No.1010603
Now that Butch Hartman has reached his kickstarter goal, what are your thoughts on Oaxis Entertainment.
No.1010606
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>>1010603
>Now that Butch Hartman has reached his kickstarter goal, what are your thoughts on Oaxis Entertainment.
Hey it’s another soyboy mad that butch Hartman isn’t liberal cuck.
No.1010612
>>1010606
Why are European semi trucks look so faggy compared to Australian and American trucks?
No.1010621
You could explain what Oaxis is supposed to be.
No.1010624
Butch Hartman was doing a kickstarter?
No.1010625
>>1010621
Butch Hartman started a streaming company marketed towards families. YouTube kids app with original context actually safe for kids.
No.1010627
>>1010612
Most European with the exception of Germans can’t drive because of high EU tax laws. That why European cars and roads are so small compare to America and Australia.
No.1010628
His cartoon needs to be put out of its misery already.
But this, it doesn't really effect me in any way.
I don't know why people are getting so butthurt about it.
It probably doesn't effect them either. Reeks of insecurity.
No.1010631
>>1010625
And he's supposed to make this happen with 268,134 dollars?
>>1010628
Anon his cartoon has been put out of misery, why do you think Fairly Oddparents has been moved to Nicktoons? Everytime there's a cartoon that Nickelodeon dislikes or just doesn't want to air anymore, it gets dumped on Nicktoons before it eventually disappears entirely from the schedule.
No.1010633
>>1010603
regardless of what you think of his cartoons, he does make an effort to entertain. Starting a streaming service with the intention to provide kid-friendly content would be a noble endeavor, but Netflix already has a children's account option
really though, all that competing streaming servcies will do is the same thing that happens when FPS games compete for the CoD audience–they fail because you're not going to lure away anyone who has already established their brand loyalty in an economic environment with finite money
No.1010634
>>1010632
I found it funny that PieGuyRulz made a 1 hour rant complaining how Butch would not pander to LGBT degenerates like himself and his friends.
No.1010635
>>1010634
Why does that fucking matter? A cartoons primary purpose is to entertain, not shill.
No.1010640
>>1010635
Pieguy and EyeofSol has been launching a hate mob towards Butch in order to slander his career and they must be exposed for their faggotry.
No.1010641
Pieguyrulz hates memes confirmed and likes NIS America's changes to Danganronpa.
No.1010642
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Butch Hartman is a cult according to these two YouTubers.
No.1010645
I had no idea this was happening, but I wish him well. I don't think I've ever really taken to any of his shows, but they always seemed like solid kid entertainment, which feels like the most revolutionary thing now.
No.1010647
>>1010645
Danny Phantom was decent, along with the first few seasons of Fairly Oddparents, everything else he made is either mediocre or shit.
No.1010651
>>1010634
>>1010641
>>1010642
No one cares about your e-celeb drama.
No.1010652
>>1010640
This. Beware of a kike slidestorm in the coming days.
No.1010655
>>1010651
For sure. Theyll try and come here and shill their shitty videos.
No.1010657
>>1010655
The upcoming shit storm will come on KYM first because one of Pieguy's fans said that they would give Butch a page on there.
No.1010658
>>1010631
>it's already dead
Oh, good. That last season was hard to look at.
No.1010659
>>1010631
The Nickelodeon Swamp will be drained in no time.
>Cyma - Gone
>Cyma's partner - Gone
>Butch - Quit
>Zeus Cervas - Fired
>Casey Alexander - Fired
>Hillenburg - Dying of ALS.
No.1010664
>>1010658
Yeah, it makes the otherwise mediocre seasons that came before it look like gold.
>>1010659
What did Stephen Hillenburg do? And even with all those people gone Nickelodeon doesn't look to be getting much better, at most they might be plying the waters to see if pandering to their old fans is profitable.
No.1010674
>>1010664
Hillenburg did nothing wrong.
It is just that Nick uses the show he created as a marketing tool to line up their pockets.
Without SpongeBob, Nickelodeon could be forced into a position of bankruptcy that would put Nick into a position that would either kill them off for good or bring Nick into a new Golden Age by reshaping the building.
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>>1010659
Aren't you forgetting someone?
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>>1010676
Not true, Hillenburg still did the artwork and approved some of the post movie episodes behind the scenes.
No.1010701
>>1010612
I think it has something to do with the much narrower old roads used across the continent. A few americans we had here experienced culture shock in regards to car size and smoking.
>>1010627
What in sam hell are you talkin bout, boy?
No.1010702
Wasn't this the guy who worked on Kim Possible before Danny Phantom? And if so, how come he never went back to the more fluid and notblocky style?
No.1010784
>>1010702
You're thinking of Stephen Silver.
No.1010788
>>1010628
This. I'm not a big fan of the guy's cartoons, but the amount of people coming down on it in any manner bigger than "Yeah, this seems stupid", comes off as fags with some kind of vendetta. It'd be one thing if he was taking over some franchise that didn't mesh with his style, but he's just doing his own thing. What's the big deal? I question if he can make it work and get enough companies on board to make it worthwhile for subscribers, but I wish him luck.
>>1010679
>fired
He made a stealthy escape
No.1010826
>Nico Colaleo and others politely ask people to stop harassing and threatening them over cartoons
>"FUCK YOU, LEARN TO TAKE CRITICISM"
>"I DON'T NEED TO BE A CHEF TO KNOW WHEN I TASTE SHIT HURR HURR"
>"STOP MAKING EXCUSES TO BE LAZY AT YOUR JOB"
>Butch Hartman scams people out of $250K and outright insults someone criticizing his ill-though-out streaming service
>"Honestly, who cares."
>"He knows what he's doing."
>"FUCK OFF PIEGUYRULZ" (actually, he can fuck right off, he's been acting like a smug prick about this whole thing)
I want to burn this fucking website to the ground.
No.1011035
>>1010632
Could have said this 2 years ago.
No.1011037
>>1010603
>>1010633
>>1010788
Econfag here.
Putting all the e-celeb moralfaggotry aside, Oaxis is trying to compete in an industry rigged against new players like it. An important question that needs to be raised is where Oaxis Entertainment is going to get the capital to fund the production of its content. If it's gonna have this huge catalog of family-friendly content, how is it gonna fund any of it on a subscription-based business model? Even if every single one of Butch Hartman's 777,697 subscribers subscribed to Oaxis for $9.99 a month, it would only be able to profit $7,769,193, which, when reinvested back into the production of every single piece of content it has, is breadcrumbs, and nowhere near enough to fund quality content. This means that the vast overwhelming majority of Oaxis content can only be unremarkable trash.
Even Netflix, with all its clout and the millions of dollars in cheap credit they've been getting, is struggling to make quality content that returns on their investments. Their catalog can only be unremarkable trash too because their business model can't maximize profit to use as a high amount of capital. But they at least have the advantage of acquiring the distribution rights of famous shows and movies. What does Oaxis have? Absolutely nothing. and the fact that it's implementing byzantine television standards and practices for their content is only going to hold it back and give consumers all the less reason to subscribe to it in favor of other subscription services that go the extra mile.
All in all, Oaxis is not economically feasible long-term. Subscriptions is a very restrictive business model. And Butch will have to face the music when his subscription service goes down the shitter and files for bankruptcy.
No.1011039
>>1010987
>2nd webm
Good God, what a fucking twat. No one can criticize a mediocre cartoonist unless they've 'done something'
No.1011068
>>1011037
You're too smart for this board.
No.1011084
>>1011037
Oaxis could go the way of Nintendo by having good first party titles from Butch himself assuming he is able to pull off quality content and having piss poor third party content.
No.1011108
>>1011084
No way he's able to make that many cartoons and live action titles at once by himself.
No.1011234
>content creator who made things that were hugely popular but ended up dragging on way past their prime
>later comes out as an elitist cunt who thinks they're above all criticism
I find this comparison to be comically accurate
No.1011237
>>1011234
Unintentionally accurate, but still accurate.
No.1011263
>>1011234
Does that mean Butch will eventually start to use his popularity to shill his political opinions into the head of his braindead fans?
Probably not since being outspoken about your political views when you're not a leftie is career suicide
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>>1010659
>Zeus Cervas - Fired
>Casey Alexander - Fired
Aren't these two the ones that wrote that spongebob episode where plankton goes suicidal?
No.1011282
>>1011037
> it would only be able to profit $7,769,193
The problem in your thought process is that you seem to use the same cost production that a cartoon is produced by nick, CA or other companies.
No.1011284
>>1010987
>first webm
Internal joke that can only be misinterpreted by the internet.
>second webm
>>1011039
>No one can criticize a mediocre cartoonist unless they've 'done something'
His point is half wrong half valid. Someone who did work in the field has obligatory more value that the neet who spergs on AMBs. The thing with a work of art like animated cartoons is that everyone gets to have a taste of not only the art itself but the scenario, saying that people can't criticize the media is like saying that people can't say that they like or do not like the new samurai jack.
>>1010987
>Third webm
Religious believes put aside this is actually pretty wholesome, he wants to work, make something different from the pickle rick garbage that we have everyday, his intentions seems good….I would pay to have this, maybe it is what we were looking in the "I miss wholesomeness" thread.
No.1011285
>>1011084
The difference is that Nintendo, like other game developers, have the sustainable business model of selling their games directly to their consumers, and expanded their market worldwide. We're back to the questions of where Butch is going to get the capital to produce good content. Butch doesn't have the capital to make quality shows, regardless of his credentials, and Oaxis is going to have a hard time funding such content when it can only profit so little.
>>1011282
High production costs are paramount in the quality of content. While they may not be everything that guarantees quality, they allow creators more freedom to realize their creative visions to their fullest potential. It's nearly impossible to make a quality cartoon on a low budget. You can't hire experienced staff or animate the show with an appealing, yet expensive art style. You become very limited in what you can do. There are some exceptions, but there's only so much an experienced creator can do when he has so little to work with.
No.1011286
>>1010657
>KYM
It's already happening.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/butch-hartman-oaxis-streaming-service-controversy
The problem with kym (besides partly being biased with political mods) is that it's a clickbait website who's influence as gone so high that they are paid to push content. The website isn't or the lulz and memes it's just another datamining manipulation website just read the privacy policy it's all here:
https://knowyourmeme.com/privacy
I've been reading it for long enough to know how they work, it's like reddit difference is that it's masked behind the lulz and memes, meanwhile the mods and admins are adding more likes or upfronting shit that nobody asked.
No.1011287
>>1011285
>Butch doesn't have the capital to make quality show
>It's nearly impossible to make a quality cartoon on a low budget
I disagree. Define quality animation. Define low budget.
Even gratis animation on youtube have better quality than modern animation like lets say Steven universe. It's not of course 50 episodes of 20 minutes but hell I'll prefer a 5 or even 2 minutes well done short than wasting 24 hours of my life watching garbage like SU.
>You can't hire experienced staff or animate the show with an appealing, yet expensive art style.
This is true but when you are experienced YOU KNOW PEOPLE you made friends you have relations that will help you to achieve an objective.
No.1011299
>>1011287
>I disagree. Define quality animation. Define low budget.
All High-quality animation looks appealing, feels "real", and serves to advance the story effectively. A good example would be a fight scene that communicates the combatants', personalities, motives, and relationships, without either of them uttering a word, by conveying this information to the audience through animating it through the characters' actions. If the animation looked ugly and incompetently-made, the messages would be poorly conveyed to the audience and they would lose interest or feel repulsed by what they're seeing.
Animation is a tedious and expensive process, it costs 1-5000 dollars for one minute of animation, and that's only if the art style looks simple enough to animate. The cost scales up with the complexity of the art style. Nobody wants to be paid less than their profession's market price, especially when others can pay them more. It's not greed, it's supply and demand. As for web animators, their works are passion projects, and they spend several months working on good-looking less-than 10 minute long shorts. Again, the cost of scaling up is the reason you don't see shows with the art styles of your favorite web animations.
>This is true but when you are experienced YOU KNOW PEOPLE you made friends you have relations that will help you to achieve an objective.
Once again, no one wants to paid less than what they're worth. Butch may know experienced people in the industry, but it won't matter if he can't pay them what they're worth. Now, if their goal is to make something along the lines of Butch's previous two shows, which were cheap and unremarkable in every aspect from art style to writing. Fine. They can pull it off. But if we're talking about something innovative and groundbreaking like Motorcity, or Avatar: The Last Airbender, which costed around a million dollars to make per episode. Good luck. Those shows were great because they had the capital to pay experienced creatives what they were worth, and those creatives delivered. But Butch and his team doesn't have that much capital to make anything groundbreaking, so what they can make will most likely be shittier than Netflix's catalog of animation and be even more forgettable.
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>>1011284
>His point is half wrong half valid. Someone who did work in the field has obligatory more value that the neet who spergs on AMBs.
If he was saying "You don't know what you're talking about. That's not how making cartoons works" that would be a different matter. Cartoons are hard to make and executive/corporate involvement can drastically alter how a show turns out. However, that's not what he's saying here. He's saying anyone who hasn't "done something" like he has can question or criticize his work, as if he's a peak auteur at the top of his game, rubbing elbows with the elites of the animation industry.
No.1011326
>>1011286
>Spongebob nigger twitter tier memes
>4gag meme arrows off of 4gag
>any comment defending Christianity is downvoted into oblivion
Looks like G*d's chosen ones are at it again
No.1011645
>>1011286
This is why there should a an alternative site to Know Your Cancer.
No.1011648
>>1011286
The website has become a website to shove forced memes including shitty Trump nonmemes to normalfags throats rather than actually documenting memes.
No.1011697
>>1011234
Heres another fun fact: Butch can't write for shit.
Yeah he's got the concepts but when he's left to write an episode it always ends up being horrible.
The entire final season and movie of Danny Phantom was awful, Butch brought down FOP by thinking "If I add more characters that'll solve the problem!", and so many more problems.
No.1011732
>>1011645
You mean like Encyclopedia Dramatica?
No.1011790
I'm Butch Hartman and I created your childhood
No.1012211
>>1010625
>>1010632
>>1010652
this. Butch is a noncucked, Christian animator. kikes HATE Christians with a unbelievable burning passion and Hollywood is filed worn kikes, so no wonder there is/going to be backlash and an attempted character assassination of Butch.
No.1012216
>>1012211
>News flash: you can be a Christian and still a sleazebag.
No.1012218
>>1010603
I'm a little non-confident that this will be successful, but if he pulls it off, he pulls it off. The service doesn't have much value to me personally, I barely even watch Youtube in comparison to some other people I know. I'm sort of wondering what the audience is for this to be honest.
No.1012229
I assume it'll probably crash and burn like all of these attempts to crib in on Netflix's monopoly eventually do, but I can admire his attempt to actually bring cartoons to kids in a mostly positive and kid-friendly manner. Maybe not saying that it'd be Christian themed was a bad idea, transparency is key in these kinds of situations, but it's mostly just fags and degenerates butthurt at him at this point and if you're part of the 'Youtube Commentary Community' like Piecuck you deserve the gas chamber anyway.
More power to him, I hope he makes something that isn't shit for once.
No.1012314
>>1011037
>inb4 he'll just out-source his shows to some filipino / malaysian animation studio just to save moolah
I'm calling it now, since the standard for kid animations is pretty low.
Also i don't think he can compete with free kid videos on youtube, i've seen alot of kids these days just watching Youtube videos and boy, how do i even begin to describe their shit tastebut they'll forget it eventually, just like those 60-70's saturday morning cartoon shows
Again, youtube videos are FREE, how can you compete with that? It's not like the kids would notice much difference of quality
No.1012415
>>1012321
>missing the point
>the post
No.1012440
>>1010987
Mary Kay Bergman died of suicide. Blaming someone for another person's death is a little too edgy for someone who does kids' shows, but blaming someone for another person's suicide is behavior befitting that one kid in gradeschool who will stab you if you have an opinion he doesn't like.
>don't criticize if you haven't done it
what an elitist prick, also he is obviously insecure about this going on and on about it
>implying rising suicide rates are a product of culture being more open about suicide
This guy is a fucking retard.
>muh time with parents
If you want to blame something for suicide, blame the loss of socialization in general. Blame the way school is a grind. Blame the lack of third places where kids can interact. Blame the hyperactivity and hypersensitivity of social media. Blame the lack of nuance and face to face interaction. Don't blame the loss of muh family values, you reactionary fuck.
>I'm going to save kids from suicide with my cartoons, and you'll believe me because muh religion
I unironically hope someone shoots this cocksucker. What a scumbag.
No.1012522
Butch apologizes in his letter and PieGuyRulz is still on a quest to ruin his career. This man is clearly a pedophile that gets a high off of little kids on SBMania who wants to target Butch in order to hide his sick pedo fetish like the kiddie diddler he is.
No.1012525
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>>1012218
Butch Hartman has confirmed that Oaxis is not a faith based network.
No.1012588
>>1012522
Commentary channels are a bigger cancer to the animation community than tumblr/KYM/tvtropes at this point.
No.1012607
>>1012588
Well at least he's not talking about Spongebob for fucking once.
No.1012609
Smells like money laundering.
No.1012614
>>1012607
Personally I think it was better when he was talking about SpongeBob non-stop this incident just revealed PieGuyRulz's true colors as a leftist pozzhole loving fedora wearing Redditor.
No.1012617
So is MrEnter vindicated or is he still a massive assburger?
No.1012618
>>1011697
>Butch brought down FOP by thinking "If I add more characters that'll solve the problem!"
That was an executive decision, not necessarily his.
No.1012624
>>1012522
Seems like legitimate questions tbh. Hartman has been sketchy as fuck.
>>1012588
Say whatever you want about this guy's politics but he's pointing out pretty huge red flags here.
No.1012667
>>1012655
Not defending an eceleb, but were any of his points on shitty spongebob episode quality that wasn't him just bitching at mean characters valid?
No.1012703
>>1012617
His editor was one of the ones piling on Butch. Enter didnt want to appear bitter Oaxis kickstarter BTFO his so he used his editor as a mouthpiece.
No.1012726
>>1012703
>some noname youtube faggot with a kind of warm room temperature IQ has an editor
No.1013083
>>1011286
It's also became more news article than meme catalogue. Does the image gallery have anything good in it?
No.1013093
>>1012726
His videos look shitty with an editor. But before he had an editor, he was incapable of cutting his dialogue audio at the right places without his next word starting. He used Windows Movie Maker in 2010 and up and always cut in wrong places so you were able to see garbage frames.
Also, he added TL;DR notes at the bottom of the screen for seconds WHILE he was talking, making it impossible to read.
In short: Every retard can become a Youtuber and get decent clicks it seems. UNLESS you put effort and thought into it.
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>>1013093
Oh and also - he announces breaks which takes as long as he'd normally take for his videos.