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 No.43437[Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Is it just who just can't stand the whole japanese infantilist ~ a e s t h e t i c ~?

Like, I hate the weird diapers that the women wear there, as well as the style of their childish; the colors don't seem to go very well together -- it's a weird combination, it's waaaay colorful also (it triggers my designer side a little bit haha) – the patterns on their onesies and other clothing items it's seems…. EXAGGERATED, it's very over the top. It's a lot "lolita-like", I think.

They also have weird combinations of clothes - like, which baby would wear an onesie and HIGH SOCKS?

(Ok, tbh, I there are photo-sets of sites like ABDreams, of ABDL women wearing high socks, but… I mean, they are not blue, for god sake! haha)

It seems like a poorly drawn caricature, at least from a non-japanese western influenced point of view.

I don't know how little children and babies are raised in Japan, I don't know the clothes that they were, I googled a little bit and I saw photos of little babies and little girls dressed in clothes that are not that different from the ones that the women wear on sites like Baby Gals.JP, so I assume it's not something that it came from nowhere. It makes a allusion and reference to the japanese infancy (if there's someone from Japan here, please correct me if I'm wrong).

It's just sad because japanese women are so cute and look naturally so childish, it would so beautiful seeing japanese ABDL women wearing western childish-like clothes + western style diapers.

P.S: Sorry my little rant here haha

 No.43441

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Oh, I had forgotten, here's an example I could find of japanese toddler clothes.


 No.43451>>43455 >>43456

This is a p common phenomenon OP

Older ABDL tend to be into reusable cloth, younger ABDL will not necessarily want their disposables to be encased in crinkly plastic

I've also noticed that only 60 year old uggos wear old-timey baby bonnets in pics


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>>43451

I dont get that. I like the baby clothes of today, I think it looks cute and would like some outfits in my size. I dont actively look for clothing from the 80s. Also because of the cost and how easy it was to hide I ended up really liking cloth diapers and now that I'm on my own have a stash of reusable cloth, disposable plastic and cloth backed, and plastic pants.

Also I like the Japanese outfits because they went to the trouble of recreating them in adult sizes something westerners are really lazy at or dont care about. Western abdl seems to heavily focus on the diaper, wearing clothing that enhances it or just having it show in some way. Whereas Japan focuses on the whole outfit wearing cute baby or childish clothing whether the diaper shows or not.

It's kinda like those guys that wear super tight footed jammies just to show of that they are wearing diapers, whereas it would be normal to have the jammies a little more baggy.


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>>43451

>I've also noticed that only 60 year old uggos wear old-timey baby bonnets in pics

I'm fine with japanse ABDL but I find the outfits old people wear to be really offputting. To me baby bonnets look like a baby themed prop from looney toons and not something babies actually wear. Late 20th century baby clothes tends to focus on onsies, shortalls and pajamas, whereas mid 20th century is more femanine and has lots of dresses and bonnets.


 No.43496>>43505

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Nowadays children are increasingly dressed as mini-adults, perhaps with some childish countenance here or there. It is increasingly rare to see a child dressed as the girl on the left. And I was thinking about how this change in children's fashion would affect infantilism, which has as one of its parts the idealization of childhood, the idealization of the "childlike look".

What happens to the people who would be infantilist in the future, and who are children nowadays, and who were dressed as mini-adults in their childhood? How will this affect "the concept of the childlike look" in the infantilist community, since it is no longer particularly distinct from adult clothing? How will this affect infantilism as a whole?

Because, obviously, this is a fetish/way of life that is influenced by the existing concept of childhood. The clothes, for example, that many infantilist people idealize in their fantasies, like the other aspects, are the same ones that existed in the time when they were small.

And obviously we can extend this to other areas too, such as toys. Nowadays it is very common for children, even very young ones, to play with tablets, cell phones, etc… instead of more "traditional" toys.

The central point here is that our sexuality is affected by changes in society, both social and even technological.

In this context, more specifically, we can highlight the invention of the disposable diaper and its subsequent popularization, which became something that became a typical symbol of childhood and permeated an entire generation. A countenance that had not existed before.

Overall, also, our view of childhood in the West today - as a time for children to play and have fun and be free of responsibilities - is relatively recent. In the past it was common for children to work in factories from a young age, unfortunately, then, this simply was not part of the concept of childhood. In fact, even childrenswear is relatively new, in the Victorian era it was common for children to wear the same clothing as adults from a certain age, including a corset.


 No.43505

>>43496

But children also had to be "breeched," which is when a young boy started wearing pants instead of a dress, usually about 3 or 4. Very small children wore frilly clothes and were seen as somewhat gender neutral. However by the time they got to 10 or 11 they were seen as young adults. The idea of childhood emerged in the late Victorian era when child labor was beginning to under scrutiny and mandatory schooling was coming into fashion. The idea of teenagers didn't start until the 20's when there was enough overproduction for consumerism to replace industrialism.

I think the whole "my kid is a little adult" comes from SWPL parents who want to show off how gifted and hip their kid is.

>my kid is so cool and therefor so am I


 No.43507>>43509 >>44601 >>44616

I dont like the fact that Japanese still use those ancient cloth diapers from th 60's.

I also hate their awful old person diapers. And their trend for wearing really over sized diapers that are way too big.

But on the other hand Japanese girls are usually very good looking and not fat.

And in the past few years they started to have some nice goodnight style pullups.

Im guessing in 10 or 20 years Japanese DL porn will resemble western diaper porn of today. And western diaper porn will change, based on all the cloth backed diapers coming in now.


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Was born in the eighties but definately wish these would come in adult sizes.

I also like the diaper covers the japanese use, but then again, I like the look of diaper gussets in general. Oh but I agree the cord or string japanese diapers are lame compared to the velcro or snaps covers.


 No.43509>>43510 >>43662

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>>43507

It sounds like you just dont like cloth diapers. Cloth is just thicker than a disposable will ever be. They arn't oversized.


 No.43510

>>43509

>It sounds like you just dont like cloth diapers. Cloth is just thicker than a disposable will ever be. They arn't oversized.

I dislike their trend for oversized disposables most of all. I always think for a slim petite jap girl they could have easily ordered small instead of medium or large.

But that style comes from the fact that bulky cloth diapers are common over there. As you point out, in cloth diapers a lot of bulk is required.


 No.43662>>43668

>>43509

I did the math on cloth after trying it. The cloth doesn't last as long as the manufacturers claim, and that $500 is the raw cost is for the diapers, not the extra inserts needed, laundry detergent, water, and electricity for the machines. Also, only newborns need 10 diapers a day, disposables can cover a normal person at 5-6/day which, at the rate in your picture would mean that the cost is equal to cloth- YET- has none of the extra cloth costs I just mentioned.

Disposables cheaper than cloth and has no labor necessary. They should be taxed since disposable use is bad for the environment but they're not, so suffer for the good of all if that's where you want to make a difference.


 No.43668>>44503

>>43662

I went with cloth because I dont always use so rather than waste a disposable, well you get it.

Also the best method for children is just using a diaper service. Cloth is bad and good if you live in drought prone areas disposables are better but in landfill restricted areas cloth is better. There never really is a no impact magic bullet solution when it comes to saving the environment, just actions that have less of an impact depending where you live.


 No.44503

>>43668

diapers make up less than 2% of landfill volume. I think paper waste, which is recyclable, makes up like 51%. If you want to make a difference in landfills, recycle paper, dont switch to cloth diapers. Also cloth requires a TON of energy to wash dry. You have the energy going into the water and cleaning the water, manufacturing the soap and all that. With disposables you still have the manufacturing costs of the diaper itself though, but not the huge energy costs of washing it.


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>>43507

>And western diaper porn will change, based on all the cloth backed diapers coming in now.


 No.44608

>>44601

I swear i'm the oldest person looking forward to this (26). First diapers I bought as a kid were Huggies, just when they became cloth-backed


 No.44616

>>43507

>And western diaper porn will change, based on all the cloth backed diapers coming in now

God I fucking hope not. Cloth-backed diapers are the worst.

But I don't think we really have to worry about that. The ABDL community overall prefers plastic-backed, so ABDL diaper manufacturers are going to continue pumping those out. Light-to-moderate incons tend to swing towards protective underwear or cloth-backed briefs. Discretion is the name of the game for people that don't need the full protection adult diapers can offer. But for the rest of the incons that require products like Abena/Molicare/ConfiDry/North Shore, protective underwear and cheap cloth-backed briefs won't cut it. You saw how riled up we all got when Depend Protection with Tabs got "updated" to cloth backed. The community (ABDL and incon together) made such a fuss that Kimberly-Clark actually listened and returned to plastic-backed.

Believe it or not, we're actually a big part of the reason there are so many high-quality adult diapers on the market. If you go on incontinence/IBS forums and read through their discussions, you'll see them talk about how manufacturers don't seem to listen to their feedback. Keep reading and you'll see them voice their disdain for us and our autism, but then they'll begrudgingly admit that it's our activity in the adult diaper marketplace that keeps the quality up. Shit, a lot of these people will even say they prefer the ABDL diapers because they're better than a lot of the top-shelf medical products.




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