/a/ - Animu & Mango

>>923160

Dunbine is what he made right before Zeta, right? How does it compare to Ideon, Xabungle, and L-Gaim, the other anime he made between Gundam and Zeta?

I honestly like his non-Gundam anime the best.

Anyone building any models? I just picked up a Gouf.

>>923166

>So does anyone know if you sand the nubs down or cut with an X-acto knife? I haven't been doing mine with sandpaper so it digs into the plastic.

I just got into next level building myself, so I'll share what I've found works best for me.

I use the knife to cut off the nub as much as possible, then use a fine grain sanding stick to sand it down the rest of the way. DON'T use heavy sanding grit for this, or God forbid a metal file. I learned this the hard way. 30503 works well for me most of the time, but 30505 is preferable in many situations, so pick up both. 30502 is the heaviest I'd use, and only in non-common circumstances.

I learned this through trial and error. Don't make the same mistakes I did.

Also, listening to the entire Gundam vocal discography while building is top-tier. Doing it right now with my Gouf. It's the best.

>>923172

That looks like what happens when your mecha skips leg day.

>>923166

What are you planning on picking up next? Another Tomino? In my experience, they're all worth it.

What about a Super Robot anime for a change of pace? Ideon is like a mix of military-focus mobile suit-type and Super Robot with some good SF in there. It's what Tomino made straight after the original Gundam and was actual super influential in the industry, even though it was cancelled early.

If you do watch Ideon, just make sure to watch the movies after. They complete the actual intended story similar to how EoE does.

Afro Amuro

>>923173

Fool.

Mechs don't need legs. The higher ups don't get it.

Space Battleship Tiramisu has potential. I like that the supporting cast aren't annoying teens.

>>923186

S2 really soured my opinion of it, but S1 was worth it. Momoi Robo was the best part.

>>923217

If you never finish 7, how are you going to watch Frontier?

About Gunpla, should I finish snapping it all together before I do any modifications, or should I at least apply some liquid cement as I'm going?

>>923160

You might like victory gundam for the mech design although its just mediocre zeta gundam

>>923249

This. Seriously, Frontier is almost as good as the original.

>MATILDA-SAN!!!

;_;7

>>923379

Like six episodes.

>>923378

Reminds me of Thunderbirds. A lot of these old mech shows have that feel. A kind of innocent childlike fascination with jet planes, and machinery.

>>923388

I like how Patlabor is both serious and a cop comedy between the movies and tv show.

>>923388

I watched the first movie and didn't understand shit. I guess watching the TV show is a must.

>>923396

The OVA is exposition for the movie universe, since the movies tend to focus on the situation at hand and don't really introduce the characters.

>>923396

No, you have to watch the original OVA series.

I feel like an old shit because I can't help but think the original Gundam is pretty much the greatest height anime will ever achieve. Nothing else I've seen even comes close.

>>923455

Didn't he also put a message in the BD release telling people not to buy it?

Gaia Gear has alot more heart to it anyways.

<Gundam

>Not even my own father milked a franchise like this!

<Ideon

>Kill everyone? Wow, so deep!

<Layzner

>A story about a pacifist that gets everyone killed, gee, I wonder why.

<Macross

>An Idol anime?

<Aldnoah Zero

>TACTICS

<Zambot 3

>Implying the other two pilots fucking matter.

<Xabungle

>People just accept the three day rule.

<Knight Lamune

>An isekai.

<KO Seiki Beast

>A Gainax Gay Furry Porn.

<Gunbuster

>A bishoujo yuri sports parody Super Robot Sci-Fi.

<Patlabor

>Cop Drama SoL pretending it's mecha.

<Code Geass

>Code Geass

<Majestic Prince

>"The CGi is good."

<Evangelion

>Ignoring the paradox of a social inept tying to express social ineptitude.

<Egao no Daika

>Nothing ever fucking happens, then it's over.

<Getter Robo

>Proto-TTGL

<TTGL

>DRILLSSZZ!!

<Big O

>"I wish I were American!!" Tryhard anime.

<Cross Ange

>Implying racism wasn't the answer.

<Buddy Complex

>Yaoi Bait trying to be Gundam.

<Captain Earth

>Hey, let's wait 4 episodes until we can see the mecha launch gattai again, that'll be fun.

<Kuromukuro

>A fish out of water story? Perfect, let's have him get acclimated in two episodes.

<Mazinger Z

>Spic anime 1.0

Mecha is stupid.

>>923481

Repost message, please. I missed it. Anon needs to stop fucking up. This is twice in a row.

'''BELIEVE IN THE GETTER!!!

>>923493

My local hobby shop has Getter-1 kit for around $20, should I get it?

>>923493

GETTAA!!

>>923494

Only if you BELIEVE!

>>923497

Well, I'm only half way through the manga, so I don't really know what I'd believe in at this point, sorry.

This thread has reminded me of the Gundam Global Challenge 2020. Haven't checked up on it in a year. They have actually made good progress and kept their promise to having a walking 1:1 scale Gundam by then. They've hired on a guy last year to the team who helped make the double arm Hitachi excavator, I've known about him since 2015, surprised they picked him up. He was inspired by Gundam to make the excavator's double arm, and now he's actually helping make an official Gundam, pretty cool.

>>923529

Any videos of the thing yet?

>>923836

Can we have a Seinfeld anime thread, or would it be deleted?

>>923217

I'm watching M7, about 30 episodes in myself.

It's fucking stupid, silly, ridiculous, and charming. There's a point where you've got to let yourself be mind broken by the stupidity and just listen to his song. It's as if M7 was designed with that in mind, because nothing else is like this. I love it.

>>923749

No videos. Its all hush hush, but they revealed the city where it will be showcased. One more year I guess. Definitely before the Olympics.

I just keep burning love.

>>924212

I have a lot to reply to in this post, but I don't have the time today. Please wait because there are important things you should know.

>>925714

I want to watch this.

>>924212

Okay, sorry for not replying sooner. I've thought about what to say and realized I should just tell the whole story from the beginning as far as I know it. If I get something wrong, I hope an anon can correct me.

Super Dimension Fortress Macross started as the first in a line of three unrelated mech anime, including: Super Dimension Century Orguss and Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross.

It was common practice during this time to fund unrelated anime together as a package like so.

Big West, the production and advertising company, gave the first of these titles to unknown, throwaway studios: Artland, which was just put together in Tokyo for this, and Studio Nue, which was made up of hardcore, SF con-going otaku who did in-between work on various mecha anime in the past and who are seen as the big-brother studio to GAINAX. They are the true first otaku animation studio. In fact, they helped out with some of the con planning and work DAICON FILM and pre-Daicon Confederation of Kansai SF clubs did before they were GAINAX. When they got the call from Tokyo to make an anime, they called out to everyone they knew from their con days and this included several of the Daicon, pre-Gainax guys, including Anno, Yamaga, and Akai. This is where the Gainax guys met Sadamoto and various other otaku who made Gainax with them later.

You can see Anno's mecha and explosion animation handiwork present in many of the early episodes and in particular with the Zentraedi ship exploding when struck by the Macross Cannon present in the OP.

As this was the first time otaku were in charge of making anime, they threw together a story they felt combined all of their passions: military, robots, SF, idol, etc. It's worth it to note how it was those three Zentraedi who ultimately stopped the war because they became Minmay otaku, and eventually began selling doujin products of her, exactly like what otaku were starting to do at the time in real life and still do to this day.

Also, because it was the first anime made by these weird "otaku" types (and the term "otaku" began to come into being), they were given the smallest budget Big West could afford. They had no faith in the series and actively stymied the toy products in advertising expense. They had to send several episodes to Korea, but it was the sole effort of Studio Nue and the animation team that pulled together a miracle hit. They had only planned for the first 26 episodes, but Big West gave them several more when they pulled their head out of their ass and saw the sales. This is the reason behind the after war arc that seemed to come out of nowhere.

In addition, at around the half way point of the series as it was planned then, Anno and the Gainax gang left Tokyo to go make amateur doujin con anime again with DAICON IV coming around and their buddies back home hosting it. They also pulled a lot of talent from the Macross crew when leaving, including Sadamoto, which already gave the Gainax gang a bad reputation in the industry. They were a wild bunch back then.

By the time DYRL came to being made, the Daicon Film guys were done with animating for the time being and Anno had just made his Ultraman doujin film, so he went back to Tokyo alone to work on DYRL and his idol, Miyazaki's new film, Naussicaa.

After DYRL was over, most of Daicon Film came to Tokyo and made GAINAX together with Anno.

Now, that's where things get fucky. After the Flashback 2012 OVA, which was a short music video collection they made for Minmay taking place after the series, Studio Nue didn't want to do anymore Macross. It was over, the story was complete and it was beautiful and precious.

Big West didn't agree. They wanted to milk this cash cow as long as it would moo, and when Nue declined, they went to someone completely unrelated and forced them to push out Macross II, which followed after the DYRL movie.

After this, Studio Nue decided an OVA one of the guys was working on would be Macross-related, in order to compete with and snub their noses at Big West. This was Macross Plus. It actually has nothing to do with Macross and the name was thrown on last minute. Most of the original crew had nothing to do with it.

After agonizing good a good decade over it, the whole Macross Crew, minus the Gainax guys, got together to make a true sequel to Macross, Macross 7. And that story should address much of your post.

>>925741

>This was Macross Plus. It actually has nothing to do with Macross and the name was thrown on last minute

Isn't Guld being half Zentradi a major plot point? It's been years since I've watched Macros Plus, but isn't the reason he's prone to black outs during fits of rage because of brain problems caused by his mixture of human and Zentradi genes?

>>925747

What do you mean by that? Robotech still existed during all that, I just didn't add it to the narrative because it's something else entirely.

When the Gainax guys went to America to research for Royal Space Force, they saw Robotech and couldn't believe it. This is what Otaking wrote:

>Yeah, we were very surprised. Suddenly, in our little hotel room, on our little TV, there’s a little Minmei. And, the voice-actor was saying [IMITATES “RICK HUNTER” VOICE], “Oh, Minmei, Minmei…” AAAAAAAHHH!!! [LAUGHS] We couldn’t believe it, and had a good laugh.

>>925766

Yeah, things like that were added to make it more "Macross" but the story could have worked any other way. Take out the Zentraedi thing and it's the same story. It wasn't Macross and the Macross team didn't even work on it.

>>925741

Forgot to mention how through their passion, the Macross Crew created the first anime-idol out of young Mari Iijima.

After watching Darling in the Franxx, I'm willing to give more mecha shows a go. I think I'll dive into Gundam Unicorn since I always liked this one track from its OST.

>>925741

Thank you for your answer. And don't worry about answering late, it's not like I have been waiting for your answer or anything, hmph.

Even though I already new most of it, there was some interesting information. Honestly, I knew that OVA has little to do with the original series, but I wanted to give it a chance. In my experience there were cases, when much later anime, made by different people was on the level of the original, even better at some points, or at list was a completely different experience, not even trying to be like original and being great in it's own way. Sadly, this didn't happen with Macross Plus, but at least some parts were enjoyable, like gorgeously drawn Macross and battle animations. Though, it lacked an essence necessary to become a good anime.

P.S. Did anyone notice that in Macroos Hikaru used word "otaku" in it's original meaning, as "you"?

>not starting with original Gundam

Why? It's the first one, and a great show in it's own right. It might even be the best Gundam show. Plus, things like War in the Pocket are a lot better if you have the context of the original series to place them alongside.

Zeta was shit.

>>925785

Darling in the Franxx wasn't mecha. It 3DPD acceptance propaganda with mecha as a bait and switch.

>>925854

Evangelion wasn't mecha. It social ineptitude acceptance propaganda with mecha as a bait and switch.

>>925856

That's kind of true. They aren't even really robots.

Macross wasn't mecha. It otaku acceptance propaganda with mecha as a bait and switch.

Gundam wasn't mecha. It war acceptance propaganda with mecha as a bait and switch.

Ideon wasn't mecha. It childlike purity acceptance propaganda with mecha as a bait and switch.

Gundam wasn't mecha. It pacifist acceptance propaganda with mecha as a bait and switch.

Zambot 3 wasn't mecha. It humanity acceptance propaganda with mecha as a bait and switch.

In all seriousness, though, >>925785 should watch the original Gundam if he hasn't already, and then watch whatever he wants afterwards.

Like >>925850 suggests, the purely "realistic" Gundam shows are oftentimes the worst, and the stalwart fans of such against any of the fun are the most intolerable.

>>925864

I think in a way, the original Gundam is one of the more believable shows. The characters just behave like people, for the most part. You can really believe the crew of the White Base are just a bunch of people brought together in a desperate situation, struggling to survive. That's a big part of it's appeal to me.

>>925868

I agree, but it's hard to recapture the magic of that first series. It's Timeless.

Every time they try, it feels inauthentic, like it's trying too hard and the show comes out boring and unappealing.

This is part of the reason the original is just the best part of the series and it never needed a sequel.

>>925869

I guess it comes from the fact that the generation who actually lived through war were still prominent in the industry when the original Gundam came out. Amuro has that feel of just being a regular kid who finds himself in the middle of a war. he's not just an "anime protagonist" or some edgelord, like some of the later characters.

>>925856

Franxx had almost no mecha. The entire show bounced between the fat kid getting NTRed and the MC pursuing a whore who had gone through 100s of men. It was an abortion of a show that's sole point was the promotion of settling for the PDest of 3D in 2D form.

>>925884

Patlabor had almost no mecha. The entire show bounced between the fat guy getting reprimanded and the MC pursuing a robot which had gone through 100s of hours of maintenance. It was an abortion of a show that's sole point was the promotion of settling for politics of the future in SoL form.

>>925887

Yes, production order. But don't forget to watch the mecha anime Tomino made before Zeta. It gives you a greater appreciation of when he goes back to Gundam.

>>930398

It’s probably one of my favorite VNs that I’ve played. I really wish we’d get a good anime adaptation of the original that would be on par with say Steins;Gate, but that’s just wishful thinking.

>>930457

>Maybe I was just too burnt out from Wing.

You and half of Japan, mate.

>>930525

So what? It's not that big. Naruto has 700+ episodes and Gintama has 300+ episodes.

Wing is shit. Mobile Suit Gundam Igloo is fucking radical.

>>930747

Also agreed, although igloo 2 was wacky, all of igloo and igloo 2 was enjoyable. I also like the design of the zudah (rip that engine tho)

>>923492

I have questions about Giant Robo. I was reading the manga Giant Robo, the day the Earth Stood Still and it hasn't completed translation. I was wondering if that is a sequel, a remake, Is it based on the original show, is it based off of the ova your posting now. I'm so confused about what I should watch with that series.

>>931045

It's a crossover between a few old mangas/mecha shows, the majority of which isn't translated into English.

>>931047

So I'm blue balled until someone on /animu/ translates it or I (never) learn japanese?

>>923217

>>923377

>Seriously, Frontier is almost as good as the original.

Lies. It is trash.

The original Macrss was not an idol anime. It had no lolis. It wasn't about stupid "power of song" bullshit.

Everything that came after is took a massive dump on it.

Macross 7 especially.

>>923864

>There's a point where you've got to let yourself be mind broken by the stupidity and just listen to his song.

Fuck him and his song.

I do not accept stupid into my brain.

>>931275

The original series is overrated. DYRL is the best thing to come out of it.

I think it's really weird how some people act like the original is this serious military focused series.

>>923164

I'm debating picking up a 1/100 Tieren and mounting some WW2 arti on it. I'm just turn on the cost of getting it here right now.

>>925785

Unicorn heavily relies on the stuff around it to make sense.

>>930525

Then take your pussy bitch ass back to whatever seasonal shit thread you crawled out of. Many of the classic mecha shows are 50 episodes. You literally have less fortitude and attention than the 12 year old Japanese kids who these shows 1 episode per week. They didn't have the luxury of marathoning like we do.

>>933823

Is it wrong if I look at that picture and see skirts?

>>933999

No anon.

I wonder what kind of pantsu Zakus like to wear

>>934015

Gundam san has MS upskirts.

>>933822

>implying Skull One wouldn't buttfuck that shitty gundam

>>931277

>>931334

>>931361

You fucking retards. Having a popular singer does not make it an idol anime.

Minamy just happened to be in when the Zentradi spies were on board. She was also worst girl and totally irrelevant 99% of the time.

The Zentradi liked all aspects of earth culture. Music didn't have any special power, she just happened to be in and was chosen as a face during the broadcast.

You could easily dump Minmay and her song from the show and it would change nothing.

It was the later macrosses that would push the idol aspect to the absurd.

>>934082

Don't worry, it's OK to enjoy idol anime. No one will judge you for enjoying it.

Many of the best anime were idol anime and Macross just happened to be one of them. Stop being tricked by memes.

>>934082

Don't gaslight yourself just because you don't like the latter series. Let's not even talk about that, let's talk about the original.

Macross was SF about culture influencing a war. I know what you mean by "power of music bullshit" as presented by later series, and that's not what I mean by saying the war was influenced by the power of music.

Okay, so by this we can agree that the war was influenced by music, right? All of culture had an impact, but it was the power of Minmay's song during the final battle that swayed the hearts of the Zentraedi fleet, and this is what ultimately won the war. McDonald's and romance wouldn't have done it in such a short amount of time, and humanity would have been killed off sooner than they could have influenced the Zentraedi.

So, using this logic, we can assert that Minmay was indeed instrumental in winning that war.

And about it being an idol anime, yes, it created the genre. Minmay is the first anime idol. You can't whitewash that piece of history away just because you don't like the genre or what later series were like. Stop being such a faggot.

>>934088

>Stop being tricked by memes.

This is something that should be said more often.

>>934092

>>934088

Having shit taste is still having shit taste. Wanting to push pop music into another medium is going to degrade that medium down to pop cultures level. It also opens the doors to stuff like Carole and Tuesday to push a huge agenda with it.

Some times you will enjoy shit things and that's just how life goes. It doesn't mean you should be supporting shit things because it does have consequences down the line. Idol games and animes are even worse than yearly call of duty releases but their target market don't care. It becomes more profitable to make virtual dolls than an interesting world or interesting gameplay so you get stuck with virtual dolls doing awful dancing as your only options in entertainment.

I personally can't understand why any one finds that style of dancing appealing. It looks like a pack of retards flailing around and humping things. It's so unappealing that it becomes cringe worthy to me. I just don't get it. What's the appeal of having 40 women flail around?

Idol animes or moe blob animes in general seem to be more of an appeal to the leg beard market in Japan. They're animated soap operas designed to rotate and be disposable rather than a worth while piece of entertainment themselves.

>>934088

Stop projecting, faggot.

Point is, there was nothing special about songs in the original macross. No hidden power, no hyponsis, no nothing. It was just music used to confuse the Zentradi.

You could have replaced Minmays song with any other bad or with Bethooven, and it would have had the same effect.

>>934090

No. Minmays song just confused them long enough for the SDF to strike a killing blow against their HQ.

Zentradi were already being confsed enough by the "betrayl" and didn't suddenly switch sides when they heard her sing. They gave up (some of them at leat) after the death of their leader.

Also, something spawning a genre does not make it a prime example of that genre. Heck, it does not even make it genre, since you can make A out of B, that doesn't make B A.

>>934101

He's not wrong though, Idol games and anime are the otaku's celebrity worship industry.

>>934111

No, they really are like music celebrities. Idorus are like a cross between a rock concert/basketball game and celebrity following. They're idols.

There is no difference. It's investing your emotional satisfaction in an abstract woman. Be it 2d or 3d it's still just a character on a screen you will never meet or interact with. She's playing a role to appeal to a demographic, which is often the lonely men and the teenage girls. You're never going to meet her, she's never going to know you exist and she's got a manager telling her where to be and how to act at all times.

You're fetishizing Japan and acting like the exact same behaviour is noble there and vile here for no good reason. If anything it's worse in Japan because they all pretend to be kissless virgins while making softcore porn videos. For all the flaws of the celebrity culture at least they're honest about being whores. The moment one admits to having kissed someone in Japan they're demanding she shave her head in shame and sudoku.

If Britney spears first published her music in Japan you would be saying she's an idoru and totally different. Even though it's the exact same business and people.

>>934120

A woman sucking 50 dicks to get a job is still sucking 50 dicks to get a job. At least if she's honest about it you know she's been doing it.

Do you even want to get into discussing the Yakuzas involvement in idols and all the sketchy shit they get up to? When male wrestlers go to Japan they make them be waiters for them to show they're who's in charge no matter how big a star you are. What do you think is the payment Yakuza take from idols? It sure as fuck isn't asking them to fetch a tray of drinks.

There is no difference, except you're a faggot who wants to play make believe instead of accepting the reality of these businesses.

>>934130

Quality reply there, attempt to invalidate the post pointing out how there is no difference between otakus jerking off to Ami's mizu horiday DEEBEEDEE and the latest issue of FHM.

>>934102

>confused them

Watch it again. Minmay inspired them to protect the culture, pitting the ones who heard her song against the greater fleet.

>>934131

Thinking otaku jerk off to idols is like a sickness in your brain. Please stop talking as if you know anything.

>>934122

That sort of stuff probably does happen, but only in big mainstream units like AKB, but not to the extent you're imagining. In fact, it's easier to promise a girl stardom and take advantage of her without making her an idol, just throw her away when they're done, which is exactly the stories of what happens.

When an actual idol gets taken advantage of, it usually impacts her performance and causes severe depression and suicide.

Idol fans are extremely critical about performances, and I don't think they'd be able to make so many smile if they were going through shit like that in most cases. Stop getting tricked by the memes.

>>934118

You're wrong in three ways.

>Attacking waifuism

Idols shine most when they are themselves on stage, despite their roles. The best producers highlight the best aspects of each girl, but it's only the girl themselves who can shine in the end, meaning despite any role she's playing, her own personality will shine through in the end. Fans love it when a composed-type idol starts tripping on stage, acting the baka, or cry during performances. This isn't Kpop, this isn't Showa, this isn't the West. Idols regularly meet with their fans, MC sections are completely unscripted. They're idols because they naturally shine.

You have a twisted mind, assuming everyone to be whores. Idols put aside personal romance to walk the path for their fans. Western celebrities flaunt their relationships. It's completely different. Western celebrities are not idols. To be an idol is to live a life for everybody, not for themselves.

>>934099

I could pick this apart, but it's not worth it. Lurk more, newfag.

I know you won't understand or accept anything I'm saying, but that's just how a Western layman will be. I don't blame you, it's an unknown culture here.

>>934209

You have absolutely no idea about the fame industry or how women act. They're a pop star no matter how you slice it and sexually exploiting stars is common if not the only way to get into the industry. But this is off topic and I'm not going to convince someone this delusional of the reality of the industry. You're the same type of person who believe cam girls really care about their donators.

How come the Brave series didn't take off with Western animu fans? GaoGaiGar is considered a classic but the other Braves get second booking at best. Even the train series which is getting a lot of SRW screen time isn't getting much attention.

>>934282

I think cam whores are disgusting, but I don't mind being your straw man if that makes you feel better.

Are you in the Japanese entertainment industry, anon? It's amazing that you know so much about it.

The Brave series isn't popular in the west because westerners don't like child-focused mecha anime, even going as far as ignoring it even exists. Gaogaigar is the only title they care about.

Westerners want EPIC, MANLY, and REALISTIC mecha, the stuff that rarely exists as far as the genre is concerned. Look at the conversation we had about Gundam in this thread.

>>934286

Not only do you not know shit about the entertainment industry, you don't know shit about the Brave series. Plenty of them have the same target audience as Gundam and have teenage or adult heroes.

>>934287

You just love projecting ignorance, don't you?

Are Showa Toku shows not targeted to kids because they feature adult protagonists? Gundam was a kids anime, just like all mecha shows at that time. Next you'll say Zambot 3 was for adults.

The Brave series was a return to form at a time when the genre needed it most. And Western newfags don't like traditional mecha.

>>934104

Otaku games and anime are primary aimed at little girls of 8-12 years old. Otaku are minority.

>>934303

> Otaku games and anime

I wanted to say idol games and anime. Fuck me.

>>934090

>Minmay is the first anime idol.

What is Sasurai no Taiyou. What is Pink Lady Monogatari.

Learn Japanese and watch more anime before spouting bullshit on the net. Macross may have a lot of strong points, but being "the first idol show" is not one of them.

>>934336

>What is Pink Lady Monogatari.

Tell me, please, what is it. And where to get it, I can't find for the last 5 years.

>>934336

Both Pink Lady and Hirai Michiko were popular idols far before they were in any anime. What I mean by "the first anime idol" is that Minmay is what made Mari Iijima, making her the first idol from an anime, the likes of which we see often nowadays, not that it's the first time an idol was in an anime.

I may not know enough Japanese, but I know idols.

What's some good mecha mangos? Something that does well to express the size and weight of mechs. A lot of Gundam series suffer where they have pages of combat that looks too static and dull. I remember Bokurano being enjoyable and giving a lot of weight to the mechs.

>>934357

Getter Robo is too fantastical to portray weight, but I remember the Mazinger Z manga being pretty great.

Those are the only two I've read other than Rayearth, though.

>>934357

I enjoyed linebarrel. I don't remember much about how it portrayed weight though. Return of Johnny Ridden was pretty good too.

>>934466

MSV-R is a fun ride but gets lost in Zeon fanwank too much. IT would make a really good OAV but I don't see it happening. It suffers from mango being bad for action and a lot of chapters are action heavy.

The upgraded Gelgoogs was cool

>>934357

>What's some good mecha mangos? Something that does well to express the size and weight of mechs. A lot of Gundam series suffer where they have pages of combat that looks too static and dull. I remember Bokurano being enjoyable and giving a lot of weight to the mechs.

Vision of Escaflowne

>>937488

Layzner was fuck. It was pretty good until the last bit when they changed everything due to having their time cut. It could have been something great if it wasn't cancelled.

Let me tell you a secret. It's Dragon Ball Z. Toriyama ripped off was inspired by Layzner because it aired alongside the original DragonBall anime. Think about it.

Gradosians=Saiyans. The V-MAX, the scouters.

Layzner is a battle action anime.

>>937488

>What's everyone else

Xabungle.

>>937537

VOTOMS had the benefit of not being cancelled mid-production.

My problem with Layzner is that it started out pretty serious and engaging all the way through, the V-MAX coming in as a surprise, but then after the time skip everything becomes silly while it still takes itself just as seriously as before.

But even though I have problems with it, I have to admit V-MAX is just super cool. There's a reason Toriyama stole took inspiration from it.

It would have been nice if Eiji didn't use it so often later on. Remember when fuel and energy were big concerns, and V-MAX drained Rei, so it wasn't something to be used too much?

Stuff like that was thrown out the window after they found out it was being cancelled.

I asked Japanese Google Assistant what kind of Robot anime she likes, and she said:

>Evangelion

>Gundam

>VOTOMS

>TTGL

So, I assume these are the most popular in the genre.

She didn't say Macross because that's actually an Idol anime.

>>937566

I think only in the West. I hear it get mentioned more often than you'd think in Japanese media.

>>937567

Rayearth was CLAMP's first manga, and I'd say it's a pretty legendary start. I don't know what the anime is like, but I really enjoyed the manga. If you're looking for mecha, though, you aren't going to find much there. It's more an isekai fantasy comedy. CLAMP is all girls, and girls don't into mecha.

Although it's like a parody throughout, It has a very dramatic, great twist in the end, so look forward to that.

From Google Translated Japanese wikipedia:

>However, in the second half of the 1990s, the shadow of “Brave series” and “Heisei Gundam” began to appear offensive to viewer ratings and television station conditions, and in the 2000s, Post-Eva's works lost their momentum, and their successors The robot animation has a general tendency to decline without any big tidal current. In particular, robot animation in full- day animation became extinct , and airing in late-night animation became a de facto standard. Of the programs in which giant robots appear, only the special effects " Super Squadron Series " continues broadcasting on all days.

>This is due to the withdrawal of sponsors due to the slump in the toy industry as a whole due to an increase in options due to the diversification of hobbies by the spread of home games and trading card games, etc., and the relationship between television stations and production companies and toy companies. And, as the ratio of children to the total population of Japan decreased, the percentage of customers who could obtain more from it decreased, and the traditional classic obsolescence due to the development of real technology and changes in the situation It was the main factor. At the end of these times and circumstances, the computer game ( Visual Novel ) “ To Heart Series”, in which a life-sized robot appears as the main character, has been animated several times as a result of the hit and has achieved a certain level of commercial success. It is rare to include these in robot animation.

So please stop asking about why "Mecha is dead". It's right there. The fact is that the greats all made Mecha anime because that's what was in for the time. That's what made money.

Now that the anime market has evolved in a different direction, the best animators are doing other things because that's where the money is. Anime used to be much smaller. All the best Mecha was made by 1-3 people because that's what sold toys, and that's all who could animate the toys. It was an an illusion of a boom out of circumstance and nothing more. It's not that today is the strange world of no robot anime, Showa simply had a few people with inhuman talent. The old Mecha boom was the strange world.

>>938244

I particularly liked the Powered Suit types of Frontier.

>>937591

>tiny L-Gaim in the bottom right

I'm guessing votes or recognition is equatable to size?

>>925785

>Starting with Unicorn

>>925869

That was Unicorn's real crime. It was doing the SEED thing and trying to repackage old idea rather than just having it's own story.

>>930920

0083 is better.

SEED was actually good. /a/ lied to me for all these years.

>>938559

This looks extremely cheap.

>>924115

Watch the American version of Macross AKA Robotech. 300 episodes later and you'll wish it went on forever!

>Harto Bureaka GAN GA GAN!

A hidden classic from a more civilized age about the fires of love and passions which fuel it!

>>938644

t. Harmony Gold.

Enjoy losing your license in two years.