No.922893
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2017/09/sjws-rush-to-defend-gi-joe-comic-writer-as-fans-call-for-firing/39766/
>Social Justice Warriors across social media and the Leftist-entertainment media sector have come out of the woodwork to defend IDW Publishing’s G.I. Joe comic book writer Aubrey Sitterson after the fandom have been calling for him to be fired for a number of offenses they deem unprofessional.
>Things started with Sitterson making what many claimed to be insensitive tweets about mourners of 9/11, politicizing the event and turning it into a Left versus Right issue.
>Various people, especially veterans who serve in the armed forces, saw the comments from Sitterson as more than just a social media peccadillo. The umbrage taken up by those in and out of the comics industry eventually culminated in harsh criticisms from a number of people calling for Sitterson to be fired, including army vet Zack from the YouTube channel Diversity & Comics, a niche outlet that reviews and usually criticizes Marvel, DC and other comic books for their SJW slants.
No.922900
>No archive
http://archive.is/PpeWr
Also
>Leaving out the faggot defending deviantart-tier fetish art covers
No.922910
>>922893
Ya gonna storytime or what?
No.922919
>>922893
>political bullshit
>e-celeb bullshit
>"COMICSGATE NAO!" bullshit
Kill yourself
No.922927
<still also fucktons of delays
Who cares about this run anyway?
No.922940
>>922893
Is that a real cover? It looks like a literal gay porn comic.
No.922942
>>922940
It's a variant. This is the real cover.
No.922948
>>922893
This shit is awful, if only because yet another overhyped she-twink thought she was doing something revolutionary and amazing by queering up a beloved series, but it's IDW and this shit hasn't been selling well at all. It will probably be canceled before anything can come of this drama.. but seriously, what the fuck were they thinking when they saw the script that involved multiple characters being reinvented as fat, black, gay women?
No.922965
>>922948
>overhyped she-twink
Aubrey is a dude.
Goes to show how little of a shit anyone gives about IDW or GI JOE. This entire drama is one of irrelevance.
No.922974
It seriously amazes me how this is even an issue, nobody is reading this shit and GI Joe is a dead fucking brand, so why is everyone at each other's throats?
I get the GG fags need something to do seeing as GG has been dead for two years now and as someone who followed that shitshow from start to end, I can safely say that it was entirely pointless.
The shit websites these faggots fought against still exist and Zoe Quinn has faded into obscurity.
I'm getting sick and tired of "OMG GUYS WE NEED COMICGATE" everytime an SJW says something retarded on Twitter, remember that Milkshake thing?
No.922977
>>922974
>GI Joe is a dead fucking brand, so why is everyone at each other's throats?
Sitterson is going to be facing repercussions because the GI JOE fandom went direct to Hasbro and IDW and made it known under no uncertain terms they want him gone. Most comic book readers who are against the sjw shit are cucking out and saying they don't want him fired. No different than faggot gamers refusing to go after devs. Seems like toy collectors are the only ones who are capable of standing up for themselves.
No.922986
>>922965
Whoever beat him up as a child for having a name like Aubrey clearly didn't hit him hard enough to knock the faggotry out of him.
No.922988
>>922977
>Seems like toy collectors are the only ones who are capable of standing up for themselves.
Yes, against the opinions of shitty freelance writer working on a comic that sold only 5,404 issues in July. This is a huge threat that needs to be defended against immediately.
No.922989
>>922893
>that literally gay ass cover
Holy fuck how has he and the staff not already been fired by hasbro?
No.922990
>>922977
>Most comic book readers who are against the sjw shit are cucking out and saying they don't want him fired. No different than faggot gamers refusing to go after devs.
>thinking what works with vidya works with comics
Oh brother are you in for a surprise.
No.923027
>>922942
Why are they standing on top of a giant?
How did the new GI Joe comic change into this? Last time I checked Krake took over as Cobra Commander and conquered a small east asian nation and was planning on conquering america. That and the tone of the early IDW GI Joe comics by Chuck Dixon seemed to have a more realistic and gritty tone to it.
No.923043
>triggered retards trying to censor retards by getting them fired
And you guys said the right isn't as bad as the left.
No.923051
>>923043
Well, it's giving them a hearty spoonful of their own medicine while showing them the sword cuts both ways, and other such clichés.
No.923059
>>923043
>>923051
Getting them fired isn't the same as censoring them. You're not robbing them of their freedom of speech, you're just depriving them of their livelihood. However, it is hypocritical to decry sjws getting someone fired and then openly celebrate others getting an sjw fired, in both situations, because of their speech. You would enforce the very type of chilling effect that you originally fought against.
But this is all ridiculous. IDW isn't going to fire him. They'll get rid of him once they have a replacement then quitely not renew his contract. In the process, IDW gets a bunch of buzz about their G.I.JOE books, getting it exposed to new audiences, and armchair warriors will feel smug satisfaction, unaware that they just fed the monster they were trying to destroy.
No.923063
>>923059
Telling a company that you don't want to pay them to hire some talentless chucklefuck is certainly not censorship. If anything it's voting with your potential buying power, which they need badly. IDW isn't publishing books that are flying off the shelf, and some faggoty numale hipster turning a retro IP into a SocJus soapbox is just bad for business, especially because nostalgia is big business right now.
It shouldn't be this hard to communicate this sort of sentiment to a company. "Hey, please stop wasting effort on this book. No one wants to buy it because the writer makes terrible shit and makes me not want to support you" should have any half-decent company concerned about improving their image and sales. Instead, we've got a barrier of tweets and shitty articles saying nigger-hating turbo Nazis want to lynch an innocent man for daring to assert that black people can be heroes.
No.923101
>>922940
I think its because the author used to be a moderator on one of the WWE websites and is into wrestling.
No.923109
>SJWs defending leftist writer of GI Joe
This world is weird.
No.923116
>>923063
Already you have several misunderstandings.
First, you think that comic readers are the customer in the comics market. They are not. Comic shops are the customer, as they're the ones that buy the books. Comic companies could care less about what the readers think. Your buying power only hurts the shops, not the Big Two.
Second, unless something really big happens, shops will keep buying it. They need diversity of product to attract the new customers they desperately need. In addition, non-Big Two titles are stuff they can afford to take risk on, as the sales of DC and Marvel keep the lights on.
Third, anything you do will be used against you. Comics are in dire need of attention and they can spin anything you throw at them as a selling point. Say you hate the book, BOOM, Mary Sue article out praising it and saying it's under attack by evil Nazis. IDW gets press and a new line to sell the book to shops. And that's bush league stuff. They can spin anything. I saw DC spin the outrage over a character's death as a selling point. There's really no winning with them.
With that in mind, I can say your strategy is flawed. They feed on any ounce of attention you give them, and by engaging them, you only serve to strengthen them. I can tell you this is what they want. The comics media have attempted several times to start their own "comicsgate" to harvest our much needed attention. Do not be fooled.
The best approach, in my opinion, is neglect. Do not fight with them on social media. Do not acknowledge them. Laugh at them from the safety of anonymity. If you must contact them, do it through email or snail-mail, as they far harder to build buzz on.
Only though our collective disdain will we defeat this monster.
No.923127
>>922977
>Sitterson is going to be facing repercussions because the GI JOE fandom went direct to Hasbro and IDW and made it known under no uncertain terms they want him gone. Most comic book readers who are against the sjw shit are cucking out and saying they don't want him fired. No different than faggot gamers refusing to go after devs. Seems like toy collectors are the only ones who are capable of standing up for themselves.
gamers are evil
No.923133
We finally get comicgate only for it to turn out to be 80'sactionfigurecollectorgate.
No.923135
>>922974
I agree with most of what you're saying but you have to admit that the way comics pros behave on Twitter is absolutely ridiculous, beyond the pale, and it's amazing any of them still have jobs.
*pause*
Yeah, I get it that "being upset with what comics pros say on Twitter" is in and of itself ridiculous. But then when you actually see how these people behave on Twitter, it's actually gone beyond what should be possible in a remotely sane society.
Pros openly insulting fans while their industry burns down, pushing away anyone who doesn't agree with them 100%, doing 0% promotion of their actual products but 100% anti-Trump stuff all the time, literally telling most of their potential customers "fuck you", openly supporting violence against police in the service of "trans rights", calling for insurrection, etc.
It's like "Why are the writers of friendly cartoon characters allowed to do this? Why are their corporations not firing them?"
It's different when actual celebrities with big followings and market value say something like this. If Stephen King or JK Rowling insult Trump twenty times a day, or if some legit famous actors say half the US is retarded Nazis… well, those people actually still have many millions of dollars worth of pull.
But mediocre (at best) comic creators whose products are hitting record lows? Um, I don't want "#comicgate" but it is actually quite a jaw-dropping curiosity.
No.923136
>>923116
>First, you think that comic readers are the customer in the comics market. They are not. Comic shops are the customer, as they're the ones that buy the books. Comic companies could care less about what the readers think. Your buying power only hurts the shops, not the Big Two.
That's like saying "people don't buy the products, retailers do!" yeah and if nobody buys the products retailers stop ordering them, dipshit.
Fucking over their distribution network isn't some next-level scheme to get more money.
No.923142
>>923135
>But mediocre (at best) comic creators whose products are hitting record lows? Um, I don't want "#comicgate" but it is actually quite a jaw-dropping curiosity.
It's a phenomena often referred to as "Roll left and die"
An ailing business, usually news but not always, identifies they're declining. Rather than attempting to fix this decline, the powers that be decide to "roll left" and start injecting hardline leftist opinions into their work. Does this stop the eventual death of the business? No. But it make it appear as though the people who failed did so because of their political opinions. They then seek employment with other companies that share said opinions because "we failed because we aired your opinions" is a hell of a lot more attractive that "we failed because we're incompetent".
Please note this is not always true. Even healthy companies will spout leftist rhetoric if they think it would give them an extra dollar.
No.923147
>>922893
>>922942
It can't be too expensive to hire a decent artist.
No.923170
>>922974
>>922919
>>922988
>>922990
>>923043
>>923116
/leftypol/'s really stepping up their efforts. Guess they finally noticed the comics industry is turning against them.
No.923193
>>923043
>implying anyone here actually gives a fuck
IDW and marvel are racing each other to see who collapses first and I haven't bought a comic from either in years. Threads like these are just like slowing down to rubberneck when you pass a bad wreck the highway
No.923194
>>923136
>That's like saying "people don't buy the products, retailers do!"
In the Direct Market, the major distribution system of comic books, shops purchase the books from the distributor (Diamond) at a lower rate in exchange for not being able to return them. Thus, at the end of the day, regardless if it sells at the shop, the comic company has already made a profit. This makes comic shops the "customer".
Now, I'm assuming your not buying any of these comics, which means you're in no position to assert your buying power to get shops to stop carrying these comics. After-all, you can't stop buying something you weren't buying in the first place. Of course, you can spread the word to tell others not to buy any of these books, but because the vast majority of the population do not read comics, they also can't stop buying what they're already not buying. Worse yet, you would spreading public awareness of this niche comic that most people aren't even aware exists.
All of which would be counter-productive. SJW books are doing terribly and the next shallow pandering cycle is just around the corner. The market is washing them out, and it's stupid to risk reversing it simply because the impatient young braves want a fight.
No.923200
>>923116
First, distributors gauge interest by sales. Considering IDW is 1) small, and 2) selling like shit right now because comic readers hate their books, comic companies have to care, because believing they can foist off the books on distributors when they aren't selling will close even more comic stores.
Second, shops are not buying it because it's not selling. This was straight from the horse's mouth just recently when Marvel's executive said no one is buying the "diverse" books, and if the big two aren't moving books, then shit like IDW doesn't stand a chance.
Third, they'll write those articles as long as they have at least one tweet that confirms their narrative, even if they have to fake it or treat a couple shitposters as a nazi army. You can't win a PR war with the goddamned media.
>Do not fight with them on social media
>If you must contact them, do it through email or snail-mail
The only intelligent things in your entire post. Too many faggots try to use controversy to score e-fame by hoping their criticism video goes viral, or they score some followers on twitter for shitposting at some talentless hipster hack. The easiest way to affect these companies is to contact their upper management types and tell them directly that the shit their authors are doing are directly influencing your decision not to buy their books.
No.923221
>>923135
You type and structure sentences like a redditor. Go back and stay back.
No.923229
>>922942
How embarrassing.
No.923262
>>922940
Well the designs are based off the 80's designs.
No.923333
>>922977
Dubs affirm Sitterson repercussions.
>>922988
Hitler dubs affirm Sitterson is immediate threat.
No.923343
>>923333
Quads affirm affirmations.
No.923352
>>923262
The art style is eerily similar to gay cultural icon Touko Laaksonen's with how it's emphasis on, bulbous and bulging forms.
No.923367
>>923352
I think I'd rather see it drawn by your guy there. He at least seems to know how to draw weight and motion
No.923370
>>923367
I think the closest we got to a superhero comic by Tom Of Finland was Josef Szekeres' Blood Chic.
No.923392
>>923352
>Jack Kirby is compared to the gay community for any reason
I didn't need that today.
No.923393
>>923352
Those are some good lookin' dudes.
No.923530
>>923352
That's exactly what I thought of when I saw that cover.
No.923567
>>923370
Look at Deathgaze's crotch.
LOOK AT IT.
Image Comics used to cover his dick with speaks bubbles and price stickers. Anything to hide that fucking mushroom head.
No.924094
>>922919
You literally saw the title and took time to reply instead of ignore it on a slow board. I am starting to think we need these threads to make you faggots show your shilling pattens.
No.924791
>>923135
>It's like "Why are the writers of friendly cartoon characters allowed to do this? Why are their corporations not firing them?"
Because Marvel doesn't make it's money off of comic books, they make their money off of the movies and GI Joe isn't relevant anymore, the last GI Joe show came out seven years ago and the last live action movie came out in 2013.
You can bitch and moan about wanting ComicGate all you fucking want, it ain't gonna happen. Nobody cares if someone said some stupid shit on a garbage website.
No.924800
>>924791
>You can bitch and moan about wanting ComicGate all you fucking want, it ain't gonna happen. Nobody cares if someone said some stupid shit on a garbage website.
Actually, they do care. The stuff with D&C is getting picked up on larger and larger websites. The "milkshake" shit was picked up in major news sources, but of course that was reported from the other side.
But I don't know who's "wanting ComicGate", what that would even mean, or what the point would be. These companies obviously aren't going to change, but the semi-organized fan-opposition to them actually serves the purpose of hastening their demise, because the companies and writers double down on their b.s., driving more fans away faster.
>Because Marvel doesn't make it's money off of comic books, they make their money off of the movies and GI Joe isn't relevant anymore
You mean Disney doesn't make money on Marvel comic books? All the more reason for Disney to cancel the entire operation, the same way Disney canceled its video game arm.
IDW obviously makes money off GI Joe comics. Their financial report came out a few days ago, though, and they're making 90% less than they made last year. It's not like Hasbro keeps having IDW make GI Joe comics "just because". It's not like the only reason there were toys or movies in the recent past is because IDW was keeping the brand alive. That's not how this works.
The public doesn't go see these movies because there are active comic series of them. These things can go away, and they will go away, due to low sales. Whether there is mass gossiping about it due to "some stupid shit on a garbage website" is kind of irrelevant, but you're factually wrong in thinking that there isn't a large audience interested in hearing about it, for whatever that's worth.
No.924812
>>922893
This looks terrible
No.924872
>>924800
Oh wow a bunch of clickbait sites who are known for writing clickbait instead of news wrote clickbait! Stop the fucking presses!
Also Miles Morals has been around for five years now, it doesn't matter if you're not buying the comics, Marvel is still gonna keep these characters around for fucking years.
IDW wasn't keeping GI Joe alive, they were just obligated to publish comics based on Hasbro toys because of their contract with them. Also if you seriously don't think Marvel gets a cut from those movie profits then you're an even bigger retard than I imagined.
No.925644
>>922986
Aubrey is also a boy's name tho
No.925678
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
These problems arise when anyone except Larry Hama gets near GI Joe.
Let's just have a moment to appreciate writers who treat their craft seriously, instead of treating their readers like idiots.
No.925682
>>925678
Is Chuck Dixon ok? I know he wrote some of the earlier IDW GI Joe stuff alongside Larry Hama.
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No.929399
>>925678
>Larry Hama
>Not treating readers like idiots
I have an entire run on Batman that says you're wrong.
No.929439
>>929399
Mind storytiming?
No.929557
>>925678
Yeah, about that…here's a few pages from issue 244 of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero, written by Larry Hama.
No.929562
>>929559
Is that Snake Eyes cabin?
No.929620
>>922893
>tfw this is all we'll get now
I want a story arc where Cobra Commander fuckin snaps and purges all of these mystery meat faggots, restoring the Joes to their previous mostly straight, patriotic status
I want Commander to be the real threat again, not words and feelings or whatever
No.929636
>>929562
Yep, just so there's no misunderstanding that Trump voters are the bad guys.
No.929750
>>929636
I though they were just rednecks?
>>929620
Speaking of the Commander what is he like in the new comic?
No.929757
>>929636
I though they were just rednecks?
>>929620
Speaking of the Commander what is he like in the new comic?
No.929760
>>929750
>>929756
>>929757
Sorry for the triple posts. It didn't go through the first time.
No.929784
>>929757
Check what they're carving into the cabin.
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No.929810
>>922893
Wow, all the characters on that cover look like they just left a gay bar. I mean the handlebar moustache guy with the hat is just blatant.
No.929812
>>922974
Kek, such low energy shilling.
>>923135
with such half-assed consensus cracking.
No.935784
No.936260
Did they create any new characters for this or no? Does GI Joe need new characters since there are a shit ton?