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 No.914347

I hate when I get a little invested in a comic and after a few issues the artist changes and is god awful. I hate you Horacio Domingues. What comic artists do you hate?

 No.914461

Is that Incorruptible? I don't remember the art being anywhere near that bad when I read it.


 No.914473

i remember being a kid and getting crushed when Machine Man went from crazy New Gods looking art to total fucking dimestore trash, and thinking

>who is this loser that marvel thinks he deserves a comic?

that was when Ditko took it over, by the way


 No.914480

>>914347

>Those lines of action.

>That panel flow.

The illustrations are a normal level of bad by modern standards but the composition is really conspicuously terrible.


 No.914664

Mike Deodato Jr.

He managed to kill not only William Messner-Loebs' run on Wonder Woman, but also Peter David's run on The Hulk.

It's like both writers took one look at the art and just gave up.

It's worse in The Hulk because I really had the feeling that the previous artist, Angel Medina, was deliberately screwed by the editors, Angel is a perfectly competent artist, previously Jim Starlin had called him one of the three best he'd worked with, but they gave him idiots to ink his work and only printed negative letters complaining about his work, and responded with mock surprise, which, back when Marvel actually pretended to read letters, was the oldest trick in the book to make it seem like the guy you were kicking was really unpopular. Then they bring in TITS MCNOBACKGROUND, the man who pathologically couldn't draw his own grandmother without insect-like supermodel legs and Russ Myers tits up around her ears, who came in somewhere between Rob Liefeld and Greg Land.

Even John Byrne was making fun of Deodato when he took over Wonder Woman.


 No.914795

>>914664

I hear ya, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't masturbating over Deodato's Amazons back then.


 No.914811

File: a7a059686da6d18⋯.jpg (88.99 KB, 422x294, 211:147, jjpepper.jpg)

File: 0df5846225f8eeb⋯.jpg (42.85 KB, 569x375, 569:375, My Iron Heaaaart.jpg)

File: b8b2081f28cb610⋯.jpg (59.85 KB, 339x409, 339:409, Stark has a sad.jpg)

Salvador Larroca


 No.914832

>>914811

Is spanish? that makes me very ashamed.


 No.914837

File: 7963ad872f22719⋯.gif (1.61 MB, 400x281, 400:281, 1469382509788.gif)

>>914811

>2nd pic

HOW DID HE GOT AWAY WITH IT?


 No.914878

File: c577f9e9b8b10e2⋯.jpg (12.94 KB, 378x301, 54:43, heart-attack.jpg)


 No.915266

File: ddddc1c5700a5b3⋯.png (57.73 KB, 500x428, 125:107, 12fsdf.png)


 No.915417

File: 7bf545f144e66d1⋯.jpg (1.7 MB, 3112x2060, 778:515, Uh oh greg land _bc8728927….jpg)

File: 2869081ac2e3e3f⋯.jpg (31.75 KB, 510x157, 510:157, bullock-02.jpg)

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>>914837

The same way Greg Land does. Also, people were so accustomed to Greg Land being the tracing hack of Marvel that some misattributed the hhhhnngggg old man/Iron Man tracing to him, when in it was actually Larroca. They eventually found out about him, though.

>>914832

So sorry anon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Larroca


 No.915479

>>915417

To be fair, I think the last one is justified.


 No.915540

>>915417

These never fail to crack me up


 No.915795

File: 30665b74856970d⋯.png (682.7 KB, 770x1191, 770:1191, Can't wait to hit those sh….png)

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File: 85cf9a18315bb81⋯.png (740.68 KB, 770x1191, 770:1191, 1394449699909.png)

Jack Cayless. Thankfully I think he's out of the cape picture now.


 No.915804

File: 0ef447948920039⋯.jpg (195.98 KB, 600x881, 600:881, 06af6f9bbea19a9def14e63205….jpg)

I'd describe Mark Campos' artwork as Liefeld on crack.


 No.915805

>>915417

I think these serve as a great example to aspiring artists as to why you shouldn't trace. It is the quickest, surefire way to the bottom of the uncanny valley.


 No.916504

>>915804

Was that from EXTREME JUSTICE?


 No.916511

>>915804

What's wrong with the picture? Looks fine to me.


 No.916518

File: 43c4cb88151f4ea⋯.jpg (557.25 KB, 1280x1968, 80:123, cbdd9ec8ff466946214fa97e92….jpg)

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>>916511

Good point. Let my try to find some more egregious examples.


 No.916519

>>916518

Cartoony/steroid proportions, still nowhere near as bad as half the shit ITT.


 No.916526

>>916518

>2nd pic

It's like someone is pulling a melting Barbie doll.


 No.916565

>>916518

Thanks


 No.916783

>>915795

Wait he actually worked for the big two at one point?


 No.918263

>>916518

Yikes.


 No.919456

>>915795

Lets not.


 No.920759

I kind of want to say Humberto Ramos. You can argue its stylized and in my youth I would've bought that with his older work. But seeing Champions and some of his other stuff just make it come off as lazy and sloppy.


 No.920787

>>914664

PAD's Hulk went on for years after Deodato.

They brought on Adam Kubert, Wolverine, Apocalypse, Juggernaut guest spots, gave it a big push, and PAD didn't leave for another year and a half.

I get the criticism of him (especially in '90s) but Deodato was only on Hulk for seven issues. Nowhere near long enough or close enough to the end to kill that run.


 No.924658

>>916518

Man, those looked pretty bad.


 No.924667

>>914480

>The illustrations are a normal level of bad by modern standards but the composition is really conspicuously terrible.

Could you explain to my half-blind, artistically illiterate ass what's wrong with it?


 No.924955

>>915417

>shortly after a new hope

>copy return of the jedi hairstyle

nigga wut?


 No.927440

File: 9e2e8cb936298bb⋯.jpg (52.5 KB, 1191x670, 1191:670, 20170918.jpg)

some of these are pretty bad


 No.928080

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 No.928112

>>928080

Oh God I've actually read this comic. seems meh enough. Though why the son looks like Danny Phantom is beyond me.


 No.928131

File: 908b4d721a6878b⋯.jpg (76.68 KB, 578x960, 289:480, dude numbers lmao.jpg)


 No.928132

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>>928080

>those fucking dead fur suit eyes


 No.928133

>>924667

>Guy swings his fist left to right

>The other guy just flops on the ground without being touched like he's playing divegrass because the lines of action don't intersect

>Then the soldiers walk in but shouldn't he have already seen them if he's facing them?

>How is the other guy behind him if he's facing the soldiers but didn't turn around?

>Flip perspective AGAIN for the background-erasing bullet shot

>But if you rotated panel 3 to be behind the guys getting shot, the bulletproof guy would be on the right

>There's no line of action for throwing the lamp, so it looks like he's telekinetically levitating it along with a bunch of broken glass

>Great big parallel line (the window frame) in the middle of the panel so it looks like the old guy is in a separate panel

>Now we need THREE PANELS of this guy not actually doing anything? You can tell an entire story in three panels.

>I guess he's kicking part of the lamp but it just looks like he's stepping forward

>He has ellipses in the last panel even though there was already an entire panel dedicated to a pause where he didn't say anything!

The actual character drawings are janky but drawing at his level might be passable if he got the composition right.


 No.928134

>>928132

It's the dead eyes and the constant depiction of the furry as an obnoxious obsessive that still leaves me unsure if these aren't meant to be making fun of furries.


 No.928145

>>928134

Wait. You're unsure whether this comic, starring a ridiculous furry stereotype that somehow managed to get a wife and start a family, is meant to be making fun of furries?


 No.928147

>>928145

I think we're all just so used to furries being absolutely degenerative cancer that a comic affectionately poking fun at them is too innocent to understand.


 No.928173

>>928131

That's just a trace.


 No.928187

Anyone have that America page where the characters change skin tone relative to eachother across two panels right next to eachother?


 No.928192

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 No.928200

>>914811

>1st pic

Did he just trace over Nicole Kidman?


 No.928290

>>928080

>be furfag

>make terrible furfag comic

>write awful Highlander "joke"

>get the Highlander catchphrase wrong


 No.928305

>>928192

Got one without the watermark?


 No.932305


 No.932922

File: 89fa592dcd8ace5⋯.jpg (428.59 KB, 1264x1920, 79:120, 3668985-w2 shehulk2014002_….jpg)

Damn near squirrel girl bad.


 No.932936

>>932922

Why is SHULK big green 24\7? Is it a personal choice or is her power just always on without a stressor like Banners? I know they write Yellow Hulk the same way as well, but I guess I never really bothered following Hulk beyond the classics and the Ferrigno show.


 No.932938

>>932922

No one in Marvel comics took a look at this repulsive art and said, "let's not hire this person."?


 No.932940

>>915417

Old comics used to mock other artists for doing it. One of the spidey comics had a random guy reading a newspaper saying "[Artist's surname] Swipes Again!" as a headline.

"Swiping" is tracing from other comic artists.


 No.932942

>>932940

Could you imagine the fucking shit storm if someone did that now? Imagine all the Salon articles and e-celebs twatting about this shit if someone had the GALL to call them out swiping as opposed to confrotning the artist ont he act itself Doubly so if the artist hast he all encompassing pussy pass.


 No.932945

>>932922

Is /tv/ aware that Maisie is featuring in comics now?


 No.932989

>>916518

>second pic

>girl

that poor soul

>>928132

the thing is, the artists wanted to emulate the real life fursuit eyes

>>932922

DELETE THIS!


 No.932999

>>932936

She prefers being Hulk'd out, and it helps that she has one over her cousin in the ability to change at will. Even when she was permanently locked into Hulk mode for a while after absorbing a shitload of radiation, she just said "What's the bad news?"


 No.933180

File: 844bc23257bf99b⋯.jpg (173.09 KB, 833x1257, 833:1257, ASM50v2_04.jpg)

File: 288733f3bc9496a⋯.jpg (90.66 KB, 650x400, 13:8, johnromitajrhorrible.jpg)

john romita jr need some leesons.


 No.933198

File: a066637e2f590b9⋯.png (243.18 KB, 600x600, 1:1, pen_ken.png)

>>928305

I've removed most of it. Here you go.


 No.933210

>>928080

When a thread is about shit artists who got comics published, wading in with whatever you found with the "random" button on Comic Genesis is kinda cheating.


 No.933212

>>928080

Furry shit aside, it looks more like the author didn't want this to try to be an artistic and well drawn comic and wanted this to look not that different from a newspaper comic strip. Cartooney style is still kinda meh.


 No.933307

>>932922

lol they just mirrored half a face and didn't bother fixing it.


 No.933355

>>933307

>lol

Hey neogaf


 No.933378

File: b06923bf0f98861⋯.png (814.54 KB, 719x1280, 719:1280, funposting.png)


 No.933379

File: 47be4bea29ec080⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 1.56 MB, 2560x1466, 1280:733, 28951285-2560-1466.jpg)

>>932945

I think so – there’s been a /co/tv/ Maisie crossover


 No.933404


 No.933454

>>932922

Arya stark?


 No.933541

>>932922

Shit art quality aside, what were they thinking when drawing first three panels? They don't look good and they don't really tell readers anything. What were they going for? Is the view supposed to pan from one eye to half of each and then stop? If so, why? If they wanted to show her rolling eyes or looking around, it would be better to keep the area that panels depict consistent across the panel, but with position of pupils and eyebrows being the only differences.

This are so many easy ways to fix it aside from keeping panel's coverage consistent, but two are especially simple and obvious.

First, the three panels could easily be used to establish the mood of the scene - show an empty chair across the desk, show that Jen is the only person in the office, show empty file racks and folders or computer with a screensaver on or something,

Second, you could just remove those, and instead make the fourth panel a full page. Including location and narration from previous three on one image would make the moment linger longer and feel more drawn out, which would fit better than what we have right now. It would also mean less




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