/a/ - Animu & Mango

>Persona anime adds details to protag, other minor details and even extra scenes but follows the story faithfully

>First episode of Caligula Effect completely rewrites Protag and Shogo's first meeting

MAD? WHO SAID I'M MAD?

IM NOT MAD

>>812529

But anon that first meeting is genuinely important to the rest of the plot. Heck, it even involves a thing that's used as a call-back later on to when they first met which helps them in a severe situation. I won't say it but that's it.

Shogo is basically theprotagonist of the story (if there was not an actual protagonist, namely the MC) and a lot of the plot, themes and development are seen in his character. You can change a ton after that moment, but that first meeting is crucial.

Not to mention that big ol' chunni gun you see there, that power he has, comes AFTER you meet him.

You're first introduced to the CE and use it before anyone else (like a persona title, same classic writer). It's a power which manifests from reflecting on and admitting your trauma, hence the term "Catharsis" Effect and by the introduction of this power by the fairy getting you, the player, to basically admit your own fears/trouble/trauma you then recognize that anyone else using this power also has some severe trauma or problem wrong with them/their past. So when you finally see Shogo get chains sprout on his wrist after transforming, he even comments on them you realize that he's got some very serious problems which he hasn't revealed to anyone. Getting this right, the introduction of these elements, is important to hint at character motivation and development which will be revealed later on.

I guess this will leave players guessing, though. Who knows what they'll do in the anime next? ...Dang it

I like they made the protag actually knowledgable on Jungian psychology, though, even if he's just a student. I can't believe none of the Persona anime have done this yet. And yeah the P5 anime's faithfulness does rather make it dull, but it has a dull story to begin with - or at least, an extremely dull and childish overarcing theme and cast.

>>812455

Considering that they are working on the remake, they probably want to change things a little bit After all, they want to advertise the PS4 game with this anime.

I'm not worried if they change some stuff as long as if for the best.

>Persona 5 story is extremely dull.

Don't tell me that it's Persona 4 levels of shitty writing anon, please, I recently bought P5 and I wasn't expecting this.

>>814206

>Don't tell me that it's Persona 4 levels of shitty writing anon, please, I recently bought P5 and I wasn't expecting this.

nuPersona games rely on style over substance. It's fun to play, craft personas, make virtual friends. You won't be satisfied if you want some legit thriller.

>>814206

>After all, they want to advertise the PS4 game with this anime.

The anime is going to spoil every character's major story and development, though. Caligula Effect's two redeeming qualities are the story and voice acting, and if the player goes in already knowing the mystery and character motivations then that leaves them with nothing to enjoy.

The game is only stupendous if you know next to nothing about it aside from a vague blurb premise. The more you know, the more generic it will feel until you hit those moments where you go, "Oh wait, this is what's wrong with him/her? They actually went there?"

>being actually autistic or legit sociopath

>phobia of people

>being a NEET at 30+yrs old

>child abuse

>suicide and grotesque emotional manipulation

>PTSD

>self-harm

Just to name only a few themes that get delved into in the game and are actually handled very tactfully. Seriously, if you already know about these, who they apply to and if/how they might overcome them then the game is just a typical shounen chuuni adventure. The anime kills the experience. It's moronic to use it as just a neat commercial.

Plus the PS4 remaster has a whole additional cast of characters, plot points and boss fights. There's literally no reason to absolutely ruin the introduction of the story, the characters and world in this way just to change things up. Aria isn't even given as much presence as she should be. She's the guide to what's going on and she's the one to first give you all the information on what's happening. For example, very early on in the game you realize that the Go-Home Club was utterly powerless for at least an entire loop or more as they tried to find a way out of the virtual world, having to sneak around and try not to get caught or else they would be horrifically brainwashed - becoming senseless drones doomed to a life of blind worship (not everyone is strong enough to retain their personality after the Musician's treatment). When Aria begins to explain things about the world to Shogo and the rest, you are there learning with them for the first time.

That kind of detail is totally lost now because we already see Shogo with the chuuni power. It's infuriating.

It's that obsession with trauma and the slow drip of hints at what's wrong with each character that would lead them to be sucked into this pseudo-paradise that works so well. The guy who wrote Persona 2 brought it to the table. Despite being very much a typical "power of friendship, kids beat the bad guy" JRPG, it's those touches of very stark reality that bring Caligula Effect and its cast to life (along with some of if not the choicest voice acting). The great mystery of the story isn't what you think it would be and they really bring it home in the game with a progression of one problem after another.

Basically the story and cast for Caligula Effect is exactly on the level of what P5 could have been if they took more risks and didn't pander to widest demographic of safe chuuni crap. Though the combat in P5 is vastly superior (as with the frame rate), everything after McRape Teacher (which made no sense and they even tried to obfuscate the fact that he beat-raped Takoyaki's friend) was the safest possible subject matter while trying to be "dark".

>inb4 but the yakuza tho

One last attempt before everything went retarded yeah, and even then the whole thing played out in such a way that the characters looked like idiots rather than likable people.

It's time for the Mobius version of a tea party I can't believe it's been 3 episodes and they still haven't had more of the cast awaken to their abilities.

>yumekawaii

I hate this show they came before Yui but they suck at yumekawa

I'm just curious what direction Ritsu's going. If he has a psychology boner does that mean he'll take advantage of it and be a manipulative asshole? Why is he taking so long to make any decision and what does that mean for his trauma?

I remembered I broke Kotone's trust in the game and she had the audacity to ask for 50 skill points to repair it. I didn't even reload, she can get fucked.

>>824506

>I've been roleplaying as an antisocial pos but I don't think it's roleplaying anymore.

That's when you know you're having the best roleplay also, good point.

>>824599

>This is the worst adaptation.

I haven't played the game. But I can tell that the pacing is way off. Everyone awakening all at once like they did is some lazy writing right there. Angry not-ミク was fun though, I liked her nuke-it-from-orbit cannon of doom. At least the music is really good. Has anyone uploaded the song she was singing at the start of this episode somewhere yet? I'd like the full version it's quite pretty.

>>828188

I was a bit confused.

I want to say the pacing is all over the place but it was actually pretty well done for the medium's limitations (once a week in 22 minute chunks). I'm actually enjoying this adaptation now.

Are we entering Overdose territory? Because I'm ok with the events that are unfolding. I'm on board with a heel protagonist.

>>812310

I'd rather a show about the actual Caligula.

That was so lovely. Did not expect that.

I want to protect that smile.

>>835346

Is she a quad amputee, what the fuck happened to her in the end?

>>837692

She's right there though.