/abdl/ - Adult Baby - Diaper Lover★

>>53775 (OP)

Also forgot

>Only sneakers or loafers, not boots

>shoes must remain untied at all times

>All beverages must come from sippy cup or bottle

Firstly, I hope you're not some degenerate who wears shoes in the house. Secondly, I think such a game would be fun, but I I find that there has to be something at stake to get me to follow the rules. I like to shove marshmallows into my ass, do enemas, and similar stuff to achieve a truly helpless accident, but nothing actually works because I voluntarily poop after the stomach ache becomes too much, not when my bowel muscles fail. I think the reason is because I put myself in that situation with nothing to lose. Now if I just wore underwear and not a diaper that would work, but I could always run to the toilet, or I could go out for a long drive and wait for it to happen, but then I risk staining the seat or worse, get pulled over experience the most embarrassing situation of my life if I have an accident. Not something I'm willing to chance. What I really need is a time lock safe. That way I could put myself in such a situation with a real consequence for failure and I can't just take off my dirty diaper right away so I have to hold it until I absolutely cannot anymore.

>>53775 (OP)

Sounds nice but unless I get a gf I might as well be a dl since I’m only into the humiliation factor and additional things just haven’t done anything for me.

>>53775 (OP)

>quitting drinking

>smoking weed

You are just trading one escape for another.

You already have a lack of self control, so I guess it makes sense that you are trying to expand that lack of control.

I often like to imagine playing games like that, although I have too many real life commitments and not enough privacy to really do it properly.

I have come up with a couple of ideas for potty training style games.

1. You have a certain number of points to spend on grown-up things like using the potty each day. It costs 2x points to use the potty after bedtime, and it costs 2x points to use an adult toilet rather than a potty (if you put a potty seat on a toilet it counts as a potty). You get more points by doing babyish things like sucking on your pacifier, recording your accidents on a potty chart, and watching babyish TV shows or youtube videos.

2. Find/create a phone app which gives you potty reminders at random points in the day. The catch is that whenever you get a reminder, you have to immediately try to pee and poop in your pants. If you don't make very frequent visits to the potty you'll inevitably end up having an accident. This could be combined with potty restrictions to make it even more of a challenge.

I like your idea of not being able to push, even when using the potty. It must lead to a very babyish feeling of having to sit and wait for your body to do its thing.

>>53791

Fuck off. Nobody wants to hear your moralfag whining.

>>53791

Found the /christian/. Weed is as safe as diapers. Alcohol can kill you

>>53794

Technically if you're smoking weed it's only as safe as smoking tobacco, but you're right that it's still orders of magnitude safer than alcohol.

>>53796

Let's not derail this thread with a stupid argument started by some shitposter from /christian/.

It's true that it's a lot less addictive than cigarettes at least, which in a sense makes it safer. Plus you need to smoke less to get high.

>>53795

If the same chemicals that were in cigarettes were in joints and blunts then that would be true however that isn’t the case. It could be argued that it is as dangerous as cigars but that’s about it and even that only means neither are that dangerous in moderation.

>>53799

Fuck it. The thread's been derailed already and people keep posting, so let's just have a long and pointless argument about weed.

First, are you talking about pre-assembled cigarettes or the roll-your-own kind?

If it's the latter, I don't see how there could possibly be any more harmful chemicals in those than there are in an equivalent joint. They're both essentially just dried plant matter wrapped in identical packaging.

>>53785

>Firstly, I hope you're not some degenerate who wears shoes in the house

This is the only reason why America is inferior to places like Canada or almost all of Asia. It's a disgusting habit and you should be ashamed if you do this.

>>53803

Of course I’m talking about pre-assembled

>>53803 here.

Actually I've just discovered and read this article:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277837/

It's very interesting. I doubt there's no risk of cancer from smoking weed, but they do offer some very interesting explanations for why it could be much lower.

I learned something new today.

>>53808

That's not really a comparison of the drugs themselves then - it's more of a comparison of packaging technology.

To be honest you should just be vaping infused oil or wax to eliminate all of the health risks of both nicotine and cannabis.

>>53813

I actually did for a short while but the dab almost broke my vaporizer thankfully I was able to clean it up. Ever since then I only vaped it in it’s pure state though that was only a little while since I quit nearly a year ago due to the fact I’m about to graduate into a career lucrative enough to do hair tests.

>>53816

I really don't understand why US companies are so obsessed with drug testing their employees. If a company tried to do that here I'd quit on the spot, and I don't even do weed.

>>53807

>>53785

I wear them to my front poarch

>>53817

True but at least I know I’m capable of delayed gratification because of it. Fact is though I’d probably be all for it if they were only testing for harder drugs like crack, meth, and heroin because those drugs do pose a risk to a company as for weaker drugs it completely depends on who’s using it and if weed causes someone to underperform chances are they’d underperform clean too.

>>53817

It's to weed out black applicants. The same reason we have militarized police, unwalkable suburban towns, barely any welfare, no vacations or maternity leave, hand guns in public and surveillance cameras everywhere. All of "america's weird quirks" are just ways of keeping blacks in line

>>53821

That may apply to the drug war itself considering people from the Nixon administration admitted so as for the others there are better explanations. The reason we have militarized police is because of instances where perpetrators were aware they could outgun the police and exploited it and since we have been fighting many wars over the years there were plenty of companies ready to provide them the guns. Unwalkable subirban towns are not unique to America in the slightest every country has some kind of dangerous slum that is more dangerous compared to parts that are better off its not a race thing it’s a class thing. The lack of welfare, vacations, and maternity leave have nothing to do with race and everything to do with Supreme Court decisions enabling companies to basically bribe politicians to do whatever they want. Hand guns in public is caused by people who prefer to be protected even in public sure you can just avoid the dangerous of a city but why should someone have to. Finally, the amount of security cameras is to prevent and record crimes taking place it is a problem caused by paranoia of everyone not just blacks especially after 9/11 happened.

>>53776 Damn the amount of learning in this sexy thread is amazing BTW tho don't walk around with your shoes untied it's dangerous and fucking annoying as hell if you were to do it like id smack a bitch being like oh I like the way it looks (insert rage face with a background of fire as the minions of hell trample all who untie their shoelaces) I digress sexy post tho

>>53817

It's mainly done as a liability issue because everyone is constantly suing everyone in this country.

>>53785

There needs to be something on the line when rules come into play.

For me I found rules that inconvenience me but actually kind of go in the direction of my kink to work well.

For example I have a parental control sofware installed that can be set according to what good/bad points I have acquired. You have to set consequences that you find thrilling but still are somewhat bothersome.

One such thing I do is I have a small tent meant as a ball-pit. Limiting yourself to that space with plushies and the like inside is a bother, but also comfy and the thought of being limited to that childish thing is a nice touch for me.

I have no issues with limiting myself, so I don´t need to go down the line of timed locks, but have considered so a few times. There are locks for exactly this kind of scenario however and I see the appeal of actual true limits.

I have also programmed scripts for nanny programms with clothing/food/timetables with activities depending on good/bad points regression level progression and more. It also involves chances and set diaper changes but those are for now enforced through self moderation. It would be really easy for me however to implement a small usb connected key safe to actually enforce it.

I plan to do this during the summer holidays among some other ideas since activate-able magnets are immensely useful, as they can be double and triple secured by multiple time-limit electrical outlets to make failure of all safety measures practically impossible so no chance to be stuck.

I´ll post some of the rules I use later this week as I lack the time now to get them all noted down right now.

While it is interesting to post about drugs and their dangers, please try to post it in a relevant thread (there used to be one here for drugs and diapers IIRC) just not to derail this thread. I´d gladly join in the discussion about the points made (studying clinical neurology) but I´d rather see this thread develop as it is of interest to me.

I respect and share your interest in the discussion, but please don´t derail this thread.

>>53835

Whats the parental control software and what is this nanny program? would you upload your program/script anon?

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>>53828

can you faggots fuck off, thanks

does anybody have posts actually related to self imposed rules?

>>55192

>>53835

So I love rules (self imposed or otherwise). Generally, the only place I've been able to find/get much is through GetDare (do not read this as a glowing recommendation of the site).

This was one of my favorites.

http://www.getdare.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=248967

It could probably use some "balancing" (depending on how hard you want it to be); but I think it's fun. It's not meant for like these are the rules for my life now, but rather a challenge essentially.

>>55569

Holy shit anon… I'm the guy that wrote that dare. Can't believe its still floating around online and people enjoyed it that much! Do you have any specific feedback about it? If I remember, I was going to try to make another similar dare, but I met my current GF a couple months after making that, and have been tied up (literally and figuratively) ever since. You're right though, GetDare has some decent diaper tasks, if you're willing to wade through 9 billion posts by ten year olds and people that are literally deeply mentally retarded.

If I'm allowed to be autistic and post a manifesto, here are a few things I've noticed about a lot of ABDL tasks out there rn.

1) People are fucking uncreative. Most dares or tasks pretty much involve the same three or four rules, like wearing diapers, not changing until wet/messy, etc… if you don't have interesting or novel rules, its not going to be an enjoyable experience to play/obey.

2) As you said, tasks like this should be a fun challenge, not some code to live by. Most people just get off to stuff like this, and the few that actually end up following these rules have an attention span of like one or two weeks tops. If you're making rules for yourself/others having an end point not only makes it manageable, but also gives a task a point, instead of endless diaper wearing.

3) Another thing that's hard with tasks compared to an irl dom, is that in irl there's always a tension between the sub and the dom. The dom can add more rules without warning, can be unfair and force punishments on you, or even just make cute/humiliating comments. An online task cannot (Although Virmst was good at that.) So, I think rulesets need to have some variety to simulate the feeling of powerlessness a real dom gives you, and complexity seems to be the best way to do that. When three or four rules interact together and totally fuck you over, it ends up making you feel kind of weak and powerless. Good shit.

Anyways, enough autistic screeching from me. I suppose in return for listening to me rant, I'd be fine making a custom rulesets or two if people want. I actually kind of enjoy making complex shit like this.

>>55589

Oh wow didn't expect to find you here. I did it a while back (and gave you some feedback you took in some of the updates on posts in that thread). But it's a been a long time.

From what I remember, an issue I had was I was drinking double water constantly for a long time (without looking I don't recall what the cause was). And I was basically just drinking the maximum water I could without getting water logged; and that's not a good spot to be. But in general getting water amounts right is difficult since a post like that is going to be done by people who weigh 90 pounds and 300 pounds.

And yeah I agree. Basically, for myself, I try to manage expectations going in. If the challenge is really extreme I know 1-2 days is my max. If it's around where yours was (challenging but not life consuming) a week or 2. For something to be "permanent" it has to be really non-intrusive (at least at first).

The longest I've worn diapers was about a month and I had to make an effort to basically not just make everything about the diapers (and during that time I had someone sort of helping). Prior to that, I think your challenge was the longest I wore for.

I personally try to write dares (mostly as a means to an end). I love complex stuff, but usually whenever I try writing any either it's complex to the point of tedium or I end up copying something like your dare too much.

Anyway I'd love a ruleset!

>>55589

To give more specific feedback (because it's easy to avoid responsibilities). Somethings I think could have been improved:

There wasn't much reason to do the pull ups section. It's a hard thing to do, as you want the default state to be diapers, but you don't want to discourage using pull ups; but as it stands it seems more optimal to skip them. Perhaps require so much time in pull ups before panties, or perhaps creating a specific challenge that must be done in pull ups before "Graduating"

It seemed easy to get a huge lump sum of points by doing 1 off things (watching videos, buying a potty, etc.). Probably not a bad thing but maybe restrict how much can be done at a time or change the amounts.

For personal preference I'd want bedwetting to maybe be more involved. (Requiring being wet before getting out of bed, what-have-you). In the current form it almost feels disconnected. There's a bed time that makes a difference, but like wetting the bed is sort of on a separate axis from the rest of the dare.

Just for making things more complicated, instead of having the daily gained/lost points (which I think is a fine system); maybe daily random challenges based on if you're wearing diapers/pullups/panties. Perhaps six for each; the lowest is basically strictly negative but can be mitigated; and the highest is strictly positive but can be reduced; with the other tasks falling inbetween. (Just spit-balling; but in panties you could have like timers forcing you to try to pee; in pull-ups maybe you have to try to hold it as long as you can that day to build up strength or something)

Anyway, all that is to say I still think the dare is one of the better constructed ones. Some is personal preference (wanting bed wetting involved, wanting it to feel like slower progression, adding a bit of spice, etc.)

>>55589

I'll second >>55602 in asking for a custom ruleset ~

Though I haven't actually tried your original dare yet, it looks very fun.

>>55671

>>55672

Sorry guys, I've been working on a term paper this week, so been backlogged. Do you guys have emails so I don't shit up the thread?

>>55675

Yeah. thegatewatch1 (at) gmail for me (the ramble-y one)

>>55675

silly (dot) sloppy (dot) slut (at) gmail is the one I use for things like this ~

>>55589

Oh dude, really? I loved that dare! It (and a few others) inspired me to make my own version because I wanted it to have a bit more of a progression. You know, make it feel more like you're actually being potty trained and your point-gains/losses being linked to how much your cg trusts you. (and avoid the fault that >>55671 mentioned)

I'll paste it for those interested

https://pastebin.com/1amag7Ws

Like I said, greatly inspired by several other challenges so it may be a bit derivative but I tried to perfect the formula for my specific wants. (don't have a lot of extra rewards for instance because I don't have access to stuff like a pottyseat or shit like that). However I'm open to criticism of course.

>>56004

That seems pretty awesome. For myself personally, I wish there was a bit more discouraging bladder retraining (aka making it harder). But maybe phase 0 is prevalent enough for that.

Anyway going to be starting this in the morning. Thanks!

Christ so many weed addicts in this fetish

>inb4 but it's not addictive!

So why don't you stop?

>>55675

Id love a custom ruleset too if you wouldnt mind I think itd be fun

vnikb99 (at) gmail

>>55675

jessicacruz121 (at) yahoo