No.1024385
How is it that no one designing these fucking movie costumes realize that simplicity is better? I get it, simple spandex wouldn't work but there's still a hundred different ways to design a nice costume that isn't so fucking busy. Like all these suits with just random lines lines lines everywhere for no reason other than to make the costume look busy. Then you have costumes where they have this intricate texture that usually just makes them look like walking basketballs. Then finally we have the tacticool costumes. Costumes trying to be "realistic" but can't help looking just as overdesigned as the rest.
No.1024387
I think the short answer is that it's not that easy to strike the right balance. Simplicity looks great on paper, as an illustration, but if you're trying to build a real 1/1 scale suit/prop you need some granular detail so that it still looks "real" when you see it up close. The main problem with most of the costumes in your OP is that the designers didn't exercise enough restraint in detail placement. You want to have a few areas of concentrated detail to draw the eyes (generally speaking, areas like the head, collar, chest, etc. Areas where you want the viewer's eyes to rest and focus).
It's not just film either. Look at pretty much any sci-fi flavored AAA vidya and you'll see the same sorts of problems. Way too much fine-level detail with way too little focus and intentionality.
No.1024390
>>1024387
>>1024385
We already have a costume thread please check the catalog next time.
No.1024394
>>1024387
I agree, look at the first and fourth cap costumes, they're quite simplistic, almost no details, it's missing some bits, but otherwise it's "faithful", and they look like shit.
No.1024399
>>1024385
>>1024385
>>1024387
>>1024394
You guys know we already have a thread right?
>>999760
No.1024403
>>1024399
>>1024390
That thread's subject is about why costumes in these superhero movies don't stay on full and rather have the actors face constantly shown. This thread is about costumes being overdesigned.
No.1024404
>>1024385
I hate the overdesigned look, too. And it's bled into the comics in recent years – the last few redesigns of the major DC heroes, especially, feature a proliferation of pointless lines on the costumes.
No.1024405
>>1024404
Tell me about it. It was an incredibly jarring problem in New 52 especially.
No.1024408
>>1024405
> It was an incredibly jarring problem
Who in hell's name talks like this, what type of faggot are you?
No.1024420
>>1024408
>Who in hell's name
No one speaks like this either you endlessly shitposting retard.
No.1024422
>>1024420
So wanted to be called a nigger instead or maybe faggot?
No.1024423
>>1024422
Maybe he wanted to be called a niggerfaggot.
No.1024425
No real problem with Deadpool or Wonder Woman. Spidey could have used some restraint, but isn't as bad as the others. And I like more then one Cap outfit, but don't know how to deal with his modern aesthetic. Flash and Aquaman are easily the worst of the bunch.
No.1024428
>>1024425
Maybe Spider-man's isn't the worst but then you look at the Iron Spider outfit. Lines all over the blue parts of the suit. The gold was perfectly fine but the black lines on the blue are just there to take up space.
No.1024429
>/co/ pretends to be experts in character design, the thread
No.1024430
No.1024437
Avengers 1 Cap is probably the most comic accurate, and by far the worst, to be fair.
No.1024440
>>1024437
I kind of like it but it is still busy in areas where it didn't need to be. Like those fucking boots.
No.1024445
>>1024437
Most accurate is the dance troupe outfit just missing the scale armor. Avengers 1 cap is the worst agreed.
No.1024446
>>1024440
I wish they'd give him his head wings back. His helmet looks dorky without them.
No.1024450
>>1024446
Definitely. If there's one florish he needs, it's the wings. Same thing with Superman. He needs his red strong man trunks. It just isn't Superman without them.
No.1024457
>>1024425
Deadpool was the worst example possible OP could had picked since his original design is even more overdesigned
No.1024459
>>1024385
Not Marvel/DC-related but the new Power Rangers movie is probably the worst case of what you described, they polluted the costumes so much with overdesigned shit they forgot the most important part, which is how their helmets should have the motif of the creature each one of them represents.
And I don't even want to mention what they did with the Megazord.
No.1024460
>>1024399
Why bump a thread that's been dead for months instead of just making a new one? This place doesn't need to look deader than it already is?
No.1024461
>>1024460
>Why bump a thread that's been dead for months instead of just making a new one?
Its the rules and makes the catalog efficient and less cluttered, just ask the "Questionable Malcontent" guys, they could make a thread every time they hit bump limit but they wait either to 500 or 700 posts to do it. But of course I wouldn't expect an Anon like you to understand these things.
No.1024496
>>1024460
Don't bother trying to reason with the shitposter.
No.1024623
I think the Homecoming and Deadpool costumes work well.
No.1024641
>>1024623
They're the least busy. Probably should have replaced the Homecoming suit with Iron Spider instead.
No.1024653
>>1024641
While the homecoming suit works, it serves too illustrate the need to shove lines were they aren't necessary. It's understandable if they're used in otherwise simply costumes that don't have much textures to make them work, but spiderman's outfit really has no need for them.
No.1024654
>>1024653
That's a good point as well.
No.1024671
>>1024459
I thought there was no way I wouldn't see a live action Power Rangers movie, but then I saw the costumes and realized I couldn't sit through any action movie that though "cyberpunk S&M club" was a good motif for our action star outfits.
No.1024751
>>1024653
Well its more Iron Lad considering its a Stark suit not a Peter one.
No.1024836
>>1024653
The problem with designing a live action Spiderman suit now is Sam Raimi already did it perfectly, and just using that design is almost like admitting you have no new ideas, and you're giving up.
No.1024837
I guess it also hurts merch sales. You want kids to buy the new toy.
No.1024839
>>1024836
>Sam Raimi already did it perfectly
I prefer Stark's eye design. It makes it look more like in the comics.
No.1024841
>>1024836
Even Amazing Spider-man 2 tried to copy that suit because they knew it looked better. Now if only they bothered for comic accuracy with the villains.
>>1024837
Kids haven't bought toys as much as in the past for years now. The real market is the adult collectors. Or the Japanese. Because SH Figuarts has years worth of figures for Marvel and DC that the japs eat up.
No.1024842
>>1024385
Texture gives it taste, Jap Karman Rider is a classic.
No.1024843
>>1024842
Kamen Riders rarely if ever have that kind of detailing texture on their costumes though. Not even the modern Riders. Closest thing to that is the SIC line of figures.
No.1024844
>>1024839
I agree with this guy
No.1024845
One example of detailing I thought worked was the movie Phantom costume. It had this really subtle H.R. Giger-like faded tattoo thing going on that wasn't overpowering, and preserved the classic design, made it a little more interesting without overpowering the aesthetic.
No.1024846
>>1024845
See that's creative and works for the character because of his tribal roots and popularity amongst real world tribesmen.
No.1024850
>>1024385
> I get it, simple spandex wouldn't work
No.1024853
>>1024850
Let me rephrase. It wouldn't work in today's times. Casual audience would think it's too cheesy and only for kids. While directors and other hollywood higher ups would think it's too simple to even take seriously enough. So you'd just get a cheap boring mess.
No.1024856
>>1024853
I hear ya.
I think a lot of the problem is massive budgets that give designers sufficient time and money to keep fiddling and fiddling and heaping on details for months sometimes, with studio feedback all along the way that further muddies the end result.
Then there's the merchandising angle, and the notion that new product needs to look "better" than the stuff from the last go-round.
No.1024857
>>1024856
That for sure has a lot to do with it. Always wanna be the one responsible for the next big look or interpretation. But trying so hard to be unique and different can lead to all these ugly ugly results. It's sad really.
No.1024858
>>1024850
That does look kind of ridiculous though. Not flattering on the manboobs.
No.1024867
I liked how the Brandon Routh Superman suit had these little hexagons for texture, but I thought the Henry Cavill suit took it too far and made it look like bubblewrap, and they kind of carried that over into Tyler Hoechlin's suit.
No.1024873
Spiderman's should look cheap and ridiculous like >>1024853 said. At least for his origin movie. Peter made it himself with his aunt's sewing machine for crying out loud. It's a miracle the thing even holds together. If you want to add stuff to it, maybe big patches would be thematically correct.
No.1024877
>>1024873
I have to give them create at least for this homemade suit for Homecoming. It's a pretty believable looking costume for a kid with too much time and no budget to make.
No.1024880
>>1024877
Well it is bizzaro Ben Reilly.
No.1024886
>>1024877
Looks… too hot for anything else than winter days
No.1024889
>>1024886
I have no idea what New York whether is like so I can't disagree or not.
No.1024890
>>1024889
High outliers as the towers basically act like an insulator.
No.1024891
>>1024890
But think about it. Spider-man is gonna constantly be climbling and swinging at high altitudes. So it makes since to stay warm.
No.1024920
>>1024891
True enough. I like the costume already even if that specific material is a pain in the ass to clean and absorbs sweat like it's no one's business
No.1024927
>>1024867
>that plastic clasp for the cape in the third pic
Did they run out of budget?