/co/ - Comics & Cartoons

They started shoving cartoons that weren't Spongebob onto it, if it doesn't make Spongebob numbers then Nick considers it a failure.

>>1006397

I knew Nickelodeon always had that problem, but I didn't think it also extended to Nicktoons.

wasn't someone who worked there recently outted as a paedophile?

>>1006401

No? There was a pedophile at Nickelodeon, but not Nicktoons.

Remember that in modern business you can't just make money, you have to make all of the money. So you are going to only play what brings in the most viewers per capita investment. Add on top of that copywrite laws protect and incentivize companies to just sit on IPs indefinitely.

>>1006408

But that's what bothers me, Spongebob isn't gonna keep raking in this many viewers if it's all that they show, and even if it does it doesn't hurt to have at least a little bit of variety.

>>1006409

>One of our favorite LGBTQ couples

You mean the only LGBTQ couple, because Nicktoons didn't have anything in the way of gay shit up until this shitfest came along.

>>1006411

That might have been true back when people watched TV. Now ratings are just from people throwing something they're familiar with on, or tuning to something for their kids/pets. Why else do you think TTG is so 'successful'? Nobody watches it, they just tune into CN because that's what they throw on in the background when they're doing something else.

>>1006412

Then TV really needs to die out.

>>1006408

That and the fixation on constant, accelerating growth is killing American creative industries. Majority of currently milked IPs came from experimentation and taking risks. Today, the risk-aversion and obsession with raking in the every penny possible leads to killing IPs that used to be reliant moneymakers.

>>1006414

Television is barely alive. It is mainly propped by boomers, cable companies forcing people to buy cable package to have access to non-shit internet, and sports.

>>1006416

You think TV is gonna die out soon?

>>1006431

If they ever do make another Avatar they're gonna have to make Korra non canon.

>>1006433

Does anyone even remember that?

>>1006394

CEO stopped caring for cartoons.

>>1006458

Anon, they never cared about the cartoons, they were always in it for the money, but that doesn't explain why they only show the same fucking cartoons.

>>1006464

https://assets.amuniversal.com/091c7f409ee3012f2fe600163e41dd5b

>>1006471

>Reality is becoming satire

How the hell do I get out of this timeline?

>>1006464

Anyone and everyone has always been it for the money. Anyone who thinks otherwise is beyond cucked.

>>1006474

Yes,(except for people who make fanfic and other shit like that) but that doesn't mean that you can't also be in it for the art, money is always important, but it'd be wrong to say that people don't have pride in their work and creations, even if it's made for a quick buck, I don't see how that's relevant to the network though, they never wanted anything other than money, I.E. viewers.

>>1006416

and don't forget restaurants that have televisions

>>1006478

And airports.

>>1006472

Reality was already satire. A few years ago I read in one of Scott Adams's books that he basically just repeats stories fans send him about their work, and I assumed he was either secretive or bad at describing his process of exaggeration. Now that I've got a full time job and have to read memos from my company's upper management, I see people really do make laughably retarded decisions and punish anyone who points out when they don't work. If there's any consolation in realizing this, it's that you never have to take a bullet for a man who's shooting himself in the foot.

>>1006394

Wild guess: Economic recession hit them hard, but ratings were still passable for shows like Spongebob and FOP. So Nick, as a company, realized they could half-ass things and funnel most of their resources into promoting their easiest to produce, longest running shows instead of wasting time trying to keep old shows relevant. They were rewarded for their laziness and never looked back.

>>1006502

That's not much of a consolation anon, I can laugh at the misfortune of idiots and other people who brought their misfortune upon themselves, but not when they drag innocent people into their mistakes.

>>1006503

But Avatar Wan is already canon anon, and i'm not sure you can get much farther into the past then that.

>>1006505

Sounds very likely, but that doesn't make sense when you realize that Nickelodeon and Nicktoons still screwed over cartoons even if they had really good ratings, like Making Fiends.

>>1006506

Good ratings doesn't mean a series was profitable or, more specifically, that the merch sold… Of course, cartoon studios can be quite dumb and just simply not release any merch and then wonder why a property isn't making them money.

>>1006513

Anon, Making Fiends was cancelled after six episodes, I don't think that's enough time to tell whether a series is profitable or not.

>>1006518

Thinking about how the creator of that got fucked over so bad makes me sad.

>>1006519

I don't think we'll ever see a cartoon get screwed over as badly as Making Fiends, it makes Nickelodeons treatment of MLAATR look like their bootlicking of Spongebob by comparison.

>>1006416

>Today, the risk-aversion and obsession with raking in the every penny possible leads to killing IPs that used to be reliant moneymakers.

They, like every other big business, are actually focused on limiting competition and minimizing risk for them, even if it means lower profits. Competition means spending more capital to gain a competitive advantage and taking risks, which is why television and subscription services are being kept alive despite being shitty business models - the goal is to maintain their cartel over creative industries, and those two models excell at keeping out comepetition.

>>1006418

It's only a matter of time, television, as it exists, is an extremely moronic and inefficient model for delivering content to consumers and turing a profit. That isn't to say subscription services are any better, but there will be viable alternatives to these two models as more people cut the cord and realize Netflix' catalog is utter trash.

>>1006555

Dan might have made a ton of crappy live action TV shows, but that was on Nickelodeon, not Nicktoons.

>>1006556

What do you think is gonna replace TV and subscription services?

>>1006557

I've said this before on this board and I'll it again. Global platforms where anyone can pitch their ideas for their works and get funding for them, should they be promising. Content would most likely be funded by investors and regular backers alike, and creatives would be allowed to sell their works however they see fit, but most likely, they'd sell their content on a model akin to transactional video-on-demand, where you pay for the content you want to watch individually, rather than have access to an entire catalog like what Netflix does.

It may seem strange to the average consumer to pay for individual pieces of content. But once they notice the drastic differential in quality between the content on these new platforms and the ones on legacy platforms, they'll support the high-quality content and the independent creators behind them.

>>1006562

Oh yeah, you did suggest this before.

>>1006506

>>1006503

>>1006510

It would be better if the slate LOK made was wiped clean, and all the bullshit that happened, including modernity, retconning, spirit portals, harmonic convergence never happened. And that if there's a third series, we can have a setting more similar to ATLA and that everything that happened in Korra's time was fixed or left vague for this new timeline.

I'm down for the apocalypse idea, especially if it resets the technological advancement and modernity of the world.

>>1006416

I still watch tv, usually as filler or background noise or for shows we've recorded. The rest of my family use it for sports, as you say. It's less prevalent now, but I doubt it'll die anytime soon.

>>1006394

Time.

anon some of us used to watch shows like Pete and Pete

>>1008428

Thats a pretty vague answer.

>>1006394

Nick has a chance to improve now that Cyma is gone.

>>1006510

I doubt a third series would even get made.

>>1006411

Not going to mention the Loud House.

>>1009219

So instesd of having just one fag couple that can choose as their favorite they have two.