No.33168
>it gets good after 25 episodes
>SAO was good during the first season
>you should watch it dubbed
>I watched it on crunchyroll
>Steins;Gate is one of my favourite anime
>Evangelion is overrated
No.33169
>Trigger is my favourite studio
>Little Witch Academia is bad
>Attack on Titan was good for 9 episodes
>"insert mecha show" is like Pacific Rim
>"insert character with brown/black hair and brown eyes" is best girl
No.33171
>evangelion isn't overated
No.33172
>>33169
>"insert character with brown/black hair and brown eyes" is best girl
What about Hanekawa from the Monogatari series?
No.33175
No.33178
No.33179
>>33175
>being a femdomfag
I was hoping you'd at least mention the loli.
No.33180
No.33181
>>33168
>Things people with shit taste say
No.33183
>>33180
>and manga
>and gaming!
>oooh [inaudible]
No.33187
>>33168
I had to double take because everything you wrote sounded like something I wrote, so I thought this was my thread for a second.
>Who's Demolition D?
>Only person I know like that is Digibrony!
>Dragonball Z Super/Kai is so hype bro
>I don't like old anime it looks weird
>I go to my local Animecon
>I talk about anime in real life
>I own a "My Little Sister Can't Be This Cute" T-shirt
>"Hey Reddit, how do you get onto Exhentai? I downloaded the addon for my Google chrome and it's still not getting me past sad panda :("
No.33189
>>33187
>tfw every anime youtuber is now attempting to steal Demo's style with the most obvious one being Gigguk
Digibro even made a blatant rip-off video called "Should you watch Kaiba?" which backfired because he didn't realise that Demo was popular for being funny and not because of a certain editing style. I remember making a thread about anime youtubers here once when the board was still dead, maybe I should make another one since it seems like an interesting topic to discuss.
No.33235
>>33189
I thought demo lost all motivation to make that shit because of the cancer anime youtubers. I do miss his content and humor, as nobody else has gotten close in the realm of anime shitposts.
I only see that fag stream every now and again.
I'd love to meet him for a nice lunch and beer as I believe he lives in MN.
No.33237
Evangelion is absolutely overrated, just like Lain, LotGH, Akira, and GitS. The problem is that people who watch anime never watch film, so they're enchanted by what seems to them as "artful" but is actually dilettante wankery. Watch Love of Mountain and River, or My Neighbors the Yamadas.
>>33235
Demo was alright, but the only really good "anime youtuber" (puke) was Grumpy Jii-san.
No.33238
>>33168
>The bugs in Terra Formars are racist depictions of black people
>Bitching about Usagi and Mamoru's age gap, and screaming pedophilia
>"Insert character" is so gay for "his/her best friend or rival"
>Artist keeps fucking depicting a character as dark skinned or butt ugly, and saying "My version is better"
>Futanari is transphobic
>Tomgirl is tranny porn
>The term trap is offensive
No.33241
>>33237
Wrong. Except Akira, that movie was just underwhelming and stupid.
No.33243
>>33241
Akira's greatest merits were it's animation and being an animation aimed at adults (heh!) that managed to break into mainstream in the west. Story is pretty standard anime-wise. But for those two positives, I think it deserves it's status. In fact, I'll say the very same about GitS
No.33247
>>33243
Are you trying to have a proper discussion or simply meet the criteria of the OP?
GitS explored philosophical themes about what it means to be human. If the Major is just a consciousness transported into a robot body, then how is that different from the Puppet Master, who was also a consciousness transported into a robot body? If you can manipulate memories (eg, the garbage truck driver), then how does she even know that she's human? Maybe she just thinks she's human but she's actually an android.
Akira has top notch animation but the story just collapses in the second half, and was never particularly deep to begin with. They are not at all the same.
No.33252
>>33247
>Anime that explores philisophical themes
It's shit, because most otaku simply do not understand philosophy. In GitS the animation is flat, and a large chunk of the time the characters are rotoscoped, poorly. This direction makes no sense in anime – a medium that can be exaggerated and stretched and symbolic and meaningless. GitS takes these figures and removes any character they might have, and makes them less than human. GitS calls this realism. If you want a good example of what animation should be like, see Shoujo Tsubaki or anime made by Osamu Tezuka. GitS is the epitome of "deep" "mature" (wow, her robo-tits are out!! She haz gun!!!) anime for children – it seriously is incredibly trite (transhumanism, hollywood-style cyberpunk, what is it means to be humans… yeah, deep). How anyone can care about the characters or the "symbolism" is beyond me.
No.33256
>>33254
Believe it or not, I have had The Sex, and it didn't feel better than my onahole. Still, please do tell me how GitS makes you feel *any* investment in the characters. We're given no reason to care at all; aside from some vague nihilistic jargon/tripe.
No.33258
>>33256
>tell me how GitS makes you feel *any* investment in the characters
You have missed the point anon. I never said anything about character-building. This is a 90 minute film. If you want to see character development watch Stand Alone Complex.
No.33260
>I don't read manga, I'll wait for the anime
>It's good, but what is up with that ending? No I still wont read the manga
>I love everything made by this creator. Except the dozens of manga they made
>Why does only generic, marketable tripe get an anime? No, I will never read a manga
>Oh cool, it got an anime. I'll wait for the dub
No.33265
>>33247
I'm the guy you replied to
I didn't say GitS had a bad story. It's good, but standard for any other sci-fy transhumanist plot. You just described any anime that involves augmented characters and AI questioning what it means to be human. Good, yeah, but that's it. What I meant was that GitS was famous because such a theme, in an anime, hasn't been done in such a high production quality and with such reach before.
Akira's story is pretty bland, but it made fame for the same reasons that GitS did.
>>33252
>This direction makes no sense in anime
>anime direction can only be made in a certain way
Just because it CAN be exaggerated and stretched and symbolic and meaningless, doesn't mean it HAS to.
>makes them less than human
that was probably intentional
>name dropping Osamu Tezuka
oh yeah anon, all anime should look the same! absolutely!
>transhumanism, hollywood-style cyberpunk
maybe it's not your cup of tea
>How anyone can care about the characters or the "symbolism" is beyond me.
it really is
No.33266
>>33265
Ah that makes sense. You are basically correct IMO.
No.33268
>>33265
>name dropping Osamu Tezuka
I did it to show that anime can be very simple, and yet feel _alive_ in a very abstract sense – not because I'm pretentious and hate everything. The animation of GitS is awkward and effete, the story is milk-and-water, and it just feels like a hollow, ersatz anime, trying for "realism" and "maturity" and failing – hard. (Of course, this is just my opinion.)
No.33271
>>33168
>Steins;Gate is one of my favourite anime
rest of your list is on-point, but steins;gate was very good i thought. easily made it onto my top 10 favorites.
>>33169
attack on titan was good for all of its' episodes (and chapters), altho the last few have been a bit wonky. after over a hundred chapters isayama finally added a nigger as a background character, so the manga still has a chance to shit the bed, since that's never a good sign.
knowing my luck it probably will, since god forbid a story i like gets concluded in a nonshitty way.
No.33288
>>33189
>tfw demo will never make a review of:
>LOTGH
>Lain
>Revolutionary Girl Utena
>EoE
>Berserk
>Shin Sekai Yori
No.33290
>>33235
Demo lives in Florida
No.33291
>>33252
>Seeking philosophical enlightenment from consumer entertainment
This is how you end up in the mindset of an ANN writer. Anyone claiming anime is "deep" is a retard, but the artfag mentality is cancerous as fuck and shit like that is what turned western vidya and "indies" into pure garbage.
Tastefag arguments themselves are retarded as well. In the end it's a scattershot argument aimed at casuals that should be ignored to begin with, mixed with "stop liking what I don't like." Anime isn't an intellectual pursuit. It isn't always entirely brainless but it prioritizes entertainment value and profitability.
No.33293
>>33291
It depends. Japanese animation can certainly be surreal/experimental, comparible to the animation of someone like, say, Aleksander Petrov or Yuri Norshtein (but it generally does fall flat when it comes to saying anything poignant beyond "life can be hard, for some"). There's also anime like Cat Soup/Kanashimi no Belladonna, and you could adjudicate these as "art" – but I would never ever do so, because I'm not that brand of idiot. Just watch what brings you pleasure – like you said, the truth is that it's consumer entertainment; designed to be like a bag of chips.
No.33294
>>33288
I would have loved to see a video of his on Joshiraku as well.
>>33237
I only agree with you on GitS, I never understood why it was considered "deep" when it didn't really say much more interesting about the concepts of transhumanism and the soul than any other sci-fi work that came before it. I never actually managed to watch it in its entirety, I have seen the first half serveral times now and the last time I attempted to watch it I just skipped straight to the end to see what I was "missing".
No.33295
>>33271
>steins;gate was very good
It's a shitty powerfantasy harem disguised as a sci-fi story. I'll admit there were some moments of it I enjoyed but the first half is absolute cancer, there's lots of plot-holes that are never explained (why do some characters have memories of a different timeline and some others don't) and most importantly: the characters are probably the most annoying pieces of shit I have ever experienced in anime.
No.33306
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>>33235
>I thought demo lost all motivation to make that shit because of the cancer anime youtubers
No, it was mostly personal issues (video related, if you haven't seen it yet) and he probably just didn't think it was fun anymore. He obviously never cared about the fame or money, he's a product of the old internet, he just made videos because he liked doing it. Now you have people in his comments begging for him to set up a patreon or something so they can throw money at him but he's just not the kind of guy who wants to do that. He seems like a creative guy (he actually wanted to be a professional writer) and involving money would probably just make the youtube thing seem more like a job.
No.33311
>>33294
But GitS namedrops philosophers, so it must be deep.
No.33324
>>33311
>>33294
>it's not deep unless it's a literal philosophy textbook
The pretentiousness of your faux-elitism reeks of plebbit.
No.33331
>>33324
>something something words
Nigger, I clearly sad it was not deep because it didn't do or say anything that every other sci-fi work had already done before. It was just "woah dude what if people were like in robot bodies would they still be people", yeah that's really fucking original and creative and deserving of being called one of the best anime ever made.
It also came off as pretentious to me because it focused more on setting and atmosphere but didn't attempt to tell a story or make you feel invested in the characters in any way which I feel any good movie should strive towards to, regardless of if it's trying to be "deep" or not.
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No.33335
>>33331
I like the movie for the cinematics and camera work done, much like the Patlabor films.
The manga is a bit more lighthearted and doesnt take itself too seriously.
If you want to bitch about philosophy in GitS, you could have mentioned SAC. Though, SAC did have some nuggets of cosmic truth in there, and we have/are seeing the effects of a stand alone complex in 3D
No.33336
>>33331
>>33335
SAC is unironically the best GitS media. And this is coming from someone who loves the manga and both original films. Only the season 1 finale goes overboard with the philosophy, the rest of it strikes a perfect balance between story/character/atmosphere/philosophy.
No.33337
>>33335
>I like the movie for the cinematics and camera work done, much like the Patlabor films.
I do think the movie looks great, don't get me wrong, it just isn't deep and the story/characters aren't interesting to someone who is not familiar with the original source material.
It's for that reason that I prefer the Patlabor movies because they have the same kind of amazing setting and animation (I think the first one looked even better than Ghost in the Shell, haven't seen the second one yet) yet Patlabor also has an interesting story and the characters interactions are fun. Perhaps I'm a bit biased in that regard because I had already become attached to the characters after seeing every other entry in the franchise before seeing the movie(s) but I still didn't care about GitS after seeing SAC so I don't know.
No.33348
>>33168
>it gets good after 25 episodes
I'm yet to encounter someone who says that.
>Evangelion is overrated
It truly is OP, i remember watching that when i was like ten and after reaching the final episode breaking a nearby lamp over the realization that the show was nothing but a pseudo-intellectual waste of time for holler than thou losers with unsolved family problems.
No.33355
>>33237
>>33247
>>33252
>>33265
>>33268
>>33293
>>33294
>>33311
>>33331
>all these fags bitching about GitS not bieng "deep" enough
>the blissfully naive anon who doesn't realize most of the writing is filler intended to assist the atmosphere and pacing
GitS is a fantastic pleb filter for this reason. You're too used to being spoonfed by (((Hollywood))) and its emphasis on writing, so the moment you encounter a film which emphasizes cinematography and careful pacing over its writing you're completely lost.
Taking GitS' writing at face value is either the sign of a normalfag (which is fair, since most haven't been exposed to anything better) or a pretentious poser like >>33252 / >>33268 and
>>33293 probably the same anon.
No.33356
>>33324
How do you read a sentence like "But GitS namedrops philosophers, so it must be deep" and fail to notice that it's sarcasm?
No.33358
>people shitting on GitS
How appropriate for this thread.
No.33360
>>33355
>You're too used to being spoonfed by (((Hollywood))) and its emphasis on writing, so the moment you encounter a film which emphasizes cinematography and careful pacing over its writing you're completely lost.
Not at all. I simply stated that it was not as deep as people claim it is because it does not attempt to do anything that most other famous sci-fi works have already done. That's fucking it. Ironically you're trying to get more meaning out of my posts than there really was.
No.33361
>>33355
>didn't shit on GitS story (couldn't care much about it tbh)
>made the list
looks like we're all snob pseudo-intelectuals here
do you guys miss moefags yet?
No.33363
>>33360
>>33361
The response wall was a bit big at first and I missed a couple posts while trimming it down. Sorry about that.
No.33370
>Bait thread actually draws out some discussion
good job OP
No.33371
>>33363
>xdd I'm just going to pretend to ignore all your arguments because I can't stand people insulting my favourite anime
Hey /a/.
No.33374
>>33371
>accidentally include the wrong anons in your response
>stop ignoring their arguments!
I assume one of the responding anons was >>33265 and I agree with him.
No.33378
>>33355
I love when people call you "pretentious" or "elitist" – it's a sign that they have nothing to say; so they're resorting to buzzwords and essentially complementing you. There is nothing special about GitS, and if you could stop leaking spittle for a second and _read my posts_ you'd realize that I'm anti-Hollywood. GitS is hardly a pleb filter, it's an anime that people who haven't seen more than 100 like.
>You're too used to being spoonfed by (((Hollywood))) and its emphasis on writing, so the moment you encounter a film which emphasizes cinematography and careful pacing over its writing you're completely lost.
I hate every Hollywood film aside from a few older ones. The "cinematography" is total garbage, I already pointed out that the animation is flat and awkward, and there is zero sense of atmosphere – the city literally looks like something you could find in Ohio. Sounds to me like you're one of the people I was talking about; the kind that only watch anime and never watch film or read philosophy. Watch Like Someone in Love or Taste of Cherry if you want to see good cinematography (RIP Abbas Kiarostami).
No.33380
>>33374
I'm sorry, I was confused about what you meant with your post. I thought you passively-aggresively said that the posts that were made after your post should be included in that list of stuff you replied to.
That doesn't change you completely missed my point from >>33360 though. I also said in a different post that I apreciated the visuals of GitS and only had an issue with the plot, characters and its failed attempt to be deep which also makes your argument that I supposedly cannot appreciate something that "emphasizes cinematography and careful pacing" look stupid. I also fucking hate Hollywood and the amount of American movies I have seen in their entirety in the last ~5 years can probably be counted on two hands so it is not at all the case that I was spoonfed by it.
No.33381
>>33380
>which also makes your argument that I supposedly cannot appreciate something that "emphasizes cinematography and careful pacing" look stupid
Alright, small correction: only the cinematography part in this specific context. Still, I think the slow pacing is part of the whole "trying to be deep" problem. I have seen lots of movies that have slow pacing yet work well because they were written with the idea that everything that happens, happens with a reason. In GitS it just feels like the movie is going nowhere, as if the director just improvised the entire thing.
No.33383
>>33271
>rest of your list is on-point, but steins;gate was very good i thought. easily made it onto my top 10 favorites.
Exactly, OP didn't make a mistake. Just means you have shit taste
No.33384
>>33380
>>33381
The Hollywood comment was aimed more at the fag behind >>33380 than you. GitS' pacing and structure are very deliberate, the film's main problem in my opinion is that the writing actively distracts many casual viewers and wannabe filmfags from the real meat.
I'm not particularly good at writing and if I tried explaining it I'd basically end up restating pic related, so here you go.
No.33385
>>33384
Alright, now you've got me confused. Was it meant for >>33380 or not?
>pic related
I'll admit that the first few sections about 2501's and Mokoto's nature being similar piqued my interest and I'm willing to give it another chance with that information in mind. After a while the tripfag does seem to try a bit too hard to find supposed hidden messages like the part with Batou.
>praises English dub actors
Never mind, opinion disregarded. :^) Oh and I still think SAC is garbage, even if I ever end up liking the movie.
No.33387
>>33385
>using sage as a downvote
sage
No.33389
>>33378
>read post about poser filmfags outing themselves by focusing too much on screenwriting
>responds with a fruitier version of "I bet you don't even read philosophy and watch arthouse cinema you faggot"
>mentions liking some older Hollywood films (which relied heavily on screenwriting over visuals and structure) and Abbas Kiarostami (a director/screenwriter whose films are mainly carried by his writing) to back himself up
Way to miss the point, faggot. At least you didn't mention Certified Copy.
>>33385
I meant >>33378 was the fag, not you. Dunno how I messed that up.
I don't agree with everything the tripfag said, but he did get a couple important things right.
No.33391
>>33378
>>33389
Also, if my take on Kiarostami is off, it's from me only seeing Certified Copy and around half of Like Someone in Love so far (I was interrupted partway through and forgot to resume later). His other stuff is somewhere on the backlog but isn't a high priority.
No.33392
>>33384
The faggot from your screencap is praising (or, rather, he saw a Reddit Top 100 Films Of All Time That You Must Watch list; and picked #1) Citizen Kane, so I already know his opinion is worthless. Go watch Fight Club or The Matrix you philistine cretin.
>>33389
Kiarostami films focus on writing? Did we watch the same films? Taste of Cherry has some good one-liners; but it is the glacial (yet engaging pacing) and atmosphere that carries it. It's an example of slow pacing done right. Edward Yang films are the kind that focus on writing, not Kiarostomi. I brought up philosophy and film because _anyone_ that has seen a few (yes, arthouse) films or read a philosophy book would _know_ that GitS is a failure on all fronts.
No.33393
>>33392
>screencap mentions an entry level movie
>everything it says must be invalid, dropped
>time to call anon a Fight Club pleb in the faggiest way possible
>did I mention I watch arthouse movies and read philosophy?
As an offside, are you the Tolstoyfag who shills What is Art everywhere? You write a lot like him and share most of his quirks.
No.33394
>>33384
>GitS' pacing and structure are very deliberate, the film's main problem in my opinion is that the writing actively distracts many casual viewers and wannabe filmfags from the real meat.
Yes, it's so deliberate and elegant and whimsical that it seperates the real meat [sic] from the "casual" (typical holier-than-thou term used by 80 IQ gaymurs) viewers and "filmfags" (the people who care about what they watch, after all, our time on this earth is far too short to spend watching dumpster fires like GitS) – do you even see what you're writing here? Maybe you're the poser…?
>I'm not particularly good at writing and if I tried explaining it I'd basically end up restating pic related, so here you go.
Of course, you're a mouth breather leaking spittle onto your keyboard, why would you justify what you're saying, instead of hiding behind a silly little image doing the work for you?
No.33395
>>33393
I did actually read it; and it's word salad written by a teenager – nothing is cogent (blah blah blah parallels, blah blah blah you just don't _get_ it pleb blah blah blah MASTERPIECE!). No, I don't even know who the "Tolstoyfag" is. You're missing the point once again; good job! The reason I'm bringing up those films/anime is in an effort to show what actual "artsy" films are like, and how people only think GitS is "artsy" or "existential" because they haven't seen these films or even read a book. I don't even know why I'm wasting my time giving you a reply, because it's a greentext + smug anime gurl XD post, like I'm on neo-4chan (go back by the way, please).
No.33396
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No.33397
>>33394
>do you even see what you're writing here?
Do you? Filmfag isn't a negative label here (neither is casual) but wannabe filmfag is, and "real meat" wasn't a typo. Go back and reread the sentence you quoted with these in mind.
>instead of hiding behind a silly little image doing the work for you?
Because if the post I'm responding to is any indication, your reading comprehension is exceptionally poor and needs all the help it can get.
>>33395
Yeah, on second thought Tolstoyfag is much denser and would never stoop to making a statement like "Just watch what brings you pleasure."
>The reason I'm bringing up those films/anime is in an effort to show what actual "artsy" films are like, and how people only think GitS is "artsy" or "existential" because they haven't seen these films or even read a book.
Forgive me for having little taste in your faith I still don't, you did mistake Hiroyuki Okiura and Mitsuo Iso's animation + early CGI for rotoscoping and the constant "unlike you, I watch arthouse and read philosophy" is usually the dead giveaway of a poser or an idiot.
No.33398
>>33396
Pssh… I'm ABOVE IT ALL… You WISH you could see what I see…
No.33399
>>33397
>somehow wrote "little taste in your faith" instead of "little faith in your taste"
No.33400
>>33397
"Real meat" – yeah, what a way to self-aggrandize yourself.
>bringing up reading comprehension
You must be from neo-4chan/Reddit. Try reading what he said, aloud, and tell me it isn't awkward. Do the same with the image he posted – nothing is clear; it's all smoke and mirrors.
>Forgive me for having little taste in your faith I still don't
What does this mean? Do you mean "Forgive me for having little faith in your taste" – in that case, you don't need faith, but nobody in this thread has explained how the films/anime I brought up are inferior to GitS. I'm not even bringing up highly "esoteric" media to show how "enlightened" I am, I mainly talked about classics.
>you did mistake Hiroyuki Okiura and Mitsuo Iso's animation + early CGI for rotoscoping
No; I made no mistakes, I simply tried to describe how awkward the animation is.
>and the constant "unlike you, I watch arthouse and read philosophy" is usually the dead giveaway of a poser or an idiot.
Yeah, and someone calling GitS an "existential masterpiece" or "artsy" without ever having seen arthouse films (that is to say, they have no frame of reference) or even other 80s/90s cyberpunk anime is a polymath savant that I should kowtow before, right?
No.33402
>>33400
>thinking "meat" refers to a kind of person rather than a work's substance
>posts are a mixture of proclaiming your taste to the world and misunderstanding others' posts
pic related, and you wonder why I suggested your reading comprehension sucks. Crying about cuckchan and reddit won't magically help you fit in.
>Try reading what he said, aloud, and tell me it isn't awkward
Which is why I posted a slightly less awkwardly written image in that post. For someone who goes on about "muh arthouse" and "muh philosophy", you suck at recognizing writing styles and reading in general.
>nobody in this thread has explained how the films/anime I brought up are inferior to GitS
Why would they need to? Everything else you mentioned had very different aims from GitS, so such an apples to oranges comparison would have little value even if Plebadonna of Sadness was an easy target.
>I made no mistakes
>stated "a large chunk of the time the characters are rotoscoped, poorly" in >>33252
Nigger, rotoscoping is animation made by tracing live frames, anything else isn't rotoscoping no matter how it looks. Either you lied or don't know what rotoscoping is, and both are fucking stupid mistakes to make on a chinese cartoon board.
>Yeah, and someone calling GitS an "existential masterpiece" or "artsy" without ever having seen arthouse films (that is to say, they have no frame of reference) or even other 80s/90s cyberpunk anime is a polymath savant that I should kowtow before, right?
Only one anon here said GitS was anything remotely close to that, the rest was mostly anons saying it's decent but flawed. You set an incredibly high standard for the film, screeched when it didn't reach them while completely missing what it did well, then screeched at everyone who disagreed with you becaused you assumed they didn't watch arthouse/read books/read philosophy. Nice assumptions, faggot.
No.33403
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>>33402
>The fag mistook GiTS for rotoscoping
Has he never seen any soviet animation or the fucking LoTR animated movies?
No.33405
>>33403
Why does Aragorn look like an Indian?
No.33406
>>3402
>thinking "meat" refers to a kind of person rather than a work's substance
Okay, I was wrong about that. But there's no substance to speak of in GitS; robogirl is constanly grimacing with her tits out (she also has a gun and knows how to haxx). A doujin curated by a knuckle dragger like yourself could be less trite.
>For someone who goes on about "muh arthouse" and "muh philosophy", you suck at recognizing writing styles and reading in general.
You aren't exactly a prose master yourself.
>Nigger, rotoscoping is animation made by tracing live frames […]
The point is that it *looks* like it was rotoscoped, terribly – I know that animation from that time doesn't use rotoscoping. Calling GitS a dung heap doesn't make it a literal dung heap. You're going to tell me I'm changing what I said now; but it doesn't change that the animation is flat and lifeless.
>Why would they need to? Everything else you mentioned had very different aims from GitS
Because they also went for an "arthouse" "more than an animation" style, but executed it well.
>[…] Nice assumptions, faggot
I'm not the one that set it to an incredibly high standard – I explained why it was overrated, and then other people told me I didn't _get_ it (others did say it's decent but flawed, that's true). Look, you may think I'm a pretentious autist looking to piss on everything; but I just get really irritated seeing these bait "taste" threads where everyone masturbates over the same fifteen anime over and over. You were telling me that
>Tolstoyfag would never stoop to making a statement like "Just watch what brings you pleasure."
But I don't see what's wrong with that statement. I personally think GitS is a dung heap, you can like it and I'm going to tell you why I think it's a dumpster fire, but it's still my opinion in the end. Your posts are incredibly enervating to read, because it's full of verbiage and imageboardspeak.
No.33407
>>33402
>>33406
Excuse me messing up quoting you, I made that post using Lynx.
No.33408
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>>33405
Probably because it was rotoscoped off of an Indian because, y'know, rotoscoping tends to take on an eery 3DPD look.
>>33406
>Complaining about imageboarders talking like imageboarders on an imageboard
>Whilst using sage as a downvote
GiTS looks fucking nothing like a rotoscope you tard. Watch this:
No.33409
>>33406
Dude you are so fucking autistic, Jesus ChristLucifer ;^)
Stop fucking posting, and crawl back to whatever shithole you came from.
The joke in the spoiler may be a little too high IQ for you.
No.33412
>>33383
on the contrary, you're the one with shit taste for thinking steins;gate is bad enough to be an indicator of shit taste.
>>>/suicide/
No.33415
>>33412
It's a terrible harem show that gets fans by trying use surface level fantasy science that your average redditor could think up. Not to mention the abysmal cast, all of which have no personality. What else do you think is a good show? One piece? Please go back to anywhere but here, thank you.
No.33416
>>33412
>steins gate is good
wow sure is summer in here
No.33418
>People avoid Kodomo no Jikan as soon as they read the synopsis and then miss out on a great anime and an even better manga.
Don't know why this is so bizarre to people.
No.33427
>>33387
I didn't use it as a downvote, I thought it wasn't necessary to bump the thread with a low-effort post like that. You're the one who's using it as one though, fucking retard.
No.33428
>>33348
>I'm yet to encounter someone who says that.
It's often said that Gintama gets "good" after 2X episodes and I've seen it used for a few other long-running shows as well. The reason why it's shit taste is that a show can not possibly become good enough that it's worth it to waste hours on something unenjoyable.
No.33445
>>33427
>anon uses sage for an off-topic post
>accuse him of using it as a downvote
Clever.
No.33450
>>33418
finally got around to knj because of this post, thanks anon
No.33470
>>33428
>Gintama gets good after 24 episodes
>Steins;Gate gets good after 12 episodes
>Legend of the Galactic Heroes gets good after 12 episodes
>Clannad gets good after 24 episodes
>Durarara gets good after 12 episodes
>Toradora gets good after 12 episodes
No.33476
>>33470
Clannad is good from start to finish.
No.33477
No.33489
>>33477
Things people with shit taste say.
I think it's good, I have yet to see any romance-focused show that surpasses it. There's lots of people that say only After Story is good but I disagree with even that, the slice of life episodes of the first season are god-tier and make AS feel that much more depressing because it makes you feel the same kind of nostalgia for those moments in highschool as the main character would have felt as a depressed adult.
I also think it's great because the story is told from the male perspective, most romance anime (talking about actual romance shows here, not wacky romcom harem shit like Kyoto Animation's more recent stuff) are very feminine and feel like they were written to please a female audience, even if they aren't Shoujo shows.
No.33500
>Things people with shit taste say
For me it would have to be people who don't have much to say when it comes to a show or manga. They can't explain why they like/hate it, what makes it good/bad, nothing about the characters or motives, no mention on themes or symbolism, not even any mention on the world building if it has any. I think we're bound to sometimes like something that someone else will consider shit no matter what but understanding why it's good/bad gives us all a better understanding of what we're consuming and gets us closer to knowing what we truly want. Even the people arguing in this thread about tastes understand in some ways why a show is good or bad while looking at the show from different perspectives.
I don't see any fun in having a conversation with someone that just says "It's a cartoon, don't take it too seriously." (Even if that is true. It's mainly used to dodge or ignore criticism of something they like.) or "I like it and that's all that matters.". The opposite can apply too. Someone hates a show and when they actually come out and say why it's a very petty complaint where they focused only on that aspect and ignored everything else.
I'll also say people who only stick to mainstream anime and only watch that and current season anime for social reasons. They're never bound to find anything bizarre or not trying to appeal to the masses. I do consume garbage anime every once in a while but I also try watching older stuff or things I never hear discussed because some of them sound interesting. But mainly I stick to manga.
>>33450
You're welcome. The anime says "Fuck you read the manga" and doesn't touch up on some things like the manga does but it hits some certain scenes really well to give it some extra impact. The manga is obviously better but I don't think you'll need to rule out the anime.
No.33502
>>33489
The show is insulting in its over-the-top melodrama. It is comfy for a while before the constant unearned emotional climaxes happen and then it goes to shit.
No.33511
>>33502
Care to give an example?
No.33513
>>33502
I can see how some moments may be a bit too much but I cried the first time I saw the episode where Tomoya forgave his father. Also, the dango song still gets me sad every time I hear it, I think a large reason for why it's considered such a tearjerker is because of the god-tier ost and how it is used perfectly for the emotional scenes.
No.33537
>>33513
>>33511
The second girl with the bullshit teddy bear story and the parents who could travel to an alternate dimension. She gets two episodes before she starts screaming and crying about something or other that is of course totally non-believable.
Also the OST is trash, if I hear Town, Flow of Time, People again I will no joke fucking neck myself. Every fucking episode, and those shitty cheap MIDI sounds too.
No.33539
>>33477
>>33537
>The second girl with the bullshit teddy bear story and the parents who could travel to an alternate dimension
Now i KNOW you are just shitposting.
No.33541
>>33470
steins;gate, clannad, and toradora were all three good from episode 1 up until the end. eat shit.
No.33545
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>>33537
> if I hear Town, Flow of Time, People again I will no joke fucking neck myself.
Feel free anon, the collective taste of anime viewers will increase after you're gone.
No.33550
>>33539
>>33545
I am genuinely serious, Clannad is a trash anime for emotionally-stunted retards with a high tolerance for repetition. Nagisa is shit, all of the arcs are shit, and only Sunohara and Nagisa's parents rescue it at all.
No.33553
>>33550
This is a really great post for the "Things people with shit taste say" thread, you had me going for a second there.
No.33555
>>33541
Steins;Gate is fucking garbage, especially during the first half. I never watched Toradora in its entirety so I can't say much about it but I remember hating the male MC because he was a sissy that liked cleaning and cooking like the little bitch he is.
No.33571
>>33555 (checked)
I also can't fathom why anyone would enjoy the trash heap that is Steins;Gate. All I ever heard as I was watching it was "It gets good after you're 50% done it, don't worry it will get better" But the only thing that changed was it went from character building with autismo sperg scientist with no redeeming features and his inexplicable harem of 5 women, (One of the most lazily masked masturbation material incel scenarios since To Luv-Ru) to the most bullshit plothole filled "It just werks" microwave magic time machine storyline that could be written by any pick your poison Youtube science shows marketed to highschool freshmen. I do have to give credit to the producers of the show for expertly weaving a web of marketing ingenuity in how they captured the pseudo-intelligent power fantasies of every 14 year old since Inception, doubly so since they're the prime group for spreading interest with each other like its the second coming of Christ. I encourage any Anon who holds Steins;Gate in high regards to post an example of the show being "intelligent", "creative", or any other 4th grade adjective i've heard used to describe this steaming pile of pandering so we can collectively laugh at them.
No.33578
>>33555
>>33571
Stein's Gate was fine. Overrated as fuck, but it's fine. Stein's Gate 0 is actually trash. It's completely pointless and devoid of anything that made the original entertaining.
No.33582
>>33578
>Stein's Gate was fine
The second half was "fine". First half is honestly up there with some of the worst anime from the 2010s. I watched the first episode so many times because I just couldn't get through the horrible character interactions. As >>33571 kind of states the entire sci-fi plot feels like an excuse for just another harem show.
Now that we're talking about overrated shows that are controversial to hate, does anyone not get the love that Madoka Magica gets?
No.33583
>>33582
The character interactions were part of the charm, but to each their own I guess. As much as I feel SG was overrated, I'd rather converse with a fan of that than someone talking up shonenshit or something super cancerous like Sword Art Online.
Madoka Magica was popular because it had unique art direction during fights and the story/drama was appealing. I don't consider it to be overrated but I understand that some parts of the fanbase became grating over time. Madoka became "cool to hate" in recent years and people wrongfully accuse it of setting a trend for "edgy magical girl shows" even though that has been done long before Madoka was a thing.
I've also never seen someone openly gush about Madoka IRL like I've seen with other annoying fanbases, which is a bonus.
No.33584
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>>33583
I thought the art direction during the fights were good as well but the characters felt very bland (especially Kyouko) and the show wanted you to care about some cunt that was killed off in one of the first episodes and barely got any screentime. The story had horrible pacing, I think it would have been better if a story like that had been told in 24 episodes rather than 12. I remember there being lots of plotholes as well.
The worst part is that I could have seen myself enjoying it, if it wasn't so damn popular. Back when it had just aired people were praising it as one of the best anime of recent years and it probably just led me to have too high expectations to ever have it satisfy me. It's not really bad I guess but it isn't good either, it's the type of thing that you watch once for the visuals and then never touch again.
I much prefer the Monogatari series or anything else made by Shaft for that matter. I think Shaft is just not cut out for anime-original shows, the reason why they're so great is that they can spice an already existing story from a manga or LN up with cool art and animation. Same goes for Trigger really, they're one of the few studios right now that make shows that look genuinely good (like LWA) but their writing is shit.
Pic unrelated.
No.33605
>>33571
no shit the mechanics of the time-travel are pure fantasy. a show doesn't need to be hard scifi in order to be entertaining. and while i can't really criticize you for not liking the characters since that's just a matter of personal opinion, i thought they were fun to watch and enjoyed the show from episode 1 onwards.
someone pushing the show for being 'deep' and 'intelligent' is missing the point, it's a fun time-travel show to watch that has slice-of-life elements for part of it also. there doesn't need to be some deep explanation of time-travel mechanics in order for it to be good, nor does there need to be some high-falutin intelligent backdrop.
No.33609
>>33605
>and while i can't really criticize you for not liking the characters since that's just a matter of personal opinion, i thought they were fun to watch and enjoyed the show from episode 1 onwards
I never got what people found so likeable in the main characters. The two male ones act like a bunch of autists, and not even socially awkward autists but "I'm an adult but act like a fucking child" autistic. They scream made-up bullshit in public and the guy in the labcoat acts like one of those chuunis. It feels like the writers have never met real people before and just based the personalities of the ones from other, equally generic and shitty anime. Then there's the token trap character who is part of the reason why I consider this a harem romcom disguised as a time travel story. And of course the bitchy tsundere but oh "the writers were self-aware about it because they also watch anime hehe she is like a deconstruction of tsunderes so le funny".
The few characters that I liked were side characters that barely got any screentime like the bearded landlord guy or the mentally unstable woman with the glasses. The show has a great OP though, I'll give it that.
No.33610
No.33611
OP here, I got another one:
>I dropped Lucky Star on the first episode
No.33617
>the memevangelion isn't overrated
No.33619
>>33584
I think we're getting into personal preference/opinion over "bad taste", but I respect your opinion. There are a lot of "sacred cow" shows out there that simply won't click with everyone. Even I'm not above it.
For example, Haruhi is considered to be a timeless classic, I honestly couldn't stand it no matter how hard I tried. I thought the characters were grating and the show was full of bad gimmicks. Those are fighting words in almost any anime community, even here. I've come to accept that it's not necessarily a "bad" show as much as I just don't like it.
No.33630
>>33619
Funny, I'm a huge Haruhi fan myself and the Disappearance movie is possibly my favourite anime of all time, I recommend you watch that one if you haven't seen it because it's a bit different from the TV series. But I don't know, I think it's easier for a young male anime watcher to relate to the nihilistic Haruhi's Kyon who doesn't enjoy life that much like a lot of people on this site and is annoyed by the behaviour of the females around him rather than Steins;Gate's Okabe who seems like the physical embodiment of Reddit; screaming internet memes out loud and still playing pretend as an adult.
I get what you mean, in the end liking a piece of media is all about personal opinion but I still think you can break down why a fictional character could or couldn't work and I think the ones from Steins;Gate just don't work.
No.33631
>>33630
*Haruhi's nihilistic Kyon
No.33633
>>33584
>The worst part is that I could have seen myself enjoying it, if it wasn't so damn popular
That's a disgusting attitude but at least you are honest about it.
No.33634
>>33609
>acts like one of those chuunis
Did you not pay attention? This is explicitly what he's doing and he does it because it makes his friends, and Mayuri particularly, happy.
No.33636
>>33633
>That's a disgusting attitude
Is it that weird that when so many fucking people online claim that a show is the second coming of anime christ and I NEVER hear anything negative about it that I couldn't feel but disappointed when the show was in fact below average? Aside from myself I have never read or heard any major criticising of the Madoka Magica series online. I think a show like Eva can't be called overrated because there's still thousands, maybe millions of people online who feel a strong hatred for it and don't get the love it gets but there's just certain shows that only get showered with love as if the few people who disliked it were drown out by happy noises and MM was one of those shows.
>>33634
I did pay attention, the show almost states what you wrote literally. That doesn't make it any less retarded though. Mayuri herself is a retarded cunt that acts like a little child because her grandmother died, something that every person will eventually experience. The show doesn't even show the grandmother or any examples of the bond she had with her, making it even less believable that's she's still that worked up over it.
No.33638
>>33636
>like a small child
She was a small child when she died, and I don't understand why you'd need their relationship spelled out explicitly instead of implying they were close.
No.33644
>>33634
>Main character acts like a retard to appease his retard friends
>This is a good thing
No.33646
>>33187
>>33189
e-celebs are GAY
this place is disgusting
No.33647
>>33638
>She was a small child when she died
Nice reading comprehension faggot:
>Mayuri herself is a retarded cunt that acts like a little child because her grandmother died
I was talking about the behaviour of Mayuri as an adult.
>and I don't understand why you'd need their relationship spelled out explicitly instead of implying they were close
Again, read the fucking post:
>something that every person will eventually experience
Meaning that for her to be that mentally unstable about it years after it had happened would imply a relationship that is more intimate than that of the average person may have had with a relative that isn't a parent or sibling but of course, this is not shown because the writer was a lazy hack that wanted to make quick bucks on a poorly-written harem with le epic 2ch maymays.
Fuck, the more I talk about this show the more I start to hate it. I had a similar discussion with a Steins;Gate somewhere else and it always devolves into "uh uh well I like it so it's good".
No.33654
>>33647
I'm still not sure why you think that needs to be explicitly shown when it's pretty clear that Mayuri's grandmother was especially important to her. The VN is entirely from Okabe's perspective and the anime adapts this, so what's shown is what he remembers.
No.33671
>>33654
>it's not the animes fault for adapting badly from a VN. Don't blame it for the one dimensional boring characters, because it was like that in the source material :^)
No.33687
>>33671
I see, so it's going to be like that.
No.33692
>unlike other mecha, this show focuses on the characters!
No.33710
>>33692
I really want to know where this attitude comes from, it's such a common statement for no discernible reason.
No.33730
>>33168
>every episode is just the same thing over and over again. What's the point?
No.33738
>>33710
Most mecha is character driven/focused, and that goes back all the way to Gundam 0079. Some mecha shows may have more action scenes but even those tend to be emotionally charged. I think the only ones that aren't really driven by characters are a handful of short OVAs or films that don't really allow for any kind of character development either due to time constraints or shit writing, but even then that isn't always the case.
I think that statement tends to come from people that haven't seen all that much mecha and they make the assumption that the show they're watching with less action or whatever is more "character focused."
The average western anime "fan" tends to be a retard with a low attention span anyway, I've seen people label episodes devoted to plot and character development as "filler episodes" because they didn't watch something explode for 20 minutes.
No.33742
>>33702
It still doesn't make that shit pile of show good.
Only in some SRW games SEED was somehow bearable.
No.33983
>I care more about the characters than the art, soundtrack, writing, or directing, and you should too.
The main problem here is the "you should too" - I may have really liked the characters in an anime I consider shit and won't watch again, that anime is still shit. This happens a lot actually. It's easy to create an endearing anime girl that someone will pick as their waifu. Good characters cannot carry an anime for me. Others want anime to give them cute girls enjoying their life or getting put into impossible scenarios, and that's fine too as long as they aren't shitting up threads. I even like some myself from time to time, particularly when everything else is good too.
>Because X did it better, Y is automatically shit.
>Because X, the film/book/any other medium, did it better, Y is automatically shit.
Why not X and Y are both good, but X is better, you fucking plebs? One medium is not inherently better than another by the way. It's all up to the individual work. Y is sometimes shit, of course.
>The adaptation is better.
>The remake is better.
>The reboot is better.
This is almost never the case, but there might be exceptions that I'm not aware of. Can't think of any off the top of my head.
>Because X theme/trope in Y is popular/has a higher amount of trash, X (and therefore Y) is automatically trash.
Y may still be trash, but X theme/trope doesn't make it so. Like the medium, it's up to the individual work. Might be exceptions, I don't know every single theme/trope in existence. There's also the matter of personal taste, doesn't have to be "X is shit and Y is shit too."
>Fansubbing is better than ever before.
Faster subs are not inherently better, fuck you plebs. It doesn't even matter if you prefer localized or translated subs, speedsubs and licensed subs are almost always shit. That said, it is still better than some of the really fucking old fansubs of some anime where the translator obviously didn't know enough Japanese. Fansubbing was way better about 7-11 years ago, somewhere in there, before simulcasting fucked it all up.
>I want the English/international anime industry to thrive.
See above, licensed shit is awful and we should go back to fansubs, even with the shitty translations, for the good of anime.
>There is nothing wrong with western influence/funding in anime.
Why anyone would want anime to start effectively catering to normalfags is beyond me, and that's what will happen if this shit continues. There's nothing we can collectively do to stop it though, so I don't think it's worth having lots of threads about. It's up to the nips to say "fuck off gaijin" to anybody that would ruin their works. I hope they will, or at least the studios that don't end up with employees leaving to form their own non-kiked studios. There's always manga and doujinshi though if things get bad.
And finally, just for OP:
<Now that I'm back from the pride parade, it's time to post another petty argument thread on /animu/! :^)
No.34326
>>33983
>Because X did it better, Y is automatically shit.
Or, as its commonly phrased:
>I don't know why anyone would watch this trash when X exists
But I've already seen X you moron, and I'm looking for similar content.
No.34354
>>33983
>"I'm going to hate on OP for trying to get people to post things they don't like about other people"
>Posts things they don't like about other people
>Saged!
Fucking moron
No.34480
>>34354
It's a joke. Lighten up, faggot. The sage was polite in nature, because this thread didn't really need to be bumped. Pretty much everyone already responded and the board is slow enough it's not in danger of falling off anyway.
No.34556
>>33168
i will give you 6/10 for that good bait, i almost thought you werent baiting until i saw the last one about Evangelion.
No.34561
>>34556
Nah, it wasn't bait. Steins;Gate is garbage, already explained why so I don't feel like repeating myself. Same goes for the first one.
I feel like the one about the dub and Crunchyroll don't need to be explained and anyone who dislikes Eva has braindamage.
No.34827
>>34561
what OP did is a classic bait, he wrote things that are universally true and then he shoehorned last one to bait people into agreeing with him, for clarification first 5 things he mentioned are good but then saying Evangelion isnt overrated is just silly.
Even Anno himself said he put christian symbolism everywhere because "it looked cool" and had no deeper meaning behind it, names picked for characters once again Anno's words are "they sound complicated", episodes being animated on a weekly basis were a huge mess, Anno would come and give them the script for that week then at last day he would storm into the studio off his depression meds and demand a drastic change, thats why plot was constantly going random places and episodes didnt chain, you had one episode that heavily implied Asuka and Shinji had sex and then it suddenly goes into hatefest territory between them for no real reason at all.
TL;DR OP is trying to bait people into agreeing with him that Evangelion isnt overrated.
No.34829
No.34831
>>34827
>Even Anno himself said he put christian symbolism everywhere because "it looked cool" and had no deeper meaning behind it
Mate, the concept of Human Instrumentality appears in the Kabbalah, a book of an esoteric current of Judaism. Anno said he used Christian terms "because it sounded cool" to a bunch of children in elementary school (that picture is from a TV special in which he teaches a class from his old school in case you didn't know). Do you seriously think he would explain the true meaning behind certain of the more complex aspects of the show to little children who obviously were not that intelligent? What a fucking joke. As seen in that same TV special and as said by himself, Anno is not the type of person who likes explaining stuff unless asked to, he gave very straightforward answers to the children's questions that often left a lot of the imagination.
>you had one episode that heavily implied Asuka and Shinji had sex and then it suddenly goes into hatefest territory between them for no real reason at all.
Because they are mentally unstable teenagers who were not prepared for having sex. Asuka was just using him because she felt lonely and did not recieve the attention from men she craved so much. She also was implied to want to grow up fast, to become an adult woman and what's more adult than having sex? But of course, because she's young and doesn't really like Shinji, she's bound to feel disgust towards him and herself for fucking him.
You're just as bad as that other guy, like I said in an earlier post: just because you are not looking for meaning in the show doesn't mean there is no meaning. Eva isn't a show that spoonfeeds retards and tells them straight up what everything means, you're supposed to look for meaning yourself.
Just because the guy told a bunch of 11-year children once that everything in the show is just to "sound cool" people are using it as an excuse to pretend that there's nothing more to the show, I'm sick of seeing that same image being posted for fucking years now. Go fuck yourself. If I was Anno and I had to deal with retards like you talking shit about a show I had put so much effort into I would have killed myself years ago.
No.34858
>>34831
>Anno is not the type of person who likes explaining stuff unless asked to
so, has anyone asking him of all the shit he did in eva?
No.34862
>>34858
A lot of the more heavy elements of the plot were explained in videogame adaptions and books that came with DVDs. The fact that the EVAs themselves contain the souls of Shinji's and Asuka's mothers was revealed in the PS2 game which was made together with Anno's help for example.
https://wiki.evageeks.org/Classified_Information_(Translation)
No.34867
>>34862
Anon that could easily be shoehorned in just to make the game stand out.
No.34868
>>34867
>I didn't even read it
No.34869
>>34862
>A lot of the more heavy elements of the plot were explained in videogame adaptions and books that came with DVDs
any interviews with anno in those DVDs?
No.34874
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>>34869
I'll admit that I don't know that but I do know that Anno generally doesn't like interviews and even when he gives them he tends to give answers that aren't worth a lot. I did read an interview he did together with the director of Shoujo Kakumei Utena in the late 90s which was somewhat interesting but he barely says anything about Evangelion in it.
You should check out the TV special where he teaches a bunch of children animation. Again, he doesn't explain anything about Eva in it but it does give you a bit of an idea what he as a person is and what kind of life he led and seeing as a lot of characters in Eva are based off him to a certain degree it can be a pretty interesting watch.
No.34879
>>34874
Text-only version of the interview between Ikuhara Kunihiko and Hideakki Anno:
http://www.cjas.org/~leng/anno-ikuhara.txt
They're actually friends in real life and some believe that Shinji & Kaworu were based off Anno & Ikuhara respectively.
No.34961
>>33187
>I own a "My Little Sister Can't Be This Cute" T-shirt
I own a "My Little Sister Can't Be This Cute" T-shirt
No.34963
>>33271
>but steins;gate was very good
>also likes cum on fags
well looks like you have shit tastes
No.34967
>>33541
>toradora
toradora is for fags who likes to get beaten up by lolis
No.34968
>>34967
>he doesn't like getting beaten up by girls
No.34969
>>33611
Its a parody anime, so it is ok to drop it.
No.34986
>>34862
>>34831
>evageeks aka Evangelion Internet Defence Force
No.34991
>things people with shit taste say
I like anime.
No.35013
>>34986
Why are you so butthurt about me linking that site? It has decent information on it. Or is this another one of those "hurr I don't like the forums so that means the whole site is bad" bullshit like with MAL? Because I've never browsed forums.
No.35015
>>35013
evageeks is literally an Evangelion Internet Defence Force, they overanalyze everything in Evangelion and claim it has more depth than other people think, its like just in bieber fanatics claiming his music is deep and intelligent
No.35024
>>35015
Most things in Eva do have more meaning than the average seasonal viewer thinks.
No.35025
>>35024
some things do, majority of them that are chanted by Evageek community doesnt have tho
No.35052
>>35015
That's a terrible comparison. They have citations for quotes and translations of interviews which is a significant help, whether or not you like the community.
No.35065
>>35025
That's really vague, it seems like you're just trying to strawman here since you don't actually list any examples.
No.35080
>>35015
>Bieber comparisons
The absolute state of anti-NGE fags.
No.35162
> Evangelion is overrated
No.35168
No.35189
>>35052
>>35065
>>35080
>>35168
delusional Evafags are hilarious
No.35191
>>35189
Normalfag please, go back to /a/.
No.35192
>>35191
>rabid eva coclsucking
<everyone who disagrees with me is a normalfag/9gag/f/a/ggot/boogieman
>>>/tumblr/ is that way, secondary trash.
No.35193
>>35192
You're hating on one the best anime ever made for the sake of being contrarian. Just go be a nigger somewhere else.
No.35199
>>35193
>evangelion
>one of the best anime ever made
>using contrarian unironically
This bait needs to stop, (You) enormous f/a/ggot.
Wait your ban out elsewhere, this is the final (You) from me to (You)
Keep it up and you'll be looking at a spicy ban from here too!
No.35201
>I'm not like those other anime fans, I only watch the real shit like Jojo and Attack on Titan
>Don't lewd the lolis!
>Most anime is gross and embarassing, I hate being lumped in with those people
Ironic weebs/self-loathing anime fans are the worst.
No.35207
>>35193
>the writing is mediocre
>doesn't even have a proper conclusion
>doesn't even have enough budget to make a final episode
>having worst girl Asuka
>having shitty MC Shinji
<best anime ever made
No.35213
steins gate is about disclosing that CERN are doing shady shit, berensteins, AIs, bitcoin and all that
eva is just a remix of gnostic shit
gits is pretty cool
lain is love
No.35217
>>34874
well thats a shame
No.35226
>>35201
>I'm not like those other anime fans, I only watch the real shit like Jojo and Attack on Titan
>Don't lewd the lolis!
>Most anime is gross and embarassing, I hate being lumped in with those people
Literally nothing wrong with any of these things.
No.35249
>>35233
I hate "ironicweebs" the most.
No.35265
>>33168
>Things people with shit taste do
Fixed for what I want to bring forward:
>Watch the anime and never want to touch the source manga
No.35297
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>33168
>I prefer the live-action version
No.35298
>>33168
>Evangelion is good
OP is bait. This is now a dubs thread. Check'em.
No.35432
>>35233
I too enjoy strawmen.
No.35470
>>35201
The only right answer in this thread.
No.36049
>>35199
Fuck off poopyhead.