt story about the choices teenagers make and how they can define–or destroy–their lives. This is the first title in DC’s new line of original graphic novels for middle grade and young adult readers.
We're at Archie levels of IP whoring here.
No.979352
>>979351
Mera by Danielle Paige
>06 November 2018 Trade Paperback
>192 pages
>From Danielle Paige, the New York Times best-selling author of Stealing Snow, comes a Mera and Aquaman origin story that explores Mera’s first steps on land as well as her first steps as a hero or a villain, forcing her to choose to follow her heart or her mission to kill.
>Mera is teenage royalty, heir to the throne of Xebel, the other not-so-lost colony under the sea. But Mera is destined to wear a different crown, that of Atlantis. When the inhabitants of Xebel plot to overthrow their homeland of Atlantis, Mera is sent to kill the heir to the throne, Arthur Curry. As the unrest between their colonies grows, Mera and Arthur unexpectedly fall in love…will Arthur Curry be the king at Mera’s side in Atlantis, or will he die under her blade?
>Mera by Danielle Paige is an astonishing story that explores themes of duty, love, heroism and freedom, all through the eyes of readers’ favorite undersea royalty.
Outside of "DC Superhero Girls", that's it for now.
No.979353
>>979351
That sounds horrible. Then again its by Mariko Tamaki so I'm not surprised.
>>979352
This might be decent though I'm getting a teen romance vibe from it.
No.979357
>>979351
>gentrification
Whenever I hear shit like this, I imagine something from Joe Simon's crazy seventies comics. You know, where he'd tackle social issues by being balls out insane?
But then I remember these aren't those kind of books.
No.979381
>>979351
Well, this sounds pretty bad. They just keep going with Harley and Ivy being superheroes. It is also pretty annoying that hipsters paint themselves as victims of the gentrification instead of being the perpetrators.
>>979352
Cover art is the best thing about this book. Other than that it's just the generic "killer falls in love with the target" with some teen romance shit added in. It can work if executed well, but this a big two comics after all.
No.979391
>>979351
>"Solicits" from Amazon are out
ftfy