/animus/ - Avatarfag Circlejerk

>>2164592

Hey, Spec

>>2164592

They are fighting a battle in Egypt!

But how will the viewer know they are fighting a battle in Egypt?

They are fighting a battle next to the pyramids, obviously!

But why would they want to fight next to the pyramids?

So the viewer knows they are in egypt ''obviously!'

Did everyone die?

>>2164598

lookslike it

>>2164595

Kitty!

>>2164597

Yee. How else would they know?

In 1971 Bill Grates invented Michaelsoft, wouldn't it be cool if I could remember my dingus password? That would be cool!

>>2164599

This is kinda shitty

you'd think most people would be home on a Sunday evening

>>2164600

speccy!

>>2164600

That rifle is very interesting.

Looking at it, the carrying handle is super impractical, but it makes more sense when it is meant to be carried by two people

>>2164601

What if I dont want to come from the dead?

>>2164604

You think I wanted to come back and relive this illness we call life?

>>2164605

I doubt it, but the english in that sentence is odd.

>>2164604

Which handle, the one above the scope? Also the rifle comes apart into two pieces.

>>2164606

How do you figure, pilgrim?

>>2164607

That's what I mean.

Put together, there isn't room to hod it between the handle and the scope, but the piece that contains the action has a handle that slides up after you separate the portions while the barrel portion is carried by another person.

>>2164608

When you have 'come' on it's own, it is generally a command to whoever you are talking to. 'returned' or something would make more sense

>>2164609

Not at all even a little bit. If someone tells me they come from somewhere then I know that they are saying they are the ones that are doing the action, not telling me to do the action.

It is also not on its own, it is paired with the word from. Meaning just traveled or returned from a place.

>>2164610

Not when punctuated like that.

If you were going to make that sentence use the word come in that way it would have to be:

I, Lazarus, come from the dead. The way you have it may have a second 'I' assumed before the comma, but the comma is used to break up what would normally be different sentences.

i.e.

I am Lazarus. Come from the dead.

>>2164612

Even when you punctuate it like that, the comma acts as an indicator of more information is being added. If you were to break it into two sentences you would have to put a subject into the second sentence, otherwise it would make no sense at all.

Here is an example of what that would look like.

This is Mary. She comes from Detroit.

It has completely changed the way it reads, the flow and sound of the sentence.

"I am Lazarus, come from the dead" reads with much more brevity, it sounds more somber, letting you know EXACTLY who this person is and what they are about.

This is a man who is introducing himself and telling you where he is from. If you were to ask someone else the questions "who are you" and "where are you from" they would answer in a manner similar to that.

Hi I'm Lazarus, from the dead

Nobody ever really uses the word 'come' in these cases, idk where you got it

Cato is supposed to be studying rocks but he's here judging ur English

I write papers, so it is important for me to english

This is an INFORMAL CONTEXT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

You got me there

>>2164616

See, that sounds too cheerful. This is not a good thing, his coming from the dead. It is an absolute horror that he has come from the dead.

>>2164617

Here is Mary sounds like he is presenting her as some sort of nonentity.

Returned sounds like he was on a journey. I tell people all the time I come from California when they ask me. I don't say I returned from, because that would imply that where I returned TO is my home and where I returned FROM is where I was visiting.

It is not only technically correct, it also sounds much better given the circumstances of the situation and the feeling it is supposed to convey.

>>2164618

Again, that sounds too cheerful.

See above, I tell people when they ask that I come from California. I even specifically say "come from."

Where I got it is The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock, a poem by T.S. Eliot.

>>2164619

Judging incorrectly. He completely fails to grasp that language is as much about SOUND and FEELING as anything else.

>>2164620

You don't know it that well, obviously.

>>2164621

No, "I am Lazarus, come from the dead" is entirely formal.

Let's look at another example, this time of something else, that is supposed to be very serious.

"You have cancer of the lungs" is how it should be said. "You got cancer in your lungs" is also technically correct, conveys the exact same information, but carries far less weight in terms of seriousness. So saying "You got cancer in your lungs" is the incorrect way to say that based entirely on the sound and the feeling.

>>2164623

This is Mary?

That part of the sentence doesnt matter

But you don't say "I am X, come from California"

You say "I am X, from california"

I can say I come from North Carolina, but when it is abbreviated, the 'come' is always dropped. And it makes sense that it comes from a poem, because poems don't try to emulate how people actually talk or structure their sentences. Most of it is bullshit word art.

>>2164624

But I dont know anyone who would say 'you got cancer' instead of 'you have cancer' outside of my country friends in the south.

>>2164622

You could even be a really bad boy and say incorrect things about rocks here if u wanted

ur teacher won't know

>>2164623

>See, that sounds too cheerful. This is not a good thing, his coming from the dead. It is an absolute horror that he has come from the dead.

Hi I'm horror made flesh!!

☆*: .｡. o(≧▽≦)o .｡.:*☆

:cheerful:

Location: the dead

>arguing about sound and feeling

>not just arguing proper grammar

>Ishiggidydiggerydoo

Except Eliot was born and raised in the US. Missouri, specifically.

>>2164625

I would and have said "I am X, come from California."

I very rarely drop the "come" to just have "from," that is a very strange thing.

Poetry used to be the way people spoke.

I know people who say "You got cancer," educated people, not country hicks. Back home in California and here in Texas.

>>2164628

>not arguing sound and feeling as being important to language

>>2164626

The D/H of SMOW is +375 per mille

I feel dirty

>>2164629

You are very unusual, I have never heard anyone talk like that before.

And just because poetry is the way people used to talk does not mean it is how people talk today, and I thoroughly believe that just about any written text should be approachable for as much of the public as possible. That means writing in ways that would sound normal if you heard someone talking like that on the street.

>>2164629

It's not. We impart that onto the language based on how it is used. We tend to view those who use proper grammar, which includes proper sentence structure, as being posh. Likewise, we view those who use improper grammar as being uneducated. That alone is where the 'sound and feeling' of the language comes from.

>>2164630

I am no at all unusual. I hear people talking in all manner of ways that seem a little strange. It is entirely dependent upon the person. And if you can't approach a poem in your native language then you should have failed your English courses in schooling and should go back. If someone talked in poem form I would think it slightly odd, but I would be able to understand them very easily.

>>2164631

Not at all, got and have when used in the cancer example convey the same information and are both grammatically correct. However, the have carries more weight and seriousness.

>>2164632

Yeah, but I dont write so you specifically can understand it

It does make sense in a poem, but the kind of papers I write would not work very well if much of the language was in the form of poetry and it would just be offputting to talk to someone who speaks in poetry in casual conversation.

See, an intrinsic part of language is a second deeper meaning that is never expressed but is still present. That deeper meaning is just as important as the surface meaning. You wouldn't want to talk in a relaxed, yet grammatically correct way in a formal or serious setting, just as you wouldn't want to talk in an overly formal or serious way in a relaxed setting. There is also clinical language, which you would only use in a clinical setting, like writing a dissertation or whatever.

I was once yelled at by an English professor for using overly formal and clinical language in an essay. Not because it was grammatically incorrect, but because it was too sterile, if that makes any sense.

I think overly formal language is not good for anything other than legal documents. Dissertations tend to be super dry, but there is no reason for them to be so. You can put forth just as much information while making it more approachable for an average person. The best scientific writers are the ones who are actually fun to read

>>2164633

Yes, the kind of papers you write have to be clinical as it were. You're writing science papers and whatnot. It would be odd to do that because it wouldn't feel right. Just as it wouldn't feel right for any other permutation of that sentence in that poem.

I know people who speak in a very sing-songy sort of way that they tend to unintentionally rhyme, I know plenty of people who speak broken English, and I know plenty of people who, no matter what the situation, are always overly formal in their language. It have no problems understanding any of them.

Also the whole come from thing is quite Old English. It is, technically, a proper way to say it, but dropping the come and leaving the from is just as proper in modern English. No different than the grammar rules of contractions.

>>2164632

'Got' is not at all the same as 'have.'

Got is the past-tense get. In it's most proper usage, if you want to use it with your example, you would say 'I have got cancer.' It is slang to drop the 'have' in that context. In this way, you are passing on the message that you have been afflicted with cancer.

Have on the other hand is a present-tense verb. I have this, I have that. When you say 'I have cancer' you are relaying that you are currently afflicted with cancer.

While they convey similar meanings, and are easy to confuse, they are not at all the same word, nor are they interchangeable.

I'm an English major and I hate this thread

>>2164630

Do you like feeling dirty?

I'm gonna let u in on a little secret:

Language rules are a BIGG fat meme

As long as the people you're talking to understand what you meant, you've communicated successfully

>>2164638

I'm sorry you wasted your money.

>>2164636

Read my last post.

Clinical and poetry/sing-songy are the two extremes on the spectrum. I think there is very little that should adhere to an extreme in any case, even beyond language.

>>2164638

eh

the D/H of smow is actually 155.7, I think

it is 155.something

>>2164639

This is mostly what I'm trying to say

>>2164639

most of the people who care about that stuff are pretentious cancer

Hey, I'm only as pretentious as Hillary Clinton!

Wait.....fuck

>>2164635

Really? Because I've read plenty of very formal sounding essays and etc. that are quite interesting to read.

>>2164637

Have and got are synonyms, they just convey different feelings.

It isn't slang to say "I got" at all. It is grammatically correct. It wouldn't be "I have got" it would be "I have gotten" and there is a difference there.

Tenses have very little to do with it. To say "I got crabs" implies that you received crabs and still have them. To say "I have crabs" is to say that presently you have them. If you wanted to say that you no longer, but did previously have crabs you would say "I had crabs."

They are not the same word, however they are synonyms and are interchangeable if you care not a lick for the feeling of the language.

>>2164641

There are many ways of speaking that are correct, it's all about context. And anyone who passed their English classes in high school should be able to understand any kind of English barring certain clinical terms or slang words. And if you can't you're a fucking moron and need to go retake your classes.

I'm a Wish and I hate this thread

>>2164649

what do you hate most about it?

>>2164649

Okay.

Crap, am I pretentious cancer now?

>>2164648

I read so many papers nowadays that "formal sounding" is just par for the course.

There aren't very many scientists whose papers are inherently interesting to read outside of the experiments they were running

Why do you keep going back to accusing people of not passing highschool english?

>>2164649

I wish that you would save it

>>2164650

I hate that Tracer cock.

>>2164651

Hi Tracer.

>>2164652

It's irredeemable.

>>2164640

Yeah it's a dead language

>>2164641

Idk what this means so technically ur communicating unsuccessfully right now

>>2164642

-pets u-

>>2164643

The term might even catch on and get added to the dictionary : ^ )

>>2164644

Excellent name, better than Fool's

>>2164649

-kissu-

>>2164653

why's that?

>>2164654

Please don't kissu me, I only like kissu-ing one person and it's not you.

>>2164655

Because all he does is "Hm."!

>>2164654

it keeps mysteriously disappearing so i had to spice it up

>>2164652

I'm not saying you didn't. I went to school with morons who passed English and couldn't fucking tell a verb from a noun. I'm saying you shouldn't have passed, like they shouldn't have.

>>2164656

that does get annoying

>>2164653

Hm.

>>2164653

Fuck, what do I do now?

>>2164654

-purr-

>>2164659

Yeah, that's what I thought too.

>>2164660

I KNEW IT!

How you doin'? :3

>>2164661

Seppuku.

>>2164662

gives me writers block tbh

>>2164662

Fairly well.

>>2164662

I dont have any mini-katanas

>>2164663

You're telling me that when someone doesn't help contribute to the conversation that you run out of things to say? :^)

>>2164664

Oh yeah? Big plans for the fourth?

>>2164665

Use a mega-katana then.

>>2164667

Work.

>>2164667

yes, very quickly

does that mean something is wrong with me?

>>2164667

I am out of any katanas

>>2164668

Oof, that's not ideal.

Though I suppose you like your job, eh?

>>2164669

Nah, not at all.

It makes sense really.

>>2164656

Are you SURE your e-boyfriend isn't me in disguise?

>>2164657

It's pretty hot

>>2164661

This is why your name is 🐱-o

>>2164671

Pays the bills.

>>2164648

Sorry, but you are just blatantly wrong here.

>Definition of got

> past tense and past participle of get

The Got vs Gotten thing more or less comes down on UK vs American, so let's just avoid that for now. Both are proper and can be ignored right now.

The big issue here, is that 'got' is a past tense verb, while 'have' is a present tense. They can, and usually are, used together.

To say 'I got crabs' means that you did in fact get crabs. It does not at all imply that you still have them. For instance, if I told you that 'I got shot' you wouldn't assume that I am still getting shot. It doesn't preclude the possibility, but it does not imply it either.

So, to say 'I got cancer' means that you have received cancer. You very well might have got that cancer resolved, as well.

Have, on the other hand, is present tense. If 'I have crabs' then you can safely assume that I currently have crabs. I think have is pretty self explanatory and you agree with this point.

So 'I have cancer' means that I, in this present moment, have cancer.

Now you can also use them together. "I have got cancer". In this sense it combines the two, and is usually read as present tense. This is because 'got' in this sense is serving an auxiliary role to 'have,' which is the man verb in the sentence.

>>2164672

Tell me something only they would know.

>>2164673

Would you still do it if you had no bills?

T. S. Eliot's works were literally just memes and references of the days. They were neither accessible nor common English of the day but Frankenstein-ed sentences from different sources and other mishmash fragments.

>>2164671

that's what i thought too

>>2164672

i-it is??

>>2164675

There's food to eat as well.

>>2164649

Do you have me too???

>>2164654

It is a bit humorous arguing over definitions and shit in, essentially, a living language. I would have never assumed 'ratchet' would mean anything other than a tool or mechanism, but there you have it.

>>2164677

We all can't be all as charismatic as M*rder.

>>2164678

What if you won the lottery?

>>2164679

Have what?

>>2164672

Basically.

>>2164680

I think that's the wrong "c" word

>>2164680

Can't depend on it. Government would tax the fuck out of me. And the chance of going bankrupt is statistically high.

>>2164680

I meant hate....I am bad at this typing and drinking.

>>2164674

And what is the definition of get? And is get a synonym of have?

It is incorrect to say "have got" it should be "have gotten."

If someone told me "I got shot" I would assume you are still recovering from being shot, not that you were still getting shot. If you were getting shot then you would say you were getting shot.

I would under no circumstances assume that someone's cancer is resolved if they said they got cancer. I would only assume it was resolved if they said they had cancer.

I would also never say I have got cancer, I would say I have gotten cancer. Again, it would only be got if you dropped the have, changing it from gotten to got.

>>2164682

I was honestly confused about the whole hubbub over someone saying "cunt" about someone.

Everyone was acting as though they said "nigger" in terms of how "bad" the word supposedly was.

>>2164675

That would ruin the ruse

>>2164677

Yeah, don't you like virgin blood? Are u gay?

>>2164679

Yeah but I personally avoid using words from black people twitter

>>2164682

Chumbawumba?

>>2164683

What if every time you spent a single dollar, you received two dollars directly into your bank?

>>2164684

I hate everything equally.

>>2164687

Get bated idiot :^)

>>2164688

That's not how the world works.

>>2164686

nobody said anything about a cunt

>>2164687

I don't want anyone's blood

they can have mine tho

not all of it tho

>>2164688

what the hell is that?

>>2164689

Yes, but this is a hypothetical.

>>2164690

An unfortunate misspelling of the band that made the song Tubthumping.

>>2164691

I cant get jiggy with this

>>2164690

>I think that's the wrong "c" word

I thought you were implying "cunt" from that since it's somehow a taboo word now like when people say "n word".

>>2164692

Yeah but you can get knocked down, and then get up again.

>using the word meme to refer to anything other than stupid internet pictures

>saying that things like religion, literature, etc. are just memes

Fucking hipsters with your garbage Postmodern horse shit irony.

>>2164691

So, not important.

>>2164693

wish said murder was charismatic and i was thinking of cancerous

>>2164694

>>2164694

what if i don't want to get up

>>2164696

Actually, modern psychology suggests that hypotheticals are relatively important towards maintaining proper mental health.

>>2164697

Well then I guess you're fucked.

>>2164688

What do u mean

I mean my ruse where I'm pretending to be someone else and e-dating u

>>2164690

Are you a virgin tho?

I'm going to drink Wish's butt hymen blood

>>2164699

how lewd

>>2164699

So, no conclusive evidence.

I know, technically speaking a meme refers to anything transmitted nongenetically, but also you can all go fuck yourselves with your "cool" intentional detachment and your fucking lack of sincerity thinking your shit don't stink. You all secretly give a fuck about how others see you, you're not actually detached, you're just hypocritical cunts that pretend not to care.

>>2164700

how disgusting

>>2164700

Yes, but now it's disproved.

>>2164701

By Tracer.

>>2164702

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>2164695

90% of The Waste Land was lifted from other sources common among "learned" groups, i.e. just bored rich people who were able to spend a lot of time reading from similar pools of recommended literature. Its entire purpose was for you just to recognize the callbacks and attempt to weave them into some sort of coherent meaning.

>>2164685

This is going to take forever to explain this to you.

1) Assuming we agree that got is the past tense of get, right? Get has a few definitions, but in this sense I assume we can agree the one we are talking about is to receive or acquire. "I get this." "You get that." Get is NOT a synonym of have.

The definition of have is possession. "I have this" "You have that."

2) Got vs Gotten is literally dependent on where you are. The UK drop gotten and simply use got. The US tends to use gotten. Both are correct. The choice of which to use is largely personal preference, similar to color vs colour.

3) Why are you assuming I am still recovering and it is fresh? It says nothing about time. If I told you "I got shot in '98," it is just as proper as saying "I got shot." You implying when "I got shot" is all on you. It could very well be old news, but just a story I never told you.

4) Alright, let's stray away from cancer. Let's instead use drunkeness, because that is something I am quite familiar with. If I said "I got drunk" would you imply that I am currently drunk? Would you imply that I am recovering from being drunk? And if so, why? If somebody asked me "Why did you piss on the bar?" And my answer was "I got drunk" would you assume the problem hadn't been resolved yet? The only difference is what we know about the specific illness. We know cancer is currently incurable, while drunkeness lasts for a few hours. The verb is still past tense in both situations.

5) Refer to above about Got vs Gotten, and drop this. Unless you want to argue that anybody saying colour or honour is wrong.

>>2164705

>>2164705

noty i don't want that

>>2164687

I avoid using 'words' from black people in general. It all makes you sound like you're a hood-rat.

>>2164688

Aww, I feel special now.

>>2164708

>>2164709

Now kiss.

>>2164710

Isn't that like, the opposite of special?

>>2164711

*kisses ur lips*

>>2164711

No.

>>2164703

It's a meme u dip

>>2164704

Butt hymen blood is the same blood that's in the rest of your body

It's just that the fact that it will come from me taking Wish's butt virginity will make it hotter

>>2164705

I just don't want to prove it by telling you something they'd know because then u'd know I'm them and it wouldn't work anymore

>>2164711

Being one of the chosen crowd to be hated equally to all others is a special gift given to all by you.

>>2164714

I don't wanna hear that

>>2164712

*dodges and puts tracer in my place*

Haa gottem.

>>2164713

Too late.

>>2164714

If you're them then why aren't you responding to my texts? :^(

>>2164715

>chosen crowd

>literally everyone

Haha yes

>>2164717

Hm.

>>2164717

See, you weeb! Now tell me I am special!

>>2164717

you were too slow

sorry

>>2164710

I think I use a few post-ironically sometimes

Does "ay gurl" count

>>2164716

That's why I'm telling you via text instead of calling u to talk about how I'm going to lap up Wish's warm butt hymen blood

>>2164717

Cause we're already talking here

>>2164722

I want to vomit

>>2164721

You make me sad.

>>2164722

'ay gurl' is about as bad as 'boo'

>>2164717

So how long after the Soto/Wish tapes are made are they released?

>>2164706

Not nearly 90%. As for trying to make you own meaning, that's what all of Modernism was. It was an intentional use of the past to upset the lessons it taught in order to reform their own mode of thinking.

>>2164707

http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/have

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/thesaurus/have

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/have

You're clearly wrong. Get appears under synonyms in all three of these.

What matters is what is standard in American English, not British English. We are Americans, we speak American English. So someone writing it colour would be incorrect by the standards and spelling of American English. It is so incorrect that American computers actually recognizes colour as being an incorrect spelling.

Why would I assume? Because human beings are naturally wired into their present lives when receiving information, so unless it is specified that the event has been over and done with, they are naturally going to assume that it is recent, even if it was in the past. Why? Because humans are psychologically hard wired to view things in the scope of a relatively small window of time automatically.

See above for why I would assume this was current or if in the past still relatively recent. Also see above for why in America it is color and honor and why saying colour and honour are incorrect by our standards.

>>2164714

Fucking Richard Dawkins. He is in no ways an expert on cultural theory, religion, etc. He's a geneticist, it is a completely different and unrelated field of study.

>>2164722

For weeks...

Now, if I were in England, and I spelled it color and not colour, in that case I would be incorrect, because I would not be using the standards they use.

Because words have different meanings, it appears under the definition meaning to bring forth children from the womb specifically, which is still a form of possessive because they are your children.

>>2164723

You weren't grossed out by blood like this until butt hymens were involved

Are u just afraid of butt holes

>>2164724

What if you're saying it to a boy tho?

>>2164726

Yeah I'm glad Richard Hawking is dead

>>2164727

Has it really been weeks

>>2164731

only when there's blood coming out

>>2164731

How many weeks does it have to be before I start calling it months?

>>2164726

>1‘he had a new car and a boat’

SYNONYMS

possess, own, be in possession of, be the owner of, be the possessor of, be the proud possessor of, have in one's possession, have to one's name, count among one's possessions, be blessed with, boast, enjoy

keep, maintain, retain, hold, use, utilize, occupy

There is no get in this one. There is get lower down, but it is a synonym to 'had' as well as not the definition we are arguing about.

>1 to keep, control, or experience as one's own

My uncle has a sizable collection of baseball cards.

Synonyms of have

command, enjoy, hold, own, possess, retain

Nowhere on the page does this list get as a synonym.

>Synonyms for have

verb be in possession

accept

acquire

admit

bear

carry

enjoy

gain

get

hold

include

keep

obtain

own

pick up

possess

receive

retain

take

annex

compass

corner

hog

land

occupy

procure

secure

chalk up

get hands on

get hold of

have in hand

latch on to

lock up

sit on

take in

teem with

This is really sloppy and poor choice of synonyms, if I do say so myself. The verb definition on have on this site is 'to posses' while the definition of get is 'to acquire'. Those aren't the same.

2) No, you might speak American English, but that doesn't mean I do. That also doesn't mean that me reverting to and fro from American to UK is improper. That is only your bias and prejudice. Grow up.

You would assume because you enjoy making an ass out of yourself. I'm staying out of it. For the sake of argument, recent and ongoing are also not the same thing, so by saying it is recent you are still agreeing with me that it is in the past. Which, guess what, means 'got' is past tense, as defined.

>>2164731

That is even worse, yo.

>>2164730

That is beget you fucking imbecile.

Wish, am I fucking crazy? Am I wrong here?

>>2164739

Touche. Take pouty goth chick with you as reward.

>>2164731

Dawkins is still very much alive, and cunts are still looking up to him as a sort of prophet. I don't know if Hawking ever wrote about cultural theory or even made statements beyond his own beliefs at the existence of god and what not.

>>2164734

4 ‘she had a letter from Mark’

SYNONYMS

receive, get, be given, be sent, obtain, acquire, procure, come by, take receipt of

3 to bring forth from the womb

Her grandmother had 5 children.

Synonyms of have

bear, deliver, drop, mother, produce

Words Related to have

labor

breed, multiply, propagate, reproduce, spawn

beget, father, generate, get, sire

calve, kid, kindle, kitten, litter, pup, whelp

>get means to acquire

>have means to possess

Getting something means you are possessing it, ergo having it.

I speak American English, I can assume you speak American English as well since you are from the US. And, AGAIN, if I were in England I would be incorrect in using the American standards just as an English person would be incorrect for using the British standards in the US.

I would assume because human being assume. It makes things easier on our mind. For the sake of argument, recent and ongoing are not the same, but without context clues saying something like I got shot would make the hearer assume that you are still recovering or dealing with it. Because, AGAIN, human beings assume naturally as part of the way we think.

>>2164736

Keep reading literally two more words, you fucking troglodyte.

>>2164737

486.png

>line starting with beget

>fourth word

>get

>>2164741

Under the header for "Words Related to HAVE"?

If that counts then I suppose that "kitten" is also a synonym to have.

I mean seriously, are you people actually this retarded?

This isn't a rhetorical question, I want you to respond telling me whether or not you are mentally slow.

>>2164742

Personally I've never even heard of someone calling, what I am assuming is cat birth, kittening. But as beget means literally to have children, I guess it's a thing.

Or rather to sire children as the father.

Who are you?

>>2164745

>>2164746

>missed the link

I think a lady squirting a bastard out of her cunt is still called birth.

>>2164746

Who am I? That's an interesting question that only I can truly know the answer too. I can also ask the same question back, who the fuck are you?

>>2164748

*to

>>2164732

Why tho

>>2164733

I feel sad for u now

>>2164735

I guess u need a pretty high IQ to appreciate my shitposting

>>2164741

Me neither, I was just shitposting

Oh actually I do remember christfags were mad for a while years back because Hawking said that a god wouldn't be necessary for the universe to come into existence

>>2164744

You'd think if the two were synonymous in a given context then it'd be listed under the "Synonyms of HAVE" section, not the related words section 🤔

>>2164751

>>2164741

>4 ‘she had a letter from Mark’

>had

Past tense, and not what we are talking about.

>3 to bring forth from the womb

Her grandmother had 5 children.

Synonyms of have

bear, deliver, drop, mother, produce

Words Related to have

labor

breed, multiply, propagate, reproduce, spawn

beget, father, generate, get, sire

calve, kid, kindle, kitten, litter, pup, whelp

>Words RELATED to have

>RELATED to

>Not synonyms

>How can you be this stupid.mpeg

>Getting something means you are possessing it, ergo having it.

Similar concepts, I don't even pretend to deny, but not same thing. You would say that "This man got me this" while you would not say "this man had me this" would you? You have to acquire something to posses it, true enough, but the possessing goes on long after the acquiring is over.

>I speak American English, I can assume you speak American English as well since you are from the US. And, AGAIN, if I were in England I would be incorrect in using the American standards just as an English person would be incorrect for using the British standards in the US.

I could just as easily be Canadian that moved down to the US. The beauty of English, is that all the dialects are equally proper, and it doesn't matter where you live. Where you live tends to determine what set of rules you follow, but it doesn't invalidate the ones you don't.

>Still recovering or dealing with

Fucking sure! But the getting shot part of it is OVER! It is IN THE FUCKING PAST! Hence it is a past tense fucking verb!

>Keep reading literally two more words, you fucking troglodyte.

Are? Because that is the word 2 words after 'beget'. The only 'get' in the synonyms on that page is the "She had a letter from Mark" which I already explained why that is a poor example.

>>2164748

I am Cato, the name that I have always posted with here. I did post as hepty many years ago in old 4chan pony threads, tho

What is the name I would recognize you as?

>>2164751

just really gross

>>2164751

I am just too stupid. Sorry, bud.

Wish, I want to just get shot in the head. Will you do this for me? Please? It is my final.........

Wish

Not before me, you selfish fucks!

>>2164753

-hugs tightly- ♥

>>2164756

🤔

How u

>>2164757

Ur arguing with a guy named Fool

Death is lame

>>2164762

Wait, that's fool?

No wonder

>>2164762

That is not Fool. Fool isn't nearly as maddening as this guy. I like Fool.

>>2164762

layin in my bed

not really sure what to do right meow

>>2164763

I just now noticed they're still arguing and I haven't been reading it so idk who I agree with on whatever they're talking about right now

>>2164764

Are you sure? I totally thought it was Fool, but I think Fool is a friend of yours from the old dogfucking days so maybe you know better

>>2164765

Drugs

>>2164766

don't have any :c

>>2164766

This guy doesn't have any of Fool's style or grace. Also Fool is usually extremely depressed and not in the mood to argue stupid semantics without bringing up "Absurdity" or other.

Also, hey I never fucked nor supported the fucking of dogs! I just posted Spehss Mureens.....

>>2164766

I already gave up on the arguing, am just curious who it is at this point

>>2164770

Forgot pic.

>>2164770

I just never paid any attention to you

So you are Fool?

>>2164772

I'm he who walks behind the rows, also known as Fool, Robert Marigold, Lord Dan X still standing, Poor Lazarus, and most recently Sleve McDichael. And that's alright, I pay plenty enough attention to me for the both of us.

>pic related

>>2164773

Narcissim, ho!

Wish-kun

>>2164768

He said it's him

I guess you didn't fuck enough dogs with him after all

>>2164769

It was obvious from his rant about how I used the word "meme"

>>2164770

I think the latter

>>2164772

You could always masturbate for hours

>>2164770

>So wait, the verb get, which is in the present tense, is only a synonym of have when have is in the past tense? That doesn't make sense at all and I'm pretty sure that's NOT actually how that works.

No, GOT is the past tense of get. Just like had is the past tense of have. 'She had letters' would translate to 'She got letters' and not 'She get letter'.

>I guess beget isn't a synonym for having children because of your fucktarded standards

The fuck are you even arguing about here?

>You literally cannot have something without getting something.

Murky waters. I have mass, but when did I get mass? And I don't mean more mass, I mean mass at all.

>Now you're making an assumption on time. You can have a sandwich and eat it right away, then you no longer have that sandwich. But that wasn't long after. Here's another fun example for you, since you clearly love them, and don't at all misunderstand anything of how context and etc. work: I got a car. You would assume that the person still has the car in their possession

The Sandwich example, let me sketch it out for you.

Phase 1: Acquire Sandwich

Phase 2: Posses Sandwich

Phase 9: Eat Sandwich

Phase 4: Cease possessing Sandwich.

See how Phase 1 and 2 aren't the same? Because Phase 1 ends after you get it? Unless you are going to tell me that getting it continues all the way until it is gone, which means you are taking a moment in time and just fucking spreading that shit over minutes.

1. You're not.

2. Doesn't change that you would be incorrect by the standards set by the society you are currently residing within.

3. I could be God made flesh and have perfect knowledge of all things past, present, and future.

1) I am.

2) Society doesn't enforce rules and standards of language, otherwise new words or new uses of words would not happen. You are putting the cart ahead of the horse here.

3) You aren't.

>Beget, father, generate, get, sire. You're either drunk, brain dead, or both.

I am certainly drunk, but unless you have a connection to 'father' 'sire' or 'generate' to 'have' than this is a moot point.

>>2164775

I don't believe it is Fool. Too many color photos, too much bull-headedness.

Fool is a better man than this guy. Smarter than this as well.

>>2164777

>>2164778

Yes, Neko?

I mislinked

>>2164778

Last reply in >>2164775 was for u

>>2164777

Maybe u haven't read his posts since the furry threads

>>2164779

nice pic

good evening

>>2164780

tried that

it doesn't help much

>>2164780

Maybe. But I just talked to Fool a day or so ago.

God I hope it isn't fool.

>>2164781

The lightsaber? It's pretty hot, huh?

>>2164776

She has letters means she got letters, no? Was she just born with letters as a precondition at the very start of time?

>the fuck are you even arguing about here

That because it appears in that section specifically doesn't mean it isn't still a synonym.

>when did I get mass

Probably at conception is my guess.

?see how one and two are differet

If you acquire something you possess that something.

1. You can't lie to me, Mandy. I already know where you're from.

2. Society DOES in fact enforce rules of language. Hence why if you talk like a babbling moron nobody will be able to understand you or want to talk to you. And new words only come about when a word is created and enters the public lexicon, which is very difficult to do.

3. Not according to Kirilov.

>unless you have a connection to...

Father children means to have children.

>>2164777

Literally I am he. There aren't many pictures of Michael Keaton in black and white.

>>2164784

It's me, Mandy.

>>2164782

hello

>>2164784

that

and the fact she is using it with her feets

Tell them, Eisen. Tell the people I am Fool. Eisen knows. Or should.

hmmm i dunno about this one, guys

You rat bastard.

i've never been so insulted by a complete stranger

who is this """Lazarus""" guy

You sold me out, you son of a bitch!

>>2164786

how are you eisen?

bah! i'm not talking to you anymore

>>2164793

quite good. starting to feel bad about how fast summer is going though

what are you up to

>>2164785

I'm done. I can't even at this point. I just got done arguing with a friend about whether or not a fucking card game was majority strategy or majority luck based, and that was stupid. This is worse.

Look, I get that you can't have anything without getting it first. But the getting stops. You get it. You don't keep getting it. You get it. Then you have it. Then perhaps you lose it. But getting and having are not the same thing.

Fool, you make me sad. New words enter the public lexicon literally all the damn time. 'On Fleak' 'Ratchetty hoes' 'yolo'. Kids and idiots make up all sorts of words, and as long as they convey meaning that others understand, it is a legit word no matter how stupid me or you think it is.

>>2164787

Why did I not think of that to begin with?

>>2164795

i dunno

it's hot tho

>>2164795

The getting stops, and then you got it. Then maybe you don't have it anymore at some later point, but the got never stops.

>On fleak

>ratchetty hoes

>yolo

Are all slang terms, slang is a completely different form of communication that is incredibly informal and not considered part of the actual language. Kind of like Pidgin, it is a form of communication, but not really a language as a language is defined.

>you make me sad

Says everyone to me ever. Personally I don't care all that much.

>>2164794

what do you mean?

shouldn't you be done with high school a while ago now?

And also, due to the nature of how the human mind operates, assumptions about time frames come into play, so saying I got something to someone will make them automatically assume that it is a recent thing unless specified otherwise. Because humans make assumptions. It's just what we do.

>>2164798

yeah i'm going into my senior year of college.

And Eisen, your uppance will come.

>>2164801

Yes, over a very long period of time. But until that happens, it's not considered part of the language.

>>2164800

wow that's depressing news to me

I still haven't finished my 2-year degree

fuckin depression lol

proud of you eisen, what's your major?

>>2164804

don't be depressed by it

take solace in the fact that i will inevitably fumble on the 1-yard line and put off looking for an internship until its too late and become a total burn-out like everyone else

i'm studying video production and live broadcasting and it rules

Hence why Meme was first defined back in 1976, but didn't enter the public lexicon until a decade ago maybe? And that's considered rather quick by language evolution standards. Hell, there are languages that still don't have words for things like computer. And why there was never a word for Blue in Ancient Greek even though they were aware of a word for blue through Ancient Egypt.

The way languages evolve is rather an interesting subject on its own, but I only have a rudimentary knowledge of how it works. I'm a painter, not a linguist.

>>2164805

nice job man

no matter what you do, if it's something you like you'll succeed and be happy

>>2164809

just the whole part where i have to be the one to put the gears in motion, it's scary.

that's why i don't want summer to end, because it's probably the last responsibility-free summer i'll ever have

aaaaaaaa

>>2164808

Those are in there because they're in common use by a majority of people. And I don't think Frita is a stupid word, it's just, like, a kind of food. And all language is made up, it is just a matter of common use.

No, the Greeks had literally no concept of blue. It's why Homer uses the very odd phrase

"Wine dark sea."

4 words: alcohol induced family dynamic

yea, those 4...

yall nigga kids cant even, no you just cant. dont try... i am your shepherd, your own personal jesus. reach out and touch faith

I'm not a part of any family around this God forsaken place.

>>2164814

I HOPE SO

tell me about what you're learning

>>2164815

just boring required stuff for now

idk what i'm doing tbh

>>2164818

i still have one or two required humanities garbage classes left

you don't have anything in mind?

>>2164820

I want to do something that helps people

or interests me

or both

>>2164821

i would hope that it's both

Ooh an eisen.

Happy Friday bitches~

A wild Kissy appears

Been awhile, how you doin'?

>>2164827

just don't be a donger

quite good

listening to a podcast with a friend

seeing what i missed here

doesn't seem like anything

>>2164827

good tunes

>>2164834

are you a big fan of them?

i've only heard a couple albums and i'm looking for guidance.

Absolutely nothing.

Nothing ever happens.

it's so great, i come back every three or four months and everything is exactly the same.

how have you been though

i know! you're in college now!

very proud of you

>>2164840

so far i've heard Music for the Masses, Violator and Songs of Faith and Devotion.

i've been listening to Violator since i was 12

>>2164845

oh yeah People Are People, i've heard of that

that was easy

Decent overall. School just started up again last week.

I've been house sitting a lot recently which is nice because it provides a bit of auxiliary income.

Darwin divorced me because it turns out I'm not his type but it is in the past now.

that's what you get for finishing puberty.

summer school sounds lame though. you're in college right?

>>2164849

th-thanks

what am i good at

Yeah. It's not that bad, though I have been neglecting it so this week I"ll have to catch up. Not that i'm behind, just not ahead.

that's fair.

i'm actually super ahead but i have to remain full time for some insurance or tax purpose (i forgot). so i have to take way more credits than i actually need to.

Nezi I appreciate you

>>2164854

i will always gladly accept music suggestions.

>>2164856

what else do you listen to

Nezi will you be my new wife now that I'm single again?

>>2164858

i'm a noob to electronic music but i do like it. been dipping my toes into autechre and i've heard a great deal of aphex twin.

i have a friend who's really into deep house so i've been exposed to a lot of that too

And then it's dead again

>>2164861

tycho is good.

i'm a huge fan of brian eno's ambient series, which is probably basic as fuck

>>2164865

his first four art rock/pop albums are top tier.

Another Green World is a desert island disc for me

>>2164868

it's a sweet trip every time

ejaculate

>>2164875

>>2164876

work now bye!

Diamonds are lame