No.1057971
Remember when Chad Thundercock was the antagonist of a Don Bluth cartoon, trying to cuck the nice guy protagonist?
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No.1057972
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>>1057971
>Don't be a card, babe!
>Don't mess with Drake!
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No.1057975
>>1057971
>Chad Thundercock
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No.1057996
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Gaston did nothing wrong except fuck up and not properly kill the Beast, and needlessly chase after the wrong woman for no reason other than ego.
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No.1057999
>>1057971
If you're going to go with a Bluth villain go with Jenner. Admittedly, I'd argue that he isn't super well integrated into the narrative (I always felt that NIMH's plot felt a little disjointed with Jenner's scheming being mostly tangential to the main plot of moving the house). But he absolutely nails the slimy sophisticated villain archetype. You get to see him range from urbane politesse to berserk rage based on how much control he has over the situation. He feels a lot like a Jafar in that regard, with the main difference being a broader characterization. Jenner's animalistic design helps a lot here as the animators could stretch his expressions into grotesques beyond even what Disney could achieve with Jafar's more human design.
God damn I miss that level of hand drawn animation.
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No.1058035
>just wants to protect the people from moral subversion
>recognizes that gypsies are a bunch of murderous criminals
>doesn’t actually lie to Quasi about people being assholes to those who are different
>biggest fuckup was being led astray from his mission by lust
reminder that Esmerelda is responsible for every bad thing that happens in the movie
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No.1058056
>>1058035
how about we teach men not to rape instead, sweetie
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No.1058066
>>1057996
>chase after the wrong woman for no reason other than ego
Gaston was too charitable, and he wanted to save Belle from herself. He called her the most beautiful girl in town, but he clearly appreciated the Bimbettes who made her look extremely plain by comparison. It was just an excuse to keep her from relying on her old father and his obviously inefficient machines, which would eventually lead her to die alone and penniless. Later, she used the Beast as a more effective substitute for daddy; he was rich and could protect her from the outside world, but they could never build a family together. He knew she was doomed to a self-destructive life there and rallied the town to her aid, succeeding at the cost of his own life.
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No.1058067
>>1058066
I remember seeing somewhere that Beauty and the beast being somewhere in the top 20 most highly rated movies by women. Your analysis would makes this very much believable. I believe it to be very easy to self insert as Belle for most women.
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No.1058130
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Honestly, you can't really beat Vincent Price. Though I'll admit Tim Curry gives him a run for his money.
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No.1058131
>>1058067
Most Disney Princess movies are written as female-oriented romances, meaning that women are supposed to be able to self-insert as the MC. This is the reason why most Disney princesses have very simple personalities.
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No.1058133
>>1058066
>Bimbettes who made her look extremely plain by comparison
They were used-goods thousand-railroads-worth of-dck-run-through-em whores
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No.1058134
>>1058133
Birth control didn't exist and abortion was handled as murder. Women focused on attracting men back then were on one of two paths: housewife or prostitute. Prostitutes could only survive in the city, needed pimps, and still led shitty lives overall. They were living in a small town and cried their eyes out when he announced he was getting married. They weren't worried about access to his dick, they were sad that the most capable provider of a legitimate lifestyle they knew was being taken off the market.
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No.1058146
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No.1058156
>>1058130
There's no beating the guy who voiced Easter bunny Hitler.
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No.1058158
>>1058056
Don't question the will of God.
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No.1058221
>>1058035
>Spends all day sperging about other race and how they are corrupting everyone.
>Secretly wants to tap that brown ass.
Seems about right.
>Reminder that Esmerelda is responsible for every bad thing that happens in the movie
Can't remember why Frollo wanted to arrest Esmeralda in the movie to begin with.
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No.1058223
>>1058221
Illegal immigration, public indecency, resisting arrest, probably some other shit like theft.
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No.1058226
>>1058221
>>1058223
Witchcraft. Frollo couldn't handle that black magic.
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No.1058238
>>1058221
He just wanted to fuck her, so he burnt half of Paris. He was an incel with authority, and not like Quasimodo who was just an incel.
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No.1058266
He was more or less the only Korra villain who wasn't a raging progressive. Actually showed brief worry for preserving society
against degeneration.
He goes to the trash quickly enough. No doubt about that. But he was honestly the only villain who with some tweaks could have worked as a foil to Ozai (water bender to fire bender, rightful ruler to usurper, violates the proper order of the world to protecting the proper order of his lands, feared by his children to having the sincere loyalty of his children).
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No.1058319
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>>1058266
In my headcanon, Desna & Eska are both girls.
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No.1058320
>>1058319
They were poorly characterized like just about everyone else besides Lin and pre-Whored Out Varrick.
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No.1058363
>>1058351
No one cares, fag
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No.1058367
>>1058130
Rattigan is such an underrated villain.
>>1058266
Idea is nice enough but they don't do anything with it is the major problem.
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No.1058369
>>1058367
Among other problems, Unalaq's actions needed more of a connection to the world as established at TLA's ending. None of the villains in LoK besides Kuvira were really rooted in the situation at Ozai's defeat. Amon had some odd non-bender supremacy movement, Zaheer yapping about chaos, and Unalaq talked about tradition but turned out to be more or less a JRPG major villain.
I actually did do some thinking on how he could have worked. He needs to be established as fighting wars on the continent (with no Republic City or its forces), seek to counter the Fire Nation's influence on the world but especially on the Water Tribes (after all, Sozin claimed to be helping the world). Have the civil war start from the enemy cutting deals with the foreigners. Be researching bloodbending and other "dark arts."
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No.1058427
>>1058369
Would he have his own spy ring in this version?
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No.1058429
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>>1057971
disappointed in all of you
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No.1058435
>>1058427
Maybe. The point is that he's yelling about tradition and the old ways dying out but it has more context within his world's history without resorting to retcons. The Fire Nation terrorized his kind and to this day have been interfering with the rest of the world, the Earth Kingdom might poke their nose, there were plenty of succession movements and bloodshed in years since TLA's end akin to what happened to after decolonization or even Rome's fall. His neighbors let themselves get warped by foreigners instead of doing the warping themselves. So he acts.
I left out that the part about him setting up his brother is thrown out. Obvious retread of Ozai's dynamic with Iroh (and perhaps another attempt to cash in on Zuko being such a hit by making Tonraq an exiled prince). Either he's the ruler by birthright since he's the elder brother, Tonraq relinquished it, or Unalaq got his position through some other legitimate way.
Funny how for how progressive Bryke, they are surprisingly sympathetic to colonialism that isn't racist and are rather wishy-washy on nationalism. Kuvira was the only villain in LoK who could be called an anti-colonialist nationalist but was transparently meant to be Girl Hitler with her opposition rallied around an obvious puppet king for Raiko.
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No.1058693
>>1057971
>mfw they're not going to release the English version probably.
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No.1058697
>>1058693
You posted the best version of the song but neglected to post the K.Rool voiced version. Let me cover you on that.
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No.1058704
>>1058697
>English version
My man.
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No.1059004
I always felt VV Argost from the Secret Saturdays was a really underrated villain. His over the top voice and demeanor was so fun. That and how clever he was.
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No.1059008
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No.1064511
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No.1064547
>>1064288
if you've watched Wakfu you know no words need be said
if you haven't watched Wakfu, watch at least the first season. Never have I wanted a villain to win more than Nox
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No.1064570
>>1058221
Frollo didn't like gypsies because they were a bunch of thieves and heathens, quasimodo's parents in fact jumping the border to get to paris in the opening of the movie, which is painted as frollo unrighteously convicting criminals, although it is clear they had just committed a crime.
Esmerelda did a number of things wrongly in the minutes frollo witnessed her
>performing an erotic dance in the town square
>preventing a lesson from being taught to his adoptive son and freeing him from his restraints, which he ordered her not to
>physically assaulting him after getting up onto his chair and getting uncomfortably close to a public official, which is grounds for having her put in the clinker for a good while alone
His downfall was he fell to sin for it, though he turned that lust into a pure spirit of justice that burned away all the heathens, finally found the nest of criminals under paris, and was prepared to burn them all at the stake in front of the church as a sacrifice for god. In truth, frollo was trying to burn away all his mistakes and make good on them, but then he was burned for it.
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No.1064874
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