/a/ - Animu & Mango

>>932741

Imagine being in Saitama's place, being stuck in the middle of a sister's quarrel, and all you want to do is go home and hopefully King will be there to play games with you. I don't know how Saitama does it. I don't think I'd handle it.

>>932746

Saitama is a strong man of strong will. I feel for him.

Man, after the shitshow that ensued following the released of S2's teaser, I let this thing just drop off my radar. Level with me /a/utismos, should I bother trying to plow through this? Is the seeming gigantic animation drop seen in the teaser prevalent throughout the whole season, or is the entertainment value worth it enough to get through the episodes?

>>932859

Just read the manga again.

>>932859

>Is the seeming gigantic animation drop seen in the teaser prevalent throughout the whole season

Yes. It's pretty shit in all aspects compared to S1, but alright if you like the context/characters and just want to see what happens next. If you're not very tempted then I'd recommend waiting until it's done and then watching it all at once.

>>932859

The pacing leaves something to be desired, but I've been enjoying the last few episodes more than the beginning. It's fun.

>>932969

More like a meido thought so. The nerd should be bullied.

>>932962

Meido being an aho baka.

So I jumped into it. Stupid and gay personal impressions after blowing through 9 episodes in one go:

1) I didn't hate the animation as much as I thought I was gonna. Compared to S1, yeah, it's an abortion. Compared to standard seasonal garbage, it's mediocre/below average most of the time, with some actually competent sakuga once in a while (a while being less than once an episode on average). I thought it was going to be worse than it was, but holy shit if the moments of actually decent quality aren't spastically interspersed through the show. Some episodes are horrendous, and some episodes have scenes that look like they came straight from S1. Guess they had to ration out the talent or something.

2) The fucking half-frame shots are so goddamn grating. That's the worst part of the animation if you're not looking out for all the "look at how minimal they kept motion in these scenes" moments. Half the action scenes involve frames that include two 50% opacity images of an object in motion in two different locations. Normally this is the kind of shit you see when a youtuber is retarded at encoding at a native framerate and the video editor software needs to hack shit together to make it work, but in this show it's a fucking feature of the animation. This never happened in S1, and the first time I saw it I thought it was an issue with the video upload itself.

3) The two things that stood out to me the most: the color grading and the pacing. The color grading is "what the fuck" tier, especially on metals (looks like airbrushed deviantart fan images), sometimes even on low-detail/low-complexity objects. The pacing is breakneck whiplash "what the christ is going on" speed; first few eps were alright and then when the tournament starts, someone just stepped on the gas.

Conclusion so far: this actually would have been a pretty respectable adaptation even WITH the drop in animation quality, had they only slowed down the pace and focused on the pacing, plot, tone, and development. After all, the source material isn't about looking good whatsoever, it's all about the story and how it's told. They could have done super well with this had they not murdered the vehicles with which you use to tell a story coherently in an engaging way.

>>933084

>After all, the source material isn't about looking good whatsoever, it's all about the story and how it's told.

The source source material is, but that's not the source material of the anime.

>>933575

>Thunderous Thunder

>Crazy Mad

>Chaotic Chaos

>Ballistic Bullet

>Darkness Dark

>Destructive Destroy

>Brute Force Force

>Murderous Slaughter

>Illusory Phantom

>Melodious Melody

>Colorful color

>Instant Moment

>Vibrating Vibe

>Frozen Freeze

>Screaming Scream

>Heavenly Sky

>Crimson Rainbow

>Balanced Balance

>Muscular Muscle

Webcomic is once again the best in humour.

>>933579

>Crimson Rainbow

What? That doesn't sound right.

>actually trying to choreograph the fights

>art is more detailed and accurate

>decent animation

I'm not just imagining it am I?

>>933582

chromatic rainbow would have been better.

>>933579

Brute force force is the best.

>>933582

>>933962

It could just be the rapid translation but this webcomic only makes sense because of the manga, once again faggots who complain about Murata are now ultra retarded.

>>933961

Did you just forget about darkshine?

>>933978

>Did you just forget about darkshine?

Was too focused on the later half I guess.

>>934053

>it's super sporadic

Every modern anime is like that, and a lot of older ones were too. Back in the day it was because there were different art directors or animation teams working on different episodes. Now, I don't know what their excuse is, but animation and QUALITY is always see-sawing all over the place in almost anything you pick up.

I can't believe how good of an anti-villain Garou is. It's almost as if he's playing the straight man in a world where literally everyone else is a parody character. One could almost make the case that he's somehow accidentally fallen out of a completely different manga into this one.

>another boring ass murata chapter

At least we got a ONE update as well

They almost tried this week.

>>934218

You're not wrong in your comparison for Sonice the Edgehog but there's too much contrast in my view. Sonic is far more self absorbed and selfish than Guts. Guts is a guy you admire for his perseverance through utterly horrendous shit and his dedication to do what others cannot, to seek vengeance and justice, cost to himself be damned el oh el. Sonic, though, is just some twat who has a hardon for Cueball-sama because Sanik is just so used to beating everyone easily all the time. He has this very narrow, mindless tunnel vision focus on taking Saitama out, just because he couldn't unjustly slaughter him one time (based on his own erroneously shitty reasoning, no less).

>>933575

Might just be my imagination but his art is getting better. It's still really fucking bad though.

>>934136

Seems like Garou certainly grew on /a/ more than any character recently. His initial introduction was met with a lot more criticism in the ONE comics.

>>932751

Why can't doujins be more wholesome?

>>934252

I honestly haven't read the manga since Garou was introduced like six years ago or whatever, and when I saw that little portion I was gobsmacked at how much better it's gotten. Just look at how well he draws hands now, and any artist worth his salt knows how hard hands are. It's completely obvious that it's become a situation where a decent artist is only pretending to draw badly. It's less "this is drawn badly" and more "this is stylized to resemble something drawn badly". Reminds me of every once in a while where an anime OP/ED will radically change the artstyle to resemble something crude, like children's drawings or graffiti, but the level of competency in the artwork is still obvious.

We are nearing the end and it hasn't improved that much. I think episode 3 and 9 were the worse episodes of this season. The shiny metal looks embossed and darker than it should be and ends up just muddy. Music is generic and yet at a low pitch that you don't get the emotional resonance it wants to convey. They still don't got the idea of how speed works so we get a lot of blurry fisticuffs. Attacks don't connect so you don't feel the weight of the impact.

They actually used a 3D model for the Monster King which makes me question why they used a still image previous to this episode. I guess they didn't think they'd get to a 3rd season where the monster king will be in full action so they needed only the head and mouth for now.

>about to faint from damage and bleeding and poison, body shaking, vision blurry

>next episode starts

>continues to fight anyway

>beats everyone

>Genos appears

>fights with him for a while as well, without even getting hit much

>Bang appears

>episode ends as he starts his 3rd fight

We've gone full shonen, damage is irrelevant as long as you don't die.

>>936145

It was like this in the manga as well, and is infact a major plot point.

>>936145

To me what was worse was the continuity of the fight. Visually it made no fucking sense and was all over the place, like who story boarded this? Isn't there a primary source to borrow from, why would a fight scene be so goddamn disjointed?

>Garo starts running away into the forest with trackfag behind him, traveling in a straight line

>Garo yells a challenge to Stinger, but he and the other two dudes are behind him in a clearing standing still, where Garo's running from...or are they? Visual indication of their positioning is utter trash

>Stinger says he'll handle things, the other two next to him say nah m8, all three still just sit there while trackfag tails Garo, who is somehow running away from the clearing but also at it?

>Garo jabs hands into ground, yanks up long roots like cables, and somehow, some way, this assists in making him kick hammerfag in the face from who knows how far away (literally, we have no idea how close or far Garo was from him, or which way he came from or was pointing, etc). It was just a hard cut from yanking roots to kicking him in the face, no rhyme, reason or explanation

Were the roots a diversion? Did it help him cross distance? Did they do any damage? How the fuck did Garo know they were there? How did he know they extended all the way to his enemies?

>After kicking hammerfag in the face Garo comments that this somehow makes Stinger stupid, which has no logical connection to his attack on hammerfag. They're trying to make it seem as though Stinger's insistence on a 1v1 allowed Garo the opportunity to take out another opponent, but that just doesn't make any fucking logical sense with what they've shown us.

>Garo then starts running in what I can only assume is a ring around gunfag, "dodging" his bullets because the retard with the chaingun doesn't know how to lead shots (not that he should need to, of course)

>Trackfag runs from Garo, who catches up and starts punching, and then we hear the absolute ear-rape that is the complete failure of the audio engineer to fucking master his goddamn sound effects and we get staticy interference of multiple blown out effects layered over each other, yet again

I don't even know where to goddamn begin with this. Who the shit watched this fight sequence play back and thought "yeah this is good, let's push it into post?" Were they drunk? Did the Jesus Christ Staff studio take a day off and contract out to a C-team? If you imagine a fight scene in your head, your imagination can picture what people are doing where at what time, I don't get how the continuity was this sloppy.

This episode takes itself way to fucking seriously.

>>936163

>It was like this in the manga as well

Even flashbacks? Were any of them (including previous episodes) in manga? It would mean flashback every 3 pages. Or was it the joke in manga but it translated poorly into anime?

>>936170

>shounen fight does not make sense

Calm your autism.

One Punch Man videogame.

>>936219

>>936218

The best way to make this game would be to play it as straight as possible with input from ONE on power levels. Make Saitama literally unbeatable, Mumen Rider useless and King some kind of weird intimidation build.

Then make it all about tons of alternate storylines, surviving against AI set amount of time or very specific victory conditions where you can eke out an technical victory with Mumen Rider againt Boros. Slap on local multiplayer for fun, as long as there is no attempt at tournament balance.

Mainly because I want alternate storyline of what if Saitama didn't exist.

>>936215

Death Shower scene is pure forced drama.

>>936145

This is a series that has a guy who can punch with up to infinite force and is also completely indestructible. Garou just getting stronger the more he's damaged is not remotely the biggest stretch.

Also, Genos doesn't count. He has no purpose but to lose fights.

know what the last 2 episodes have been significantly less shit we might get good by the end of the season

>>936380

Doubt it. I just pray Mad House decides to make a Season 3 so I can forget this season.

Episode 11 was one of the few good episodes since they actually put animation into it. I guess they put all their budget into this garo fight and some against the fight against Demon Cyborg. Some of the music felt generic and sfx felt stock. There was still that reflective metal I complained about but now I have a comparison since they showed a reflective metal that didn't look shit. Geno's arm for some scenes has metal that doesn't look overly shaded, mostly in mid shots where his whole arm is visible. The terrible shading and plastic wrap look of the metal is best exemplified by the one where garo dismembers Demon Cyborgs arm. There is clearly a conflict of design since such shading is overdone but it shouldn't even exist in a fight during the day. There was also bad reflective metal shading for death gatling's gun as well.

Other than that, this was actually a good episode for once. I kind of wished they put more effort in the other episodes but I guess it's too late to change that, unless they take the complaints from their audience to heart and correct it for BD.

>>936223

Honestly I just like to think that he somehow stole Metal Bat's technique.

>>936223

I don't give two shits. Saitiama is a gag character. Garous isn't.

Garou is BOOOORRING. His ideology is shit, his motivation is shit, his fights are shit and his growing power is shit. They pile up far too much shit and it's not even remotely as bad as it's going to get.

Every bone broken, 5000 liters of blood lost, poisoned, fever, beatn up a dozen times in a single day, no rest - nope, no issue!

>>936436

The entire world is covered head to toe in bullshit. A galactic emperor just tried to take over Earth with a star destroyer equivalent and failed.

>>936436

Well there was also that guy who got really strong by eating nothing but crabs. He became a crab man but the point stands.

>>936436

>Saitama is a gag character

EVERY character in this anime is a gag character anon, it's a series that sets out to defy tropes involved in children's superhero shows. Are you really that surprised when a stick-figure fight brought into 3D doesn't make narrative sense? Garou's story was never about beating people up.

>>936218

>another shitty anime fighter

Exactly what I expected if we ever saw a OPM game, but it's still disappointing.

>>936440

Yes, and he was clearly played a joke. How things are presented makes a lot of difference.

You can have jokes in a serious setting and serious stuff in joke settings - it can and has been done before.

>>936558

Garous is played straight.

And he is boring.

I never understood what people see in him or his arc.

>>936625

He's hotblooded, that's a plus. Also the fact that despite all the shit he has done and how dangerous he is, he got swatted like a bitch by Saitama. He's a Genos in that he's the straight man to the weirdness around him. One scene we got Garou proclaiming he'll use hotblooded power and the other we got gigga nigga big-lips.

>>936625

The redraw Garou is pretty boring and his arc is a horrible arc. Webcomic garou is still a top tier arc and top tier character.

>>936218

A OPM game should be like Shenmue. 90% busy-work, tedious every day life tasks like shopping, and having to put up with shit from annoying characters, and then every once in a while you get to throw a punch.

Half Shenmue. Half No More Heroes. There's your One Punch Man game.

>>936729

Endless encounters with an ugly kid completely butchered his character.

>>936739

>Yakuza but with monsters and superheroes

There.

>>936729

I read the webcomic, original one, before I watched the animu.

Garou is shit in there too.

>>936739

I remember one thread on /v/ where someone had the idea of a One Punch Man video game casting you as a c-class hero like Mumen Rider, tasked with evacuating civilians, keeping damage to a minimum, and holding out against monsters until Saitama shows up.

>>937383

Nice to see they still butchering this arc by focusing on irrelevant stuff.

>>937444

>1:1 with the webcomic.

>This is dumb! This is irrelevant because it is!

>>937448

>1:1 with the webcomic.

Alright, show me where CE's talking with A/B class on the surface in the webcomic.

S2 was a mess, way too much time spent on building up things that didn't even go anywhere, and to top it off, they end it like this, with the last episode concluding absolutely nothing.

>>937497

I figured it was going to be two cour for the length of the monster association arc, but I guess they only got one. I suppose it's at least better than stuffing the entire arc into 12 episodes?

>>937501

They could've cut so many things down, I don't think stuffing it into 12 would've been worse.

>>937477

Just have the UI actually say "HP" next to the health bars for regular characters and change it to motivation for Saitama. When he loses, he just lies on the floor and picks his nose.

>another japanese life is shitty flashback

I am getting tired of these.

>reeeeeeeeeee

But as far as shounen stuff goes it was pretty good. Except low-res close-up moments and varied framerate on animation. They really pushing for "bluray will fix it" angle.

It just generic shounen at this point, except with LESS humor. It started with "I dont give a fuck, just shorten your backstory to 14 words" And now we have 4-5 flashbacks, where one would be more than enough.

Overall it was okay but if I wasn't reading manga I dont think I would watch it (this season) otherwise.

>>937501

They could have just cut the entire tournament filler arc and gone straight to garou, but of course that can't happen since this is just a blatant cash-in to get Murata fanboys to buy BDs and merch

>manga rendition finally getting to the interesting part

>fills half the pages with a filler conversation

>>936220

>Make Saitama literally unbeatable, Mumen Rider useless and King some kind of weird intimidation build.

I think you meant make Saitama some kind of wierd intimidation build, King useless and Rider unbeatable

I found this little guy today. It was entertaining.

>there's the episode

>click play

>immediately greeted by SKGHSHDLGJSHGDFHGAKVCCUEYRBCAVKSGHF

These fucking sound effects, goddamn.

And this is the final episode? This shit felt so underwhelming. I don't know if I'd call it full-on bad, it was competent enough I suppose, but there was something just missing from the season as a whole, and especially this episode. It didn't feel like anything carried any weight or was interesting, like they were going through the motions. A summation of my impression of this episode is something along the lines of "just some stuff that happened." That's about it.

At this point I pray they don't make a season 3. Just lay it to rest, don't rape its corpse.

>>937613

>A bit disappointed

That's pretty much the only fucking thing that differentiates it from any other punch

So Garo was a pathetic little baby who pretended he was beating up his bullies whenever he fought superheros?

>>938048

>It didn't feel like anything carried any weight or was interesting

that is what a bad show achieves.

>>937610

Daily reminder that Garou did nothing wrong.

>>937477

Ya that helps but

-The super quick animations in the fights to save budget, also so much smoke to cover everything

-The odd proportions everyone has here and there (king has a longer face here, they cant draw serious saitama correctly, equally garou and sonic look weird... genos, all of him)

-The lack of voice quality in saitamas dialogs

Its not good, i have only watched "the interesting moments", and they suck

>>937561

This ark is way too long, "one" should give himself 1 year to learn how to draw and crush the manga, even if he has less quality in his drawing it should be a better work overall

>>937605

Ironically a better adaptation than the actual anime

I would like to see Tatsumaki or Fubuki have romantic development because they are both hot and tsundere as a hell but the thought of Saitama involved with anyone stops my brain/

>>938105

"Yes"