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File: 89407b085e9c95a⋯.png (6.58 KB, 310x81, 310:81, Jackiechanadventures_logo[….png)

File: 836985471e1a17f⋯.png (14.13 KB, 300x128, 75:32, 300px-Avatar_The_Last_Airb….png)

File: 22393159f3bd094⋯.jpg (111.11 KB, 400x300, 4:3, Xiaolin_Showdown[1].jpg)

 No.945221

>barely, if any, of the main characters are white

>they're good shows with lots of action, a consistent overarching plot, fun dialog and fun characters

>nobody cares about the cast's race

Other than Static Shock is there a single show with a black main character that's remotely as good as these three?

 No.945222

>>945221

>Other than Static Shock is there a single show with a black main character that's remotely as good as these three?

No, because you add minorities into a show, it's usually done to add some flavor to the world and make it feel more fleshed out. But the moment you add a nigger, everyone rants and screams about how you need to have the entire show be about how terrible niggers have it in life and they can't have any personality beyond why racism has effected their life. Static Shock got to avoid this because, as a saturday morning cartoon, it was told to avoid racism because it's a complicated subject, making it the best cartoon with a black protagonist the world could ever have.


 No.945247

File: f5b8be58a99c579⋯.jpg (210.53 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, Teen-Titans.jpg)

>>945221

Here's one. Cyborg (and also Bumblebee, and Mas/Menos) never bring up their race or being black.

They even have a "muh racism" episode when it is revealed that Starfire is a filthy useless Troq, and Cyborg's is able to relate because he is… half machine. The obvious poor blacks narrative is completely sidestepped. Cyborg could have been any race and the script would have been written the exact same.


 No.945250

>>945247

I can't decide if that moment is supposed to be a sort of joke, where anyone above the age of 10 knows he was clearly supposed to say "Because I'm black," or if it was supposed to be indicative of his character that he identifies more as a Cyborg than he did as a black man.


 No.945252

How about Proud Family?


 No.945254

>>945250

To be fair, the only parts of Cyborg that are black are half a bicep and a big chunk of his head.


 No.945261

>>945222

>Static Shock is the best cartoon with a black MC

Trips confirm, I remember the episode where Richies Dad hates blacks and that time he went to Africa were the only episodes where race and race relations are even mentioned I think.


 No.945266

Everyone knows that's the best way to have a minority in a cartoon, OP. Just have a minority and treat him like you would anyone else, that's it. It's super obvious and not a particularly hard thing to do, you just change someone's color and maybe shape a little.

The only people who don't know this are racist race baiting liberals who have something to gain from pushing the "progressive" agenda.


 No.945277

>>945221

Avatar doesn't count since all the characters came from their own homogeneous cultures of similar race.


 No.945278

>>945277

Just like Jackie Chan Adventure and Xiaolin Showdown. What's your point?


 No.945279

>>945221

>using Avatar as an example of a show with non-white characters

that doesn't really work because Avatar takes place in a fictional world with fictional races of people that is never stated to be related to the real world. it's not like LotR where you can argue the characters are white because it was intended to be an alternate history of Earth. The only reason why people perceive characters in Avatar as being of certain real-life races is because they have been given cultural traits characteristic of those real-life races. Obviously the Air Nomads are supposed to be based on Tibetan monks, but that doesn’t mean they are actually in the same racial group as real-life Tibetans. It’s also pointless to try and make that argument based on physical characteristics because the characters rarely have such distinct physiologies as people of real races. It is rare that the “Asian” characters in Avatar have the eye structure typical of real-life Asians, and even when they do, it is typically not shared by even other characters in the same racial group.


 No.945293

>>945247

And Justice League, but ensemble shows where the main character rotates are a bit of an out.


 No.945365

>>945277

>>945278

Its a bait thread dumbass


 No.945441

File: e1487c8b155ab16⋯.jpg (24.74 KB, 550x696, 275:348, McDuffie would be merciles….jpg)

>>945222

That and McDuffie knew how to write a cartoon, unlike most people. I loved how the villains were too caught up in their gang shit to try and actually use their powers.

>>945250

>>945247

Obviously.


 No.945497

>>945222

Literally the reason why any SJW-leaning non-black writer always write them in the blandest and most boring way in an attempt to be totally inoffensive.


 No.945503

With Jackie Chan adventures I liked the first 2 seasons that and some of the Chinese mythology was played decently enough. Should Jake Long the American Dragon be included here too since the main character is Chinese and there is a bit of Chinese influence however small.


 No.945626

>>945503

>they're good shows with lots of action, a consistent overarching plot, fun dialog and fun characters

Jake Long is none of these things


 No.945640

>>945250

Honestly I always figured Starfire probably wouldn't understand what Cyborg meant by referring to his skin when Beast Boy is green, Raven is gray, and Starfire herself is kinda oranfe.


 No.945653


 No.945690

No one mentioned Boondocks yet?


 No.945693

>>945690

It doesn't count. The characters make a very big deal about race, as the entire show is a critique on Black Culture. It still manages to be a good show because it honestly looks at Black Culture and doesn't complain about whitey the whole time.


 No.945702

What was the Static comic like compared to the Static Shock cartoon?


 No.945714

>>945702

Like all comics highly dependant on what author and run you looked at. His mom was alive in the comic canon though.


 No.945721

>>945714

Did any of the other Milestone characters show up, like Icon or Blood Syndicate or Hardware?


 No.945736

>doesn't complain about whitey the whole time.

This is Huey's entire character.


 No.945737


 No.945746

>>945736

I though he criticized white people and lamented black culture? That or he's the mouthpiece for Aaron McGruder.


 No.945775

>>945254

This. While none of the titans really have happy backstories and have to deal with being who they are, Cyborg's the only one who also has to deal with what he became, since he was just a regular guy before being Cyborg. It's not like it's new for characters to feel a loss of self after losing parts of their original bodies.

>>945746

It's both, though I believe moreso the former since I don't know much of McGruder himself, other than that he's left-wing, but to what extent and the fraction of it stemming from his being black I'm not sure. Huey is probably the best example of a "woke" character in any work of entertainment, and by best I don't mean agreeable, but the most entertaining since he always got shat on for being the overly political guy


 No.945993

File: bd309ecd5612688⋯.webm (8.05 MB, 704x464, 44:29, Martin Luther King Speech.webm)

File: a209d53cf8380f3⋯.webm (6.07 MB, 704x464, 44:29, niggercism.webm)


 No.946004

File: 68586f2644d0ce9⋯.webm (3.93 MB, 656x368, 41:23, a_nigga_moment.webm)


 No.946008

File: 4cfd473a128245a⋯.jpeg (108.63 KB, 413x395, 413:395, thatsagoodone_4e49021057f….jpeg)

>>946004

>Nigga moments would be the third leading cause of death for black men behind pork-chops and FEMA

That line tickles my fancy every time


 No.946009

File: d88de4ad4a064a8⋯.webm (11.05 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, black_womyn.webm)

File: b90762e0d4aa96c⋯.webm (3.84 MB, 1916x1076, 479:269, faggot.webm)


 No.946106

>>946009

>>946004

>>945993

I miss this show (the last season was bad) and Black Dynamite


 No.946119

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>945247

The racism scene is fucking hilarious, though.

>Course I do…

>I'm part robot.


 No.946181

>>946119

I've always hated Cyborg because he's a nigger, not because of him being part robot.


 No.946206

>>946106

What do you mean? there were only 3 seasons of the boondocks, and season 3 was one of the best. The fourth season doesnt' exist


 No.946288

File: e319fe9cd936fc6⋯.jpg (75.75 KB, 640x480, 4:3, Teen_Titans_-_5x10_-_Go!.m….jpg)

>>945247

>>946119

I remember how salty people were when he didn't say he understood because he was black. They apparently didn't understand that having over half of your body being machine would get you far more discrimination than being a nigger ever would.

Worse yet, by prioritizing Cyborgs blackness, critics of the scene deliberately choose to ignore the discrimination faced by those with prosthetic limbs or medical implants. Cyborg isn't a "black" hero. He's a DISABLED hero, and people should fucking remember that.


 No.946335

>>945775

>Cyborg's the only one who also has to deal with what he became

All the existing male Robins at the time of the show's creation would have had to deal with becoming orphans, but that's never touched on in the show.


 No.946344

>>946288

I'm not a big fan of Cyborg as a character, but when you take a good look at his origins, it's pretty clear that he's got lots of reasons to be pissed off. His Dad experimented on him all his life, so he distanced himself from his parents, became a successful turbojock with a promising future, which pissed off his Dad further, then he nearly dies and his Father experiments on him again with freaky alien technology that nearly consumes his entire mind… and now he's got a fucking computer for a brain which makes it hard for him to even think like a normal human being anymore. Him being black hardly enters the picture when it comes to shit that fucks with his life.


 No.946388

>>946335

I think it is to some degree. Without saying 'Batman,' Robin references his "father" once and looks up to see bats flying around. I think in response to Slade trying to act as Robin's father figure.


 No.946389

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>946388

Here we go.


 No.946426

>>946344

How much of that is actually explicitly canon in the cartoon?


 No.946449

>>946426

All of it, except that I don't think they ever establish him neglecting his "black side."


 No.946566

>>946288

The reason why they made him black is to force the issue that he's different. Instead of the discrimination being about him as part machine, they make him black so that's the first thing you focus on.


 No.946582

File: 4dba1bd91762b1d⋯.png (59.57 KB, 860x650, 86:65, IMG_0180.PNG)

>>946566

Nice claim, but I don't see anything supporting it

>>946449

I'm just remembering wrong or in Batman animated he was actually ok and nice with his father?


 No.946697

>>946582

>I'm just remembering wrong or in Batman animated he was actually ok and nice with his father?

Daddy issues depends wildly on the continuity of him, but it's fairly consistent that there ARE daddy issues.


 No.946748

File: 9b9228355266f14⋯.jpg (248.99 KB, 618x800, 309:400, Disco.jpg)

>>945221

Fillmore.


 No.946934

>>946741

REEE NORMIE REEEEEEEEEE


 No.947015

>>946934

>implying Xiaolin Shiwdown isn't a normalfag show


 No.947044

>>946741

It not only looks retarded, the whole concept is utter shit and not marketable.

>>946934

You know, people who liked shit back then were the boring kids. So basically, the definition of normal.


 No.947100

File: 64be33d0e3b6556⋯.webm (1014.11 KB, 640x480, 4:3, 1419288394884.webm)

Jade is best girl!


 No.947101

File: 15e2df0f34062d9⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 291.65 KB, 424x600, 53:75, 163b1bcf35ce20621be04c7b87….png)


 No.947500

>>947100

Obviously.


 No.947501

File: c3d54f60ccd976c⋯.webm (534.38 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, are you new.webm)

>>947100

>soundless


 No.948027

>>947504

Jackie Chan Adventures is /co/.


 No.962818

>>947501

Like you could do better.


 No.963106

>>947100

Her design bothers me. It seems too anime compared to the other characters, and poorly imitated anime at that


 No.963125

File: 7623619a9dd9bf0⋯.jpg (937.07 KB, 800x1127, 800:1127, Rgb_dvd2008_packaging_case….jpg)

Princess in the Frog was pretty good honestly.


 No.963136

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>That cartoon based on a jewish comedian


 No.963141

>>945222

Funny thing is it did tackle racism at one point but not in the "beat your head with a mallet" way, it did a lot of tough subject in really good ways


 No.963181

>>963106

Well, she is from Hong Kong.

However, if she were anime, she'd have worn socks.


 No.963186

>>963181

>However, if she were anime

>>963106

>. It seems too anime compared to the other characters

Do you have anything else than to constantly bitch about non-/co/ related shit? I know you're not native to the board but make an actual effort not to be a faggot and talking to yourself won't cause an actual disscusion.


 No.963771

>>963144

A failed attempt to cash into a celebrity's face, surprisingly not created by Hannah Barbera.


 No.963849

>>946566

Is that true? I just assumed he was made black to contrast with all the white/silver machine parts.


 No.964531

File: 01f86568c5ecfe2⋯.jpg (49.29 KB, 218x150, 109:75, Codename-kids-next-door.jpg)

>>945221

The black protagonist is the smartest one, later, became head of the all the Earth Operation. Diverse cast of fat, skinny, bald, girly, asian, and black. Nobody gives a fuck.


 No.964534

>>964531

not accurate

Numbah 5, the black one, is the slyest

Number 2 is the smartest


 No.964540

File: 0641e6ab1718c11⋯.webm (206.56 KB, 640x480, 4:3, NO_JADE.webm)

File: 72bc34f2699956a⋯.webm (10.94 MB, 900x600, 3:2, gondola train.webm)

>>962818

>Like you could do better.

>better than a soundless webm

here is your fucking webm with sound

Its not even hard to add sound you dipshit

I ripped the audio from a 10 hour train video and a 5 minute soundtrack for teaching feeling then slapped a gondola gif into it so it would make a decent webm, this gondola with this song exists nowhere else at this moment because I made it just to prove a point to you.

All you need is ffmpeg, the source and the code to rip from a specific part of the video, its not that fucking hard, stop posting webms without sound you fucking cuck.


 No.964624

>>964534

Book smart versus street smart.

Numbah 2 was still fucking stupid in some ways.


 No.964630

File: 18defff7f7be325⋯.webm (1.75 MB, 960x720, 4:3, Credit to your people.webm)

>>945250

Isn't it sort of a variant on 'credit to your people'?


 No.964634

>>946426

None of the stuff about his father. Not the slightest mention.

>>946582

> Batman animated he was actually ok and nice with his father?

Batman The Animated Series? From the 90's? He's never shown or spoke of in the entire DCAU. Only the new animated justice movies have him, and I haven't noticed any reference to his family in those, but I haven't watched the newer ones.


 No.964635

>>945266

I disagree.

Remember that a lot of the early and modern inclussion of token race characters are because of executive producers who want to expand the audience target. They don't know about treating said character as any other character as well and that gets reflected in the product.


 No.964672

File: 73c97e6cf0ec9d0⋯.jpg (196.13 KB, 975x1345, 195:269, 0.jpg)

>>964635

Steamboat was actually supposed to appeal to black readers.


 No.966153

>>946181

Hey, at least if his black half tries to rise up; all you gotta do is shoot it and throw it in prison but try that with a Terminator and you're fucked.


 No.966165

>>964630

I thought that was in there because it was the 50's and it was meant to be a reflection of that time period?


 No.967989

>>946288

>Is a part-machine superhero with super strength and jets and lasers and sheeeit

>Disabled (aside from the fact he's black)


 No.967992

>>967989

He'd feel more disabled if he occasionally took his limbs or facial prosthetic off.


 No.968176

File: df9a11208e5db50⋯.jpg (32.67 KB, 421x481, 421:481, kikaida16.jpg)

>>946288

I always thought his design in that show was similar to Kikaida.


 No.971929

>>945221

Spawn, if we're counting shows that aren't for kids.

Also had a movie, in case anyone here actually thinks BP is the first black cape to get a Hollywood movie.


 No.971966

>>971929

I don't think even the recent wave of cuckchan newfags are dumb enough to think BP was the first.


 No.971978

>>946106

>>946206

I honestly didn't care for season 3. It had funny moments, but on the whole I didn't like it as much as the first two.


 No.980487

>>946119

The fact that she wanted to put the mission first rather than blow up and be super emotional first was pretty good character development for her


 No.980490

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>964540

Do you know the song of that gondola webm? I can't seem to find it, and it's super comfy.

All I found that was close video wise was this


 No.980495

>>967992

Is that what you say to people with prosthetics?


 No.980518

From the top of my head:

Young Justice,

Teen Titans,

Steven Universe,

Avatar as a whole,

Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy,

Mike, Lu and Ogg


 No.980539

>>980490

>I ripped the audio from a 10 hour train video and a 5 minute soundtrack for teaching feeling

yeah he probably does. go play teaching feeling.


 No.980557

Afro Samurai? Yeah, I know it's an anime.


 No.980596

>>980495

I think what he's trying to say is technically, Cyborg's new body doesn't really impede him as much as being forced to rely on a prosthetic limb would. It affects him more socially and mentally than it does physically, so I'm unsure if 'disabled' really applies to him, though I agree that him being half machine is a way bigger factor than him being black.


 No.980645

class of 3000


 No.980678

File: c4ea0dff7ced327⋯.png (9.04 KB, 255x255, 1:1, 1434881557537.png)

>>980539

Fuck, I'm retarded, sorry about that


 No.980742

>>980645

I liked it and the songs it had were good. The only thing I didn't like was the artstyle. Sometimes it could get wonky like there was this blob that was supposed to be a parrot but I couldn't tell due to the artstyle.


 No.980765

>>980678

Dont forget to pull the trigger anon.


 No.981363

File: 88372ef255d5b6f⋯.png (225.57 KB, 600x519, 200:173, 1521612831489.png)

>>946748

>Hype intro

>Smooth protag

>Goth girl

Great show


 No.981380

>>964531

I really miss this show, I hope the sequel series gets made one day.


 No.981417

>>946288

I remember the episode where he is really moppie about being a cyborg and it ends with some kid saying Cyborg is him. The kid showed that he had a prosthetic arm. Cyborg told him that he is like him but not because of the arm.


 No.985698

>>981380

If it got a sequel nowadays it would be very unlikely to have that true neutrality in terms of race politics like it did before

It might be better to leave in peace


 No.987724

>>945221

Fillmore!


 No.989574

>>946748

>>987724

Photographic memory is a spook.


 No.989761

File: 1754115c4f879f6⋯.jpg (59.17 KB, 500x380, 25:19, tumblr_lw5pcgCANe1qahbsb[1….jpg)

>>989544


 No.989831

File: 456c4c9b53521b3⋯.png (159.52 KB, 640x480, 4:3, vlcsnap-2018-01-14-23h46m1….png)

>There isn't a longer, full version of the JCA theme


 No.989848

>>989831

Have you check itunes?


 No.990049

>>990029

Yes, the intro. There's a full version of the credits music, which for some reason is referred to as the JCA theme.

I just want my funky guitars man.


 No.992199

>>946009

For some reason the "4 billion times" got a chuckle out of me


 No.997363

>>945221

Men in Black


 No.1004049

This thread is ancient.

It was made last year!


 No.1004051

>>1004049

Then why did you bump it?


 No.1009642

>>1004051

Why did you?




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