/a/ - Animu & Mango

>>819224

I had lots of fansubbed VHSes growing up in the 90s but they're all easily replaced in higher quality now thanks to piracy sites (or DVDs if I feel like paying).

>>819224

The first and last time I watched an anime on vhs was Spirited Away, not counting the VHS rips I've downloaded.

>>819229

>I'm transferring all my VHS digitally

You're doing god's work.

No, because I actually grew up with VHS and don't miss the degraded quality you get after multiple viewings, the possibility of the tape getting chewed up by the machine, and having to rewind after each viewing.

>>819229

>There's plenty of people who wouldn't mind watching some shitty VHS rips with yellow subtitles put together by some 90's era college students.

The only reason those are interesting to watch are the fansub wars that spilled over into the subs. The actual subs are usually trash.

>Most would consider those lost media.

The only thing "lost" are the mediocre trailers thrown together by some shitty dub studios like in that webm.

The only reason to watch anime on VHS and laserdisc is if it's something that still hasn't been remastered or re-released on a disc and is still only available on some old analog medium. Laserdiscs are also nice for the big artwork.

>>819237

>Are there any_ anime that only got VHS releases?

A few, like Akira Toriyama's "Pink" OVA from 1990 (Which still hasn't been captured or fansubbed to my knowledge) and "The Sensualist" from 1991 which has been digitally captured and subbed.

>>819240

>The only reason to watch anime on VHS and laserdisc is if it's something that still hasn't been remastered or re-released on a disc and is still only available on some old analog medium.

any good examples of that besides those 2? I think California Crisis is only on VHS, but I can't think of any other OVAs. I thought take the X train might have been VHS only too, but I found an image of the LD recently that surprised me.

>>819240

>Akira Toriyama's "Pink" OVA from 1990 (Which still hasn't been captured or fansubbed to my knowledge)

AnimeBytes has a fansub that purports to be a 640x480 DVD rip.

>>819266

I can second this. Most of my bootlegs are showing their age as is, my precious copy of Jin-roh unfortunately was dead the last time I was home.

>>819224

Get some a capture card with some RCA input and digitze that shit as fast as possible.

>>819252

I think they're an interesting novelty of the time and worth saving, especially when you consider most of the things on VHS you can save are redundant and have digital releases. As for the world outside /a/, it's hard to know unless you put them on the Internet for them to see.

>>819252

Always archive everything.

>>819264

Yes please.

I know it's silly but there's something very comforting about popping in my old tapes from when I was a kid. Using this old technology makes me feel a small bit closer to my childhood and that's a feeling I don't want to go away. Tape deterioration sucks.

>>819386

>take tape

>digitalize it

>keep a backup on digital media

>when tape deteriorates simply buy new ones and load the digital backup on the new tape

Some day the supply of clean VHS tapes will be used up. That day will be a dark one for mankind, as survivors will cannibalize the less popular works to keep their favorites alive just a little bit longer.

>>819264

Not really, considering it's dub shit.

This is even worse than CRT tv faggots.

VHS are all around awful, I somewhat get idiots who like vynal because it has a unique sound but VHS is visual and audio so you are just having awful visual quality and audio quality with no real redemption.

>>819415

Fucking kids, swear to god...

>>819434

>we

VHS and CRT are not good and calling me a child because I dont hold any pointless attachments to them is dumb.

>>819447

>CRT [is] not good

Maybe for text, but certainly not for anime. At equal resolution you'll get a better result on CRT compared to LCD or OLED.

>>819447

I've never seen a good CRT: the post.

>>819434

The people huffing their own shit over video technology they willfully ignore the deficiencies of sound more like children. Don't act like the shit I listed here >>819240 weren't fucking annoying and a relief to see gone once DVD became a standard.

>>819457

>Don't you think the inherent blurriness of VHS adds to certain genres?

Nope, because most directors make films for being projected in a theater, not your shitty 12" Zenith with bad screen curvature distortion, overscan, and RF/composite color bleed.

>but some people like it.

Those people are hipster idiots and are more occupied with being up their own ass than knowing how video technology works and how it's progressed.

>>819453

>but certainly not for anime. At equal resolution you'll get a better result on CRT compared to LCD or OLED.

Please inform us how great your pan and scanned VHS of Akira from 1991 looks compared to the bluray.

>>819457

Also, you can stop posting your webms of dub trash, none of it's very impressive.

>>819464

It's a promo reel, you goof.

>>819473

It's a promo for dub trash, don't be dense.

>>819463

Akira on bluray on CRT > Akira on bluray on LCD

>>819463

CRTs do have better/crisper image though because it's analog, faggot. No matter how much ones and zeros try to recreate analog, they are not a continuous wave form. You reach a point where digital is "good enough" to mostly replixcate balog, but it would still be inferior in every way to comparative analog frequency/signals. The reason your DVD looks "crisper" is because most CRTs are low-quality garbage. If you get a 720pixel CRT and compare it to a 720pixel LCD, the CRT is superior in every wayway (except power consumption).

The reason we switched to DVD/Bluray and digital TVs is because you can have a single microchip and an array of LEDs produce a comparable scene for about 1/10th of the price, and VHS can't really store data well.

>>819485

>Balog

Replicate analog*

Apologies.

>>819485

>and VHS can't really store data well.

There were 1080i VHS tapes. The real reason we switched to digital & blurays is because it's cheaper.

>>819618

I did used to have the entirety of "Dual: Parallel Trouble adventures" but it has since been lost. used to watch the shit out of anime unleashed back when TechTV was in its prime

>defending dub shit promos

Is cuckchan still leaking?

>>820513

Holy shit just shut your hole already.

Yes, the audio and vido quality of these videos isn't great, and using DVD or digital distribution does have all the advantages you want.

But some of these videos simply don't exist digitally yet. This fag is literally providing content that would otherwise be lost to time. Nobody is forcing you to be in this thread. Nobody is forcing you to watch these webms. Nobody is taking your DVDs and .mkvs away from you. If you don't enjoy it just leave.

>>820789

Is this some sort of LOGH but with space pirates, a female Rheinhardu, shit CGI and cowboys?

>>820874

>Graduation

Oh, man, I looked forever for a copy.

>>820874

>>820877

How was it released? It never came out in America right?

>>820883

Logically speaking, the only copies out there with the Dub are on VHS.

>>820851

So Is that a no then? For something so famous for butchering Nausicaa I thought for sure it would be online right now. I kinda (really) wanna see it now.

>>820949

I think I've seen it listed on nyaa before.

>>820952

Isn't nyaa dead? eh, fuck it. If I see it for less than $20 on eBay I'll buy it. Might be kinda cool to have the worst version of nausicaa on vhs.

>>820953

That would be the original. It's been replaced by other sites after. Like Nyaa pantsu but most sub groups use nyaa si because horriblesubs made the decision to use it because they were suggested not to be involved in the misogny/ hate of the other site. I forget the details of their statement but it was still really stupid.

Anime tosho is pretty good because it copies the torrents from the other sites and even does a rip of the video with multiple file hostings, just in case nobody is seeding them anymore. Not sure if there is a replacement to the vast backlog that was Box torrents since they went private. I've started saving subs I've watched to file hosting sites and burning them so that I can rewatch them without having to search and redownload them all over again.

I have nothing against collectors but as I grew up with VHS and CRT TVs I know exactly how bad it was and I'm happy the technology has been replaced with something cheaper and better. The issue I have with a lot of people is that those advocating for crappy old TVs are usually those who never had one because they are too young and they have this idea of searching for something "authentic" which never really existed.

I got rid of most of my VHS tapes and replaced them with DVDs and the only ones I still have are those that didn't get a DVD release.

The quality of the content itself being better in the past is another story and has nothing to do with the storage medium.

How was anime pirated on VHS?

>>819422

>This is even worse than CRT tv faggots VHS are all around awful

VHS collecting is a retro hobby, whats wrong with it? I have a collection of rare 80s movies/hentai on VHS that have never been transferred to DVD/Bluray with the exception of cream lemon.

>>820961

>You wouldn't have an anime forum like this if people like me didn't buy those tapes back then

Do you have any proof of that or are you just kvetching?

Question for Kenny, if you're still lurking this thread: why did you take down your Berserk and Lain VHS videos on YouTube?

>>823743

The only reason anybody should be "collecting" VHS tapes is for the express purpose of transferring them to a non-volatile, digital format ASAP before the god damn hunks of cheap chinese plastic finally disintegrate.

>>824536

What is your youtube?

>>824536

>>824718

Please don't upload them to youtube it fucking wrecks the audio.

>>824552

>Digital format

>Non-volatile

AHAHAHAHAHA!

The only "non-volatile" data is optical, and even that will go bad after a century or so (not to mention its inherent problems like how every time you access it, you further ruin it). Even digitally released features are stored/archived on film because film is just that much more trustworthy compared to digital storage of data.

>>824536

>If I keep uploading vhs trailers that are 30 seconds long every day people are going to get pissed off, unsubscribe, or both.

Do people get mad about that? I don't care about those videos, but I just don't watch them.

>>824718

I've compiled 30 minutes worth of traiers/promos into a single video for you.

>>824720

Where do you want me to put them then?

>>824732

>not storing your anime on punch-cards

>>824732

absolutely. Which is weird, but I guess some people only want the reviews/analysis videos.

>dub shit

>worth archiving

Please stop. Old VHS fansubs are one thing, but many of these are trash best left forgotten, like >>820851

And this is not the place to shill your youtube channel. Try reddit if you want that.

>>819279

>Someone's gotta backup these promos I guess, doesn't seem like anyone care or has the equipment. I'm in a unique position.

Keep doing it anon.

>>824755

>Where do you want me to put them then?

Literally any file sharing website that doesn't compress the shit out of what you upload.

>>824775

No, not M-DISC. Literally glass discs that are supposed to be far superior. They're called GlassMasterDisc by Syylex.

https://documents.lne.fr/publications/guides-documents-techniques/syylex-glass-dvd-accelerated-aging-report.pdf

That guy also mentioned that since the M-DISC developer went bankrupt in 2016, their quality has shot downhill.

>[...}the company defaulted on the debt payment and the debt holders took possession of all of the company's assets. The debt holders subsequently started a new company, Yours.co, to sell M-DISCS and related services.

There's 26 laserdisc rips, 2 betamax rips and 309 VHS rips on Nyaa. Felt like pointing it out for some reason.

>>824780

Back in the 80s/90s, sometimes the subs were so fucking god-awful (or even the original VAs themselves) that the dubs were comparably not much worse. There's not many examples of this, and they quickly and exponentially decay after about the 90s, but there are examples of this rare phenomenon. The original Berserk golden arc being one of the few examples.

>>824884

>That pdf

Neat. I think the main takeaway is that if you want to store stuff long-term, it needs to be stored on an inorganic substance as to keep it from breaking down.

>>824896

Only 30/309 of those VHS rips have any seeders. Even worse, only 12 of those laserdisc rips are seeded. Felt like pointing it out for some reason.

>>824916

Goldenboy's dub is god tier.

>>826848

Here's another 30 minutes of promos & trailers. I'm guessing there's still at least a few hours of promos out there from manga entertainment, pioneer, adv, etc that I could easily edit together. It's all just a matter of getting decent condition tapes. The outlaw star promo at the end barely transferred due to the tape degradation.

>>826859

>>824780

You could argue that the things people don't bother archiving are the most worth archiving. Since less people care for it, you might be the only person who thought to save it.

Fun fact: VHS is capable of storing more than 10TB data in digital format.

>>826887

That sounds made up. Do you have any reason to believe that?

>>828019

he's probably talking about this.You can store data on vhs tapes with the right setup. Not sure where this 10tb thing is coming from though. Anyway I hooktubed it for you.

>>828206

>anon was off by a factor of 5000

Amazing.

>>828019

The longer the strand of tape, the more data. Just get a million feet of tape and you have a lot of data.

>>828019

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/08/ibm-and-sony-cram-up-to-330tb-into-tiny-tape-cartridge/

https://www.amazon.com/Quantum-MR-L6MQN-01-Ultrium-6-Cartridge-6-25TB/dp/B00E2TYBC8/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1526889090&sr=1-3&keywords=tape+data+cartridge

>>828286

>You can store 10 TB of data in VHS

>modern tape specifically designed for storage, which is completely unrelated to VHS, stores large amounts of data

You're a fucking idiot, do you know that?

>>823789

Nothing matches CRTs for dynamic range except OLEDs and those wear our relatively fast, the picture quality starts decaying after a couple of years. The real reason LCDs were pushed on the market had nothing to do with picture quality, HD widescreen CRTs were manufactured, the problem with CRTs is they are huge and weigh a ton, also they retain a lethal electrical charge for years even when unplugged making repairing/disposing of them a hassle. LCDs were cheaper to store and ship, and could be mounted on walls etc, so they were more convenient. But their picture quality, especially of those old TN panels, was vastly inferior to that of a CRT. Even the VA panels with their improved dynamic range don't capture the same light-dark contrast of a CRT, and they have problems with ghosting. Man what I wouldn't give to be able to buy a new CRT monitor, you would think there would be a niche market for it but alas people who want commercial CRTs have to buy used.

>>830460

There might be an energy efficiency mandate involved.

>>819237

Some OVA’s and movies only got released in English with VHS like:

Twilight of the Cockroaches

Robot Carnival

Mermaid Forest

(OVA not series)

Mermaid’s Scar

>>830369

Good ol’ Anime Junkies. Have any other fan sub group garnered that much infamy since “mass naked child events?”

>>820749

Some anon on /k/ has gunsmith cats on laserdisk

They will never show this kind of ads or this kind of anime on public television ever again.

>>830503

Those are all available on Laserdisc. Robot carnival even has a bluray.

Did another VHS anime review in case anyone wants to see it.

>>830928

>Robot carnival even has a bluray

Thank you for bringing this to my attention anonymous, I never thought the day would come, downloading

>>833516

Nothing really. Still doing the videos, just trying to figure out how to get more exposure. I'm probably blacklisted or something. I never get any regular traffic from searches. Making videos is fun though, so whatever.

>>833826

AnimeBytes has a VHS rip of it, all 12 episodes. Do you have an account there? If I had an invite, I'd give you one for your hard work.

Just Saved a Street Fighter 2 Commercial from Being Lost Media

It's amazing what you find on VHS tapes in eBay lots. Will update you guys on any other game/anime commercials I come across.

>>834157

Nice find, anon.

>you will never put in your new anime VHS tape and fastforward past the handpainted cel-and-film traditional animated commercial for yet another Super Famicom edition of Street Fighter II

Feels sad, man. Tapes like these are treasures of a vanished world.

>>834118

>because no one would buy them at even a nickle a piece

I guess it's true what they say. Nothing has value until it's worthless. Styx had a good video on the subject & said there are people who are going to treat youtube like we treat 90's VHS recordings one day. Just sifting through it for lost media.

>>823734

Well, you see a mommy VCR and a daddy VCR who love each other connect their RCA jacks together. Sometimes a Macrovision remover is involved...

Press play on one tape and record on the other. For mass piracy, use more VCRs. (Really.)

>>823789

CRTs certainly have their place. I had a later model Trinitron, and it was great to behold. It weighed a bloody ton, though. Except for gaming, though, an LCD works well enough with the blinds closed.