/a/ - Animu & Mango

>>926365

>geology

You meant gemmology?

I don't know who's worst, anime-only faggots, /animu/, /u/, cuckchan or reddit.

You're probably in one or more of those categories.

>>926370

I never realized that was a word. You learn new things every day.

>>926386

Wouldn't Antarc melt in the sun and then refreeze in the shade repeatedly in space? Wouldn't collecting a fluid like that be... Uh... a lot easier to collect than microparticles? How much original material do you need to animate artificial gems?

>>926370

>gemmology

You meant mineralogy. Gemmology isn't meaningfully separate from mineralogy and is a sub-field at best and a title for hacks that want to feel special at worst. Judging for your faggy tone, you probably belong to the latter category.

>>926390

And the weathering thing sounds like bullshit in general. In a place with no wind, and in the past hundred years the only time the dust was unsettled was when morganite and goshenite were scattered. The kind of weathering he was suggesting is present on Earth, but on the moon, there isn't much that makes particles abrase against each other. IRL moon dust clumps together easily even when bone dry because the sediments are jagged and unweathered.

I am gay. Gay for gem butt.

So this is Japanese Steven universe?

>>926411

No.

>>926415

Did Phos ever have any friends aside from Antarc? Sensei is a soulless robot, Dia was nice but it was just empty pleasantries, everyone else was always annoyed by Phos and only even began to recognize her as anything other than annoyance once she got the gold arms, and then she was just "a strong fighter" to everyone, Cinnabar is desperate for any connections at all, but even that was hollow. Antarc alone valued Phos as a person.

Would also like to add that Dia is a bitch who hides hatred under a smile. She is just using the moon and Phos as an escape from Bort. She also uses her own shortcomings as an excuse to hate Bort. She didn't even let Bort know she was leaving, she just left Bort to guess as to what happened. Of course Bort couldn't fathom that Dia left just to hurt him and assumes Phos tricked her. Diamonds is the type of girl who would be wonderful and you'd think everything was great and then she suddenly cucks you out of nowhere. She wouldn't do it because she wanted to be a slut, she'd do it just to hurt you.

>>926421

>responding to bait

Man, a shame the anime has that godawful CG. I wanted to watch it.

>>926451

>godawful cgi

This is literally the only show with good cgi.

>>926453

Not the only.

https://youtu.be/cCCaR_rEAgE

https://youtu.be/n-ewk2nAT7Y

>>926451

Are you fucking insane?

where the fuck are my diamond webms? I can't find them

>>926458

Hugtto's first ED was shit, second slightly less shit. The five seasons before all had better 3d for EDs. And openings and endings don't count for how good a show looks anyway.

>>926462

Never

>>926462

I am gay. Gay for gem butt.

==IT NEVER STOPS==.

>>926462

>>926462

Professor should be:

>Adamant's ex.

>Never does anything, creepy as fuck.

Something I've been wondering about for a long time, if a gem looses a part of their body, like a extremely small shard,will their body regenerate and replace the missing part?

>>926475

No, but they can repair with other things, like other gem bits. There's a rejection potential like getting an organ transplant unless their Phos

>>926475

...I mean, it's very possible that some small part of the gems got lost after sensei shouted at them.

>>926475

No, they usually use bits from their hair. Which is the place where there is less inclusions, therefore less memory bank storage, to replace bits of broken parts.

Which is why Phos's hair got so short during winter, the gold and platinum kept ripping her apart so she used bits of her hair.

>>926476

Was the fact that Phos has good transplant acceptance part of her being absorbed by the admirabillis (which also made her able to talk to them which is why I lean more on this idea) or is it due to her type of mineral?

>>926479

It hasn't really been addressed specifically. So far it might as well be plot magic

I've finally started watching this.

I kept hearing about how well the CG was done, and the first episode has lived up to it. There are a few cases of the stuttery look typical of CG anime, but they're the exception rather than the rule, and it's clear a lot of effort went into it. What's more, it seems like the show takes advantage of the compositional benefits of the medium for once. It has pans, sweeps, and rotations of the camera, and small secondary motions of the characters, that are usually impractical for drawn animation. The show uses CG, instead of resorting to it.

The male pronouns in the subs feel strange though. Hearing them talk about "he" this, "him" that, it's sometimes hard to associate what they're saying to the character they're talking about.

>>926544

From what I understand, there's a lot of pronoun games throughout the series, with the characters using a bizarre range of feminine and masculine language to build an alien feel to them. I think (I don't speak nip and am speaking 3rd hand) that the subs simplified it by just making everyone use male terms to refer to blatantly female gems.

>>926549

From what I remember the only noteworthy thing is that they use 彼 to refer to each other, which is typically a male pronoun. It is the Japanese equivalent to "him" but used far less commonly in Japanese simply because of how the language works, and it's also the de facto gender neutral third person pronoun for cases where you are talking about things that either don't have sexes or it's unclear what their sex is, like aliens or monsters or whatever, so it becomes more like a "they". If you really have to use either 彼 or 彼女 and you don't know which, and these cases are rare in native Japanese, you'd probably go with 彼.

It's been a while since I've watched the anime though so there might have been other stuff I missed, but I think the gist is that they are just animated rocks who are smooth around the bend. I think the anime makes them look pretty feminine but in the manga they do look a lot more deliberately androgynous.

>>926557

I don't think gems can get erect.

>>926566

But they keep comparing how hard they are.

Will I like this if I used to like Steven Universe?

>>926386

>I hope Antarticite survived somehow because she's a good girl

Don't read the manga

>>926680

NEVER!

>>926544

Now 2/3 of the way through. This retroactively jumps to second place that season, still behind SSR but well ahead of its competition for the runner-up spot. I'm annoyed I missed this gem.

Antarc is was best gem. Which is why I knew not to get attached to her, a decision which was proven right ten minutes after I made it.

Instead of creating more animated flawless gems, Orange is making a furry anime.

At least this one is more kemono-ish side and the story seems interesting.

>>926885

If only certain someones weren't filthy sinners.

>>926900

I hate Moonman but so far he might the only proof we have that gems can be fucked.

Why can't the gems pray?

>>926962

Because they're not machines? Only adamant is.

>>926965

I don't know much about Buddhism. But I was under the impression that it was a godless religion. Focused more about achieving enlightenment rather than worshipping a god or goddess. What exactly is prayer in this sense at all? What divine power is being petitioned? What about Adamant makes his prayers valid? Since he's a human creation, he's 0% human, but the gems are the devolved offspring of humans, so wouldn't they be closer to humanity than Adamant? A full human obviously is capable of praying, but the demi-human status of gems invalidates their prayers? But Adamant who isn't human at all somehow is capable? I'm starting to suspect another despair twist coming on where they activate Adamant but realize that he was never actually capable of praying. Then you have Phos who's apparently adding on important sacred Buddhist gifts onto her body and becoming more and more human as she gets more? Can someone translate this nip religion into something my Christian ass can understand?

>>926977

Prayer, as it's known in the series is not a supernatural power. Rather, it's an artificially created function sensei has. I remenber it being mentioned that a lot of the words in the series has lost their original meaning, like how Kongo is called sensei, and the place the gems live is called a school, even though they aren't really these things.

>>926988

That doesn't make any sense, though. The Moonies straight up said that they were lost souls of sinners who didn't have anyone to pray for them and couldn't pass on. Therefore they're flat out talking about prayer in the explicitly religious sense. The Moonies do remember the old world and understand the meaning of old words.

>>927023

Does that mean Phos can pray? If she gets human enough?

Anyone know what the official translation is like? I know the back blurb compares it to fucking Steven Universe, and the whole androgyny thing seems like a recipe for disaster in an official TL, but I just reached chapter 42, when the translator changed and the quality dropped like a rock. Should I judge the book by its cover, or am I better off grabbing it from Madokami than reading the fan translation?

>>927025

I was thinking the same thing, actually. What makes a "human?" How "human" does one need to successfully pray? Even if Phos becomes "human" enough to pray would that be enough to send off all the moon men? Can Phos teach the other gems how to be more human and help pray the Lunarians away?

>>927032

I called this shit from the start, Phos is getting more and more human because:

1. She's already been through a Admirabilis and can now speak to them

2. After Moonman *inseminated her eyeball, thus giving her a piece of "soul" *

>>927065

>fucked up spoiler

Well shit.

Seven Treasures of Buddhism

Gold - Arms

Silver - Missing

Lapis Lazuli - Head

Seashell - Legs

Agate - Legs

Pearl - Eye

Carnelian - Missing

>>927084

Oh shit, fill us in son. Don't just stop there.

>>927086

Everything Phos has added to her body has been one of the 7 Buddhist treasures. That's the full list. She's missing silver, which seemed a bit strange since her arms are a gold/platinum alloy. I'm not sure if platinum is supposed to be an approximation to silver or if it's just there for some other reason. The only other thing she's missing is Carnelian. She also seems to be getting more and more "human" as more treasures are added to her body. Antarc for example is as dead as physically possible for a gem and is gone forever. Phos is the only one who really knew Antarc, no one else really gave a shit (besides Adamant) Every gem has the hope that their friends can be restored, except for Phos. Phos has a complete understanding and experience of the grief of the death of a loved one, which is something a gem isn't supposed to be able to comprehend. Everything points to Phos becoming human.

>>927084

http://archive.fo/OWI3G

>

The Seven Treasures of the Buddhism were: Gold, silver, pearls, lapis-lazuli, rock crystal and most probably coral from the Mediterranean. The seventh could have been amber, diamond, agate, cornelian or ammonite

>diamob

Now you what's gonna happen to diamond.

>>927088

After looking it up a bit more, it seems that the list changes between holy texts. Ichikawa could be following any one.

I hope she doesn't go full "Houseki no Kuni: Diamond is Breakable"

>>927087

Hold the fuck up. Padparadscha also has 7 holes in her body.

>>927092

Is Padparadscha a sore spot for Rutile because she cares about him? Or because he's a reminder that she's a failure as a doctor?

>>927084

Silver? Quicksilver? Which is the common name for Mercury? You know, Cinnabar?

There are no happy times ahead.

>>927101

>Cinnabar is softer than the Moonies cutoff point

>She's in the middle of the suffering zone

>>927120

You shouldn't keep broken pottery at home. It brings misfortune.

>>927121

I don't like this post. It's ominous aura mocks me.

>>927143

Happy birthday, faggot.

>>927143

Be careful you can't doesn't get depressed, birthdayboy.

>>927143

So when are you going to install the prosthetics? Happy birthday

Do Buddhists worship a god? I thought they saw everything as an illusion and focused more about enlightenment. What divine power are they praying to?

>>927233

Buddhism has too many traditions, local variations and sects to answer that question. For example, it actually disappeared from India after moslem conquerors destroyed one too many community of monks, and it had been only reintroduced relatively recently, so current Buddhism in its own homeland has nothing to do with original Buddhism. Then you have totally different Buddhist traditions in Southeast Asia than in the rest of Asia. There you have Theravada with its own cannon in the Pali language, and the rest have Mahayana with its writings in Sanskrit. As for the local traditions, a good example is how Tibetan Buddhism is very esoteric, because it's full of their original shamanism, and the country is (was) headed by a theocracy. Even in Japan you usually have a shrine for the local kami in every Buddhist monastery. And you have to go down one more level for the sects, because even in Japan you have at least three completely different Buddhist sects with their conflicting views and traditions.

But to be very general, no, they don't think that the world is not real, but they do believe in higher powers. Even the Pali Cannon, the most orthodox of all texts has Buddha going on about different worlds full of gods and spirits and demons. Ours is also supposed to have at least some of the later, and not as some kind of a metaphor. Most sects only pray to various Buddhas and enlightened monks who might help you by acting from an other world, but again, it depends on the very specific variety of Buddhism.

>>927235

Is Shinto significantly different from the generalization? I assume Shinto Buddhism would be more applicable to Houseki.

>>927237

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinbutsu-sh%C5%ABg%C5%8D

>>927143

>That birthday date

>A cat from brother

Uh... A-Are you my daughter?

I planned on calling it "Cat" anyway so I wasn't really paying attention to the name

>>927242

Brother =/= dad.

He's always been a compulsive fuck. Problem is he bought it when I left the country on holiday and won't be back until next week. I'll grab a pic then.

>>927329

Also confirmed on my end. The cat's name was Luna. Had me worried for a bit, there.

>>927341

>Luna

Still fitting for the thread.

So when's the healing? It can't get any worse, right?

>>927464

When Editor-kun will say so.

>>927511

>Giving Phos the encyclopedia job was a plot to get her to recruit Cinnabar Everyone else has important jobs so asking for help from Cinnabar was a no brainer and kill two birds with one stone. Phos getting a job, and Cinnabar isn't lonely

>Phos was too stupid and fucked everything up

>>927529

There's no hope at this point. Phos is doomed to have so many rumors passed around her at this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if she gets associated as some world ending evil sealed away in pieces in the island. Cinnabar picked her side, she resents Phos for forgetting her, and now is "respected" among the other earth gems, she's so desperate she'll do anything to keep her new position of "respect". It's over. There's no longer any way for a happy ending.

Why would there be a restriction that only humans can properly interface with Kongou?

Why would you make a machine designed to pray for lost souls who had nobody else to pray for them, yet design it so it could only be turned on by someone who could pray for them anyway? What were the humans who created him trying to lock out?

Are the souls currently on the Moon the ones he's meant to pray for in the first place?

>>927464

There is still infinite capacity for suffering. Keep in mind that what happens to the souls after Kongou successfully prays for them is unclear. They "assume" they will turn to blissful nothingness. They don't know for certain what their fate will be.

>>927775

Are you implying that they'll die and the only reason Kongo doesn't want to pray is because he doesn't want them to fade and was always ready to sacrifice earth gems to keep them safe?

>The artist claimed that the upper body of a gems are based on the male form, whole the lower body is based on the female form

Vagina confirmed?

Is it worth it to genocide the sea slugs?

>>928296

Aren't they a shard or part of former humanity? So probably no.

>>926462

I think the entry for Cairngorm needs a slight update.

>>928296

Since they can apparently be raised in an environment where they won't grow shells with the gem dust, it seems unnecessary. Phos slept for Admirabilis lifespans; the gems and Lunarians can afford to wait for the gem-shelled ones to die naturally. Besides, getting rid of one of the three branches of humanity sounds like a really bad idea.

As predicted, Studio Orange is looking to take another underappreciated Seinen manga and adapt it! How exciting!

I wonder which one they ch-

>Beastars

God DAMN IT. They could choose way worse and it certainly has the accolades, but did it have to be kemono? Looks like the staff is gaining more experience with their hardware and Houseki's success has given them a budget over 0$, so that's promising.

>>929463

>Phos goes alone to beg for mercy

>Is massacred

>None of the moon gems give a single fuck

>They guilt tripped Phos about assuming dusted gems are dead and not asking to restore them, but they halt the restoration project and don't give a fuck anymore if their friends never come back

>The earth gems literally forget that Phos ever existed

>not once in 220 years did the moon gems ever consider visiting earth to try to parley for Phos back. They literally would rather fuck around on the moon than bother to try to save Phos

Phos deserves an actual friend.

>>929478

It's clear that Phos is by far the most human character.

>>929478

>Phos deserves an actual friend.

She had one, once.

>>929491

They aren't friends. They aren't even close to being friends. They might have become friends, but that opportunity is long gone. Phos forgot her promise, and Cinnabar resents her for it. Phos went her own way with pursuing Antarc, and Cinnabar found a place among the earth gems.

Cinnabar literally suggested cutting her up into little bits and hiding them, then they all forgot about her. If Adamant didn't step in, she'd be as good as dead, and unlike the moon (I still call bullshit on the moon being a poor environment to maintain a gem) the island is actually a poor environment for a mineral, because weathering actually happens a lot on earth, especially an island so small it's almost all coast. Without intervention from Adamant, she'd be as dead as Antarc. This is not something a friend suggests.

>>929491

It's painful irony that Cinnabar really did find a place among the other gems due to Phos. It was her resentment toward Phos, and her prominent role in opposing her, that achieved half of what Phos promised in the first place. But only half; Phos also promised it would be fun.

>Adamant cares so much about the gems, guys

>Lunarians are desperate to get him to pray, but he can't for some reason

>Can't help, so he does nothing and ignores their begging

>Lets them assume he won't rather than can't

>Ignores them as their advances become more and more desperate and extreme

>They start kidnapping the gems he cares about so much just to parade their corpses in front of him

>He just allows this to continue for hundreds of years

>Lets the gems fight a pointless battle for him that they're doomed to lose since the lunarians can't be killed

>Over the years gems are slowly picked off

>Still does nothing until Phos does what he should have done centuries ago

Just going to parley with the lunarians at any point would have resolved this conflict, wouldn't solve the "He can't do it" problem, but the captured gems wouldn't be dust right now.

>>926426

don't forget about Padpa. Padpa actually cares.

>>927023

holy shit I just realized now anon

Phos had parts of the flesh through when he was absorbed (and the legs too)

has parts of the soul through his left eye

and has the bone, obviously.

this is why phos passes the check!!! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

>>930897

>>929901

But who will for Phos soul now that she's "human"?

>>930934

Who will pray for Phos' sould? I what I meant to ask.

>>930938

Inb4 phos detroit becomes human, dies, then suffers for an eternity as the last moonman, having died for the other moonmen's sins.

Alright! Now that things are officially at rock bottom and as bad as it could possibly be, it's all healing from here on out!

Right...?

>>933631

> rock bottom

Rock bottoms have always been the charm of the series.

Where was this months release?

>>937661

It's on break the month so the author can prepare the next volume release.

>>937696

If you're really feeling the itch, go to your nearest natural history museum and spend some time wandering around their geology section.

I was in Vienna's NHM last week and I saw their gem and mineral collection. Almost everyone was there; Rutile, Zircon, Alexandrite, Cinnabar, an absolutely colossal sample of Amethyst, and so on. But while there was plenty of lapis lazuli, gold and platinum, agate (in the form of a phenomenal bowl in the treasury across the street), and everything else Phos has had stuck into her body, I didn't see any of Phosphophyllite herself.

>>937707

That's because Phosphophyllite is useless!

>>945894

What a heavy chapter. Is this the end of the rock bottoms?

>Adamant will annihilate everyone if he prays, not just the moon people

Hey! Wait a minute! This isn't healing! This is just more suffering!

>Phos is going to get a reputation among the young gems as a legendary evil demon that was sealed away in pieces and is hell bent on destroying everything

>>946938

They're not wrong.

>>946938

You can't have a bad reputation if there's nobody left to repute anything.

If the reason Kongou wouldn't pray was because it would destroy the gems too, then the Lunarians' attacks on the gems must have been an attempt to convince him that prayer would be a mercy to the gems, relieving them from the purgatory of being ground into dust for eternity. That explains why the spread the dust across the moon, since then he has a constant reminder of the fate that awaits them after capture. But that doesn't explain why they sent down fake gem bits, which would only serve to give a very faint spark of hope that the lost gems might be saved.

>>946944

They sent the fake gem bits to encourage the gems into more aggressive tactics, spurred on by the lure of rescuing their lost comrades they'd turn reckless and get easily lured into traps.

How did the moon people wake up paradapascha with artificial gem plugs? Can artificial gems be animated if introduced to real gems with real inclusions? If that's the case, can they repair antarc with an artificial body and that bit of foot that's still at the earth gem fortress?

>>946952

It would no longer be the same Antarc, at best. More likely, it wouldn't have enough inclusions to wake up at all.

>>946962

Yet Phos didn't intentionally cause her to be accepted. It was all unintentional, a side-effect of her single-minded pursuit of her actual goal.

I'm not sure Phos even remembers why she's doing this in the first place. She doesn't call Adamant Sensei anymore, just "machine", if he prays and sends just the moon people back like she believes will happen then the moon gems will be stranded alone on the moon, there will be no way to restore any lost gems, and the earth gems will probably just tear her limb from limb again.

Phos has become a crazed, feral animal. So filled with hatred that as she just swipes wildly at whoever is closest.

>>946965

>if he prays and sends just the moon people back like she believes will happen then the moon gems will be stranded alone on the moon, there will be no way to restore any lost gems

I thought the Lunarians told her that the machinery and such would stay. Wasn't that why Amethyst originally started learning how everything worked?

It's evidently untrue, even aside from whether the Bones go with the Souls, since the Lunarians' facilities started to go all melty when Adamant began praying, but I thought that was what Phos believed.

>>946966

The Lunarians probably lied about it to convince Phos.

>>946968

They lied constantly. If he knew this the whole time then absolutely everything was just him talking out his ass and telling Phos exactly what she wanted to hear since none of it would matter the moment Adamant started praying.

>>946968

>>946971

>>946966

>Lunarians literally lie about everything and Phos believes all of it

>Despite assimilating a intelligent gem

Sounds about right

I just wanted to see Phos smile again.

I still can't get over that the moon gems just allowed the reconstruction project to be stopped and just decided they didn't really care about the Phos, the earth gems, the dusted gem, or anything else really.

>>947008

Note that Alexandrite is still blindfolded. Before Phos's last trip there had been talk of a procedure to deal with her issue, but that clearly hasn't happened. It isn't simple selfishness for them to ignore everything, because they're not even doing things that would personally benefit them. They're entirely apathetic, and are willing to let the days go by exactly the same, for two hundred years, accomplishing nothing.

It's no wonder Yellow went insane.

>>947011

I don't understand, how can utter apathy to anything other than what directly benefits themselves be anything but selfishness?

It's been a while since I've reread the chapters where they go to the moon, but from what I remember, all the gems who went, took off for their own selfish reasons: Dia went because she wanted to hurt Bortz, Alex went because she was curious about the moon and wanted to advance her studies, and Yellow went because she wanted to die.

>>947036

That's an interesting exchange. So maybe amythysts are interested in getting more individuality from each other on the moon?

>>947038

That's why one of them joined Phos after all.

>>947025

>And who is this on the skateboard?

Beni and Lexi are busy at the diner. Dia's busy being an idol. Ame's a scientist and Cairngorm's with Aechmea. Yellow's probably not it, so unless I'm missing anyone that only leaves Padparadscha, whose status is completely unknown since the first raid.

>>947040

I don't remember that. I need to reread those chapters.

It feels like all of the fun and cute little scenes were just lies. A human sums up those fun little moments you have with others and grows an actual bond with others, and that bond shines in important situations. But gems aren't like that. All those little moments don't add up to anything, they're all just paper thin. A gem can spend years with another and then lose them without batting an eye. There's a cold distance between everyone despite living like a family. Diamond for example seems like a nice girl, but she doesn't actually care about anyone other than herself. After seeing her going unfazed from Phos getting slaughtered by the earth gems, I'm not so sure if the deaths of any of her friends would affect her at all. Her kindness is a lie, she wouldn't even go to your funeral, much less cry for you.

>Hey Cinnabar, do you wanna go on patrols with me?

How much would have gone differently if Phos had said this?

>>947129

They're soulless, and eternal. Phos is the only gem to truly change.

>>947347

Watch it, then, it's good.

Why is Adamant have fond memories of the past like a dog and a board game if he's a Buddhism bot with no ego?

I was just checking the Wikipedia article, and noticed someone has edited every instance of the word "her" to "their".

>>948431

"Their" is just obnoxious to read. It's bad enough in normal English when you're talking about two people with the same pronoun and it's unclear which is which, and using "their" for everyone makes it even worse by removing singular/plural context too.

The official translation dodged the problem by never using pronouns for the gems at all.

>>948431

It really should be "it". Then again English is a shit language anyway so there is no really good solution.

>>948439

Say "her", because they're clearly girls?

>>948440

If they're girls why do they use words like "nii-chan" to describe each other?

>>948441

It's cute. Like when the girl in Charlie Brown calls the other one "sir".

>>948440

>clearly girls

I don't know what kind of girls you've seen but they look like girls crossed with bishouen. They're smooth around the bend animated rocks.

>>948440

They are, in the literal sense of the word, androgynous. They seem more feminine in the anime because they used female voice actors. The ideal would probably have been castrati whose voices were supposed to be the perfect mix of male and female.

>>948450

No anon, the best voice actors would be to find the minerals themselves and get them to voice the characters.

>>948612

Yeah but what if she bit down?