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File: c68406dd03f6f5e⋯.jpg (9.36 KB, 480x360, 4:3, 2041881498854242134.jpg)

 No.1004846

>Thus their decedents the Maximals rule we Predacons

>A DAY OF RECKONING FOR THOSE WHO MADE US SLAVES

What the fuck was going on during Beast Wars Cybertron? Was this just Megatrons god complex talking or were the Autobots/Maximals straight up enslaving the Decepticons/Predacons?

 No.1004849

>>1004846

Nope, just Megatron being delusional. I mean, fuck…the Predacons have a ruling body too like the Maximals on Cybertron.


 No.1004852

File: 94142d1b3ede81e⋯.gif (82.32 KB, 400x300, 4:3, transformersdinobotrage.gif)

>>1004846

Take a good look at today's Germans and you'll have some idea what happened.


 No.1004857

>>1004852

no real life politics please keep it cybertronian only


 No.1004859

File: 0829961487dba47⋯.jpg (33.65 KB, 600x480, 5:4, transformers dinobot is a ….jpg)

>>1004857

I'm not trying to spout any /pol/ stuff. What I said is applicable. In Beast Wars, the Decepticons were considered too dangerous to be allowed to gain enough power to ever again be a threat, hence Megatron's attempt to travel back in time and kill the Autobots before they could win the war. The same thing happened to Germany. After both world wars, they were watched very carefully and they were punished financially to keep things from getting back up to world war fighting strength. So if that's a ban, then ban me, but I'm not saying anything that isn't in the history books. I'm sure the Autobots kept the Decepticons under close scrutiny, post-war, and in the current comics, the Decepticon veterans are mostly homeless and nearly starved for Energon.


 No.1004860

>>1004857

Kill all Techno Organics

Species War now


 No.1004863

File: eb10c1560661bff⋯.jpg (74.74 KB, 367x518, 367:518, 148612417476451751.jpg)

>>1004859

>the Decepticon veterans are mostly homeless and nearly starved for Energon.

Because the rest of the cons never saw the bigger picture


 No.1004865

File: b4a70f3d5a85b54⋯.gif (79.46 KB, 300x230, 30:23, transformershoundbuttsecks.gif)

>>1004860

This guy gets it. Fleshlings get the bullet, too.

>>1004863

Swindle's always been one of my favorites. You always got the impression that he'd sell Primus to Unicron for enough Shanix to buy his own planet.


 No.1004877

>>1004846

Which part of the Canon? there's been novels and comics that all go..everywhere when expanding the universe.


 No.1004896

File: 513299c4fdb6e94⋯.jpg (61.18 KB, 467x721, 467:721, 10312312.jpg)

>>1004846

I thought the show's portrayal of Ravage hinted towards a cold war type of situation.


 No.1004898

So, I did a double check…apparently the Predacon's ruling body during the Beast era is called the Predacon alliance, made up of many factions like the original Preds, the Tripedacus Council (who may or may not be actually be connected to the Decepticons, possibly Spawn of Unicron or Cybertronian Empire) and a couple of other factions

Of course, this info is from the Japan exclusive guidebook…and may or may not be canon.


 No.1004935

>>1004846

Considering Megatron's end game during Beast Machines was to turn everyone into a mindless drone under his command while he dicked around as a fucking control console, I don't think "slavery" was something he was ever had any real beef with.


 No.1004936

>>1004935

he has*


 No.1004939

>>1004935

Beast Machines was made by a completely different team that was told to disregard Beast Wars and not look up stuff relating to it so most people don't count it as canon either considering how much of a mess it was.


 No.1004951

File: b716183f10e0191⋯.jpg (3.46 MB, 2736x4864, 9:16, Beast Wars Omnibus Front.jpg)

File: 2ca003d2526d1f9⋯.jpg (3.71 MB, 2736x4864, 9:16, Beast Wars Omnibus Back.jpg)

File: a7924d196f1e18b⋯.jpg (3.57 MB, 2736x4864, 9:16, Beast Wars Omnibus Text.jpg)

>>1004859

Kinda, it went something like this:

>Autobots and Decepticons fight

>They fuck over Cybertron in the process

>Autobots eventually win

>Decepticons are still around but are given the post war German treatment

>Some time later a Decepticon claims to be Megatron's successor pops up and we get the same shit all over again

>Cybertron is FUCKED this time, not enough energy to go around

>It's decided that the only way to save the species is to downgrade to much smaller forms, using animals as the secondary form becomes popular

>The two groups are renamed to Maximals and Predicons

>They form a grand council to rule Cybertron and beyond

>Preds get a seat and are planning their return

>Plot of Beast Wars eventually happens

I probably left a lot of shit out or got something wrong, my Transformers lore is rusty

>>1004898

>Japan exclusive guidebook

Kinda, I got something that apparently contains that and more


 No.1004964

>>1004939

Damn, I knew it fucked up Beast Wars Canon. But I didn't know it was that disconnected.


 No.1005050

>>1004951

It's more Cold War than that stupid Beast Wars Uprising story where Autobots and Decepticons are assholes and Maximals and Predacons are forced to fight for their amusement. Hell, the titles for the story are…cringy at best. Lest ye forget they shoving in some degenerate into the story.


 No.1005067

If the Preds hated the Maximals so much why did they reprogram Maximal protoforms instead of just destroying them?


 No.1005073

>>1005067

Not much of a point to it, those protoforms aren't a threat unless the maximals get their hands on them; it's much better to convert them to your cause instead and get more troops.

>>1005050

> Beast Wars Uprising story where Autobots and Decepticons are assholes and Maximals and Predacons are forced to fight for their amusement

Eh? Never heard of that, it's not the featured comic in the book I have but from the remark about degeneracy I can guess it's from the new comics that IDW is pimping out.

>check out the TF wiki to see how bad BW: Uprising is

>inspired by the Ferguson riots

>not all Megatrons

What in the name of Primus.


 No.1005081

>>1005073

Yup…and don't forget the degeneracy

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Screwball


 No.1005082

>>1005073

Or there's a story literally titled "Trigger Warnings" and "Cultural Appropriation"


 No.1005089

File: 9b6c6b730a73e62⋯.png (87.6 KB, 515x428, 515:428, 9b6c6b730a73e62402b604fbb8….png)

>>1005081

>>1005082

I don't get it, of all the franchises that they could use for soapboxing why the fuck did they choose the one that's about giant robots that transform in to cool cars and combat vehicles fighting each other, and why these ones? There was already stuff they could've used, like how Cybertron is dying and running out of energy because of all the warfare, could have had some kind of green or anti-war message, and didn't they already tackle class/society issues earlier? I recall something about how there was a caste system on cybertron where your job depended on what chassis you had, big guys do manual labor, flyers have jobs based around flying, etc, so why not just use that one?


 No.1005097

>>1005089

And even then, the caste system thing was because of their origins as products made by the Quintessons…but if I do recall, the caste was from IDW, the Functionist thing where everyone is stuck with jobs based on their altmodes.


 No.1005114

>>1005089

It's the same reason they targeted G.I.Joe, anon. They want to take anything boys or men liked and twist it, for power and control, to demoralize you, to say "nothing is beyond our reach, everything will be ours, nothing belongs to you!"

That's why they try to take everything, including Transformers.


 No.1005117

File: 10d6879b985b5ac⋯.jpeg (30.87 KB, 395x405, 79:81, 10d6879b985b5ac049f1378ce….jpeg)

>>1005089

>big guys


 No.1005120

Can somebody tell me the Transformer timeline?


 No.1005159

>>1004935

Beast Machines fucked Megatron

>He never hated his beastform

>There were never any mentions to his obsession with technological perfection


 No.1005162

Not to mention he was able to plunk maximal and pedacon sparks into bodies of his own making, so why not his own? Also, everyone was brainwashed and had to be forcibly returned to normalcy…except Rhinox, who Primal allowed to remain evil as his "choice." Fuck that was a cancerous cartoon.


 No.1005167

>>1005162

Blame the folks in charge. Read somewhere that the the powers that be wanted BM to have nothing to do with Beast Wars.


 No.1005168

>>1005120

This is from what I remembered…remember, Transformers has a lot of different continuity but usually it goes Generation 1(That's the Third Great War era), sometimes Generation 2 (Cybertronian Empire and Neon era) and then Beast Era (Beast Wars…and a lot of flipping over backwards for Beast Machines). But some continuities have different timelines. Like the Wings Universe replaced G2 with a weird version of Machine Wars (and shoving in Obsidian and Strika during what's essentially post Season 4 of the G1 cartoon) AND a weird amalgamation of Transformers Universe, Wreckers and Omega Point in that one Timelines comic with the space pirates.


 No.1005170

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Headcannon

They passed up Landfire….for that name.


 No.1005194

>>1005089

Some of them are kinda weebish, and Transformers is among the most japanese things they could grab


 No.1005198

>>1005170

Gotta show you're hip and cool with the fandom.


 No.1005205

>>1005162

>>1005167

Thrust when he was the last Veichon left called out Megatron for making the other generals and himself from the sparks from the Primals Maximals


 No.1005207

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

All we have of Pre-Beast Machines Cybertron is this


 No.1005255

File: a0ce12ed2e2c614⋯.jpg (15.04 KB, 198x328, 99:164, 46d1d85816e689648a39290863….jpg)

>>1005207

>a prequel to Beast Wars

I never realized how much I wanted this

>>1005117

Oh youuuu

>>1005162

>>1005167

>>1005205

>a new team takes over a beloved series

>they make the characters do nonsensical bullshit that they'd never actually do

>the series in general is nothing like what it used to be

>everyone, especially the villain, is dumber

>pseudo-philosophical message is tacked on, bonus points for being very out of place- a message about nature in a show about robots on a machine planet?

Beast Machines was sign of things to come, wasn't it?


 No.1005258

so i was never that huge into transformers. what is the difference between autobots/maximals and decepticons/predicons?

is it an ethnic difference? a philosophical difference?


 No.1005260

>>1005258

We barely know shit but the overall themes is that Maximals are

>Mammals

>Aquatic-life

Predacons are

>Arachnids/insects

>Reptiles/dinosaurs

and that they were regular Transformers back on cybertron but they were just smaller due to energon shortages


 No.1005261

File: 3c5da55bbea887e⋯.jpg (12.35 KB, 265x265, 1:1, 01105541746145454456.jpg)

>>1005255

Just blame Dan Dido for Beast Machines

However Beast Machines was meant to lead into another series called "Trans-Tech" this was based on the entire idea of Techo-Organic Transformers. The one interesting thing War/Machines introduced was that Transformers had the ability to to transformer into anything (Planets/Animals) and not just cars.


 No.1005263

>>1005260

thanks anon

so just black and white?


 No.1005264

>>1005263

Not entirely Dinobot was a predacon but turned since megatron has no HONOR. Blackarachnia turned since she got KNOTTED and Rampage albeit he still was an insane murderer found solace in a failed abortion before she died


 No.1005276

>>1005207

Well, there's also Dawn of Future's Past….but that's a bit iffy. Instead of working for Cryotek, Megatron's crew was funded by G1 Divebomb.


 No.1005277

>>1005276

Almost forgot that also in that book, Airrazor and Tigatron are cops back in Cybertron.


 No.1005299

>>1005277

Well that explains how their relationship would form instead of being the rejects the Maximals dont let inside


 No.1005306

>>1005299

Those two chose to roam the land in beast mode rather than stay at base.


 No.1006228

File: 2f0be8658c52fb4⋯.png (68.31 KB, 874x837, 874:837, transformers is literal ga….png)

>>1004857

Too late.


 No.1006230

>>1006228

Of course TVTropes would suggest that.


 No.1006233

>>1006228

Where do you people even find this shit? Do you go looking for it so you can repost stupid bullshit here?


 No.1006237


 No.1006238

>>1006237

That's not healthy anon, you could end up like Common Filth.


 No.1006369

>>1006228

Yes…it's not about slaves rebelling against their overlords..nope, Autobots are Communist Revolutionaries and not bots trying to fight for the freedom of their people or anything.


 No.1006370

Inferno TERRORIZE




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