/a/ - Animu & Mango

Speed King is Killer Queen but with heat so yeah

>>942830

Speed king is basically Uiharu powered up. Araki knows which to aru power is the strongest. Robin's wife even has a vector power.

Where's the episode?

I miss Steel Ball Run...

>>943020

I want donutman to be done with this shit already. So I can read it.

It was nice to finally have Speed King revealed, but I'm mostly just waiting on Joseph the head doctor revelation.

Wait, so Speed King is just a refrigerator?

>>942819

Other than getting Joubin to explain his Stand in detail, these chapters felt like a waste. All this build up for a minor goon to return and die.

>>943146

At least we got a two-day timeskip out of it, so we won't have to see the full 7 days of the harvest leadup.

>>942819

The final boss is the ex-boyfriend.

>>943003

>Next two episodes are airing together on July 28th

>tfw you're getting the finale for your birthday

At least someone remembered it this year

Final boss could be a fusion of Joubin and another character. Joubin's stand feels too basic on it's own to be the last boss.

>>944278

Tsurugi's evolved Paper Moon King with Jobin's Speed King are looking to be a deadly duo IMO. I like Tsurugi, and I thought Araki did a good job at making his feelings sway like an actual child, going to the person/people that tell him the things he wants to hear the most.

>>944278

It was already revealed that Joubin lied about the full extent of his Stand's powers and that not even his family knows what it can really do.

My bet is something along the lines of manipulating subatomic forces or something equally bullshit.

>>944280

We still don't know what the fuck happened with the schoolgate though, so until his new abilities are revealed, we can't really speculate on how powerful the fusion would be.

>>944292

The school gate seems to be the result of Akefu Satoru's Stand, which causes harmful and deadly accidents at a distance. Tsurugi simply stood by and watched it happen, but didn't say or do anything, perhaps because he saw Akefu's stand in action and no one normal would understand. There's also been several other "accidents" happening around Tsurugi which seems to imply that Akefu's stand is following or active on Tsurugi for reasons unknown. Could be that he's protecting the Rokaka, could be that he's waiting for his chance to take it back from Joubin.

>>944280

Was thinking he might take the fruit and fuse with Tsurugi.

>>944334

Yeah you could be right, considering Joubin was considering to do the exchange and die for Tsurugi anyway. Whatever stand that results from the two could be the final boss, but lets be real; this won't happen

>>943299

OP shitposting in his own thread?

Would Part 8 be better if Joshu was a cute girl like Daiya?

>>944563

No. Joshu is the key to all of this.

>>944581

Araki forgetting things? Impossible.

>>944581

I see her coming back, considering she is Kira's younger sister and Holly's daughter after all.

>>944563

There is a laundry list you could do to make JoJolion better, but the main one is this.

STOP GOING ALL OVER THE PLACE, ARAKI, KEEP IT IN YOUR PANTS AND FOCUS

He tried to go for a continuous overall structure like SBR, but at the same time having the character-of-the-week nature of DiU. It doesn't bloody work, and you end up with blatantly inconsistent shit like >>944581 . He's probably starting to realize this by bringing back Ojiro, but then again, he chose fucking Ojiro, the very most inconsequential asshole of the early game.

>>944563

No because Joshu is irrelevant and Araki doesn't know how to draw cute girls anymore.

>>944581

Thought she died.

>>946520

JoJolion is a disaster.

SBR was the first JoJo arc I followed, I imagine this is also true for most people here, and it was slow, and it was obvious Araki changed his mind on how the story was going to go several times throughout the years, but it wasn't done terribly, and SBR actually ended up as my favorite part. I don't think at any point during SBR I felt like dropping it, it was fun from start to end.

But JoJolion has the problems SBR, except much worse. What the fuck is wrong with Araki? What's going on? Is this a blunder or is his time doing good manga over?

What's taking so long for the subs to come out? The thing was done airing for a while now.

I still really like Jojolion. Maybe I'm just crazy.

>>946564

Diesel was also a poorly written mess with awful designs and boring storylines. It had no style or impact. Just a boring comic that tried to have a gimmick, which was just poorly stolen anyways.

>>944581

The sexual tension and tone of early Jojolion was fucking intense. Having so many women lusting after Jo2uke's monster loads made sense seeing as he was packing four balls. All that seems to have fallen to the wayside now.

>>944565

Have you apologised to Lucas yet?

>>944630

Your summary is pretty much bang on. After coming out of SBR and finally catching up on Jojolion you can see early on that he was trying to blend the two. It's a shame he didn't just commit fully to one plot or the other. Ironically the best story from part 8 has been the one totally removed from the plot. That being, Joshu and the Milano Man. That shit was classic part four and I wish Araki had committed totally to stories like that. Seeing the Higashikata family dealing with weird Stand of the week stuff with Jo2uke's plot occasionally getting involved would've been more fun than this seesaw of SBR/Stand-of-the-Week story. Although in the end I'm still enjoying it because it's still got interesting conflicts.

>>944632

Such a shame.

>>944639

She's not dead. Though she has disappeared into the background and not been relevant since the first encounter.

Is it just me or does it feel like part 5 is ending WAY too early? It feels like they could be going for another 20 episodes like part 4 after Kira changed his identity.

>>946623

>what are the chances of a part 5 adaptation?

I think your time machine has glitched out.

>>946634

That legitimately somehow slipped under my radar and I don't have any idea how since I actually check the catalog once in a while. Guess I'll see for myself, I don't remember much of part 5 compared to 4.

>>946564

Nah, I pretty much hate Part 3 and 5. 8 is fun.

How many years until part 6?

>>946710

2-3 years

>>942819

I think the head of the hospital is the final boss, they had a brief scene where they bump into shit while he's around and makes a safe getaway which I think alludes to a time control ability. Probably some convoluted king crimson bullshit all over again.

>>946751

It's gonna be space manipulation

Also Tsurugi with an evolved stand will be the true final boss.

>>946759

Tsurugi + Awakened Psycho Stand + Rokaka + 4 way fusion with Norisuke and Joubin and Akefu, and also Polnareff shows up again.

>>946826

>"Part 5" "Quality"

hahahahahahahha. DP flopped hard on the artstyle; it looks like all the facial shading was done with an extra thick sharpie (And thats just one of the many things wrong with part 5)

>>946835

The worst thing about part 5 is being part 5 aka the weakest one in the entire series.

Why the fuck is it so popular in japan?

>>946844

Weird Italians doing italian stuff, like being a gangsta or eating spaghetti instead of ramen.

>>946844

Japan buys really hard into the drug scare, and the villains in part 5 are drug pushers. Westerners read about organised criminals dealing drugs and shrug.

>>946835

Now you're just hating for the sake of hating.

go back to 4cuck.

>>946844

Are there any evidence that they love it?

>>946891

What if I told you that I haven`t visited japan in prime of parts 4-7. Saying that it was self evident is not a real evidence. Even if that is true it only says that part 5 was popular at some moment in time.

>>946915

Still waiting for Giorno to appear in the new universe.

>>946913

That was one spooky rock and one slow elevator.

>>946915

Technically it was not undoing, it was fast forwarding. With their intelligence they might have missed it completely. Otherwise he would use his "nah-uh! I win powers".

>>946915

Made in Heaven only affects the dead. when will you retards finally understand it's power.

>>946915

>It would be pretty sad if some wacky priest in Florida would undo all of Giornos work

Not to worry, a wacky mangaka in Japan did all the work for him.

>>946967

What the fuck are you on about? MiH affects the concept of time itself, and regular people are "immune" in the sense that they themselves don't accelerate. But any action they partake in that isn't their own movement will still be sped up.

>>946972

Most people think that MiH destroyed the JoJo universe when in actually just reset it and migrated all the people that were alive when the ability was activated.

i thought anon was one of those people.

>>946972

I think all of this "explanation how it works" is just an afterthought. Stand accelerates time all other effects are there for dramatic effect only. Its not like Araki toughed it out beyond "mass affects speed of time because relativity or something and gravity is involved". And it was clearly "one use only" power and it reset universe so there are absolutely no loose ends except squirrels, but it might just be a reference/joke. If anything it was a good way to get rid of all loose ends and redo things he wanted.

But on the plus side it was confirmed that Star Platinum is just super duper fast and not stopping time itself, as everyone suspected. But again, its also an afterthought.

>>946975

Yeah, but its not really clear if universe in part 7-8 is the same as the end of part 6, not to mention all the hopping in part 7. Hopping showed that there are a lot of universes. And all this "migration of souls" resulted in just "deja vu once in a while".

>>946915

>It would be pretty sad if some wacky priest in Florida would undo all of Giornos work, because said priest got a funny idea from Dio.

Even funnier if said priest had invited all of his looser brothers to a tea party, but forgot to mail him an invitation as well.

>>947003

>hating part 6 is good taste

You must be a secondary.

>>947010

It was mostly just a joke at the expense of Part 6, but I feel the Part just drags on in the middle. Fitting that Jotaro's daughter gets a part that drags on, I know.

It doesn't help that Jolyne herself is the best character of the bunch, as a good chunk of the cast is okay, but nothing too great, characterwise.

I'll say the last 5 Stand Battles are great though, shame the anime will probably give them QUALITY considering Japan's general indifference to the Part. My favourite Part already got a top tier adaptation though, so I won't care too much.

>>947018

>It doesn't help that Jolyne herself is the best character of the bunch, as a good chunk of the cast is okay, but nothing too great, characterwise.

Dunno, I liked when weather report and others turned into actual people.

>considering Japan's general indifference to the Part

Most people are indifferent towards it. It has some great stuff, but also dull and boring for the most part. Emporio screams more than Koichi, half of characters just appear and do nothing for a while, a lot of the stuff feels unnecessary. Like every fucking thing related to prison and prisoner habits. It would be a much better chapter if it was missing all the bad unnecessary parts.

Araki might be great and genius but sometimes he needs a plan and an editor. Part 6 anime adaptation would benefit the most from it. And just some random changes from the original would not hurt. I said that before but universe jumping in part 7 would be better if they jumped to universes different from the manga. It would be thematically appropriate. Hell, they can even fit live action scenes in it.

inb4 it they do it and I have to burn the studio to the ground.

>>946891

Part 3 is the most loved part in Japan, part 5 is a close second place, though.

>>947031

So you're saying Part 6 would benefit from getting the two OVAs treatment Part 3 got, yeah?

Actually, that wouldn't be half bad, would also mean there'd basically be no QUALITY moments, unless DP decides to focus on that soccer anime instead while it's being made.

Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it), Part 6 will get the full 39 episodes, probably have 2 OPs and I'm betting the alteration will be it going through every JoJo OP or something like that. Or maybe have a version of the opening bit of the first OP in colour, since all the Parts in it will have been animated.

>>947031

This is something that happens in literally every part, besides MAYBE part 2.

Going all over the place and experimenting with ideas he might not end up caring for at all, while in the middle of the published series, is practically Araki's signature.

>>947041

>>947031

Pretty sure this is why Araki cut the multiple party member setup, there's too many characters to give them a real spot-light. After he switched to P.7/P.8 all the characters feel pretty relevant because the spotlight isn't shared between more than 2 or 3 at a time.

>>946917

It's implied somewhat early in Part 7 that Diavolo escaped Requiem's hell, he's a real King somewhere during Part 7.

>>947037

Stone Ocean is gonna be nothing but QUALITY for the full series, they know it's the least popular one and they're just trying to get through to Steel Ball.

>>947494

Your picture clued me into something.

Both Kaiji Part 6 and JoJo's Part 6's anime will have high amounts of QUALITY throughout

>>947031

I think 6 is probably the most muddled part. The plot is probably the most convoluted and meandering. I think the sheer likability of Jolyne brings it together though. With a lukewarm protagonist like Giorno, it would have been a fucking disaster.

>>947480

Where the hell is that implied?

>>946912

>>946913

>>946915

Why do I get the distinct impression that Bucciarati's gang going around investigating wacky incidents with Stand users as some kind of serial crime drama would have been a lot more interesting than the plot we actually got? Because if that were an anime I'd totally watch it.

As for Araki, I'm completely sure that he doesn't actually care for the entirety of the writing process. He enjoys coming up with setups and introductions, loves compelling conclusions to story arcs, but doesn't care much for the middle portions so just stumbles through them, and absolutely LOATHES coming up with a denoument so just ass-pulls some random bullshit that immediately solves the plot so he can move onto the conclusion.

>>947527

Got anything more specific than "early on"? I don't recall this at all.

>>947543

No translation?

>>946751

The problem with that, is that Akefu is obviously a setup for Joseph Joestar. He's the right age (late 80's), offers the right cover (Head Doctor, works with his daughter Holly, has grandson Doctor Kira), and explains why Holly has been around to kick around without getting murdered by the stone men, and even goes so far as to explain her connection to the rest of the hospital - remember, she built the Rokaka chamber in the first place.

It's a reversal of Part 2, this time Joseph is working with the Stone People for the "Stone of Aja"/New Rokakaka, Urban Guerilla explicitly said they all wanted it because it'd something special for the rock men.

Tooru is the assassin stand guy obviously, he's gonna kick it in the next two issues.

Why is it that in english translation stands are not directly translated but are changed for some reason? Like "Golden experience" to "Golden wind".

>>948152

Copyright bullshit. If they use the actual names someone will sue.

>>948155

I thought about it but aren't fansubs safe from it? Or is it just that most fansubs just rip official subs?

>>948157

Most fansubs rip from CR.

It's not that hard to edit the subs if you know what has changed (Episode 24 or 25 was a special case though, since CR went in and edited the video itself, fucking cunts), and there are subgroups that exist only to provide the original unchanged names.

>>948163

Huh? So in season 5, 2 episodes are busted? I got erai-raws from nyaa but there wasn't anything else available unfortunately.

>>946520

Probably the main villain.

There's other questions you missed -

*Why does Josefumi Kujo have the Joestar mark? We think Jousuke has the mark because of Kira, but it turns out Josefumi already had it previously. I'm willing to bet Joseph is his father too.

*Why did Josefumi return naked? And why was there a bite mark over the star mark?

I think it's because the flashback didn't actually cover everything, the main villain probably met Jousuke in-between the events with the stone men and the introduction.

>>948202

Some other things

*Tooru is obviously the helper in the EMS van that tried to retrieve the New Rokakaka branch

*Holly's brain and memories got messed with, if this wasn't the work of Joseph it was probably the man in the flashback >>946520

Neither Kira or Josefumi met the man, only Jousuke post-Wall Eyes did.

>>948181

No, it's just one episode, can't remember which one though.

It's the one where Notorious BIG shows up. CR edited the video and changed the text on the wall of the plane from Notorious BIG to Notorious CHASE, meaning a raw version was needed.

Official Subs are making themselves useless at this point.

>>948241

I remember this issue being present in s4 as well so i guess even after some time shit like this isn't fixed?

>>946978

>But on the plus side it was confirmed that Star Platinum is just super duper fast and not stopping time itself, as everyone suspected.

Where is that confirmed? He still stops time during the MiH fight

>>948249

And MiH somehow made his time "stop" last less than usual, which would be impossible if time was actually stopped.

Prediction: Jojolion's final boss will be Kosaku Kawajiri

>>948551

Another thing I'd like to add, it's Kosaku Kawajiri controlling Tsurugi. Perfectly mirrors Kira and Hayato from Part 4.

>>947543

Looks like a shitty romhack of a mystery dungeon game.

>>948551

Prediction: Jojolion's final boss will be no one, Gappy will get his memories back and that's it

>>948618

Same person that took Holly's memories also took Josuke's. There's no actual reason why Josuke wouldn't come out with Josefumi's memories.

Or, I mean, Araki could say whatever the hell he likes, but he has to explain that random guy from >>946520

>>948621

I always assumed that guy was just Kira and underwent a classic ArakI Redesign™ much like the infamous gender-flipping Annasui.

>>948618

You know, that's not as crazy as it sounds.

If Araki is planning to retire after part 8, I can imagine him ending with multiple factions battling it out rather than a single big bad. Part 8 is already the longest part.

Though I think he'll continue until part 9.