/arepa/ - Venezuela ★

Venezuela is a meme country, it has been shit since its creation 200 years ago, and you could easily see it on its history. The only good thing the country has is the retarded amount of natural resources.

>>4125

thanks

We too are split on Maduro: half of us think he is a moron and the other half think he's a piece of shit.

This is a selfhate >>4125

Yes, memezuela is a left dictatorship, with the addition that the government party works more like a kind of Mexican cartel than a pure communist dictatorship

That obviously makes us feel very frustrated and sad

>>4128

Venezuela had/has good individuals but as a contry, it had never worked.

>>4128

Well that sucks,so other political parties are prohibited by law?

>>4127

Based. the left wing parties usually defend venezuela saying none of it was their fault and some even argue its exagerated the conditions there.

>>4130

Most of the political parties are technically banned, but in any case the "opposition" parties are currently not backed by anyone in the society, many believe that these parties have even agreed to coexist with the dictatorship.

>>4130

All major political parties in Venezuela are left wing, they are allowed to exist, but it does not matter.

>>4128

The worst thing is not the dictatorship itself, but the economic conditions imposed on us.

For example, last week I went to the ophthalmologist to see how far my myopia had progressed. Surprise, I need new glasses.

Only the crystals cost 65 million Bolivares. Keep in mind that the minimum salary is 5 million bolivares, equivalent to 2 US dollars.

>>4132

>Most of the political parties are technically banned, but in any case the "opposition" parties are currently not backed by anyone in the society

Goddam it that fucking sucks,i feel bad for your people.

This country is 100% going to go on the same way in like 10-15 years max.

I hope things get better..

>>4134

>Only the crystals cost 65 million Bolivares. Keep in mind that the minimum salary is 5 million bolivares, equivalent to 2 US dollars.

thats insane.

>>4121

>>4130

>some just blame everything on the u.s.

>the left wing parties usually defend venezuela saying none of it was their fault and some even argue its exagerated the conditions there.

These kind of people deserve to die on the most painful way possible because some of them i guess really know what's happening here and prefer defend this actual madness called Venezuela instead of just shut the fuck up.

>>4138

The exchange rate in this very moment is around two thirds of a minimun wage per dollar, which is around 3.500.000 Bolivars per Dollar. With the "new" currency, it's just three zeroes less, so 3500 Bolivars per Dollar.

It's currently rising, however, and it might reach five million by the end of the week.

Don't get so excited though. Prices are roughly the same. A burger is going to cost you between one and two dollars, which is cheap, and some hotels are going to be around a dollar a night if you find them (some are decent), but anything even remotely connected to the government is going to cost you top dollar.

A passport, for example, is around 800 to 1000$ if you want it done quickly, which is to say, between a week or two, since otherwise it takes months.

If you come, I'd advise you to find a close friend, somebody you can trust to guide you around, and for the love of God don't mention you're from outside to strangers. It's beyond dangerous.

You can exchange currency with locals, but you'd be hard pressed to get inside with cash, since you are likely to have it taken from you at the airport by the guards. You could instead find someone who buys and sells dollars directly from banks, such as Wells Fargo.

>>4135

>This country is 100% going to go on the same way in like 10-15 years max

Really?

>>4148

I swear to god it is going to yes

Its literally unavoidable at this point. It isn't just that we mostly have left wing and far left parties(and the right doesn't even exist here,besides the social democrats that larp has right wing) it goes deeper than that(economic reasons and more)

Like i said i give it 15 years Max

>>4139

> i guess really know what's happening here and prefer defend this actual madness called Venezuela

they do,its just the typical "the left cant do nothing wrong" and "when its a left wing dictatorship its ok" type of rhetoric.

Tbh its almost like they are preparing for the future,in case their potential future socialist dystopia goes wrong.

>>4121

>some just blame everything on the u.s

Those people are smelly, dumb, chavista scum. Stay away from them.

Lord modoro is really shit, venezuela is a hell.

>>4143

thanks for answers, anon!

Shit sounds rough as fuck, even though Puerto Cabello harbor wasnt exactly safe for foreigners back in the mid-90s either..

I have no plans of returning to fair Venezuela for the forseeable future, but was hoping to find a way to transfer some dollars and have a few stacks of bolivares sent my way in return.

Do you know if the postal system and its international connection is totally fucked?

I was thinking it was gonna be quite easy to find someone who was willing to ship me a few hundred banknotes in return for some dollars/bitcoin, but I guess thats gonna be really fucking hard if infrastructure is going to shit

>>4155

i do.

>>4160

Banknotes? you mean Venezuelan money in cash?

>>4168

Precisely.

>>4169

How will you pay? It´s not easy ship that.

>>4170

can transfer through a company, or something else like btc i guess. Why will it not be easy?

>>4170

for clarification, I'm interested in a big handful of the old bolivar fuertes, not the current currency

>>4174

Cause it is illegal, but not impossible.

>>4176

Do you mean like this:

https://steemkr.com/spanish/@soymanu/coleccion-de-billetes-y-monedas-2-mis-bolivares-fuertes

New ones doesn´t even exist

>>4178

yeah, like that, or earlier - i thought i could avoid some potential legal trouble by waiting until now, since i thought the new currency was implemented

>>4177

is it illegal to send old currency out of Venezuela?

I'm looking to get these for nostalgic reasons, and because of a personal fascination for inflation.

>>4180

Those are still in legal currency, and that is less than 1$ >>4178

Older than that, like this https://venezueladeayer.com/2015/01/billetes/ are easy to ship. But it is expensive the courier service.

>>4182

cool, do you know about a company like this?

also, is there a difference between the series of banknotes in availability/will 35 usd buy me significantly different amounts?

>>4185

nice piece my dude!

what's your price?

>>4186

>>4187

>>4187

I'm afraid I dont know nearly enough about it(and cant find any info on it right now) to pay that much right now. I might be interested later though.

>>4189

I guess you should start with something cheap and regular, not something colectible like >>4185

>>4189

On this page there is good information about Venezuelan banknotes of all times. This specific link has the details of the copy that I showed you

https://www.numismatica.info.ve/es/billetes/bbdv20bs-da.htm

>>4192

Anyway, I can also send a few bolivares fuertes if you wish, I have a good amount saved.

>>4194

Ujum mano, primero la que frinchi y luego la que frao. No joda negro tienes que saber hacer negocio. Seguro el chamo ya se achanto.

Por eso es que estamos como estamos.

>>4196

Berrro negro estoy desentrenado, el unico negocio que he hecho en los ultimos 6 meses fue comprar harina pan bachaqueada

>>4190

yeah, that's what i'm here for. I have a few old ones, but only buy those for aesthetics, not any real academic interest.

>>4192

I'll look into it, but i'm not buying it now

Coño me dieron ganas de ver el precio de la historia.

>>4184

… are you trying to use the paper?

I don't think it matters if you tell the truth here. Colombians bought or money to falsify dollars, so it's illegal to move money, period. Like the other anon said, it's illegal, but not impossible.

How much money do you want?

>>4204

No mano, en muchas unidades si es un beta, yo lo he intentado enviando de manera fraudulenta por colombia y peru e igual los decomisan.

>>4209

Lo se, pero igual es posible. El gran peo es que son pocas las personas que pueden moverte esa cantidad de dinero, y no son exactamente la clase de personas con quienes te quieres relacionar

>>4204

Lol, i am really just a guy with a fascination for banknotes, and who wants a memory of a place i spent a bit of time as a kid. Some of it will go to my collection, and some of it will be dug down in a time capsule.

As for the amount, something like this >>4210 or maybe slightly less. How would you proceed?

>>4217

Squattin'

>>4217

F

>>4217

coño papa que bello ese squat

Totally dictatorship

>>4121

These questions are complete bullshit. "How are things over there? It's rough, isn't it?"

Of course it's rough you fucking dipshit. It's basically fucking africa over there. People are starving, crime runs rampant in the streets, people are raped and killed in the hundreds every single day, there's no water, no money, days are long and hot and the blazing sun peels your skin as you walk to the shambled bus stop at seven in the morning to work a ten hour job and go back home at six on an empty stomach to find nothing in your fridge and boredom in your mind. It's hell. Stop asking about hell. It's fucking stupid. Every single time someone finds out I'm Venezuelan I get bombarded with these stupid questions as if they didn't know how bad a third world shithole can get. Fuck you.

>>4128

Let's see

>Bolivar starts a war with Spain, reason?

<"Spain refuses to give me muh heritage"

>Try to make a deal with the British?

<"No they are on Spain's side".

>How to finish Spain?

<We are going to use guerrilla tactics then retreat, wasting as many lives as possible

>Miranda wants a truce with Spain, what should we do?

<We should sell him, this war is to death, maybe he will get away like he did before, if he doesn't then… who cares?

>The ammount of our troops is too low to keep going, what now?

<Give the childs some guns and send them to die for this land, maybe some day these no-names will get a day called "The day when dispensable suckers helped me to win" or "Youth's Day" i don't mind either

>We got told that "x" commander disagrees with you, what are your orders?

<Send "x" to an expedition to the middle of nowhere where is easy to be killed, no one will mind.

>We won! what is your next order?

<I'll free the rest of south america and unite it, then i'll call it something original, like… "United States of South America!"… nononono, i thought of something even better, "United States of Venezuela"

>Ummm… Sir… Venezuela and Columbia are having dificulties, do you mind returning?

<I'm busy, i got a country named after me, i'm now trying to get the Peruvians to accept me

Yeah, things were fine 200 years ago

>>4137

Certainly so, but even some of them make something good, for that reason we still have the Raúl Leoni Dam… or more like what's left of the Simon Bolivar Dam

>>5026

You forgot the blackouts that last for around a minute or sometimes just planned ones that happen at random hours of the day and this shitty tropical climate where is hot even when it's raining.

>>4121

We are not in a dictatorship, we are just ruled by people that want for those who disagree with them to summon their persona, make themselves taller and become an hero, the rest must play the hunger games.

>>5043

<Send "x" to an expedition to the middle of nowhere where is easy to be killed, no one will mind.

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>>5043

Sometimes i wonder why i did born in this shit.

>>5043

>>5046

x = sucre confirmed?