No.840513
Original anime made by J.C. Staff and Mizukami Satoshi (Hoshi no Samidare, Spirit Circle).
The first episode is good, I really like the dynamic between Sensei, Ginko and Souya.
No.840516
>>840513
I saw this one's trailer. What is it with Japan and shitty framerate on their 3DCG?
No.840526
Looked like utter shit. Generic shonen garbage with Soya-named MC. Trash.
No.840532
>>840516
>What is it with Japan and shitty framerate on their 3DCG?
Bad attempts at imitating 2D anime animation.
No.840534
>>840516
For some reason they think 3DCG looks just as good as 2D in 24 fps.
No.840538
>>840513
>made by J.C. Staff and Mizukami Satoshi.
>featuring Asahina from Hoshi no Samidare series!
Weird. Is this an actual crossover? I might check it out.
No.840541
>>840538
>Weird. Is this an actual crossover
No, it's an original anime. Mizukami did the entire story and the original character designs.
The Asahina figure is just a reference, but I hope that Planet With is a success since it might pave the way for a Hoshi no Samidare anime.
No.840543
>>840541
For whatever reason, Mizukami doesn't seem to want a Hoshi no Samidare anime (or a Sengoku Youko one). Planet With was apparently designed by him from the ground up as an anime, so hopefully it will live up to his reputation.
No.840560
This has potential to be pretty good, though the first episode had some issues. Mainly the CG.
No.840569
>>840526
>>840560
The face of /a/.
No.840572
>>840569
I wouldn't call it a shonen, I don't know if >>840526's even seen the first episode. The MC does look like the usual fucking annoying shonen MC, but doesn't really behave like one. I think it might have been made to look like a generic shonen mecha on purpose.
No.840575
>>840572
Mizukami usually writes seinen, and the manga version runs in a seinen magazine.
>>840526 is likely a crossboarding shitposter, they usually appear when a new season starts.
No.840634
>>840575
>people visit other boards and comment first episodes i'm literally shaking
No.840661
I don't entirely know what's going on, but I'll stick around to find out.
No.840685
This was weird enough to be fun, if they can maintain this level of fun weirdness I will keep watching. Though as this is JC Staff I don't have any expectation that this will turn out to be good, it might not be totally horrible. They've got me wondering who the 'good' side is at this point, it looks like the MC used to be friends with the other fighters but got shafted by them and is now out for revenge. So he might be something of a villain protagonist. The stuff about the UFOs causing people to have these weird sentimental visions is interesting, not expecting whatever drama comes of this to be very good but hopefully the ride will be enjoyable while it lasts.
No.840715
Holy shit this was bad. Who fucking plans to watch every episode of this garbage? Stop making threads for every single show OP. Just stop.
No.840732
Looks interesting so far. Definitely setup a lot of pieces on the board. I always hold anime originals like this one to a higher standard of writing than adaptations. Hopefully JC staff does not screw it up.
No.840800
>>840575
Looks like you were right: >>840634
No.840843
>>840516
It would be incredibly distracting if the animation was 24fps and the 3DCG was smooth 60 fps.
No.840875
>>840843
This. I vaguely recall some anime in the past trying it, and it looked weird as hell. The problem with the lower frame rate on the 3DCG in anime is they usually seem to just apply a uniform framerate reduction, instead of taking the time to choose which frames to preserve and which to skip, because this would take more time, even though it would lead to visuals that fit in much better with 2D animation. But the whole point of 3DCG is to save time/money, so a uniform reduction is quicker and cheaper than picking each frame individually by hand.
No.840878
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>840875
For all the grips with 3D, I think they are making good progress in making it palatable.
No.840899
>>840843
You don't even need to increase the framerate you just need to make it integrated it with the rest of the scene. Have proper keyframes instead of rendering an animation out at fixed rate with no consideration of which actual frames will be seen; hand tweak for proper smears or at the very least replicate shutter blur to stop it being a fucking eyesore.
No.840909
>>840875
>But the whole point of 3DCG is to save time/money
The point of 3D is that there aren't enough good 2D animators.
3D animators don't work for pocket change, as long as it isn't done by complete amateurs it will be as expensive or more expensive than 2D.
There's also the fact that 2D animation is cheap, really cheap. The Bamboo Blade leak is the only good source of information for the cost of 2D animation.
Key animation (1,200,000) + tween frames (840000) + finishing (798,000) for a total of 2,838,000 yen per episode.
http://bakudon.net/news/2008/02/27/financials-heaven-hell-reality-three-looks-at-the-business-of-animation-production-part-3-an-examination-of-the-production-costs-of-bamboo-blade
With the current exchange rate this is 25689$. I didn't list minor costs like color coordination (70000) since these costs would also exist in a 3D anime.
CG (without special effects) is listed as 100,000 yen per episode, and Bamboo Blade barely used any CG.
> The problem with the lower frame rate on the 3DCG in anime is they usually seem to just apply a uniform framerate reduction, instead of taking the time to choose which frames to preserve and which to skip, because this would take more time, even though it would lead to visuals that fit in much better with 2D animation.
Anime is usually animated in 2's or 3's, and the rate with which things are animated varies during the episode.
Like you said, choosing frames by hand would fit much better with 2D animation, but normally this isn't an option with the amount of money studios get for an anime.
No.840922
>>840543
Probably he feels they function best as Manga and not as anime. Spirit Circle, especially, wouldn't work at all unless it was very long.
The real question is if this show joins his united canon.
No.840935
>>840685
>They've got me wondering who the 'good' side is at this point
Up until the post-credits scene sure. Unless they're going to pull a double triple twist it's pretty clear protagonist is more or less on the 'good' side now, or at the very least that both sides are 'evil'.
No.841115
>>840634
Careful anon, banter isn't kosher around here.
No.841859
>>840935
Not really, the huge dark dude with glowing eyes could be a fakeout. Maybe the 'good' side just so happens to have a really scary dude on their death.
>or at the very least that both sides are 'evil'.
This would be an interesting twist.
No.841881
>>840513
So does old mate just assume that everyone else at school also has a giant talking cat and a seaweed meido at home?
No.841990
Sensei eats cabbages like a real man.
Well, like a real manly humanoid purple cat.
No.843417
Surprised they explained exactly what's going on by the second episode, instead of dragging it for 20+ and even then not really providing a satisfactory explanation as tends to be the norm.
No.843443
Just finished the first episode, looks like the height of absurdity. Is this a parody?
No.843445
So is this guy a super-human just trying to push humanity or a Nebula-ian looking to use humanity's new power as his personal insurrection force against the other nebula-ians?
Also protagonist isn't from Earth? He remembers the other 7 guys but they seem to be pretty attached to Earth so what gives? Body snatchers? Reincarnation? Earth 2.0?
>>843443
Plenty of aburd-esque anime that are played straight in terms of direction and plot. It's the natural progression of almost any genre in any medium to become self-aware and start playing with the audience's established concepts about the conventions of said genre, for better or worse. It's not really a 'deconstruction', if that word really does mean anything, so I suppose it's the rough equivalent of affixing the 'post-' prefix to a genre or style in music and visual arts.
No.843675
This show is pretty retarded.
No.843702
We're two episodes in and I still don't know what the fuck is motivating these characters or why I should care. This storytelling is abysmal.
No.844146
>>840575
>they usually appear when a new season starts.
It is Summer, anon.
No.845140
>>843702
The seven (now six) opponents of the main character believe they are protecting earth from invaders.
The main character and his allies are a faction of Nebula, the "invading" force - the Pacifist faction. Nebula believes that humanity is developing the power to fight on the spacefaring scale and wants to curb that. The two factions disagree on how: Pacifists want to take the power away and let humanity try again for a more peaceful option while Sealing Faction (the big weird things) want to lock humanity's progress away period. So the main character fights these mech-using 'heroes' and takes away their power sources.
There's an implication in the first episode that if the Sealing Faction is allowed its way humanity will be trapped in a lotus-eater-machine esque Matrix existence, so the 'heroes' of course want to prevent that. The MC wants revenge for some unexplained conflict some time ago, and he's a soldier of the Pacifist faction besides, so he wants to fight the 'heroes'.
This is literally all spelled out for you by dialogue. The fact that you can't figure any of it out means you must be comically and tragically retarded.
No.845615
>>845140
Ah, this is one of those shitty anime that fedora's defend by claiming the intellectual high ground. Glad I dropped it.
No.845629
>>845615
>being able to read is the intellectual high ground
Well he wasn't wrong.
No.845731
>>845615
This is not "lol eva 2deep4u?" this is "Statements made by the characters without any metaphor or symbolism that you failed to understand". This is not "Piggy represents society because he has glasses that allow him to start fires", this is "They killed a boar". This is not "The majpr theme of the story is love transending time and life" it is "They had a lot of babies."
Dear god, this is like talking to a physical embodiment of CinemaSins videos.
No.845772
>>845615
>that fedora's defend
Damn a half decade old reddit meme looks like I have to drop it now!
No.847327
This show isn't a masterpiece or anything, but it's ridiculous how much better it is than everything else that gets passed as "mecha" and "sci-fi" lately. Others aren't even trying. Yes, ID-0 is the exception.
No.847329
>>847327
Nobody watched ID-0.
No.847331
>>847329
You don't have to remind me
No.847468
Nezuya-kun got the good ending.
No.847473
>>847329
It's a shame
>>847469
Ginko is a qt
No.847499
The show is really ugly. I'm only one episode in so far, but that flying object was both lolsorandom and just plain fucking ugly. The only thing in the show that isn't ugly is the maid, who is wonderful and I want to do all sorts of things to her and her hair. Something about the main character's hot pink eyes disturbs me. The Noivern mecha that he had indicates that this is a Pokemon crossover, right? The other mechas were also ugly, and had far too many flashy lights.
It relies far too much on that typical Japanese storytelling style where random shit happening with no explanation is confused for good writing and depth. Why does he live with a seaweed maid and an ugly CGI cat? Even assuming the whole traffic accident story is true, I don't think that's how orphans are dealt with. Why does no one care that he lives with the ugly CGI cat? The rest of the setting is obviously a normal high school setting and the flying objects and mecha sentai faggots were treated as completely unfitting, so why does the humanoid cat not raise any eyebrows? Why does the MC want to eat meat, yet the seaweed force him to stay on a soyboy diet? The not-seaweed-maid-therefore-not-interesting girl didn't have meat either; was that a coincidence or does the world just have meat for some reason? The show gives you scenes that you don't have the information to make sense of yet, then presumably drip feeds you the explanations which may or may not be meant to be metaphorical. Seeing scenes that are supposed to be emotional, like the main character's rage or the random flashbacks without any context to them is just weak. It's bad storytelling.
I want more maid and less lolsorandom and insufficient context.
On a side note, the show seems extremely unpopular because it has essentially no fanart at all. Such a waste of a good maid.
No.847509
>>847499
>I'm only one episode in so far
>but let me write a massive list of issues things I didn't get before watching the rest of the show
Why not just like, watch the rest of it first?
No.847521
>>847473
There better be more Ginko fanart I fucking swear.
No.847541
>>847470
So dolls get upskirts, but the girls get censor shadows?
No.847557
>>847541
It looks like pantyhose to me.
No.847827
>>847499
>It relies far too much on that typical Japanese storytelling style where random shit happening with no explanation is confused for good writing and depth.
Watch the rest before commenting, everything has been basically explained and the plot is clear. This isn't a 2deep4u show, what show even explains every mystery in it in the first episode anyways?
No.849398
>episode 6 has the final showdown
It's going to be flipped on its head next episode, isn't it?
No.849403
>>849398
It must. The giant man will be trounced easily showing how big a threat Nebula is or he could win and go berserk. Honestly, it could go either way and the story won't suffer.
No.849536
>>849398
Shit is definitely going down.
No.849579
>>849568
>second pic
Is that a motherfucking Discworld reference?
No.849692
>>849579
Both Discworld and this anime are referencing the World Turtle myth.
No.849833
>>849579
>Is that a motherfucking Discworld reference?
Anon, I am disappoint.
No.851195
My expectation to have my expectations subverted has been subverted. Now is the time to post pic related.
No.851235
>>851195
>I don't even know whats going on now
I came here to post this.
No.851732
>The whole Earth invasion was just for the dogs sense of aesthetic
>The face and geta punch fit my aesthetic
A good laugh was had as this chapter came to a confusing close. With the fighting over for now I suppose we can backtrack and pick up all the plot that dropped mid battle in the last two weeks. I'm fully expecting the author to do the opposite and charge into the next battle
No.852832
Now we know what's going on once again, more or less.
No.853001
>>851384
>The wonderful maid joins him in the not-mecha
>But she doesn't do anything at all, either just standing around confused or trying to keep up with the Soyaboy
I appreciate that they gave the wonderful, perfect green maid more screen time, but also disappointed because she really didn't do anything.
By the way, this show has really weird sound effects. It's like they're trying to get in on the Inception noise bandwagon years late or something.
No.853097
>>853001
I agree on the sound effects, there also very loud, they fucked up the sound balancing.
Also if you want more of the perfect green princess maid, you should like this last episode, also more greens.
No.853104
>>853097
>more greens
Theres a difference between lettuce and spinach. Lettuce sucks and spinach goes well with most things.
No.853205
>>853001
>doesn't do anything
Apparently the mech works on the users life/spiritual energy or something like that, so having more people in it gives it more power even if they're idle.
>>853097
>they fucked up the sound balancing
I think it's intentional, lowered the volume of everything in it to make the loud effects stand out.
No.853349
So Rielians are vegetarians, but is the entire universe conspiring to deny MC his meat dishes part of Ginko's and Sensei's ongoing plan to prove that Kuroi and thus Siriusians in general are capable of evolving towards love? Does him eating burgers turn him militaristic and/or violent?
No.853982
[GIRL WITH HARD-TO-PRONOUNCE NAME INTENSIFIES]
No.853995
>>853205
>Apparently the mech works on the users life/spiritual energy or something like that, so having more people in it gives it more power even if they're idle.
Yes, but more or less just standing in there is not a very interesting action, nor does it show her off well.
>>853349
I hope it doesn't turn into a show about how eating meat is bad and you should stop doing it in order to become peaceful.
No.854954
This show might actually be my AOTS, the last few episodes were great.
My only criticism is the CG mechs, but at least we still have the manga where that's not a problem.
No.855171
>>853349
>>853995
Oh god Kuroi is one of those lion that hippies got a hold of and fed tofu until it nearly died of malnutrition to prove that meat wasn't neccessary even in a carnivore's diet. Now that I think about it even the meido is trying to subconciously convince people to eat greens with her delicious wakame hair.
>>853982
I'm glad we didn't have to spend a whole arc dealing with the mind-control powers and just dumped them same episode. If there's one thing I like about this show it's that we're getting some damn resolutions. I think.
>>854954
Isn't this an anime original work?
No.855174
>>855171
>Isn't this an anime original work?
It's based on a draft by Mizukami, and Mizukani has also started to publish an manga based on the same draft.
The manga is behind the anime but they cover the exact same story.
No.855228
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>>855171
>Oh god Kuroi is one of those lion that hippies got a hold of and fed tofu until it nearly died of malnutrition to prove that meat wasn't neccessary even in a carnivore's diet.
One look at her tells us that she is quite healthy. I just hope it doesn't turn into hippie propaganda about how you need to not eat meat to evolve into a good species.
I wish to taste her hair.
No.855229
>>855228
>One look at her tells us that she is quite healthy.
Woops, should've really specified that I meant Souya. Obviously Ginko is fine, she probably photosynthesises or osmoses though considering her nature as a piece of sentient seaweed.
No.855288
We finally have all of the plot out, or at least the outline.
No.855296
Unexpected GITS reference.
No.855343
>>853982
Nozochan really did her best this episode. She has more character than 90% of implied romantic interests.
No.855385
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
New series theme
I hope we get the dragon fight soon so that we can have yet another final battle before the series is over
No.855431
>>855296
Neko maid GITS reference
No.855437
>Homemade gun
Sure.
>I don't know what I'll do with power, that's why no one else should have have
Red confirmed worst girl for being a gun-grabber.
No.855443
>>855437
>Homemade gun
It's simple, first you have to buy a gun then assemble it at home.
No.855594
>>855437
>I don't know what I'll do with power, that's why no one else should have have
>I'm also a woman and I don't really want this and want someone to stop me
Red confirmed too real.
No.855853
>>855288
>broke hypnosis through the power of boobs alone
Truly a man among men.
No.855855
>>855594
this is an actual argument I had with a liberal chick about gun ownership
No.856133
I'm consistently reminded of the sharp writing in this show. Every time I start it up again I'm not sure why and then it hits me. It's genuinely funny.
No.856183
>>856133
In a normal anime it would have gone like this:
>girl drops from tree, goes on for several sentences about how it's just a coincidence that they met
>MC starts yelling "that's not a coincidence at all, what high schooler girl drops from a high tree! that's not normal at all, is it"
Instead they just show their surprise and then disbelief because they saw through her obvious lie. Anime in general is terrible at not explaining the joke.
No.856595
>>856183
Isn't that a whole genre of comedy in Japan? Fool says something dumb, and the punchline is that the other guy explains that it's dumb?
No.858440
MC continues doing simple MC things. His motivation has little to do with the choices of his former planet and everything to do with protecting the life he has now. Its refreshing to have a guy like this instead of some stick in the mud like the giant muscles guy at the start or Benika and the sealing fag this episode.
No.858446
>>856595
Yeah Boke and tsukkomi, Gintama has a part where they mention that foreigners don't understand why Shinpachi keeps yelling and explaining jokes.
No.858475
>>856595
It is, but that just shows how shitty their sense of humor is. If I have to accept that dogshit humor is good simply because it's their culture, I would have to accept that everything some third world shithole does is good because it's their culture. And there are rare cases where they do manage to be actually clever, such as some of the writing in this show, so it can't be entirely universal.
No.859476
>>858440
Props to Yosuke for being so mad about her waifu being hurt he managed to seal the entire planet requiring an alien from an ancient race to unseal it.
No.859873
This is the second ending, next we'll get a third ending. Pink better be flat in the future, too.
No.859904
>>859873
I thought it was pretty based that the old man totally wrecked the dog with one blow and then all he needed was food and a nap!
No.859918
>>859873
Both endings have been pretty cool. This one was more of a straight up fight and again it ended with a geta on a fist. I'd like the dragon defeat to end differently but this geta stuff is a good precedent. The old man was very cool just throwing all of his power into that one strike.
No.859980
I can’t decide what would be better, slightly aged up Ginko or her staying the same. Both would be good in my book
No.860289
>>859980
She is already at or even past her peak age, let's hope that the royal seaweeds stay eternally young.
No.861767
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>>859980
My wish came true
No.861817
>flat
>graduated to smug lolihag
I'm OK with this. Young Ginko was better though.
No.861912
That episode was unironically a 10/10 in my book. Let’s hope the finale won’t fuck it up
No.861935
>>861817
Pink is dangerous. Shes going to kidnap, bully, and blackmail some middle aged man one day. I like that even Nozochan is relevant to this battle and has already claimed MC.
No.861972
I wonder how the final episode will play out.
No.862058
At this point I'm almost sure this is going to be my AotS.
These last episodes been consistently great, with Norio Wakamoto and Rikiya Koyama yelling at each other in the previous one, the Paradise guy dropping his unflappable facade in this one and everyone teaming up to forgive the dragon by kicking his ass.
Just need them to hold up the quality and high grade gouda in the home stretch.
No.862725
>>861972
>that foot rub
Jesus christ she is a hazard to any male in the room. I almost feel bad for him that he already hooked up with glasses. Speaking of glasses, it was pretty silly that she is now some sort of psychic genius and takes part in the battle.
There better be porn of pink now. The show is terribly unpopular with fan artists for some reason despite being good and having good designs.
No.862893
>>862725
I don't feel bad about it because glasses is best girl.
No.863364
Well that was nice, I was afraid that at any point the anime was going to take a dark turn, but glad it didnt.
No.863369
It was a really good show, interesting to see such a big span of events covered in a single cour without abysmal pacing issues. I liked that the plot always delivered surprises and people generally reacted very reasonably to events. The way the paradise guy was used in the end was also nice, a fairly restrained deus ex machina, although megane finding them right away through yet another deus ex machina was starting to push it, but I guess you might as well go all the way with the happy end.
The questionable CG was the biggest downside. The actual fights were good, I had no issues with the odd kigurumi designs, but the mechs were just all over the place, even by the end I could barely tell who was in which one aside from the two mains.
No.863371
>>863369
>even by the end I could barely tell who was in which one aside from the two mains
They did made the mechs have different energy colors, though couldn't tell what animal Inaba's friend was supposed to represent.
No.863373
>>863369
Megane finding Souya kinda made sense, as Nebula gives so much insistence to love her power worked especially better for Souya.
>>863371
Their mechs were all animal based like their names. The other Judo girl was bear.
No.863479
>>863369
Sensei was an ally of justice done right: He stuck to his guns from start to end and managed to prove his point by saving everyone.
Childhood's End - Anime Edition managed to deliver until the very end, definitively my AotS.
No.863536
I liked it, but I didn't think it was nearly as good as Mizukami's other major works. The pacing seemed weird, I guess because he's not used to writing with the restrictions that come with a single cour anime. It also felt more preachy than his other stuff to me. The CG was still probably my biggest problem, as it was bad even for anime standards and took me out of it multiple times. The designs weren't even that complicated compared to most other mecha shows, I just wish Mizukami could have gotten a better studio than JC Staff for his big break.
I'll probably read through the manga when it ends, but from what I understand it's pretty much just Mizukami's cleaned up storyboards so I imagine it will be the exact same. At least it has his great art instead of the terrible CG.
Ginko is best girl.
No.863559
>>863536
I agree completely. I just hope this can lead to some of his other work getting an anime. It's really weird for this to be his first anime adaptation.
No.863656
>>863559
Apparently Mizukami himself is the one that doesn't want his other works animated (I don't really know the reason besides I think "They wouldn't translate well enough", and I have no source to back this up, so take it with a pound of salt). That's why he made Planet With: He intended for it to be an anime from the very start, and that's why he let it be animated as opposed to Hoshi no Samidare, Spirit Circle, etc.
No.863694
>>863656
I'd believe it. The only one they'd have a chance of doing justice is Spirit Circle.
No.863779
What everyone else said, it was pretty good.
No.863783
I liked it but I think it suffers at around the middle half. We get this short middle arc battling the remnants and it feels so out of place. Feels like it should have flowed more smoothly instead of feeling like a bump to the conclusion. I wished the girl learned the truth in a different way instead of the boy just telling her out of the blue and she immediately accepts it.
2 episodes for the time skip conclusion could have worked better if they had an extra episode to show the passage between those 5 years beforehand. To show is resolve of loving earth and letting go of his revenge. Also, to help show the message he was getting at that was very poignant. How time makes people lose interest in tragedy and go about their daily lives if their isn't constant news about it. That kind of normalization is very interesting and true take of humanity.
Other than those complaints, I think it was a very solid show and worth the watch.
No.863807
>>863783
Yeah, the part between Souya defeating Takashi and the time skip was definitely the weakest. I wish they had just wrapped up Benika's story before that fight.
No.863876
The show was good, but the last episode felt too by the numbers. Especially the two back to back convenient plot saves at the end. An epilogue would have been nice, too.
No.863914
I'm left wanting more Ginko...
No.864810
Late to the party, but it's worth saying this is certainly one of the best of this year.
No.864967
Why does she make that :3 face ?
No.864975
>>864967
She's a big catgirl.