/abdl/ - Adult Baby - Diaper Lover★

We need SIGNIFICANTLY more males and less females in our porn.

>>24824

I've seen the video. It's not all that great. Although it is interesting to see a Japanese ABDL video that's using premium western ABDL diapres.

>been talking to a girl for almost 2 years now

>first we mainly did rp in which she played mommy but it grew into a friendship in which abdl is secondary

>never really wanted a ldr relationship because we live on the other side of the planet and being in one would just add pressure and jealousy

>sperg out at her a number of times because i'm insecure and afraid that i said something that would make her hate me, she doesn't care and comforts me everytime

>grow really close, message each other whenever we feel upset about something

>she's been feeling really depressed lately because of pressure to get married and mental problems

>she wants to study in my country to get away from it and be with me

I'm at a loss, I could pay for it with my savings and probably kill myself if things go wrong or lose her and blame myself for the rest of my life that I didn't take the chance with the only person who ever accepted me.

>>24851

Unless you're very wealthy paying out so much for another person is probably not going to go well.

Even if you are incredibly wealthy never hinge your emotions so strongly on a female. Statistically every relationship carries a 75% chance of failing.

If you do this you need to either get more comfortable with the idea of being by yourself if it doesn't work out, or learn to cycle through women in your life until you find another one who's accepting.

>>24851

How much is your life savings anon? How long did it take you to save that much?

>>24851

you're being catfished

>>24877

It's not so much that I feel like I can't live without her and can't be by myself, whenever something really upsets me, I get into a panic or psychosis even, it's that that I fear will happen.

I'm the male version of the girl with daddy issues, I'm only interested in girls that make me feel safe and which I can trust to be in control. That's something that repulses the majority of women and if it doesn't they're usually just bitches that like having someone to push around, so I've largely given up on them.

>>24879

About 8000 euro's, took me 4 years. That and the money that her parents will send her should do.

>>24885

We have cammed, and i've seen social media accounts that are confirmed real. If she would still be a catfish, she wouldn't have waited two years.

>>24889

That would have been my response too to a similar post. I feel this is different though, none of the warning signs have been there with her.

>>24906

Meh, might be worth it. What's your end game after this visit, though? If you can't afford to have her live with you after she hypothetically falls in love with you it's going to be a disappointing waste IMO

I like how in every other place on the internet, a Japanese girl tied up with a pacifier in her mouth and wearing a bright pink adult diaper would be disgusting and strange, but for us it's like "yeah, you know that looks like a good header image for our general discussion thread."

Are there any plain white diapers with two tapes instead of four?

>>26037

I think Rearz has one. Never ordered from them though. Not sure.

>>26037

Dry 24/7, ABU Simple, Bambino Bianco, probably more.

>>26037

>>26045

Misread. I'll go commit sudoku now.

>>24820 (OP)

if there's a source vid, I don't care how bad it is, I want it.

I'm thinking about using an ABDL phone mommy, but I'd probably feel dirty afterwards, and not in a good way.

I also don't know how to pay without revealing my real identity.

>>26143

How do you pay for diapers?

>>26143

It's a complete waste of money. If you're going to throw your money away like that, hire a real whore.

Where do I go to meet hot ABDL chicks?

By "hot" I mean moderately attractive. Not-hideous. Under 25, though.

Fetlife is "not a dating site".

The ones that are dating sites, do they have actual females on those?

Or just a bunch of 55 year old men who are obsessed with poop?

>>26158

Use fetlife and go to muches, parties etc

>>26158

You won't be able to find them anywhere.

Trying to go to local meet-ups and groups might get you somewhere but most girls who are going to these things are 1. Already getting hit on by a shitload of creepy dudes. 2. Mentally unstable. 3. Ugly.

Good luck with that, but you're better off trying to find a girl who's just into some really basic domme/sub stuff and then bringing the diapers into it.

>>26152

If anyone asks, I'm incontinent.

>>26155

Are you kidding? Phone mommies are incomparably cheaper than prostitutes. The specific one I've found only charges $20 an hour, though she's rarely available.

>>26158

>>26161

>2. Mentally unstable

this, so fucking much, this.

I've tried using fetlife for meeting other abdls, male and female. Excluding the 2 guys I've remained friends with who ended up being really chill and having more in common than pissing ourselves everyone else were complete fucking nutjobs that needed to be locked away.

>>29019

I figure it's a simple way to extract humour from juxtaposition: Old people acting like young people, but taken to the extreme. You can see the reverse situation in that animated movie where Alec Baldwin voices a baby. Making the subject an old, fat, hairy guy just enhances the contrast and makes it less likely for people to fap over. Not to mention there would surely be quite an outcry over commercials featuring women reduced to the status of children, given the state of debate over feminism these days.

>>29023

>I figure it's a simple way to extract humour from juxtaposition: Old people acting like young people, but taken to the extreme. You can see the reverse situation in that animated movie where Alec Baldwin voices a baby. Making the subject an old, fat, hairy guy just enhances the contrast and makes it less likely for people to fap over.

I agree with that, but it still seems weird that the same contrast isn't played on with women in the media. The fact that it hasn't kinda implies that women are seen as more childish in our culture in general. Since the greater contrast is achieved by using men in these gags.

>Not to mention there would surely be quite an outcry over commercials featuring women reduced to the status of children, given the state of debate over feminism these days.

Yeah, that is probably true for nowadays. But given how bizarre advertising has been. And given that disposable diapers have been advertised since like the 1950's-60's, with most of that advertising targeted towards women, it seems odd to me that nobody has seen the overlap or done a commercial that way.

The lack of women being babified in mainstream media still just seems weird to me.

I'm having a girl come over in 30 minutes to try taking an enema in her aww so cute pink diapers.

Met her on fetlife. Chatted for a bit. Typical bigger girl into the fetish. Relatively cute. Said she wants me to give her an enema and mess in front of me. Will post updates if she actually shows. I'll see if she'll let me take pictures for you guys

>>29063

Did she show up?

>>29088

She ate him.

>>29122

also into vore; deets?

So I want to talk about this girl I met a little over a year ago online.

I was on Omegle and met her under the "bedwetter" tag.

Now, not sure how many of you search tags like that on Omegle, but 99% of of the time it's people roleplaying as teenagers without admitting it. But it's totally obvious. Nobody ever asks "Do you want to roleplay?" they just go straight into saying their a 16 year old girl or whatever.

I go along with it. It's fun.

So anyways about 13 months ago I come across someone saying they're a 17 year old girl. She says her name is Brittany and she's from Florida and a bedwetter. So I say ok, well I'm also 17, and a boy (I'm actually 22 at the time). I tell her I also wet the bed.

Now like I said, it's obvious people are roleplaying because they claim stuff like their parents still change them at 16, blah blah blah.

But Brittany is talking very "realistically". So I stick with it and do the same.

Eventually she asks if we can keep in touch on Kik and I agree.

So gives me her username and we start talking there.

Her username is her actual full name. So I search Google for her name and the city she lives in and first results are her twitter and instagram.

Holy shit. She's an actual 17 year old girl and not some 30 year old dude jerking off to our conversation.

But she could just be someone who knows this girl and is pretending to be her. So I tell her there's a lot of people who are fakes on Omegle and I was wondering if she could send me a picture of her touching her nose.

For those who don't use Kik you can either select a photo to send from your gallery or take a "live" pic through the app. Well she sends me a live pic of her touching her nose and its really her.

So we start talking daily.

The thing I notice, is the conversations get more and more…."fetishy".

She talks about how she had to wear training pants 24/7 until she was 8.

She talks about still having to wear Goodnites on long car trips.

One morning she texts me that she slept over at a friends house, and just woke up. Tells me her friend is taking a long shower and she has to pee really bad. Goes on talking for it about 5 minutes and then tells me she is having an accident.

So…..could all that be true? Maybe. But it seems obvious to me that she has a fetish. Is she an actual bedwetter? I don't know maybe. There's definitely more too it though.

Now, one thing I find from her Facebook is that she is super, super, super Christian. Typical small southern town Christian.

In the past year of talking, she constantly disappears for weeks, sometimes over a month at a time. Her excuse coming back is always "I was busy sorry."

What I THINK is the case….is that she gets guilty over her fetish due to her extreme religiousness, but then eventually can't resist the urges and comes back to talk with me.

She's currently in one of her ghosting modes.

I'm wondering if I should keep the charade up, or if I should call her out on it. Nicely I mean. Ask her if she really does wet the bed or if she has a fetish and is struggling with her feelings towards it.

I mean, it has to be the case she has a fetish doesn't it? What are the odds a now 18 year old girl who is truly about to have an accident in a pair of Goodnites is going to be actively describing the situation to someone through texts?

>>30061

>I'm wondering if I should keep the charade up, or if I should call her out on it. Nicely I mean. Ask her if she really does wet the bed or if she has a fetish and is struggling with her feelings towards it.

Do it, and keep us updated.

And what city in FL? Just curious; I'm also in FL, central.

When I get on Omegle(not often lately), I usually search the 'abdl' and 'diapers' tags/ Might have to search the 'bedwetter' tag next time.

>>30061

I'm also starting to guilt out of this due to religion… not sure if its a good thing or not but I can vouch for it, it can definitely happen

>>30070

Ok this is an actual serious question, why is religion soooo influential on a persons thinking towards thinking their fetishes are bad? This isn't the first time I have heard this either.

I am Canadian and a confirmed but clearly non-practicing catholic (pre-marital sex, I am living with my Fiance out of wed-lock, even before we got engaged) and I have no fucks to give about my religion. I believe in my faith, but the judgemental, I am better than you cause I go to church, people piss me off. Be a good person, and you will be rewarded IMO. My fiance isn't religious at all and is "spiritual" more than anything, but it was literally a non-issue and nothing I ever cared about…

>>30072

I was raised Catholic myself. Confirmed and all that too.

I'm from Massachusetts in the US. Very liberal state, on par with Canada in many ways.

My parents were Catholic, my grandparents were Catholic, I was taken to church every Sunday, went to CCD every week, etc.

Now as an adult I've become an atheist.

However, even back when I was Catholic, I was the same as you. I never felt any guilt towards these desires in terms of my religion (of course there was some "guilt" in the sense I just felt I was weird, but I think we've all gone through that).

I've got this theory….no proof of it….but it's what I've seen.

I believe the Catholic Church instructs priests and Bishops in liberal areas of the US (or in liberal countries as a whole) to preach and teach in a very liberal/moderate way.

While in very conservative areas of the US (or again conservative countries a whole) to teach and preach by the ACTUAL Catholic doctrine/catechism.

I was never once taught that contraception was against the Catholic church as a child or teenager. My grandfather refused to believe it when I told him after learning the fact, and he's been seriously involved in the church, Knights of Columbus, all that. It wasn't even taught to him here 70 years ago.

But in conservative countries, it's something every Catholic knows from childhood.

As a kid, I remember news reports about how some Christian churches HATED Harry Potter and said it was devil worship, etc.

My mother and grandparents insisted to me that it was only the "crazy Protestants…Southern Baptists, etc." and their like that thought that way. Catholics weren't like that at all.

But I found that's untrue. Search on Google for some of the biggest Catholic message boards.

Read about the actual Catholic teachings, and see what Catholics in conservative areas who actually learn the entirety of the religion say and think.

The actual Catholic religion is up there with Morons and Jehovah's Witnesses. It's twice as crazy as Baptists.

But I've derailed my own original comment……..

I still want to know what people think of this girl I've been talking to and what my best option is the next time we speak.

>>30072

this is just MY experience with AB/DL not a critique to anyone else BUT myself so please refrain from going all apeshit on me

I'm just talking from my own experience, but if I had stayed away from AB/DL and been more into a more strict and religious teachings, much less into selfish seek of instant pleasure without delving this deep into the ultimate thrill of AB/DL desires and fanatasies, more focused in prioritizing family values and good health thoughout my life I probably wouldnt be in the sad situation I'm right now, 40years old, virgin, without prospects of actually having a meaningful relationship with a woman who will love me and help me raise a family, no, I was selfish and I gave into the easy pleasures of infantilism, ageplay, diapers and fapping many many times to this kinds of things falling deeper into depression and convincing myself that I was worthless and disgusting and not worthy of love and understanding from a normal and upstanding woman, I got hooked into this and I REFUSED to look for a vanilla partner, I ONLY wanted DOMME woman into this fetish and that has driven me to dispair, loneliness and utter hatred for myself and my weakness to control this mental sickness I call infantilism. Nowadays I realize that being into this fetish has hindered me my whole life in a way that can not be healed back into sanity and stability.

You might not want to hear it, but the afterglow of an orgasm in your diaper cannot last forever, but striving for something that requires an effort and sacrifice of the self leads to utter control of animal impulses that keep you back from achieving your true potential as a human being, but then again, you might simply just want to lead a life of soft cuddly plushies and happy cummies in your diapees.

>>24823

I don't mind taking some pictures for ya, what do you like?

I have to agree with some people on here, that there HAS to be a lot more Men - Male Models - that need to get into the porn side of the ABDL scene, as Daddies or Baby Boys - Straight and Gay.

I do wonder why none of the lads who are fit who have posted selfies of them in their nappies on Tumbler and Fetlife - Not go into porn or softcore stuff?

If I had the money, time and location: I'd set up my own ABDL male porn studio with a Nursery and Adult Actors and Models.

It's an ambition that could happen.

>>30125

oops, I'm retarded, it's upside down haha

>>30070

same here. That or disappointment from parents. That's why I never attempted.

Not bad, but all boys in role-play should be pubeless!

>>30131

Thanks. Assuming you meant me. I plan on shaving tonight actually. I'm just starting incontinence training, but I wouldn't mind taking photos. Any ideas on what you'd like to see?

It's just me and my phone, so don't expect anything over the top. I can't sleep and I'm bored.

You do what you want.

I am not seeking any photos from any lad.

>>30212

I'd chalk it up to the massive list of content you aren't allowed to share or request

>>30214

why aren't they allowed to share & request

most of the stuff (I've seen their huge blacklist over there! wtf?!)

and 8ch is?

Whats the difference?

>>30215

they're scared that okok will actually take them to court for copyright infringement lul

>>30215

Because they've been threatened with DMCA claims from content creators and don't want any trouble. Luckily, 8ch don't give a fuck.

>>30215

They go above-and-beyond what is required by the DMCA. 8chan requires a full DMCA notice in compliance with the law, then only removes the offending content. Newfapchan accept any kind of badly formatted takedown request and then go out of their way to police their users and "protect" (read: suck the dicks of) the copyright monopoly holders.

You can tell it's a shit site because they care more about other companies than they do about their users.

>>30212

I honestly dont know how it used to be before but now its just plain shit

just tumblr reposts and NOTHING MORE, even the /girly/ part have GIGs of shit being shared there although mostly is free shit of good quality for them, but still anything remotely copyrighted gets removed or isnt allowed to begin with, honestly this is the last safe place for abdl media sharing

>>30243

Definitely true.

I don't know where I'd go if this site shut down.

>>30262

Oh definitely, she's one of those who enjoy her diapers extremely thick, I love that about her, she's beautiful and fun.

>>30355

is this a fetish-diaper

or used in hospitals?

>>30355

I think it's 新の一天, meaning "new day".

>>30367

What kind of photos do you like to see?

Out of sheer curiosity, how old is everyone here? At any point do you ever feel as though you're too old for something like ageplay or diaper play?

>>30415

28

It's an inevitability we'll become one of those older folks. I've long since come to terms that diapers and age play is something apart of me for life.

>>30401

Well stuff like:

>>30367

>>30372

>>30373

Normal looking around 20 something dudes. I'm personally not in to those "abs and muscles" kind of dudes, but currently I'll just about have anything normal looking.

Personally… I just like DL stuff, that sissy and AB stuff isn't my cup of tea.

Well, I just brought my first package of Depends today. Nothing too fancy, I know, but it's what I could afford.

I'm sitting in a very wet one right now. But I'm curious: how many full wettings can one handle before it leaks? I'm wearing a Fit-Flex, if that matters.

>>30535

not much for a depend. Look for medical diapers, but you're best bet is online

Amazon sells Abena M4s for an OK price

I was in a chatroom for an RFSwitched stream last week and there was a bunch of people talking about watching the inauguration and how the protesters were all liberal degenerates. It fills my heart with joy to know that not everyone involved in this fetish is an SJW fuckwad.

>>30859

Not a trump support (I'm Canadian actually) but totally agree. A few years ago Fetlife was awesome to be on, now it's like walking on fucking eggshells as god forbid you use the wrong word for something. This forum is probably the best ABDL hangout right now.

So….about 6 months ago I met girl into the fetish online that was looking for a daddy.

She was 19, I'm 30.

Now, she's 100% real, I've had more than ample proof.

She's a very nice girl, and after 6 months I generally do care for her. I'm happy to have her in my life.

But…being a "daddy", even just over texting and occasional phone calls has become a fucking CHORE.

Now, first of all, she's a "non sexual little". To me, this fetish is all sexual. Honestly I have trouble believing people who claim they're abdl but it in a totally non sexual way. That's another story though.

One thing that drives me crazy is that she's OBSESSED with punishments. She constantly asks me to come up with "new" punishments for if she did x, y, or z.

There are only so many fetish related punishments in the world and she constantly asks me for new ones.

On top of that, we use to have real conversations. Now she just wants to talk about stuff related to this fetish and nothing else. Absolutely nothing else. I have no idea about anything that's actually gone on in her life for the past 3 months.

And it's the SAME shit day in and day out.

"Daddy I wish I didn't still live with my parents.

"Daddy I want diaper so bad but I'm too embarrassed to buy them in person."

Daddy I'm too scared to order them online in case my parents find the package."

Daddy I wish I wore diapers.

Daddy I wish I had baby stuff.

Daddy wouldn't it be nice if I had a bottle?

Daddy I wish I had a pacifier right now.

Daddy how you would you punish me if I did X?

Daddy how would you punish me if I did Y?

Daddy how would you punish me if I did Z? "

……

I think my biggest mistake was not realizing how immature and annoying a 19 year old seems when you're 30.

The other thing is, I live in the US, she lives in Norway.

She has it in her head that once she finishes college in a few years that she's actually moving here to live with me and a be a full time 24/7 baby.

Honestly, when this relationship started I thought she would get bored in a couple months and move on.

She's taken it way more seriously though.

Again, I do care for her. She's really sweet, and innocent. She's also very naive. All that also leads to her being way too sensitive. Like I said, I don't want her totally out of my life, I've grown to care for her, but I can't say anything without her freaking out and crying…..

I don't even know what I'm saying really….this just seemed like somewhere I could vent a bit.

>>30869

I'm actually a little with an online daddy, we live on opposite coasts of the US and have been together for about three years I think? I'd definitely say it's a sexual thing for me, though I don't really like the idea of having sex with it, but to get to the point I constantly worry about sounding too needy whenever we chat. We're a closer age range, I'm mid-20s he's late-20s, so I don't think there's that wide of a immaturity level between us, but still. When you occasionally take on the mindset of a hyperactive toddler, adult mode is usually constantly holding the emergency brake whenever I think he's busy.

Anyway there's my piece, just giving you some perspective from the other side of the relationship. I know it might be hard for you, but have you tried going back to what brought you two together in the first place, or was it just the fetish?

>>30792

Got any screencaps of the 'mishkastinks' one?

I looked at the other one, never knew I wanted this

>>30869

>become a fucking CHORE.

>Now, first of all, she's a "non sexual little"

this is entirely my experience with littles online, after two weeks it becomes so fucking boring, i actually get to the point where i dread talking to them and am so glad there's a time zone because i know ill have some safe time of no messages. makes me feel guilty that i'm being so selfish.

and they're needy in the worse way possible, they'll ignore you for hours and wont say anything but if you don't reply to them in 15 minutes it's all 'daddy why don't you love me anymore?' you literally can't get a day to yourself without getting all this stuff back.

and they want you to fix their problems, jesus i can't even fix my own. its constantly 'am i really pretty?' again again. but the worst is 'daddy im having big girl time of the month :(' well i don't know what to do, surely you know how best to deal with that.

>>30936

Or be a little who's constantly trying to talk to a big and getting no response from people that talked to you a lot at some point.

I think I'm going to start intentionally hooking up with mentally unstable chicks with obvious daddy issues. From the looks of Tumblr, they seem to be the more likely people in having this fetish or something similar

>>31000

it's because your boring and the big isnt getting anything out of it

>>31016

Most bigs are boring as hell.

>Want to play video games together?

No

>Want to watch something on rabb.it?

No

>You have any idea what you want to do?

You're too needy.

It's either that or they're horny and want pictures or something stupid to get them off.

>>32117

I think that's just people in general dude. You need to find someone with similar interests or someone at the very least complimentary to you. It's not just bigs. And yeah, it's not too easy.

What I don't get is why everyone has to 'have' a big. I feel like it's a little reductive. I've always been a little myself, but if having a good playmate required me being a big every now and then I sure as hell wouldn't mind. I'm pretty sure I'd enjoy it.

I think Baby Junior has gone.

His website:

www.babyjunior.co.uk

Has closed down.

Also his Twitter has been deleted.

So does anyone get any /abdl/ related dreams? Here's one I remember vividly when I was 18.

>Been staying with my big sister and her husband, was having a lot of nightmares causing massive trouble sleeping and would wake up tired as fuck

>Sister would give me cuddles usually in the morning, deeply concerned about my trouble sleeping and would try stuff like herbal teas, cocoa, getting me these scented baths to help me sleep etc, all the usual remedies.

>One night having weird dream that sister walks into my room to give me cuddles, I start fussing heavily.

>Sister unbuttons her blouse and shows me her breast, then pushes my head towards her nipple. I start sucking on them instinctively

>Start to get a warm creamy taste in my mouth from her milk, begin to relax and settle down feeling happy.

>Wake up and see a figure leaving my room, closing the door behind them. Have a weird taste in my mouth but drift quietly back to sleep.

>Wake up in the morning actually feeling refreshed for once, had a goodnight sleep.

I used to have ABDL dreams all the time. Usually sexual ones or ones where diapers are a normal thing in society. Which is one of my big fantasies.

However, for the last few years I almost never remember my dreams. I don't know what's happened to my Psychology, but I haven't remembered a dream good or bad in the last 3 or 4 years.

>>32654

Same, but I know mine stopped when I started using pot to regulate my sleep better and that's a common effect.

Used to have very vivid diaper humiliation dreams. Lots of being diapered in public places.

>>32654

try telling yourself to remember your dreams before you fall asleep, like when you are sitting in bed. Thats always worked for me. Its like playing dream slots honestly. I never know what Ill end up with. Once I had a dream about an eraser sitting on a desk. It was just sitting there, and that was the whole dream. others have been much more interesting however. Iv had my share of diaper dreams as well.

>>32653

>Wake up and see a figure leaving my room, closing the door behind them. Have a weird taste in my mouth but drift quietly back to sleep.

Erm anon, how did your sister react when you announce you had a good nights sleep? Also was the taste salty at all?

>Couldn't wear diapers for a few months because of living situation

>Finally get a chance to wear again

>immediately wet

>It feels so amazingly soothing I can't move till I'm done

Holy shit, how does something as simple as pissing in a diaper feel this amazingly relaxing?

As someone who loves littlepawz, are ABU's space diapers any good?

>>33705

They're the same diaper with a different print

>>33705

What >>33710 said, I do find that the outer covering feels a little different from the little paws when they get wet though.

Does anyone know where I can buy a wooden AB Crib in the UK, thanks!

Here this guy makes a few different types:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/adult-baby-cot-full-single-bed-size-fetish-bondage-kinky-/322212683071?hash=item4b055f5d3f:g:9f0AAOSwPRlXnuqG

There use to be another place on ebay that had them, maybe if your willing to spend the money get someone to make it might be cheaper or ask a nursery where they got theres

Currently taking Intro to Psychology. Only have a few more classes and our last few lectures are going to be about abnormal psych.

Prof showed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nfvATupMTY in class today.

The discussion that followed was surprisingly not as horrible as I thought it would be. No one outright said 'that's fucked up', though I'm sure they were thinking it.

>>34104

Details! How'd the proff address it, what kind of things were said? I'm curious how normies interested in psych saw us.

>>34110

please elaborate further

>>34110

When we first arrived in class she had this written in the board:

> I know __ is abnormal, because of _.

and she wanted us to pick something(anything, this was an exercise before being shown the video) and complete the statement.

Later on she mentioned we would watch a video she called 'baby guy'(I guess because she used this same video all the time for this lecture), and I had this sinking feeling that it would be some video from one of the many documentaries about this fetish.

So she went on to talk about the 4 D's, which are Deviance(basically, is it abnormal), Dysfunction(does it impair regular life stuff, like having a job, friends, etc.), Distress(does it cause distress, like you hate yourself for being into it, etc.), and Danger(does it cause danger to yourself or others).

Then she showed us the video, and asked us our opinions. Did we think it was abnormal, and why, or did we think it was completely normal, and why.

Everyone who spoke up(like, 4 people, she basically had to pry it out of those people) said it was abnormal, for varied reasons(of which I forget).

Then she asked about the girlfriend and how we thought she felt, were there any red flags that she wasn't really into it.

I said that she mentioned that pretty much all of their money went to his ABDL stuff and that spurred a short, interesting discussion on if she was actually into it.

She seemed like she knew what she was talking about with regards to ABDL, but she could have just read up so she would be informed for this lecture.

I debated asking her whether this clip was from the first time or the second time he went on Dr. Phil, but I wondered if people would wonder if I knew more than I was letting on. which I obviously do.

>>34122

cool, thanks for the inside experience annon

last week, someone at work posted the video where Onision talks about "cushy fetish" on a random chat, that was such an incredibly uncomfortable moment… the cringe generated combined with my effort to pretend to be disgusted, mad and appalled caused me to smoke 2 packs during the breaks

Does anyone here know from experience whether getting a Brazilian wax improves being padded?

>>34196

Never been waxed, but being smooth down there certainly does. Especially if you have the naughty habit of humping things in your soggy diaper.

>>34198

I think I'll try it then since I have a $100 coupon at a spa with a case coming in on Friday.

Why is the public mod log (at https://8ch.net/log.php?board=abdl ) disabled?

Also why did a couple of normal posts just disappear from this thread?

>>34261

Oh, those posts have reappeared now. 8chan is just being retarded again.

everyone hear that binkieprincess broke up with david? is anyone shocked?

she apparently has a new daddy and is back into kitten play according to her tumblr.

>>34530

Who? What? Where?

>>34530

of course i'm not surprised, she tried to make it look like they were really happy together and all that, even when he said he was not into her kink really. However, with the kind of exposure SHE got from the media I'm pretty sure MANY Daddies and Switches into ABDL play contacted her so she realized she could do waaaaaay better and this guy was seriously FUGLY it wouldnt even take a ripped daddy to "make her realize they werent meant for each other" just a slightly more handsome and with more money dude to accomodate her twisted fuck manipulative desires.

>>34531

the bitchy cringeworthy whore who appeared on tv claiming she was NOT into ABDL play sexually but then went ahead and created a clips4sale page because FUCK LOGIC

>>34542

Yeah I have a friend who goes over and plays with her sometimes and does videos with her from time to time on fetlife. I personally think she's creepy as fuck and can't stand looking at anything with her in it.

She came out with some new diapers and I can't bring myself to try them because I know she had something to do with them.

>>34545

Scratch that, I don't guess she came out with em or whatever. She did post about getting them though and I hadn't seen anything about them before they popped up on my feed. It ruined them for me.

https://www.theabdlshop.com/products/carousel-diapers?variant=38177820431

>>34545

may be she is too cringy, even for a girl? like, she cant get the cute, innocent, pretty vibe on, so all that remains its weird, abused, anorexic attention whore bitch peeing in her fancy diapers while playing with her fancy little props

just guessing here fam

>>34542

> However, with the kind of exposure SHE got from the media I'm pretty sure MANY Daddies and Switches into ABDL play contacted her so she realized she could do waaaaaay better and this guy was seriously FUGLY it wouldnt even take a ripped daddy to "make her realize they werent meant for each other" just a slightly more handsome and with more money dude to accomodate her twisted fuck manipulative desires.

I think the only reason she was dating him is because he is an omega with no other option except landwhales. That would give her complete control over the relationship

>>34557

I think you meant to say beta because omega is pretty much on the same level as alpha

>>34548

Boooooring. I would have passed anyways, way more much cuter diapers out there.

So I just got banned from the largest ABDL group on fetlife

I hardly ever used the fucking site, I made my account like 2 years ago, had a few friends from local munches I met but I never used the site. Anyway, this weekend I got bored and decided to comment on a post about the gender-split within the ABDL community. The posts all seemed to be making up excuses for why there are so few women, basically blaming the men for this split, which I can somewhat understand, but every single bit of polling data I have seen indicates a huge discrepancy between men and women, and every con and munch I've been to has been like 90-10 split in favor of men over women.

So I brought this up to them, and I also maybe said some things I shouldn't have about girls like >>34542 who have stated not to be into the fetish sexually and I drew a distinction between cisgender women and transwomen. Maybe I used some language I shouldn't have, but I was certainly trying to speak with candor and honesty.

Well the thread quickly devolved into a bitchfest with every ABDL woman in the group (not many by the way) getting tagged into the thread to imply that I am the reason I never see women; that I PUSH them away by being creepy and it's MY fault that I don't see the women in the community. I'm bisexual, I'm currently dating a guy, I haven't ever sent a message to an ABDL girl for any reason. Yet after one post I had dozens of people calling me a sexist, misogynistic, transphobic creep who deserves to die alone.

This site and the odd abdl thread on halfchan are truly the only places I enjoy talking about this fetish any more. Why does every group or community turn into a bunch of easily offended cunts looking to be offended? Is there any way we can start our own fetlife or kik community where people aren't looking to get angry for hearing words they don't like?

>>34637

Welcome to the kink world in <current year>.

This is EXACTLY why Social Justice is such a fucking cancer. They infiltrate and stay dormant for a bit, only occasionally bringing up their cancer. Then they move on to saying "Oh well, ONLY A HATEFUL PERSON WOULD SAY THOSE THINGS!" They'll call it common sense. People get fed up with that shit until they either get banned or leave.

Just like everything else, the downfall of the "ABDL Community" into Social Justice Cancer started in around 2007. That was where it suddenly changed from a VERY small minority of HNGs being genuinely creepy to women, asking for diaper changes and blowjobs and all sorts of other shit to even PMing a woman without her explicit permission was "creepy", talking to these women about ANYTHING they didn't like was creepy. You are a creep for merely having a dick.

A decade later and now you have to toe the SJW line that there are 2375425624967354687346789346 genders, that if you are male, you are by default a "misogynist creep" guilty of being born with a dick.

The truth is that the ABDL "Community" is split up into three sets:

1) Those of us who are lifetime ABDLs (i.e. We've had this fascination since childhood, we stole siblings diapers, it was a core of us)

2) DDLG cancer jumping on the bandwagon because SJWs are LITERAL children that won't grow up. Ex. BinkiePrincess

3) Camwhores pretending to be ABDLs or riding the DDLG cancer right to the wallets of horny, gullible men in the first category. Ex. PandaPants

Sadly, ABDLs in the first group think that if they white knight hard enough, if they self-hate enough, that maybe one day, the few alpha SJW cunts at the top will let them touch diapered pussy for just a second!

I've been banned from /r/ABDL multiple times now for pointing out all the retarded, backwards SJW bullshit.

>>34644

>That was where it suddenly changed from a VERY small minority of HNGs being genuinely creepy to women, asking for diaper changes and blowjobs

Pshhh, "VERY small minority" my ass. Go look at any female ABDL content posted on youtube or any other video hosting site and the comments are filled with dickheads saying "change my diaper", "go poop in it princess", etc. entirely oblivious to the fact that the content is just ripped and reuploaded by some other sexually frustrated dude. I can't even imagine some of the shit actual chicks that are open about being ABDL receive.

>The truth is that the ABDL "Community" is split up into three sets:

This is some gatekeeping at its finest. So if you discovered ABDL in your late teens or were introduced to it by a partner, you're not a "true" ABDL? If that's what you want to tell yourself to feel superior to others, you should find some other shit to be proud of.

>I've been banned from /r/ABDL multiple times now for pointing out all the retarded, backwards SJW bullshit.

Let me start out by saying fuck /r/ABDL, I agree with you there, but I hear 10x more whining about "Social Justice Cancer" than actual "SJW bullshit". Are there some truly sexist, fucked-up feminists out there demonizing all men? Absolutely, but I honestly never hear from them unless I'm specifically searching them out or reading some rant like yours.

>>34637

You were bitching on halfchan how you find trannies absolutely revolting. I didn't see the fetlife thread, and don't really care. But bitch please, don't pretend you're innocent here.

SJWs demand acceptance. Sane people ask for tolerance. If you can't accomplish that, yeah you're going to keep getting alienated and being alone.

Take some responsibility for your behaviour FFS. You're just jumping from place to place looking for outward validation dude. Time to start looking inwards, maybe consider you are the problem why you're alone.

>>34653

No fucking way…. HOLY SHIT DUDE. You're STILL on that? You're STILL butthurt? I can't fucking believe it. Scratch everything I said before, how haven't you killed yourself?

You deserve a god damned medal for that, if you're still assblasted getting banned TWO YEARS AGO. And you archived the thread you got trolled in for like a fucking year "das nuh me"… just fuck.

Get off the internet. Get a councilor. Seriously… you need some help. You seriously need to reevaluate your life.

>>34655

>No fucking way…. HOLY SHIT DUDE. You're STILL on that? You're STILL butthurt? I can't fucking believe it. Scratch everything I said before, how haven't you killed yourself?

>You deserve a god damned medal for that, if you're still assblasted getting banned TWO YEARS AGO. And you archived the thread you got trolled in for like a fucking year "das nuh me"… just fuck.

No, I remembered PandaPants crying about the LGBT comparison, used the power of Google and that was the first relevant hit.

Not the same anon, good try though!

But let's be honest here: You're trying to deflect because you can't refute any of my points. Go back to white knighting and shut the fuck up.

>>34656

> Not the same anon, good try though!

You just posted a whole thread of you trying that to going "das nah me". Just drop the facade, you really just aren't going to fool anyone. You were banned two god damned years ago. It's the internet dude. Get the fuck over it, and get your god damned life together.

I don't even care about being a prick to you anymore. Get some help dude. I saw you're outpouring on halfchan. You get the entirety of your validation from other people. You need to reach out to someone, and start fixing yourself. It's incredibly unhealthy to still be this obsessed. Seriously, even if you don't think it I'm trying to have a moment of candor here. You really need to start talking with someone.

>>34652

I didn't insult any trannies on fetlife though, I was simply drawing a distinction between them and cisgender women when making my analysis. Yes, I did say on halfchan that I am uncomfortable around trannies, that's never going to change, but I didn't use the terminology on fetlife that I did in that /lgbt/ thread. They called me transphobic for simply drawing a distinction between real women and trannies.

>Take some responsibility for your behaviour FFS. You're just jumping from place to place looking for outward validation dude. Time to start looking inwards, maybe consider you are the problem why you're alone.

Well I just got out of a relationship with an ABDL guy (I'm bisexual) so finding someone hasn't been the problem. And I wasn't posting on fetlife to try to find any one, so I don't know where being alone factors into any of this.

>>34657

OK well I'm not even the person you were replying to that time by the way. Maybe you should stop ascribing my behavior to everyone when you only know my experience from one thread on /lgbt/.

>>34657

Talking to someone off of the internet.

>>34649

> I can't even imagine some of the shit actual chicks that are open about being ABDL receive.

The vast majority of the messages these women get are positive, excuse me for not feeling sorry for them for getting one bad message every now and then. The economics of the ABDL gender market are so heavily-skewed to the females that they literally can pick and choose who they want to interact with, so excuse me for not shedding a tear that they have to deal with creeps when they get literally hundreds of whiteknights bowing at their feet every fucking day.

>>34659

"Das nah me". You do this every time. You did this constantly in the thread you posted, that you're obviously the OP of. You were banned two years ago. It doesn't matter. The internet shouldn't be that important to you, let alone some vapid community on fetlife that you KNOW is vapid but still can't let go that you got banned.

You're anonymous here, yet still managed to have a distinctive identity. A generally kind of shitty one so far, but you stood out.

So let's talk man. Just two people. Why do you care so much you were banned if you can't stand the people there?

>>34657

Nigga, I posted the thread the image came from because it's too small to really read. I didn't even really read all the way down the archive.

>I don't even care about being a prick to you anymore. Get some help dude. I saw you're outpouring on halfchan. You get the entirety of your validation from other people. You need to reach out to someone, and start fixing yourself. It's incredibly unhealthy to still be this obsessed. Seriously, even if you don't think it I'm trying to have a moment of candor here. You really need to start talking with someone.

One small problem: I'M NOT THAT ANON IN THE ARCHIVE THREAD

It seems like you are so utterly devoid of refuting my points that you've instead gone to try changing the subject about your perception of my mental health based on an archive link I posted to provide a source.

You lost the argument in THIS THREAD so now you're trying to scapegoat to another one making connections where none are.

You're fucking stupid!

I was never banned, because I'M NOT THAT ANON.

Stop trying to deflect your blatant white knighting in THIS THREAD.

>>34644

Thank you for being sensible, there is clearly a large percentage of women involved in this fetish for monetary or attention-seeking purposes, and I got endlessly flamed for pointing that out.

I don't know if people who come to diapers later on in life as a kink they are introduced to or as a comfort item involved with their DDLG kink can be truly classified as ABDL or diaper fetishists- frankly I don't really care. The point is though that I have not met many women involved in the fetish who have said they get sexual fulfillment out of diapers or that they remember being attracted to diapers long before they even reached puberty.

It's not a matter of trying to feel superior over them, trust me I would much rather NOT be attracted to diapers- it's a matter of trying to discern who exactly can be classified as a diaper fetishist from a sexual perspective and who is coming to it from a different perspective.

>>34663

I'm not trying to debate you. I could give less of a fuck about girls in ABDL, I'm a faggot. I'm feeling a shred of humanity because you have some issues you should address. I don't know you, but holy hell have you just been obsessed with that ban.

So again, why do you care? If you truly know and believe the people there are awful degenerates. Why are you still torturing yourself over it?

>>34662

What was I banned two years ago from? No seriously- this weekend has been the first time I have EVER posted on 8chan or on Fetlife, and I only recently got banned from Fetlife, so who are you confusing me for? I know I said earlier that I only enjoy speaking about these issues on 8chan, but honestly I only ever read these threads, this was the FIRST TIME I HAVE EVER posted here. So what have I been banned from exactly?

>You're anonymous here, yet still managed to have a distinctive identity. A generally kind of shitty one so far, but you stood out.

You are simply confusing me with somebody else, I'm sorry.

>So let's talk man. Just two people. Why do you care so much you were banned if you can't stand the people there?

Because I wanted to like the people there. I went there, I posted in a thread giving my honest opinion about a controversial topic (the women-men imbalance in the community) and I got endlessly flamed for it. I got called a transphobe for drawing a distinction between cisgender women and trans women. I merely gave my opinion and I got attacked endlessly and from all sides.

>>34665

Just so you're aware, there are 3 people on this thread right now posting, I am the one who posted in that /lgbt/ thread and so far these are my posts in this thread:

>>34666

>>34664

>>34661

>>34659

>>34658

and

>>34637

So two times already in the last hour you have assumed that I was the person you were quoting incorrectly. I just want to make sure you;re aware of that.

>>34664

>Thank you for being sensible, there is clearly a large percentage of women involved in this fetish for monetary or attention-seeking purposes, and I got endlessly flamed for pointing that out.

You'll find that will happen a lot in this modern kink world. It's because white knights like

>>34665

Who are so utterly drunk on the SJW/White Knighting Kool-Aid they must look for ANYTHING to deflect the conversation away from logical reasoning like "Harassment on women in ABDL is a SMALL MINORITY and in fact, most ABDL women enjoy a surplus where they can camwhore themselves for cash to the very men they say are 'Creepy'"

So instead they try to deflect the conversation away to ANYTHING else, usually personal attacks.

It's funny because sunlight is the best disinfectant and faggots like this will be shown for the pathetic pussies they are.

>>34668

I completely agree about the experience of women in the fetish. I can't tell you how many times I heard from whiteknights and the camwhores themselves how "horrible the ABDL experience is for women" because they get a random PM from some guy asking them to change their shitty diaper, when 95% of the interactions they get online are grovelling positive bootlicking from whiteknight beta fucks. I just can't fucking stand listening to these women pretend to be endless victims and fucking complaining about how they can't attend ABDL conventions or munches because of the negative experiences they have had, when they have a literal army of jackboots online who do nothing but defend their honor and treat them like fucking God's gift to diaper fetishists.

How many men get paid to post pictures of themselves wearing diapers? Do you even know of any? And yet these bitches pretend that women have it tough in the community? It amazes me anyone puts up with their incessant bullshit.

So I see you scrambling. Dude, no one but the OP would archive and bring up that thread. C'mon. You need to let it go. Just do it for yourself. You CAN actually just stop caring. Stop caring what people on an anonymous image board think, who wouldn't recognize you if you'd stop revealing yourself.

You can pretend you were just drawing an honest and innocent distinction among cis and trans. But there's no reason to keep up the facade. In any second you can move on. That's sort of the beauty of anonymous message boards. Just try being real for a moment. I think it'll help you, because I'm kind of worried about you. I have no reason to be, but I am.

So let's find some common ground first. I also think 36 genders is fucking stupid. Naming arbitrary points on a messy ass spectrum is ridiculous as pretending human psychology and sexuality is clean. Or has a 'normal', we's all fucked up. Some are better at hiding it.

You already said elsewhere you found trannies revolting and that you could(would) do nothing to change that feeling. So the "I'm not transphobic" thing is way out the window here. If you have a visceral repulsion, I don't think that could be described any other way.

You had to have known the reaction you'd get? I have a hard time believing you didn't know you were being a shit disturber. With how often you've sought outward validation, why even bother?

>>34669

>I completely agree about the experience of women in the fetish. I can't tell you how many times I heard from whiteknights and the camwhores themselves how "horrible the ABDL experience is for women" because they get a random PM from some guy asking them to change their shitty diaper, when 95% of the interactions they get online are grovelling positive bootlicking from whiteknight beta fucks

Not only do they get the 95% positive bootlicking/worshiping, they shill Amazon wishlists, gift cards and PayPal links for these bootlickers to give them money. Then they still cry about how "creepy" men are to them, effectively shitting on their fanbase for a small minority.

>How many men get paid to post pictures of themselves wearing diapers?

Probably not a high percentage.

>>34670

Give it up already, you lost. Go back to licking your camwhore of choice's used diaper.

>>34671

> How many men get paid to post pictures of themselves wearing diapers?

Former twink here. Paid pictures, naw. Too many guys post that shit for free to monetize. I was able to get paid for cam shows back in the day, but that was mostly for doing more extreme things then any girl would have to do. But even that was fewer and farther between. Had some gifts sent for me to wear. Still have one of the dresses.

The real money is finding an older dude with a decent amount of money, let him have his creepy way and use us to fullfill every urge he has because it feels like love. Benefit off the spoiling until we're not cute anymore and get dropped.

It's not uncommon in the general gay community. It's a nish away from whoring. But I don't regret it. If anything I just have regrets not being cute like that anymore.

>>34670

I'm just telling you how it is dude, you can believe me or not, I am not the OP of this thread or of the thread on /lgbt/ so I don't know why you keep bringing me up.

>Stop caring what people on an anonymous image board think

LOL trust me dude, I have NEVER cared about what anyone on halfchan or 8chan thinks of me

>You already said elsewhere you found trannies revolting and that you could(would) do nothing to change that feeling. So the "I'm not transphobic" thing is way out the window here.

No I am transphobic, there was just no reason for the people on fetlife to conclude that simply based on my separating transgender women from actual women. I am definitely transphobic in real life but I had a problem with them merely discerning that based solely on my refusal to include trans women with actual women. That's not transphobic, that's biological reality.

>With how often you've sought outward validation, why even bother?

I posted my OPINION on fetlife, I certainly wasn't looking for any from of validation.

Dude seriously, you need to stop ascribing so much to so little information you have about me. Feel sorry for me all you want, but I have a fine group of friends and lovers from outside the ABDL community, so seriously cut the shit with the assuming I'm some permavirgin loner.

>>34673

>Former twink here. Paid pictures, naw. Too many guys post that shit for free to monetize

Exactly. I was an econ major, if there's anything I understand it's supply and demand. And there are far too many guys out there, both attractive and unattractive, who post pics of themselves in diapers to be monetized. There are so few women out there willing to do that who subsequently engender a large following on tumblr or who get paid to post these pictures, which means there is very low supply of women in the community. That was merely my point; that obviously there is a huge gender imbalance in teh ABDL community, and that there is a large population of women who simply pretend to be into diapers to get money or attention for it. If thinking that makes me a sexist then I guess I'm a sexist.

>>34674

It seems >>34670 is deeply confused on this thread, not realizing that multiple anons are responding to him. He's a broken white knight experiencing a mental break over not being able to white knight hard enough.

Now he's just devolved to trying to b8.

>There are so few women out there willing to do that who subsequently engender a large following on tumblr or who get paid to post these pictures, which means there is very low supply of women in the community. That was merely my point; that obviously there is a huge gender imbalance in teh ABDL community, and that there is a large population of women who simply pretend to be into diapers to get money or attention for it. If thinking that makes me a sexist then I guess I'm a sexist.

Well let's be honest here, the fact you are likely male is enough to be "sexist" in their eyes. There is indeed a gender imbalance in ABDL and it's obvious.

>>34677

Yeah, I mean I don't want to insult him too much, he's just confused and considering how few posts are made in this thread I can't blame him too much for assuming he's just replying to one anon (me) who he is correct that I was posting in the /lgbt/ thread from yesterday, so he's not entirely off-base, he's just ascribing your posts to me which he is completely incorrect about

Well you're certainly changing your tune. You went from making an honest to distinction, to now actually acknowledging you are transphobic. Sure, you believe you can't help that reaction and don't wish to change that. But let's just take a moment to reflect you kept trying to downplay that reality. You've come to several communities now telling the same story. It's gone beyond just venting. If you were okay with it, you would have moved on.

I can't even understand why you've been freaking out so much. Are you mad you got caught being transphobic? Did you believe you were being so super sneaky sly that it should have flown under the radar and being taken purely on what you viewed as the cold hard logical basis? I don't get what your issue is, and why you keep obsessing over it. You are transphobic by your own admission, and got caught. But don't think you should have gotten caught?

You're perfectly entitled and free to have an opinion. But expressing it does have social consequences. You had to have known that? You know you're transphobic, but don't think you said anything transphobic? I mean, I don't even understand that level of cognitive dissonance.

Stop talking to yourself from phone to computer. I don't honestly care as much as you do. Just think you need to start reflecting, and stop deflecting and blaming everyone else why you're alone. You really don't have to be, but the world isn't going to change for you.

>>34675

> that there is a large population of women who simply pretend to be into diapers to get money or attention for it

Large, no. There's very few actually successful at it. But what you're describing is capitalism.

Are you jealous no one's doing it for you? Are you upset because you're alone and these fakers make it hard to find ones just in it for fun?

We're a porn subgenre. Girls have been faking being into diapers for money since I was 13. I remember JayJ's old tbdl site pointing out red thong panties poking underneath a diaper in early diaper themes porn.

>>34653

Wow, lot of anons up in this thread

>White knight harder, you might see some diapered pussy some day!

I have a gf, but thanks for the knee-jerk labeling. It's a really good way to avoid responding to the points I made. I agree with >>34669 's summary for the most part. Women have a pretty insanely privileged existence in the online ABDL community. Those who complain about any unsolicited contact from men as harassment need to reevaluate their situation, but I think it's also unfair to dismiss some of the crazy doxxing and much more targeted shit that definitely happens.

>if you discovered because of a partner, yeah, you're second tier

Get off your fucking high horse. Someone can be into the same exact shit as you and yet because they were introduced to it by their partner, they're "second tier"? Look at you all high and mighty because you were jerking off at the thought of diapers at age 9. The fuck is the point of these divisions?

>You mean like the consistent posts on FetLife ABDL groups condemning men?

Don't have a FetLife, so maybe I'm missing out on some crazy SJWness, but through casually following a couple female ABDLs on tumblr (which is normally a cesspool of that shit) I've rarely come across people tallying their oppression points. The text posts are like 30% diary posts about their mundane lives, 10% shilling for some diaper company, and 60% cliche DDLG/bondage copypasta.

>Yep, and most of them are the gatekeepers of any ABDL events, parties or meetups.

I never want to see any of you fucks irl. I'd rather lose my left testicle than go to an ABDL event.

>Don't have the original anymore, but here's an example of the REAL gatekeeping for you.

Really not sure what I'm supposed to be seeing here? Are you the guy complaining he wasn't invited to the group's NY party? Boo-fucking-hoo, sorry you're not entitled to go to someone's party that you don't even know.

>>34685

> Wow, lot of anons up in this thread

looooooool

> Don't have a FetLife, so maybe I'm missing out on some crazy SJWness,

You kind of are, but if you have even the most scant amount of social tact and decency it's not an issue. Just don't yell bigoted shit out in public, and you're pretty much fine. People not getting invited to parties… well they don't have that scant amount of social tact. They get butthurt they aren't as sophisticated and logical as they see themselves because they don't have the self restraint to hide their power level when appropriate. Which leaves them alone, bitter, and eager to blame anything but themselves.

>>34686

>>34685

>fetlife

>SJWs

Honestly, I don't see any more SJWs there than I do on facebook or reddit or even 4chan. Lots of entitled camwhores, yeah, but not really SJWs.

What's the deal? Have I missed some critical moment or not joined some huge group?

>>34680

>expressing it does have social consequences

Not if it's a reasonable community not overrun by SJWs. Stop crying about people not blaming themselves for being attacked by cunts, because the issue clearly doesn't lie with them.

>>34695

It's more in the YADBL group. There's quite a few to the far left of myself where it's like "whoa… pull it back just a…. well a lot"

>>34696

> "das nuh me"

Okay buddy. Hopefully one day you'll deal with your problems before you step into the rope.

>>34680

The only reason the people on fetlife labeled me transphobic is because I separated trans women from actual women. I was being perfectly kind toward them, I was merely making the point that there aren't many cisgender women, and for that I was called transphobic.

Had they come to the conclusion based on what I've said here then I would agree with you. The reason I have "come to several communities" had nothing to even do with that interaction. I posted on /lgbt/ initially decrying the lack of normal people involved in the fetish who aren't beta males or creeps or annoying cunts. I only brought up trannies like 10 posts later as one of the reasons I can't stand the community; the incessant search for victimhood that 95% of the people I have interacted with have.

>>34682

>Are you jealous no one's doing it for you? Are you upset because you're alone and these fakers make it hard to find ones just in it for fun?

No, I'm trying to ascertain how many women are actually interested in diapers and I don't include them. And apparently that makes you a sexist misogynist loner creep.

I wouldn't even want most ofthe diaper chicks I've seen, the appear to be stuck up and full of themselves, probably from the constant validation they get from their beta orbiters that pay for their patreons and make their tuumblrs so popular. I certainly would never put pics of me up on a tumblr expecting money for it, I'm just pointing out that the women who do aren't generally interested in diapers if it weren't for the paycheck or the attention.

>>34685

>I never want to see any of you fucks irl. I'd rather lose my left testicle than go to an ABDL event.

Well there you and I can agree, and I've been to a few events. I hated myself more after the events than before so I have just given up on the community IRL entirely.

>>34718

You're not being labelled transphobic. You've openly admitted you are. And lack the social tact and awareness to realize you aren't as subtle or sneaky as you think you are. You're transphobic, got caught expressing those views. And are buttmad you got caught. Just because YOU thought you were subtle doesn't mean you actually were. They pegged you completely correctly. So why are you complaining? They aren't wrong, you are transphobic by your own admission.

You couldn't keep your bigoted opinion to yourself, and you experienced the backlash that bigots receive.

> incessant search for victimhood that 95% of the people I have interacted with have.

You've been crying victimhood though. The irony of you doing it right now that you were persecuted for your opinion and being labelled transphobic. When you damn well know and admitted you are transphobic.

>>34719

> No, I'm trying to ascertain how many women are actually interested in diapers and I don't include them. And apparently that makes you a sexist misogynist loner creep.

You mean you're evaluating women solely based upon their appeal to your sexual urges… naw that's not objectifying at aaaaaall.

The irony, they're still tumblrinas. But glaring lack of self awareness is kind of glaring. Going to break it to you, the reason you are alone has nothing to do with cam models making money on a porn sub genre. That's capitalism. There's demand in the market, and they're providing the supply to meet it.

>>34721

>You're not being labelled transphobic. You've openly admitted you are. And lack the social tact and awareness to realize you aren't as subtle or sneaky as you think you are. You're transphobic, got caught expressing those views. And are buttmad you got caught. Just because YOU thought you were subtle doesn't mean you actually were. They pegged you completely correctly. So why are you complaining? They aren't wrong, you are transphobic by your own admission.

OK we're just going around in circles here. I'm not looking for self-validation, I haven't been excised from these communities out of a lack of social tact, I hardly ever get involved in these communities at all specifically because they have turned into such political and social hiveminds. I'm really not someone who complains about SJW shit much, but the ABDL community is absolutely infected with it; just thousands of people looking for any reason to be perpetually offended.

Dude, they labeled me transphobic for simply drawing a distinction between trans women and cisgender women. If that's being transphobic then you have an extremely low bar for it, as they do as well, I didn't say a single other thing about transgender women, I even said multiple times that I have no problem using their pronouns and referring to them as women, but for the purpose of the discussion I drew a distinction. And I was also referred to as a sexist just as commonly, and I certainly am not a sexist, despite you obviously believing I am.

>You've been crying victimhood though. The irony of you doing it right now that you were persecuted for your opinion and being labelled transphobic. When you damn well know and admitted you are transphobic.

Yes, I am transphobic, but there's no way they could have determined that based on one post where I drew a distinction between cisgender women and trans women. I was going out of my way NOT to be transphobic, but unless you're willing to put up with their self-delusion and actively take part in it then you're a bigot apparently.

>You mean you're evaluating women solely based upon their appeal to your sexual urges… naw that's not objectifying at aaaaaall.

Wow, I have no idea how you could have possibly gotten that out of my statement. This has nothing to do with my sexual urges, I don't even try to get these women, I'm merely trying to determine how many women are actually sexually attracted to diapers because in my mind (and in the minds of the APA) that's what defines a sexual fetishist. Not someone doing it for attention or money or comfort or because their boyfriend is into it.

>Going to break it to you, the reason you are alone has nothing to do with cam models making money on a porn sub genre. That's capitalism. There's demand in the market, and they're providing the supply to meet it.

You're speaking just like them; you're personalizing this when all I was doing was trying to ascertain how many actual women are attracted to diapers. This has NOTHING to do with me, or me being alone. I just got out of a relationship with an ABDL guy and I'm just sick of this community entirely so why would I even want to get in a relationship with anyone in the community? I don't try to and it sounds like you're projecting onto me.

>>34745

Projecting much? Of course people are judged based on their appearance. We do it all the time, it's an inherent part of our society. Generally attractive people will have an easier life regardless of any other factor because we naturally do more for pretty people.

But that's not the issue I was addressing. It's why YOU aren't getting any.

> inb4 das nah me

And it's because you're approaching girls as meat first and people second. What you think, isn't always what you should be expressing. It's basic social customs. It's the same reason we don't tell people about our weird fetish for diapers. Not everything in our head is meant to be out in the outside world, and when you do so you'll face the societal repercussions like isolation and lacking a partner.

>>34752

>But that's not the issue I was addressing. It's why YOU aren't getting any.

Again, that's not me you're responding to, and again you're falling into the same SJW feminist response- to imply that your opponent is a permavirgin and alone and that's the reason they're against you.

>And it's because you're approaching girls as meat first and people second.

I have never approached an ABDL girl at a meet, online, anywhere. You are projecting this behavior onto me. And you may not believe this, but I actually have a very good relationship with many women in my life, I've had plenty of vanilla girlfriends, I've never had a problem with not only picking up women but connecting with them on a personal level. My greatest lifelong friends are mostly women, I am not the sexist misogynist that you clearly think I must be simply because I got some ABDL women pissed at me.

>>34752

Nice back-tracking on your original assertion:

>You mean you're evaluating women solely based upon their appeal to your sexual urges… naw that's not objectifying at aaaaaall.

All of your assumptions about who I am and what my life is like are wrong, so you wasted your time there. Honestly you just come across as a run-of-the-mill offended tumblrina so you don't deserve any kind of thought-out response.

>"people" actually using the word "transphobic" like it means anything other than "common sense"

>on fucking 8chan

>and not getting roundly mocked and permbanned for it

We're all here to enjoy a sexual fetish but nobody with any sense has any respect for men who permanently mutilate themselves

>>34755

second

Look like you're back to

>das nah me

> I haven't been excised from these communities out of a lack of social tac

But you WERE banned from a community for lack of social tact. You even admitted you knew you were being controversial. Then got upset that you faced repercussions for being controversial. That just shows a total lack of self awareness.

> Dude, they labeled me transphobic for simply drawing a distinction between trans women and cisgender women.

But you ARE transphobic. You admitted it. You're just upset you got caught. You can't pretend there was some gross miscarriage of justice when they were entirely and 100% correct about you. Just because you personally think you were sneaky and subtle about it, doesn't make it the case. I can only stress once again, you need to start looking inwards to fix your problems and stop blaming everyone else. Just because you didn't scream "ALL TRANNIES MAKE ME PUKE" doesn't mean you weren't being obvious.

> there's no way they could have determined

It's pretty easy to determine. Once again, the problem is you lacking self awareness and thinking you're far more clever then you actually are.

> Not someone doing it for attention or money

That's capitalism. Seriously comrad, you're not going to make it very far bitching about people exploiting market demand.

> or comfort

Uh… what? So now you're not a 'troo ah bee dee elle' unless you're cumming in them?

> or because their boyfriend is into it.

This is just coming off as jealously.

"B-b-buh I didn't say I was jealous! H-h-h-HOW CAN YOU EVEN DETERMINE THAT UNLESS I SAY DOSE EXACT WERDS"

> when all I was doing was trying to ascertain how many actual women are attracted to diapers.

Because WHY still matters. And the reason why is a pretty logical and easy to follow step. You don't have to spell everything detail out to have the situation read.

>>34753

>

Again, that's not me you're responding to, and again you're falling into the same SJW feminist response- to imply that your opponent is a permavirgin and alone and that's the reason they're against you.

You're still thinking I'm 'against you'. I'm not. Legitimately, I'm trying to reach out and help you. You need to start being more self aware if you want to be less lonely in this fetish.

> I have never approached an ABDL girl at a meet, online, anywhere

Again, just because you don't follow through on explicitly clearly detailed actions. Doesn't mean your intent and attitude don't shine on through. Functional people in society can read social ques, and don't need things spelt out in explicit detail to pick up on things. This is the fundamental portion where you're failing.

> I am not the sexist misogynist that you clearly think I must be simply because I got some ABDL women pissed at me.

Projecting. You're trying to measure out the worthiness of ABDL girls based on some pretty ridiculous and elitest criteria of the TOO AH BEE DEE ELLE. Again, lacking social awareness and tact.

> Nice back-tracking on your original assertion:

I didn't say anything to contradict the original assertion. It's just once again you lacking social awareness.

>>34755

I just believe in personal sovereignty. Nobody but you has any claim over your body. If you want to cut bits off, cover it in graffiti, or experiment with DIY cybernetics that's your choice. It might be a bad choice from my point of view, but there is no objective standard by which to judge choices like that as good or bad. The most you can say is that it's an unpopular choice. A society where chopping your dick off was the norm wouldn't be any more "right" or "wrong" than our current society. It might be shorter lived, but even suicide and extinction are perfectly valid choices that an individual is free to make. There is no objective way of measuring the "correctness" of a particular mind.

Despite that I imagine I would still get labeled as transphobic because I don't care to play along with the political correctness treadmill and I'm not sexually attracted to butch women.

>>34757

I'm not going to continue having the same conversation over and over again. I recognize that I'm not always the most pleasant person, that's not what was at play here.

>It's pretty easy to determine. Once again, the problem is you lacking self awareness and thinking you're far more clever then you actually are.

You have no idea what I said and you are assuming they correctly determined me to be both transphobic and sexist. You are assuming I'm at fault without any knowledge of the events which took place.

> I can only stress once again, you need to start looking inwards to fix your problems and stop blaming everyone else.

I'm not blaming anyone for my problems. I'm saying that they called me transphobic for literally saying that there's a difference between cisgender women and trans women. That's IT. Do you think that is transphobic or not?

>>34762

Stop responding to bait. You need to understand that it's impossible to win an argument against someone who is willing to twist your words and even misrepresent their own arguments. It's like trying to win an argument against a chatbot. No matter how many times you point out its errors, it will just keep responding.

>>34758

>You're still thinking I'm 'against you'. I'm not. Legitimately, I'm trying to reach out and help you. You need to start being more self aware if you want to be less lonely in this fetish.

I don't give a fuck about being lonely in the fetish, I've never met anybody IRL in the fetish I would want to interact with for any reason.

>Functional people in society can read social ques, and don't need things spelt out in explicit detail to pick up on things.

And I'm a functional person in society. You are assuming I'm not for no good reason other than to place the blame on me despite you knowing nothing about me.

>This is the fundamental portion where you're failing.

Again with the "failing" - what am I failing at exactly? I'm not even trying to get an ABDl girl, I'm not even trying to be a part of this community.

>Again, lacking social awareness and tact.

Ugh you're just a fucking broken record. Enough with this bullshit.

> It's just once again you lacking social awareness.

You don't fucking know me. You can't even reply to the posts I have actually made. You are fucking insufferable and I've had enough of interacting with you

>>34763

you're right. I'm sorry for shitting up this thread by replying to someone who just wants to attack me personally.

> You have no idea what I said and you are assuming they correctly determined me to be both transphobic

But they did correctly determine it. YOU don't think they should have been able to, because YOU lack the self awareness to examine yourself.

You want to gloss over that fact, but they were correct. You just don't want to accept responsibility that you outed yourself and faced the consequences of expressing an opinion you knew to be controversial. The WHY you say something matters just as much as what you say. And the why says quite a lot. Social ques.

You know who feels the need to constantly bring up the difference between cis and trans women? Transphobic people.

Tolerant people, don't give a shit and let people be. It's not political correctness, it's just basic decency. The only situation in which I'd personally be forced to encounter dealing with the difference between cis men and trans men if if one were to ask me out. I don't even have to say "no sorry, I only date real mean". Which is how I honestly feel btw and would get the SJWs to freak out. But that's literally the only situation where the differences would actually affect a person. Bringing it up outside of that, says quite a bit more. Caring so much about drawing that distinction says more then just the words you type. Once again, it's you lacking social awareness and an refusal to look at yourself instead of just blaming others who recognized a spade's a spade.

>>34768

I'm not going to keep running around in circles with you. Enough.

>>34768

also just for future reference they are called "social cues" you illiterate.

Just like the last thread spamming das nah me. You want to disengage sure. I hope you reflect a bit. Not everyone who discusses with you is out to get you or be against you. Some people are just trying to help, rather then jocky for a political side.

>>34775

I know you don't want to believe this but you are actually speaking to two (actually by my count 3) separate people. Half of your quotes in this thread have not been me. Believe it or not, I don't care.

I don't see how you can think you're helping by simply calling me a social reject who deserves to be rejected over and over again. It isn't an accurate representation of me or my interaction in the community. I had literally never spoken online with a diaper fetishist in years before Saturday. I'm not the person you are assuming me to be, and I'm not the person you have quoted half the times in this thread.

>more das nah me

Shifting from going to a local con and venting on several communities about getting banned for them identifying you completely accurately as transphobic

> "I'm a lone wolf who dun need no one".

Then stop whining on every platform you find if that's true.

>inb4 diapers are just an underwear fetish that's completely normal

>>34780

Tag, you're it :)

>>34778

>transphobic

you mean sane?

>>34782

See >>34674

> No I am transphobic

>>34783

Tag, you're it

>>34786

Tag, you're it

Cameron, feel free to suck-start a shotgun at your earliest convenience.

/SIGNED/

Jack Mehoff

Dawwww widdle Cameron's all fannyflustered that he's going to be alone forever because he can't play nice. It's okay. C'mere babbu, mommy's got a nice baba of bleach for you. It'll make all the meanymean trannies and cam whores conspiring to keep you away away from girls go right away.

what the fuck did i just walk into?

>>34803

Hi Cameron :) Tag, you're it.

Cameron, Jeffie and that #ABDLTruth cunt should all engage in a mutual circlejerk with fistfuls of razor blades, and then go swimming in a cesspool. That way, there's less of a chance they can contaminate the gene pool.

Then again, those three couldn't get laid in a whorehouse with a truckload of $100 bills and notes from their mothers.

>try to accuse others of samefagging while insulting them

>end up exposing that you're literally the same faggot who's been crying and trying to whiteknight Fetlife since years back

>>34806

>still mad about being banned TWO YEARS AGO

Hahahahaha, it's just fun how sad you must be that you couldn't let it go. Everyone had long forgotten, but you just desperately needed someone to stroke your lil winky and comfort you.

But you'll always be a kissless virgin, who has nothing but diaper fetish forums. And it'll never stop being hysterical that you just won't leave the hook. You're mine forever sweetie

>b-b-b-b-buh d-d-daaas naaaaah meeeeeee

Tag, you're it.

>das nah me

>Tag, you're it

And that's how you know it's just one single person being butthurt as fuck about certain subjects being discussed on this board. What those subjects are reveals quite a bit about them.

You can never help yourself. Two years ago. I mean, is it the highlight of your life? After two years the biggest event you've experienced is getting banned from a stupid fetlife group. You can try to das nah me, but no one else would care that much. It'd actually only be more hilariously sad.

>>34815

it reminds me of /agdg/

>>34803

It's actually kind of impressive, in a two-girls-one-cup sort of way.

Oh darling, I know you want that last comment so bad baby. It still hurts you didn't get it on that last thread we shitbombed together doesn't it? Is that why you saved it? How often had you looked at it to reassure yourself you weren't a retard? Do you cry? Or do you desperately tell yourself how smart and logical you were? I told you, we'll dance this dance forever as long as you refuse to move on.

Tag, you're it <3

>>34777

>Checked

This just in!

Cameron is still a filthy cunt.

Film at 11.

>>34917

lol and I'm the one who's still obsessed about this?

I haven't even thought of you cunts since I got drunk Monday night and got myself banned on fetlife, you're still coming to 8chan to bump this thread?

This is why I stick with vanilla relationships, I hate sharing a fetish with you mentally ill cunts. I literally haven't posted in this thread since Monday night and you've accused me of being three different people who simply didn't want to put up with your "transphobia" whining.

LOL, I'll be closing this thread forever but you guys keep pretending I'm the problem in your shitty community fetlife faggots.

Sure Cameron. We see how much you tooootally don't care. You have hot chicks left and right and haven't been crying to every community who will hear you how you were entirely and correctly identified by SJWs

The funny part, you weren't even wrong. There totally is way more males then CIS girls. Because you just couldn't let things go, you have emboldened them all. You've proven them entirely right about hating trannies, viewing women as a trophy to be obtained, and getting elites over who "true diapersfuckers" are. Any time they doubt if they're acting too rash, they'll remember the time they were entirely right about you Cameron.

Because you're exactly the type of guy girls avoid. You'll never get the key to where all the girls hang out. Have fun dying alone!

>u-u'll never get a tru girl!

It's funny because the one saying it will never be a true girl.

Speaking of fetlife, whatever happened to that guy abdreams were out after?

>>34957

Not sure, I never really heard of that.

Reading these 2 faggots go at each other has made me glad I run my little small group in VA where we have an almost equal amount of both male and female ageplayers. With some caregivers who come around and we are able to hold events with no drama. We actually don't even have any trans people either, though we do have 1-2 gender fluid people. But nobody flaunts it or gets butthurt over stupid shit.

>>34957

Who? What? Details, man.

>>34957

oh i think i know how you mean, there was a guy that kept posting pictures of his girlfriend (?) on tumblr and really emphasising how they were free and calling out ABdreams, the tumblr was deleted but i think there's a new one now

>>34959

No Cameron's allowed

>>34960

daddy-spanxx

i remember that dumbfuck. that guy has serious issues.

it wasn't his gf, just some chick he paid to model for him.

Just got my first ever package of the carousel diapers. Tried them on already, they are really soft and tape very well. I had a little trouble getting the fit right at first, but was able to re-tape them just fine. Still am not 100% happy with the fit, but the same goes for literally every diaper I have ever worn. I think I just need to lose weight to get my proportions back in line.

Anyway, didn't even realize it when I was putting them on, but about 5 minutes later realized that I had to pee, so I just laid here on my stomach in front of my computer and went in my pants. It felt great!

Time will tell if I order more of these, so far the only others I have tried are tykables and dc idyles, so im still pretty new to this.

Does anyone know of any good booru-like or pixiv-like sites which will host assorted art and edits of other people's art?

dA and pixiv seem to mainly be for original art. I suspect edits would be frowned upon and subject to removal.

Gelbooru, danbooru, sankaku, etc. strongly discourage personal artwork and are generally restricted to japanese-made or at least japanese-style art.

I found a mommy for hire, and I'm not sure whether or not to use her services. I'm pretty sure I'm taller and weigh more than her, so that limits what we could do. She also said she only changes wet diapers.

tfw you wear diapers so often that you get bored of wearing them. but you keep putting them on because you are litterally addicted to diapers.

>>36557

I got my first girlfriend into them but thats it. All the other girls I've ever had sex with were never interested in trying new stuff.

You have to find someone who is really in love with you or already kinky.

So for the first time in my life, this fetish is doing something good for me. I found a dominatrix in my area who does diaper roleplay, but I'm larger than she is. I want to get down to her size for when I meet with her, so I'm limiting myself to 1700 calories per day and drinking water instead of soda.. unless I'm eating something thst soda goes good with. Still, I've lost nearly 7 pounds this past month. If things continue at this rate, I'll be at my target by the end of the year.

>>34721

>You couldn't keep your bigoted opinion to yourself, and you experienced the backlash that bigots receive.

Wait, wait, are you saying that it's bigoted to hold the opinion that trans women are not real women? It's an unpopular opinion to be sure, and I wouldn't recommend expressing it in public, but you say that it's bigoted? How? I believe that transgender women are mentally ill men, but that doesn't mean I won't associate with them at all. I pity them and their hardships. I only become angry when they pass laws that intrude on my own liberty, as we are seeing happen in Canada.

And no, I'm not Cameron, but I probably share his views on human biology.

>>37004

can somebody give me a tldr of this cameron guy? ED link if we have one

>>37004

Let me help you out cameron.

>… it's bigoted to hold the opinion that trans women are not real women?

In this sentence try using 'Biological' instead of 'real'.Real can be interpreted in different ways leading to further arguing over a silly topic. Biological is indisputable, no surgery can change that pesky little Y chromosome. obviously if you come across an xx male or xy female thats a completely different conversation.

>>37019

Yeah, that's fair. "Biological woman" communicates the same idea.

>>37004

> that doesn't mean I won't associate with them at all.

>I hate niggers and think they should go back to africa, but I coexist with them so I'm not bigoted

Bitch pick up a dictionary.

>>37017

He got banned from one of the shitty SJW fetlife communities. Went crying around to a bunch of boards looking for sympathy. Totally and utterly embarrassed himself. Super cringe.

>>37017

It's the favorite bogeyman of this board's resident lunatic. He'll come out of the woodworks and accuse you of being him if you say something that's further right than Tumblr or if you don't flagellate yourself enough for having this fetish. Watch him devolve into screaming "t-tag your it cameron" now.

>>37019

>>37032

Trans women are biological women.

Just say what you really mean. "I'm terrified of other penises do you have one?"

>>37045

Oh, fuck off. Trans women are women, yes. The word woman on its own doesn't differentiate between cis and trans. But you're delusional if you think calling someone with an XY chromosome set anything but biologically male is correct. Stop calling people biological men or women. People are biologically male or female (or intersex, but I'm not opening that can of of worms in this conversation). Gender is in the head, on the other hand.

TL;DR: If gender, not sex, determines whether someone is a man or woman, it makes sense when referring their sex to call them biologically male or female.

>>37048

Biological sex is a lot more complex than you're making it, XX and XY are not the only options, most people deviate from that dichotomy in some way; neurology and endocrinology are biological too.

tl;dr learn some science from after the year 2000 luddite

>>37049

I believe you, I really do. But would it really be so hard for you to back up your statement with a simple example? Kinda hard to try to research what you're talking about when the terms you give are so broad and vague. And what, if anything, does the term intersex cover under that umbrella, if you'd be so kind? It's at least got to do with people who have three or more sex chromosomes, right?

>>37051

Not him, but it's fairly obvious to me that "male" and "female" are nothing more than fictional ideals. Most people deviate from them slightly. Some women have masculine jaw lines or small breasts. Some men have broader hips or speak with a higher pitched voice. Most people lie very close to one ideal and far from the other, but there's a statistical distribution spreading outwards from each. There are more extreme cases such as XXY chromosomes or genetic chimeras. Chemicals found in the environment can have all sorts of influences on hormone regulation and development.

In short, humans are far, far, far too complicated to neatly group into two well-defined categories. It's a bimodal distribution in high dimensional space with long, shallow tails.

Where do y'all chat with random abdl/cgd people?

Like other than omegle

>>37063

You could try f-list. I haven't used it myself but I've been thinking about it. That's assuming you're just looking for sexy talk though.

For actual people best bet is fetlife.

>>37040

>let's pretend I'm not Cameron, and that anyone but Cameron cares about Cameron this much.

Hi Cameron.

Long story short. Cameron freaked out for getting banned from an SJW fetlife group for hating on trannies, but was super butthurt because he believed he was super sneaky subtle about it and shouldn't have been caught. And proceeded to bitch about the injustices carried out, because despite very proudly declaring how much he hates trannies believes he's of the utmost intellectual prowess thus shouldn't have been caught. His ego however won't let things go. Like ever. He's so sad and has so little life outside of diaper forums he ran back to this threads months after this shit was long dead in anyone elses mind because he finally thought of a new point.

Just kill yourself Cameron. You'll always be alone. I'm sure the SJWs documented all your pictures so even you turning prison gay "bi", you'll forever be ostracized from any place to meet people. There's no hope for you. Just end it.

>>37056

There's also a lot of cultures outside of eurocentric ones that have gender designations outside of a binary. Thailand has the kathoey, Native Americans had a few but they tend to be all lumped together these days as "2 spirit" or some shit. There's a whole fucking mess of them.

I'm not sure why people care so much frankly. Especially so-called libertarians, who tend to be the most vocal about it. I understand christian cuckservatives being fag haters still, even burgerland doesn't generally take them seriously anymore. But the fuck are libertarians so up in arms? Leave people dress and act how they damn well please. It's not freedom of speech, you're just being an asshole so don't cry when you're treated like you're being an asshole.

If SJWs start crying you're transphobic for not wanting to date them, which I've seen some extremists say. I'll be there right beside you telling them to fuck off. But if you're so up your own butthole you're triggered by people saying "stop being a dick to the trannies" and need to defensively start preaching biology from your soap box. Just fuck off already, ya?

>>37038

I didn't say I hated anyone or wanted anyone forcibly removed from the country. In facy, if I wanted anyone removed from the country, that would literally mean I am not willing to coexist with them. Why is a disagreement tantamount to hatred?

>>37090

I don't agree with your perspective on biology, but I agree 100% with your stance on human rights.

>>37093

Once again, bitch pick up a dictionary. Ain't nothing in the definition of bigotry that involves demanding people leave the country. Those people are bigots, but thats not the definition of bigotry.

> a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

Like when you refuse that science updates with new information, and it turns out that shits a lot more complicated then neat little check boxes.

>>37089

You're literally the only one going on about him, though. Nobody else cares about your bogeyman.

>>37119

You're trying to reason with someone who has been on a non-stop autistic shitposting rampage for weeks. There is no reasoning with that level of autism. The only effective response is a swift ban.

>Calls everyone a bigot when someone doesn't want to fuck a MtF

No one really cares about your troubles finding a man.

Yes the brain can exhibit female attributes even though it resides a male body. But just because a man is deinty or a woman has man hands doesnt mean they are less of a biological male or female. There are what society deems an ideal beauty. And while not fitting societies mold of the perfect man and woman could have a psychological effect on someone it still doesnt change the fact that their body is biologically set after stage (?) In the womb and solidified after puberty.

Let me clarify, I dont believe in gender. Boys used to wear white dresses as babies. The whole reason that gender identity has become a huge issue on defining binaries is because kids are raised today to be 0 or 1. And they will mock the stuff that is an outlier, it takes more effort to prevent and most adults wont/havent. So now everyone after the 40s are raised with the binary mindset. Its fucking everywhere, in happy meals, clothing, stores. The ailes are always separated between boy and girl. Its unavoidale.

If I feel like wearing a skirt, I throw on one of my kilts. Because theres no point in me trying to correct a mistake or change my appearance for other people. I am proud to be myself and fuck alls yall.

>>37121

So, how do you define biological sex? X/Y chromosomes? The presence of male/female reproductive organs. Even those aren't as clear cut as you claim. Eg. genetic chimeras, XXY chromosomes, malformed or non-existent genitalia, etc. Hell, by fucking with hormones during embryonic development and childhood you could have a person who was physically one gender but had chromosomes from the other gender.

I'm not the least bit trans or anything, but I still find it really tedious and annoying how stubbornly people defend their "common sense" even in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence. Anyone who understands biology can see that you're desperately looking for excuses to justify conclusions you have already reached. Nobody actually gives a fuck about the shape of the chromosomes in someone's cells. If a man walked into the womens' bathroom and whipped out his dick to take a piss, nobody would say "Oh, you have XX chromosomes? My mistake. Sorry for bothering you."

>>37123

Why would any man walk into womens bathroom and just wip out a dick?

There are only stalls there.

>>37129

Because he realizes he's nothing more than a one-dimensional character in a hypothetic situation who exists solely to make a point on a chinese cartoon board dedicated to the discussion of adults shitting themselves in diapers. Faced with that kind of existential horror, would anyone really give a fuck about public decency any more? He might as well try and do the helicopter before his brief life blinks out of existence at the end of the sentence.

>>37118

New information? I've been aware of intersex people for most of my life. What's new is this idea that the existence of intersex people gives biological legitimacy to people who have overwhelmingly male features deciding they want to identify as female or a new, recently-conceived gender. It's not new information, it's a new interpretation of old information. And as edgy as it sounds, allowing people to choose yheir own race is much more sensible, as science shows that oyr concept of race has little biological reality. That's taboo, though, because not enough people ate pushing for it.

>>37132

>>37123 here. I don't actually think someone with an obviously male body or male chromosomes can claim to be female. Then again, I don't think they are any particular gender. The flesh-suit they pilot around has a gender, but their mind probably doesn't have any well-defined gender. The closest thing to a mental gender/sex would be sexuality, but we know that often doesn't correlate with physical gender.

I don't think they're ill either though. They just desire a physical reality which is currently unattainable using current-day technology. I have my own fantasies which similarly run up against the limitations of technology.

>>37123

I'm trans, and I don't even understand why people always bring this stuff up when they're talking about us. I feel like the sex stuff depends on context, like I'm female if we're talking about which bathroom I use or what it makes sense for my id to say or whatever, but not if you're discussing what biological sex is. Then I'm an especially girly gay boy who takes estrogen. I'm upset I'm not female, but I'm not retarded.

And there are a disproportionately large number of trans women into abdl stuff, probably partially because we're easy abuse-targets as kids because we're little faggots and just generally often have weird childhoods.

>>37123

>>37123

So now your counter is that sex is a gray area because of a genetic abnormality that happens in 0.1% of births? Yet somehow 3% of americans identify as transgender most of whom were born XX or XY?

>In spite of these similarities, these two groups should not be and cannot be thought of as one. The truth is that the vast majority of people with intersex conditions identify as male or female rather than transgender or transsexual. Thus, where all people who identify as transgender or transsexual experience problems with their gender identity, only a small portion of intersex people experience these problems.

From the intersex society of north america

>>37135

So now, if you are indeed the same person, you are backtracking claiming that xy cant claim to be xx and it's all just a delusion.

I honestly can't tell if you're fucking retarded or just plain stupid.

You're just trying so hard to claim that biological sex is not binary when in fact it is(barring a very rare genetic abnormality) and the amount of data to prove it is monumental. Again as I stated before brain development is different and has so far appeared to be a factor in gender identity. But will never change the fact that someone was born biologically male (XY) or female (XX).

>>37149

>I honestly can't tell if you're fucking retarded or just plain stupid.

I feel the same way about you.

Nothing I have said is the least bit controversial scientifically. You yourself admit there is no good definition for biological gender which covers 100% of cases, and I've also shown that such metrics can be contradictory. Gender can be arbitrary depending on the individual and the particular choice of metric to use. Just like how the existence of 2 disproves the statement that all prime numbers are odd, the existence of even a single hypothetical counterexample disproves the notion that gender is well defined.

You seem to be under the impression that I'm defending the shit spouted by every trans person on the planet, despite me clearly stating my position on that (which you helpfully dismissed as backtracking).

I honestly can't be bothered arguing further with you because it's really fucking tedious to try and talk to someone who takes the least generous possible interpretation of everything you say. It's like taking part in a political campaign where everyone is looking to quote you out of context to suit their own agenda. If you want to do that shit, go and do it on tumblr where you might actually be attacking the people you take issue with.

>>37119

Hi Cameron!

>>37132

xx males and xy females don't necessarily develop intersex features at all. It's quite a bit more complicated then 6th grade science class. But hey, thanks for showing the class your level.

> tfw Cameron will always be alone and no one will ever want to be around him outside of anonymous message boards

What are peoples thoughts on a new web comic? Im getting tired of Stars. Should it be furry, non furry, mixed?, What topics/kinks should it focus on? Do you care about plot or do you just want smut?

>>37179

Non furry, diapers and anything directly related, plot is nice but takes a backseat t o smut

>>37237

>he says while posting a smug anime girl meme

So was anyone ever forced into crossdressing when they were younger by an older sibling?

So I've been losing some weight lately and suffering anal leakage. I was wondering if there was anything "light" to wear anyone would recommend? I don't want to go around thickly padded.

So why does wearing diaper feel so soft, comfortable, nice and overall good feeling?

>>38531

because they are

>>38270

Do you just mean wet leakage or full on shits?

If just wet you could probably get away with some tena lady pants

>>38120

no but that sounds fun

>so so so

I'm gonna spend some time with a mommy for hire. Give me some ideas for stuff to do with her. I currently plan to color, cuddle, play in the bath, and watch Teletubbies.

>>38854

>make her rock you

>tell you bedtime stories

>pat your back while breastfeeding

>make you handfood like cookies or cupcakes

>try to feed yourself, fail, have her spoonfeed you while tied to a highchair

>sing to you soothing and sweet lullabyes

>deny you completely of sexual release, by chastity, spankings and slapping your privates

>haver her talk to you exactly as if you were a child, even as you greet her at the door

wondering if i should waste my time trying to go to capcon next year.

i got denied when i tried to register for last year because they supposedly found something they didn't like in my background. tried to find out what it was and they never got back to me.

opinions?

>>38531

because you have insane security and safety issues like the rest of us.

>>39009

have you *seen* some of the ugly mother fuckers they allow to come?

i'm not the best looking, but damn.

>>38991

Depends on what sort of things you gave them to check in on you. If they look through your profile and see you arguing all the time, hating on fags/trannies openly, or something along that line. That could do it.

>>38991

dont even bother

>>38991

What do people get out of going to events like that?

>>39021

sharing faggotry? in the hopes of finding an equally damaged partner?

>>39021

Even if you don't go looking for a hook up. Spending time with people as crazy or crazier then you is really freeing and validating. It's fun to let go completely, openly celebrate this weird obsession, and have it reinforced and praised by others.

>>38991

Do you go to any other events, local or not? I'm in New Hampshire and only have an occasional event in Connecticut or Teddycon a bit farther to the west. As far as I know, those are the bigger ones. If there was something in Boston or a retreat up northern NH/VT for total privacy, rather than it being at a nightclub, would be ideal.

What am I talking about? I'll never go to one of these events due to a jealous as fuck gf.

>>39050

>>Do you go to any other events, local or not?

no. capcon last year was going to be my first. the closest abdl munch to me is run by someone who is old enough to be my dad; no thanks.

>>39098

I am for sure since neither a onesie nor a pacifier did anything for me but I do wear adult baby diapers because those have the best quality to them. Really the only one that feels just as good as those are molicares and those fall apart too quickly which is problematic since I never use diapers just wear them

>>39098

I'm entirely a DL, "littlespace" regression and etc are completely alien and creepy/cringy to me.

Some stuff like pacifiers and cribs can be kinky if used correctly though. But thats just a substitute for ballgags/cages.

>>38899

Those are some good ideas, but limitations prevent most of that. I'm too big for her to lift or carry me, and I have to pay for any supplies she uses, including diapers. I definitely want her to read something to me, but I haven't decided on what.

>>39098

Pure DL here, what's up.

>>39098

I DL, too.

>>39098

Completely DL. i dont mind other people focusing on the AB side but i dont get anything out of it.

>>39098

>PizzaHut pics

>tumblr

Are you PizzaSlut by any chance?

>>39098

i'm pretty much only into the DL side.

there are a few things on the AB side that interest me, like wearing a onesie with a diaper, but that's about it.

>>39101

>"littlespace" regression and etc are completely alien and creepy/cringy to me.

Personally I love the idea of being a little 5 year old kid again, but I can't seem to enter "littlespace" since my own body is a constant reminder that I'm just a weird adult. I think I'd be more into the AB side of things if I was playing the role of an adult looking after a cute little.

Problem with littles acting like kids, they take the brat thing too far.

>>39173

>not a bratty little

>dont like getting in trouble or punished

>feel weird around littles that are all brat all the time or worse

I know of very few littles irl that aren't a brat. It's awkward for us too, don't worry.

>>39175

You sound like the perfect well behaved little who deserves treats and love.

>>39173

No, the problem is that they aren't physically children so they don't really have to suffer the long-term consequences of their actions. You can't ground them for a month or completely take away their computer time. At the end of the day they're still adults who get to go back to their adult lives once the scene is over. Also most kinky "punishments" are designed to be fun rather than proper punishments. They wouldn't be so eager to break the rules if they didn't have a safeword.

>>39200

>They wouldn't be so eager to break the rules if they didn't have a safeword.

I think that's the only way to have littles honestly. If they don't have safewords and know that a spanking is really going to be a proper spanking I am sure they will be well behaved in no time.

>>39195

Jealous?

>>39206

My Mommy and I don't have safewords and any punishment is just that, a punishment. I live with her so she can take away activities or ensure I write those lines or stay in timeout for however long. When I get threatened with a spanking it's a real threat that makes me think of what I've been doing and see if I need to change my ways.

I didn't know there was a bunch of brats running around who get in trouble for fun, that seems scary.

well, capcon actually approved my registration for 2018. dunno what changed.

anybody here been? have any advice/tips/tricks?

>>39217

>Then again, I'm a natural anarchist and I'd cause absolute hell for anyone who tried to impose rules on me. If physical regression technology is developed within my lifetime, my carers are in for a very !!fun!! time.

If physical regression technology is developed, you're in for a very red bottom anon.