/co/ - Comics & Cartoons

>>1021190

> learn when they stop making money

That would require them to stop being subsidized out the ass by parent corporations or even national governments.

>>1021188

>Mediocre trash gets pumped out every single year, so why is worth getting mad at it all?

It is difficult not to, when that mediocre shit drowns out the good stuff and brings overall quality of a medium down, harming it as a whole. Mediocre capeshit is what crippled entire medium to begin with, and if people got mad did something about it back in the 70s, we would not be here now.

>What would be the least destructive method of bringing up the quality of media while bot succumb to those that made it stale?

Ideally, it would be making something so innovative and superior to current trash, that people and industry just could not ignore it. That would motivate creators to mach or surpass it, with ones unable to do so falling to the sidelines. However, that is not too likely to happen in current comic book industry as it is. Marvel and DC prop hacks like Bendis who cannot sell a comic that does not have a popular cape name attached to it, it is hard to get independent publishers to give you a chance without having the right connections, and Comixology Submit might soon become Steam Greenlight for comics.

Another option is infiltrating comic book industry, and changing it from the inside. That approach would take ages, and require multiple people with aligning goals to actually have an impact.

Main thing that needs to change is public's perception of comic books. Most still think that it's all about capes, with occasional artsy comic about social and personal issues with unappealing art surfacing once a decade or two. If Netflix's and other streaming networks research and green-lit projects are to be believed, there are a lot of people starved for anything that isn't police/medical/lawyer procedural or generic romance-drama shit. These people could get some of that from comics, but they do not. Probably because they are not familiar with the medium, and do not even know that there is more to comics than capeshit.

Pricepoint is another important factor that needs to change.

Digital seems like the most feasible option at the moment. You do not have to worry about printing and distribution, and it is apparently profitable enough for European publishers to finally translate their books and for small, digital only publishers to emerge.

Almost every board on the site feels like a different version of /v/. I am not asking for 100% smiles and blissful ignorance but its just another level of pessimism. Its not just this place everywhere is just pessimism.

>want video game crash

>want traditional games to crash

>want comics crash

>also throw random political events into the mix

I am not exactly happy with current happenings either but you know what I do? I try to find old shit I remember or find shit I skipped over like for example I decided to watch the entire English dub of a fucking Taiwanese puppet show becasue I thought why not.

>>1021323

Pessimism is a thing because you can't be critical of most things elsewhere on the internet. If you go to other online communities, most people are happy to eat shit that companies serve them up. If you dare to criticize most things you get banned, especially if you dare to say something about moderator's favorite writer or franchise.

>I am not exactly happy with current happenings either but you know what I do? I try to find old shit I remember or find shit I skipped over like for example

That's what I do as well. Whenever I find something good, I make sure to recommend it and spread the word.

>>1021323

The pessimism wouldn't be so bad if most people here tried to be constructive in spite of current events instead of just opting to bitch about the same old shit.

>>1021325

>that doesn't change the fact that an industry crash would be a good thing.

Why? At worst, a crash would fuck everybody except DC/Marvel and make things worse, not better. All this crash talk just comes across as doomsaying detached from reality.

>>1021385

There isn't really a way to be constructive at this point other than voicing how shit things are and not giving the current industry any money or attention until they decide to listen, or just letting it crash and burn so it won't get in the way of or devour and corrupt new, good content. Nothing at this point will change for the better until the assholes who're entrenched in positions of power over everything are removed and replaced by decent people who give a damn.

If you have a better idea, then feel free to share it with the rest of us. If not, then feel free to just ignore the rest of us and have your own conversation(s), or leave. You have no right or power to tell us to stop bitching about the same old shit, and to do so anyway makes you come across as a naive optimist who's blind to the current state of things at best, or someone with an invested interest in said state of things continuing as they are without opposition being expressed.

>>1021323

The problem with burying your head in the sand is eventually you run out of air.

>>1021421

How about giving the good writers, the actual well-written webcomics and the such attention? I mean Poppy O'Possum was well received and even had some relative fame until the author went full tumblr.

>>1021446

Good writers and comics are either ignored or corrupted by the current industry and culture despite our attempts otherwise. We have collectively witnessed this happen repeatedly over the past few decades, with no signs of progress - only glimpses of the greatness that could be that become rarer and rarer over time.

>>1021451

>Good writers and comics are either ignored or corrupted by the current industry and culture despite our attempts otherwise

Nah people are obsessed with the bad to really pay attention to the good. We got tranny comics posted up the ass but the one or two good webcomic get completely ignored. I'm pretty sure there are more like that one webcomic with the zombie waifu that's slightly memey but still good overall. If we stopped talking about the fucking faggots for once and actually DUG or at least attempted to take the wheel ourselves we wouldn't need to be waiting on no one.

Really you are worse than the faggots at /a/ not wanting to learn nip because "its too hard, I'd rather wait for subs."

>>1021469

Name a good webcomic.

Show us the comic you've created.

>>1021470

>Name a good webcomic.

Empowered

It Hurts

Steve Lichman

Lackadaisy

Gone with the Blastwave

Blasternation

want me to go on?

>>1021574

Only as long as you're complaining about people here not talking about the good content in the current comics industry. If you want to talk about that, nothing's stopping you from making threads and posting - but don't try to make the rest of us feel bad for not doing the same.

>>1021579

>>1021469 has a point tho. Theresa lot of obsession with mentally ill trannies and very little appreciation of good content, and thats by korean embroidery forum standarts. >>1021470 for example apparently is so much in his own bubble he sarcastically asked for good webcomics assuming there actually exist none, because he never actually bothered to look past the trannies.

>>1021591

Hate to break it to you, but you've been responding to the same person across those multiple posts. I didn't ask you to name a good webcomic out of sarcasm because I can't stop focusing on the bad ones - I asked you because YOU'RE the one that wanted to talk about them, but you're such a passive-aggressive coward that you have to try to get other people to start the conversation by shaming them for talking about something else.

>>1021593

so you were just pretending to be retarded, gotcha

>>1021470

>Name a good webcomic.

Dr. McNinja and Brawl in the Family. You didn't say anything about ongoing.

>>1021598

I was prompting you to actually start the conversation you wanted to have.

>>1021470

"Last Halloween"

Go fuck yourself, I bother since I want to enjoy some damn good comics, even If I have to make one myself to do so.

>>1021660

Does 8chan even have OC anymore?

>>1022093

There's still drawthreads on >>>/v/ and >>>/tg/ but they're missing lots of old drawfags.

>>1022096

I used to drawfag on /tg/. I quit because they didn't care for my work. I still occasionally drawfag on /v/, but it's rare on account of real life shit.

>>1022099

>because they didn't care for my work

Happened to me too. They've got their favorite drawfags or something, or maybe I just really was that terrible.

>>1022105

>When an artist is already getting non-retarded commission work on a regular basis, there's just no reason to sift through drawthreads for tolerable requests.

That's rightly? assuming the drawfags take commissions elsewhere. Nowadays it seems a lot of them have a tumblr, a twitter, or even an FA page and don't even need to peruse drawthreads anymore for interactions.

>>1022108

I don't even take commissions. I just don't see eye to eye with the regulars anymore. Which is actually fairly depressing to me, because I do still like lurking there.

>>1022186

If the answer is more competition, then why haven't comic book companies up their game as they lose profits but manga sales skyrocket?